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I find UFO's plot really interesting. Probably the best story ZUN have ever written compared with all the other games. Still, even if the the story is not important for a STG that hardly last 1 hour (incluiding extra stage) it is great.

>> No.3313376

I actually agree.
I like Murasa's backstory a lot.

>> No.3313377

why?

>> No.3313387

>>3313367
What's the story? I hear the main boss is youkai jesus. If that's true reimu is a goddamn bitch.

>> No.3313386
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3313386

Bunch of old hag youkai try to get their friend unsealed. Was there ever an explanation for why they weren't doing this during the 1000 previous years?

>> No.3313394

>>3313386
They and their ship were sealed away underground. When Orin made the geysers and crap in SA, it shook the ship loose.

>> No.3313406

>>3313394
I wonder what it felt like to be trapped in the ground for 1000 years.

>> No.3313413

>>3313386
They were stuck in the ground you moron.

>> No.3313416

>>3313406
Nue would have rather died then be sent back there. I imagine it wasn't fun.

>> No.3313429

>>3313394

Yeah, and the ones ultimately behind the events in SA were Kanako and Suwako. Sometimes I think that ZUN is going somewhere with the overall plot, but then I remember that the big huge manga epic invasