Hisoutensoku Netplay

[Lurker No.]

Couldn't find any 12.3 netplay threads, so ok here we go
75.79.143.22:10600 west coast
half awake tier

[Lim No.]

i was wondering what happened to it, oh well.

209.161.228.167:10800
West Coast

average

[Giant Tree No.]

About fucking time. I almost made a thread myself but it seemed like a better idea to just complain about it.

But since I apparently got here too late, hostan:
75.121.255.234:10800
US Central; if you think you've seen enough Cirno today, YOU HAVEN'T.
No tier today, out of all the clever ones.

[Anonymous No.]

GG. Aren't you from mizuumi?

[Lurker No.]

>>3336037
ggs, bit too laggy for me though

[Anonymous No.]

86.11.166.187.10800
EU

[Anonymous No.]

72.188.222.28:10800

Can play either a real game or Cirno mirrors if that's what you wanna do, scrub tier.

[Anonymous No.]

156.34.243.129:10899
shit tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336138

Good games, thought my connection shit out on me but apparently not, sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.]

b u m p

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336109
GGs and rehosting.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3336069
>>3336071
Durr Lim, you know it's not very nice to host then leave to go play someone else.
Oh well, GGs anyway but I tossed my controller straight at the wall in the middle of that last match and it nearly hit me in the face when it bounced back so, uh, time to take a break.

Also,
>Kanako
Stop that.
She only works so many times before people give up playing and start doing nothing but baiting her. I swear, you have the most bullshit playstyle ever - spamming the most annoying move of every character - and the thing that makes it so bullshit is that it WORKS. Well, it works against me, at least, because I'm an impatient fuckwad and a controllertosser. Tourneyfags? Probably not.
Here's the part where I go into an hour-long rant about how Kanako is the most broken bullshit in the history of broken bullshit because of a screenwide hitbox, bullshit damage, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
I don't feel like typing it all out so just imagine what it says.
Goddamn I hate that move so much. Better stick to Cirno mirrors today.

[Lim No.]

>>3336071
gg, giant tree. its been awhile since the last fight.

[Lim No.]

>>3336249
well, the Sanae's j 2C is an effective zoning and cornering projectile, with this, i can land a safe Kanako's god slap. i seen it works from japanese replays in niconico. I guess, I'll stop using sanae against you then.

the Iku is still having troublesome style, although its fun if I actually win a game with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3336276
>I'll stop using sanae against you then.
Hurrdurr, no, I'm just an angry person. Nobody here evokes a "bitches about everything" personality as well as I do so I have to be the one to do it. Really though, you only did that half the time -- the other half was just random Kanakos from fullscreen so I could just sit in one spot and bait it for the entire match if I wanted, but since I'm too impatient to do that I complain on 4chan like a thirteen-year-old losing in Halo or something.

>the Iku is still having troublesome style
pic related
You've successfully earned one of the oldest macros on the Internet.

That move is annoying as fuck, still, but it really is just TOO punishable, ie. Massacre.
More complaining about Kanako, etc etc.

[hachnslay !yYT/u4PSNE No.]

happy cirno day!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336238
GGs.

[S No.]

69.119.210.184:10800

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336249
Which specific skill do you mean?

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3336346
The skill where I toss my controller at the wall and it bounces back into my face or the Kanako one?

The former I haven't given a name yet, it's still up in the air. I'd like something that includes "rage" and it'd probably be in all caps, but I may just end up going with something like "FFRHGSJRARBLFFF" for ease of typing. Too bad I whiffed with it this time though; with enough practice I'll get the timing down.

The Kanako skill, though, I was talking about default 623, the rush with the ginormous hitbox. The other two are pretty annoying, but that one takes the cake.
Single most infuriating move in any fightan ever. I dare somebody to try to name one more annoying.
inb4 MUGEN

[Maka Albarn No.]

98.243.122.235:10800

Keyboard has a tendancy to die, so if I stop responding, I'll sit twice to tell you it's working again >>;

Stupid USB Keyboard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336365
the computer blocking you with their back turned in SCIII

[Lurker No.]

I agree that Kanako is ridiculous for several reasons which I'm too lazy to list, but it could be worse. She could have no recharge.

[Lim No.]

sorry about that Omonynous, a visitor came by i had to attend it. gg though, your patchy got potential, vvav killed me many times with it.

[Maka Albarn No.]

>>3336383
...I cried a little...

[Omonomous No.]

>>3336394
Your Iku made me cry ;_;
GGs

[Anonymous No.]

64.149.106.71:10800

This'll be my first time netplaying; try not to rape me too hard.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

188.23.200.216:10800
beginner, Reisen, etc
Have about 40 min time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336249
>She only works so many times before people give up playing and start doing nothing but baiting her
That's still playing though. Fighting games are all about baiting your opponent into actions that you can punish. You blocked? Blockstring. You grazed? Melee. You meleed? Bullet. It's just infinitely easier and less interesting when your opponent is fond of a single attack. If you want him to stop, just beat it out of him repeatedly. That's how we all learn and once he stops abusing Kanako he'll pick up more interesting tactics for you to fight against, solving 2/3 of your complaint (his repetitive playstyle and how you repeatedly fall for it).

[Anonymous No.]

Am I doing something wrong? I can't connect to a single game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336455
Upgrade to 1.03

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336455

Version 1.03 etc.

[S No.]

Too laggy for me

[Lim No.]

>>3336425
>That's how we all learn and once he stops abusing Kanako he'll pick up more interesting tactics

exactly. if it works, then good. mizuumi punished me many times for it though. i had my rage moments aswell.

[Anonymous No.]

70.19.61.181:10800
EC, can't combo tier

[Lurker No.]

>>3336478
I wasn't noticing any lag, but uh okay, gg. (Also I chuckled at that picture for some reason.)

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for an host, as there's not much Mahjong going tonight. Beginner China.

[S No.]

I'll be back later

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3336381
I share your hate, anon, but does this completely go through all your attacks, do damage to you, AND happen constantly?
No. Try again.

>>3336425
Normally, yes. Point being in this case, I DID start baiting and/or punishing it, but it didn't stop. Working it into combos is one thing, but randomly is just plain annoying, and it's worth complaining about more because half the time it's hitting me when it shouldn't be due to its bullshit multiple-character-width hitbox.
Broken, easy to us-- oh come on I say this enough

>It's just infinitely easier and less interesting when your opponent is fond of a single attack.
Go play SDD and his Suika helicopter and say that again.
In fact, pick Cirno against a goofy enough Suika player, roll some ice boulders, and see what happens -- repeating the same thing the whole match is always fun as hell for both sides.

>>3336485
That's because IRC tourneyfags are patient.

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336465
Dumbass who had 1.02 here again, rehostan.

64.149.106.71:10800

[Lurker No.]

>>3336518
... You might want to consider posting your location along with your IP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336566
Southern California. Wonder why it lagged so bad.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>3336566
>>3336518
San Diego.

>>3336413
GGs.
Suika is soo tiny, I jump OVER her when I use 66C and that (spit)fire is a melee attack (as in non-grazeble)? That's kinda bullshit.
I wouldn't know what to do against a Suika who just fired that fast 6BC (?) bullet whenever I try shooting, since I can't really beat any Suika player in melee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336589
>beat Suika player in melee.

Youmu or China can, I think. being primarily melee fighters. it just hurts when it lands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336607
What about Remilia the chainsaw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336518
>>3336587
Still waiting for someone. Maybe it'd be better if an Amerifag fought me instead...

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336628
u cant update 1.03?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336635
No, my...YAY SOMEONE PICKED!

[Anonymous No.]

207.210.9.223:10800 hosting

[Lurker No.]

75.79.143.22:10600 west coast

[Anonymous No.]

If I were to download this on share what words would I use to search for?

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>3336700
東方非想天則

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336661
GOD MY OKUU SUCKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336674
Meh, I'm done. You need to spam less. GG

[Saje No.]

>>3336807
After just three games? Oh well. Sorry if you feel that way, my Cirno's far from the best. Didn't help that cards simply did not wish to come in the first two games. My Cirno's not much to look at, but is even worse if I can't get Alt 22+Alt 214 out. GGs.

East Coast host
69.126.116.15:10800
Low/Mid-Tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336856
/r/ tier list.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3336893
Broken tier:
Youmu
Suika

Broken and easy to use tier:
Yukari

Shit tier:
Everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336715
thanks

DOWNLOADAN AT THE SPEED OF THE NORTH STAR

you don't suppose it's too late to get into this do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336923
Damn, Can't join then. I play Suika.

[Lurker No.]

>>3336856
Hey wait when did the level 4 version of the geyser get so large? I don't remember that.

ggs, connection felt a bit shaky for me though.

[Lurker No.]

>>3336976
He means in terms of player skill, not character skill

[Saje No.]

>>3336856
Bah. That last one was truly annoying. Thumb jammed the space bar blowing my Flare. Oh well, GGs. So annoying to try and combat Yukari's graze/lasers with Patchy's melee/bullets. Melee's too slow to counter and bullets to too closely packed to destroy the lasers. Needs more practice...

[Anonymous No.]

Someone host

[Lurker No.]

>>3336986
Doesn't Patchouli's 236 eat up Yukari's lasers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336661
>>3336744
GG man, those matches were great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336993

>>3336518 hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336998

Yeah, and Okuu is overpowered.

[Saje No.]

>>3336977
Yeah, I hear ya. There where a few bullets that hit me that I swore I had started blocking/grazing, but que sera sera.

>>3336976
When people say "tier" when hosting, they're referring to their own skill level. Shit < Low < Mid < High < IRC. Just a little joke that developed into habit and eventually became understood.

>>3336995
Perhaps, but I'm too much of an idiot to remember to use it outside of combos since 6C is sufficient to eat through almost every other projectile in the game. Bad habit, I know. I can very well imagine it missing the bottom laser and getting counterhit in the foot though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337007
>bottom-tier character
>overpowered

[Maka Albarn No.]

God... I completely fail with Sanae... >>;

GGs Omonomous~

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337014
But isn't there a real tier-list yet?

[Omonomous No.]

>>3337027
And I fail with everything that's not Patchy, Suwako, or Remilia =o
GGs

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337014
>When people say "tier" when hosting, they're referring to their own skill level.
Only nobody really knows their own skill level so they make shit up on the spot. There's no such thing as player tiers in the west; a few try to guess at how good they are but most of us just use amusing phrases in its place because we know there's no way to organize "player tiers" over here.

Japan, on the other hand, has some complicated tier system based on stage bosses or something, or at least that's what I hear. I wish we could just start doing things like that but we're not organized enough nor do we even have serious tournaments; if we did, I'd go around calling myself stage 4 tier. Not a boss, just the stage.
You know the one in every game that's a lot longer than all the others and even on Normal has stupid bullshit bullet patterns that even puts Extra to shame? Yeah, that's me.
Or at least I like to dream. ;_;

[Lurker No.]

>>3337042
Wouldn't that be stage 5, not stage 4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337024
Utsuho is actually midtier in current rankings. But definitely not overpowered.

[Maka Albarn No.]

>>3337032

I'm pretty much fair with everyone except Alice Marisa Patchy Aya Youmu and Iku.

everyone except Sanae.. good lord.. >>; She irks me so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337057
Do you have a link to said rankings?

In high-level play she just seems WAY too slow to be of any real use. She also has a severe lack of blockstrings.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337056
Replay PCB and get back to me.

>>3337029
Nope, it's still too early.
We DO know that Youmu, Suika, and Yukari really are at the top though.
Cirno being low or mid is debatable, and Okuu really is just pure shit tier.
Patchouli and I think Alice are low, pretty much everyone else is still up in the air. Especially Suwako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337007
Maybe for you. I suck with her.

[Lurker No.]

Bored and hosting.

75.79.143.22:10600 west coast

[Guy No.]

Hostan

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Freezing it easy~

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337076
This. As much as I hate to admit it, Okuu is definitely at the very bottom.

And Youmu is pretty much broken.

[Saje No.]

>>3337042
>Only nobody really knows their own skill level so they make shit up on the spot
Eh, it's not quite that bad. Play with the same players enough times and you get a general feel for who you can/can't consistently beat. Everyone starts as a shit tier and works their way up from there. You'll know when you start getting too good to play with shit-tiers, making you low-tier. Eventually you start getting too good to play with the people who are too good to play shit-tiers, making you mid-tier. It's inaccurate as fuck and varies based on your character selection (since everyone has characters they're not as good with), but it's good enough for the purpose of finding reasonably interesting/even matches.

>>3337029
For 12.3? Not exactly. Here's the last SWR 1.06 list though. Some things have changed since then, obviously:
http://swr.mizuumi.net/index.php/FAQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337071

http://tenco.xrea.jp/

Look at the win rates on the right. It's not 100% high tier play but you get the picture.

>>3337076

Patchy actually got a nice boost in soku. HIGH TIER

[Lim No.]

gg, Sad Satsuki, sorry for the cut off(dinner), damn Tenshi hurts. that sanae vs marisa was awesome fight btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337071
High level play involves not getting caught in said blockstrings.

I doubt this will mean much to most people here, but current rankings:

S(56-60% win rate)
Suika, Youmu, Patchouli, Iku

A(52-55%)
Marisa, Yuyuko, Komachi, Tenshi

B(49-51%)
Reimu, Yukari, Reisen, Aya, Remilia, Utsuho

C(45-48%)
Sanae
D(40-44%)
Sakuya, Meiling, Cirno, Alice

joke tier(35%)
Suwako


Keep in mind that this is from mid-high level casual play. The rankings are skewed a bit by people messing around with new characters and such.

There haven't been enough tournaments for a higher quality list.

Also, don't take the categories seriously because I just bullshited those. But the win percentages are real.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

>>3337171
gg. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>S rank - Iku

what?! explain!

[Anonymous No.]

Someone host

[Anonymous No.]

192.168.0.150:10800

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336486

ggs, I clearly have no idea what I was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337192
I'm more curious as to why Patchy is S rank. She's mid-tier at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337192
I figure Iku gets much better once you figure out the advanced blockstrings with her c bullet.

>>3337195
No.

[Lurker No.]

>>3337107
ggs, got a bit laggy near the end though.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone host please.

[Guy No.]

>>3337115
Good games, bro. Happy 9-day!

[Guy No.]

>>3337176
Fuck yeah, Meiling! D for DRAGON tier!

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337115
HUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR.
HURR DURRDDURR HURR DHURUDDURUDDHURRRHUDDRURDD.
HURRDURRDURRHURR HURRR.

You'd think playing Cirno exactly like Meiling wouldn't work. NOPE.
I feel today a shame that cannot be explained in words.

Hurrdurr

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337267
Anyone else see 6 fingers on her right hand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337267
You mean Dumbass, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337208
is there a video demonstrating iku's blockstrings anywhere?

[H No.]

192.168.0.1:10800
Ohio
not very good

[Lurker No.]

>>3337107
Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

207.47.201.79:7500

hosting, EC

[Guy No.]

>>3337288
"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

>>3337268
>exactly like Meiling

Hey! There were SOME differences! I actually use Cirno's 66C and 66B. Anyways, just think of me as a more aggressive, melee-based Cirno and you'll probably have an easier time next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337307

Your doing it wrong or your not hosting.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337312
>more aggressive, melee-based Cirno
Such a thing does not exist. Therefore, you must not be real.

Ragequitting made me to forget my favorite part of my textwalls though, so here it goes:
During one of those, I fucked up my timing somehow and did a complete SC whiff, right? Well when that happened I yelled "FUCK" at the top of my lungs and threw my controller down; it just so happened that my cursor was on the taskbar at that time and the controller slammed into my left mouse button and minimized my window, so when I finally scrambled for the mouse and reopened it I saw "KNOCK DOWN" on the screen. Durr hurr hurrdurr durr.

Also controller-into-wall happened, this time it bounced twice as far as earlier in this thread. Still didn't hit me though.
Maybe I should stop playing this.

[H No.]

>>3337329
5.244.69.133.10800
fixed hopefully. First time hosting actually.

[Anonymous No.]

Hosting
72.188.222.28:10800

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337359

Says your not hosting, you updated to 1.03?

[Guy No.]

>>3337348
Oh you, Tree.

I was wondering about that SC whiff though, but I wasn't going to complain about having a win handed to me by luck. >:3

Anyways, Cirno's melee isn't as bad as people make it out to be; sure, she has short, stubby limbs, but she also has some solid airmoves that can be hitconfirmed into 1800-1900 damage combos for practically nothing.

[Guy No.]

>>3337115
Anyways, rehostan.

[Lim No.]

>>3337369
You should try playing Youmu, Guy!


She also got the same in your face feeling combat, with softest in the inside!

[H No.]

>>3337368
updated to 1.03 about an hour ago.
I'm using Hamatchi if that helps.

[Anonymous No.]

76.29.15.231:10800
US Midwest.

[Saje No.]

>>3337348
>Maybe I should stop playing this.
Maybe you should consider medication? I exaggerate and kid, but damn man, how does your controller survive all of that abuse?

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337369
My failures are solely because I fail to acknowledge j.5A j.8A 5C default 623B, but I'll never give in.
Default 623 is disgusting and doesn't look as cool as icesword. I'd rather be forced into ground-only melee with slow recovery after use than use a move that doesn't look cool.
Then again, they're all pretty cool.

Still, you play like you've been practicing these moves for months on end. I'm suspicious about this.

>>3337307
>>3337359
>192.168.0.1
>.10800
Either you're the most genius troll in a long time or just made really silly mistakes.
Either way, I like your style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337381
>using Hamatchi

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337366
Good games, gotta go take care of something then I'll rehost.

[H No.]

>>3337402
No idea actually, lol.

[Guy No.]

>>3337374
Oh, oops. I thought I froze, sorry. Rehostan.

[Anonymous No.]

Well that was weird. Did you hit escape on accident or something?

>>3337366
Still hosting

[H No.]

>>3337423
I think my connection timed out or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337423
Wasn't able to join

[H No.]

>>3337423
I think it is my connection.

[Giant Tree No.]

>>3337390
Well, to tell the truth I've only literally thrown my controller exactly eight times since this came out. Of those eight, three were at the wall.
I call myself a controllertosser but I'm an experienced controllertosser; I have some friends who I play fightan - Soul Calibur series in particular - with and IV I played on their 360. Knowing my bad habits could mean death for their poor wireless controllers, I made a habit of instead tossing the controller in the air and catching it in an angry way so as to not break the thing. Most of the time when I say I toss my controller that's all I'm really doing, but the yelling profanity at the top of my lungs is all real.
Having grown up with a football-watching parent who obsessively defends their favorite team in front of a TV screen does that to a person.

Miraculously, though, I've had this controller for over 5 years and it has yet to break in any way. All the buttons and shit work just fine. This thing may just be more unusual than my anger problems.
But see >>3336295 -- I'm only so angry all the time because it's fun to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337432
We only played for a few minutes but I could tell that you need to block more or block at all. I shouldn't have been able to hit you like I did.

Rehosting
76.29.15.231:10800
US Midwest.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone host

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336856
Rehosting

[Lurker No.]

>>3337427
ggs Guy. I had a few comments but I forgot them all as usual, bleh.

Also there's nothing more enjoyable than messing with your opponent until their orbs are low and then hitting them with a surprise train from across the screen.

[Guy No.]

>>3337375
I dunno, I'd feel bad if I were to actually pick up a character that can do a 2.7k damage combo with limit without any spellcards or orbs.

>>3337427
Good games. Sorry I fell for the same shit over and over again, I don't know what was going on. After all, if I'm going to get hit by a 66C, or block it and be unable to punish it, why would you stop using it?

>>3337115
Rehostan.

[Guy No.]

>>3337391
This is honestly my second day playing as Cirno. The very first time I played, yesterday, I played against ZomB's Suwako and then Sad Satsuki's plethora of characters. So yeah, I got in a lot of grindan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337492
>I dunno, I'd feel bad if I were to actually pick up a character that can do a 2.7k damage combo with limit without any spellcards or orbs.
What's wrong with Remilia?

[H No.]

>>3337463
I realized that I shouldn't use a 360 controller for fighting games. The analog for moving doesn't agree well with me.
That bit in the first match when i was just sitting there was me trying go to keyboard and realizing that my controls were only set for controller.

[Guy No.]

>>3337492
Good games, Omonomous. I don't really have much to say, other than to work on your pressure game, tweak your combos a little, and be more careful on block. Sorry I can't be much help, but I hope you had fun!

[Guy No.]

>>3337535
Remi can do that in 12.3? I thought that IaMP was her heyday.

I started playing when 12.3 came out, so I have no idea.

>>3337553
I'm rather partial to my Dualshock 2, myself.

>>3337115
Rehostan.

[Lim No.]

Dual Shock 2 all the way, why would i throw something so awesome.

gg, Harlowne, you're not bad with Marisa. take advantage of her 66a+mixup. its a good starter.

[Saje No.]

>>3337484
Ugh, GGs Anon. This does not seem to be my night, heh. Not that another night would've changed the win/loss ratio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337004
GGs.
There was a lot of lag, but was very fun.
I've been slower than usual though

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337463
Good games Duckator, that Cirno Deck certainly has some suprises

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337463
Good games.
I wish I could tell Cirno's spellcards apart. They all look the same to me.

Rehosting
76.29.15.231:10800
US Midwest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337621
Yup, real laggy, but it wasn't bad enough to make the match not fun.
Dat Yukari... it hurt my pride so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337636
Also, GGs; you sunk my battleship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337614

It's okay. You're pretty good player in my book.

My plays were a bit rusty due to playing Umineko/Eroge these a couple of days. Also, sorry for the lag in the middle rounds.

[Guy No.]

>>3337578
Good games again. Sorry for cutting it off so shortly after you rejoined, but I suddenly got very hungry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337642
Way too laggy, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337659
yea i know.

>>3336069
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337663
OH WAIT, I had my torrent up. DERP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336486
>>3337197
Hey, same here, but that was fun! A bit late though, I don't know if you'll read me.

[Guy No.]

Hostan

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Continuing my Cirno-day tribute

[NameGoesHere No.]

64.149.106.71:10800

US southwest

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3337192
Iku's always been top. Reach and hitboxes and all that, you know.

I still think Okuu can't be anything but bottom later on. Everything about her is so shaky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337807
fuck you

[NameGoesHere No.]

>>3337802
My controls are messed up, I'm gonna quit now.

[NameGoesHere No.]

>>3337853
Rehostan, sorry if it looked like a ragequit.

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3337802
GGs, but the lag is pretty intense at some points.

>>3337847
Sure thing, but I'm not just saying that. Show me Okuu can keep up with everyone else and I'll retract.

[Omonomous No.]

>>3336069
GGs
It started to get laggy, so I left

[NameGoesHere No.]

OH JESUS MY ASS

[Lim No.]

GG, Onomonous, damn, that patchy and suwako is something else, i had to be apply alot pressure just to keep up. damn.

[Lurker No.]

>>3337802
ggs, connection was rather shaky for me though

[Anonymous No.]

207.47.201.79:7500

hosting, EC

[Lurker No.]

75.79.143.22:10600 west coast

[NameGoesHere No.]

>>3337802
Rehosting.

[Guy No.]

>>3337771
Gosh, those were probably the most intense Cirno mirrors I've ever had. Well, I guess I've only been playing her for a couple of days, so that isn't saying much, but still, those matches were really close and really nerve-wracking.

Thanks for the games, Duck. I love how our both of our Cirnos are incredibly aggressive.

[NameGoesHere No.]

>>3337935
What am I doing wrong? Besides using low tier chars, I mean. Everything I did got me raped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3337771
Great games Guy.
Those matches were always really close.

[NameGoesHere No.]

>>3338005
Nevermind, I gotta pack up. GGs to everyone who put up with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338015
Well, I didn't watch the match, so I can't really say too much; but since you're facing Lurker, here's probably the rundown of what happened:

You let yourself get hit by 66C. He then either sent out Chen, Ran, or he did a parasol spin. After that, he bunched you up in a corner and did a 5AAA -> shurikens -> laser beams -> parasol hoping to catch you as you grazed.

After you escape, he stays back for a little while firing shurikens and lasers, and once he gets down to 1 or 2 orbs, he dashes in and 66Cs. If it's a counter hit, and he has 5 cards, you'll be kissing a train on wake-up.

So, pretty much, you have to find a way to bait and punish his parasol spins, since punishing 66C is quite hard to do. Other than that, keep an eye open so you don't graze lasers right into a 66C or parasol spin and you should be alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338060
it aint easy to face Lurker, for some reason his 66C is dead on accurate, and the timing is something even I couldnt do in a middle of a blockstring and mixup..

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338091
I didn't say it was easy, I was just saying what he typically does and what to watch out for.

For some reason, his 66C always catches me right as I'm about to jump. It irritates me to no end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338015

I got raped too.

[Lurker No.]

>>3337960
ggs. might rehost later.

[Lurker No.]

>>3338060
Who are you and why are you writing posts about how predictable I am?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338174
I'm just someone who's played you before, trying to help out someone who apparently was quite frustrated with their performance. Please note that my post is by no means trying to insinuate that you are not a good player; in fact, quite the opposite, I find you to be quite skilled. I was merely pointing out your more often repeated strategies that he might learn and put up more of a fight next time.

However, just because one is aware of what you do, doesn't guarantee a victory. I mean, I can sometimes predict a bunch of the stuff you're going to do and still lose the match.

[Anonymous No.]

Host

[Lurker No.]

>>3337960
Rehosting.

[Lurker No.]

>>3338226
Bit confused about what just happened

[Anonymous No.]

anyone still hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting then

[Lurker No.]

>>3338287
ggs, I'm done for now though

[Anonymous No.]

98.163.120.250:10800
EC
Sometimes my A key gets stuck and I dash right over your head tier.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

Bump for hosts. ;_;

[Lurker No.]

>>3338473
I'm bored, so I'll host some more I guess

75.79.143.22:10600 west coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338483
I can't believe I just watched you two whiff 3As at eachother for 10 seconds straight.

Which takes less skill, Cape-chan or Stopsign Bitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338383
I have some business to take care of. I shall return in no less than 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338383
I have some business to take care of. I shall return in no less than 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338383

You trained me ):
GGs

[Omonomous No.]

And again GG's to Lim
I'm going to fix a deck for Marisa...

[Lim No.]

gg, again omonomous. i actually find it difficult to catch suwako at all. damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338383
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338562

cant connect for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

Testing my hosting capabilities....

66.195.118.160:10800 EC

Hopefully you get in...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338574
It got taken within 30 seconds anyway. The hosts have all been going ridiculously fast today, probably because all the fags from the other boards that were here to netplay it on the first few days came back for 9/9/9.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

>>3338483
Fix those spikes. ;_;

gg.

[Lurker No.]

>>3338520
I'd assume Yukari considering that Utsuho is extremely slow and not very good.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

>>3338520
Okuu is 3a is very large and chains to 2c for 1800 damage.

Yukari, on the other hand, can at least move around after 3a faster than Okuu. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

anyone hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338579
doesnt work.

[Anonymous No.]

97.112.179.250:10800
US Mountain West
Let's go, Cirno-a-Cirno.

[vvav No.]

>>3338596
Hey. You. Rehost.
And don't play Yukari

[Guy No.]

Rehostan

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Plays Cirno "exactly like Meiling"

[Lurker No.]

>>3338609
Uggh I'm not really in the mood for soku at the moment, but okay.

[Anonymous No.]

how strange for Okuu to be low tier when Iku is high. they are both slow but their melee and projectiles are good. so why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338608
Sorry, had to fix something.
Should be working now.

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3338627
Okuu has terrible movement. She cannot escape from what she needs to, and she cannot get proper positioning to be on the offensive easily, either. Iku denies you space all the time, while Okuu is just OMNOMNOM EAT BULLETS and nothing else.

[Lim No.]

>>3338643
hm. ic. i get it...sort of.

>>3338643
Do u have any vids or replay for Iku's blockstrings, Magister?

[Fox Hunter !!+2zsRI6S46m No.]

204.112.177.46:10800

Hostan

Can Central, Still haven't fixed my Otsuho problem yet. (That means don't pick her)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338608
GGs Satsuki.
The lag between screens was a little strange.
I was picking from who I almost never use, except for Suika.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

>>3338697
gg.
I didn't feel much noticeable lags.
I pick everybody. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338702
I always play on random :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338562
ggs to the individual i have just played. I feel bad for forgetting people's names right after we have a few rounds.
I have learned that I shouldn't tech every time i find myself in the air.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3336069
rehosting.

kanako tier

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3338663
I haven't touched Iku in Soku, and nobody really plays her here. Beats in IRC plays her, and he's got a pretty good grasp of the character, but not movement in general, so it doesn't have quite the same effect that makes Iku so hard to beat. I don't have any Iku replays, but I can go looking for some.

[Rekenber No.]

I'm glad i taught a lesson, that was my first /jp/ match :x

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338715
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

Who all's hosting?

[Lurker No.]

>>3338623
ggs Chibi. I didn't realise I never set my Iku deck...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338483

GGs; I always felt I was so close with Tenshi and then...I don't know what.

Your Yukari is awesome. I've never been successfully trained so many times it was great ),:

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here hosting and isn't really good? Just asking because I suck and I wanna play someone my level

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338762
I'm in the exact same position.

[Anonymous No.]

136.227.151.24

random tier, probably can't connect tier.

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338873
Those are from casual play and will even out eventually.

One of the reasons Suika is so high up there is because shes really easy to play and shits on people who are still figuring out their characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338843
Port is....

>>3338885

Meirin is pretty badass for those that know how to user her in comboing; I don't see her as shit tier at all after a bit of practice.

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3338885
Suika is also really damn good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338891
10800

Also: surprise surprise, the characters that are hard to use are lower-tier

fuck me sideways and call me Betsy

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338873
I thought Suwako would be at least mid-tier.
But my mains Suika, Tenshi and Marisa made the higher tiers.

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3338891
Meiling is low tier because none of her projectiles are good for block strings. She relies entirely on wrong blocked melee to break guards. (Also a shortage of grazing attacks)

[Lurker No.]

>>3338873
Reisen, Reimu, Aya, Komachi, Marisa, Yuyuko, Tenshi, Patchouli, Iku, Youmu and Suika are broken and easy to use.

[Lurker No.]

Reisen, Reimu, Aya, Komachi, Marisa, Yuyuko, Tenshi, Patchouli, Iku, Youmu and Suika are broken and easy to use.

I doubt the tier list is really accurate in terms of the new character's placements, the game hasn't even been out for a month yet

[Guy No.]

>>3338619
That's enough for me. Apparently people who jump around and throw out bullets (i.e. zone) bring out my worst habits.

Good games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338935
>Reimu, Komachi
>easy to use

I don't think so, Tim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338619
GGs. You play Cirno more like Youmu than Meiling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338959
I'm tempted to add Reisen and Iku too.

[Guy No.]

>>3338873
Apparently my two best characters are bottom tier and low tier.

Should I be happy or sad?

[Anonymous No.]

Well, looks like I can't host.

Shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338971
I spec'd those matches, your Cirno is top tier, IMO. Had me on my seat for a few matches.

[Lurker No.]

Bored, meaning it's hosting time.
75.79.143.22:10600 west coast
50.0 tier

[Guy No.]

>>3338966
I guess that means that I play Meiling like Youmu too, hahaha.

>>3338901
>Betsy

BUT. Isn't Betsy a GIRL'S name?

[Guy No.]

>>3338980
Oh my, thank you. It's always weird thinking that as I play somebody might be watching me. I try not to think about it, or I start really making mistakes. One of my problems with Cirno, though, is that I hate doing 6C when I want to do 5C. It completely throws everything off; also, accidentally doing 236B instead of 623B is rather infuriating, or doing 5AAAA -> sword spellcard when I'm midscreen instead of 5AAA -> 5C -> sword spellcard.

[Fox Hunter !!+2zsRI6S46m No.]

>>3338694
Damn, those were good.

ggs omonomous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338873
>Youmu not the highest
>Meiling low tier
>Reisen mid tier
>Sanae low tier
>Marisa, Aya, Reimu high tier
>Iku, Patchy top tier
Mmkay, this list is total shit.

IMO, Youmu, Suika, and Reisen are god tier, Alice, Sakuya, and Patchy are bottom tier, and everyone else is in the middle

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338982
Yes, and the tier list is shit

[‭‮‭‮‭‮‭‮‭‮‭‮‭‮‮‮okon‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬ No.]

Anyone know where I can find a translation patch for 12.3?

[Lurker No.]

>>3338981
...Well I wasn't expecting to fight you of all people. Bah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339021
There's only a weather translation patch out now, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339021
The future. You'd be better off just eating a Japanese person and reading it in moonspeak.

[Anonymous No.]

God tier
Yukari

Normal Tier
Everyone else

Shit tier
Suwako

based on looks

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3339009
Patchy bottom tier. Lol? Maybe not top, but she's far from bottom. And Youmu/Suika are pretty close for the best. Suika just as "better" matchups overall. (For instance, Suika does a lot better against Suwako than Youmu does on the chart.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339030
>Yukari

Your way of spelling "Meiling" is weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338873
>Meiling vs Utsuho
>Win percentage for Meiling: 29.1%

Hahaha, oh wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338873

Sakuya is incredibly low compared to her ranking in SWR.

Also

lol tiers

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339112
I don't really mind tiers. I'm always curious to see everyone's interpretation of just who the best all-around character is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339040
>Patchy bottom tier. Lol? Maybe not top, but she's far from bottom.
I've yet to see a Patchy player with pressure that stands up to instant graze dash attacks. She has almost no melee in her strings, so it's absurdly frustrating fighting against Yukari, Reimu, etc. I just don't see how she can actually force a hit against a careful player. She gets tons of free hits in netplay with delay against casual players, but I just can't see her doing well in a competitive setting at all. She was crap in SWR and she got only a very small buff in Soku.
/opinion of a failed tourneyfag who admittedly would get raped by more IRCfags than not.

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3339112
After 214 Sakuya has a large period where she can't recover spirit. So after limiting someone with a combo which may take 2 or 3 orbs, and setting up a 214 for oki, she's left with 2-3 orbs to pressure. Plus many of her air tight strings are no long air tight. On top of this, she has rather low damage conversion.

She was high before because of her pressure and oki.

[Isn't it Sad, Satsuki !oL/3v7SXvw No.]

>>3336069
Good games as always.

I got to stop getting into the habits of 66 a/b/c things. ;_;

[Lim No.]

wow, very good game Sad Satsuki. damn, nonstop why so serious battles. my thumb starting to hurt. i never thought i'll do a serious match up with Meiling, i usually pick her just to fool around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339139
I like to think that I play a halfway decent Meiling, but I still have trouble facing a Patchoulli that knows how to zone, and take advantage of each hit they land. Of course, Meiling doesn't have any instant graze attacks (236B/C has some pretty beastly start-up time), and her 66A/B/C are pretty shit if you want a graze attack.

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3339139
Play against Shy or Dimglow's patchy.

The former baits movements and plays incredibly safely, while the latter uses crystals for tricks. While patchy may not always be able to force a hit, she can certainly play safely against graze attacks, all the while building cards for flare (which is guaranteed damage on an opponent with 2 orbs -> something patchy can do easily.)

Also I've heard rumor of combos which involve up to 3-4 of Patchy's 6C's. (These would do a ton of damage, because 6C is more than 1k, so maybe 3.5k after proration)

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3339139
You'd be pretty much right on why Patchy has problems. I can tell you though, that if Patchy fights someone who knows what she can do, she looks better, because that person won't graze the first chance they get every time. Her damage stops coming from random 5Cs and starts coming from actual guardcrushes and escape punishes. She can be fairly scary sometimes.

>>3338895
I -still- say she loses hard to anyone who can BE offensively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339166
>Dimglow's Patchy

Is goddamn annoying. I spend all this time getting him down to low health, and the bastard has the nerve to be untouchable for the rest of the bloody match. Does he have any idea how hard it is to even approach him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3338981
GGs. I wanted to see how much you'd grown.

[Lurker No.]

>>3339025
ggs, I just kinda gave up on that last match.

Also I was hoping you'd use Patchouli a bit more, I don't fight good Patchouli players very much but oh well

[Lurker No.]

>>3339192
Yeahhh not very much. Though at least I was less out of practice this time.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here hosting and wants to beat the crap out of a shitty player (me)?

[Anonymous No.]

71.82.69.10:7500

Trying my best Sakuya

What the hell am I doing? Cirno

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339205
Well you were a lot more tactical with some of your move use, but your pressure is on the light side. Yukari pressure can never be tight, so you have to focus on deception.
Also I think you may have been a little too cautious, more than a handful of times you stayed in the corner walking back when you had a way out. I wasn't sure if you were afraid or just trying to get a 66C off of my inevitable attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339224

Also US East

[Lurker No.]

>>3339230
Half of the times I was afraid, the other half I was just waiting to see what you would do

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339191
I have to play like that with Patchy. Letting someone in on Patchy is nearly equal to taking damage.
-Dim

[Guy No.]

(Re)Hostan

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Do you have enough ice?

[Anonymous No.]

76.29.15.231:10800
US Midwest.

[Guy No.]

>>3339247
Don't mind me. I was just frustrated at the time.

>>3339253
Good games, Terminal. You've fully justified my intense dislike of Sakuya. But I swear to God, if I fucking do 6C or 2C when I want 5C one more fucking time I'm going to eat my goddamn controller.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339253

Really GGs Guy

I had more fun blocking eachother's attacks than I did actually fighting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339471

I was having the same problem, I kept doing 5C when I wanted 6C or 236C. My controller is getting pretty old, it's time to get a new one.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know how to use Cirno's alt 22b/c (Frozen Freezing Method)? I can only seem to hit it at lucky times

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>3339536
They have to be afraid of your Cirno enough to want to block long enough. Then you use it and they get jittery and will want to jump out of everything.

[ZomB !!VrHwhymINKA No.]

>>3338873
I'm surprised no one is raging about Yukari being midtier.

[Saje No.]

>>3339536
Dunno how much of this will work with better players since I'm not that great, but on /jp/:
1. Learn to predict when your opponent will attempt to escape from the corner and how to punish it. The fear will keep him blocking.
2. Learn to predict how your opponent will tech, exactly where he/she will end up, and get there first.
3. Once they start to fear your unblockable, I like to mix in delayed Alt 214B/C (Ice Charge). You opponent is going to attempt to either graze, jump, or BE in order to escape it and Ice Charge beats two (BE's invincible, right?) of those three and can be used in the exact same places that Frozen Freezing Method can. Unfortunately, this method is highly reliant on good cards, which is why my deck contains 4 grabs, 4 charges, and 4 Suika gourds. It's not for everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339361
GGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339361
Good games.
I still don't know how to deal with your 5C Patchy or anyone else you played.

[Guy No.]

I went ahead and made a new thread.

>>3339763

[Anonymous No.]

>>3339757
>5C Patchy
Ya, sorry about that. 5C is the crutch of bad Patchy players. I just tend to throw it out when I'm not sure what to do so I have something on the field.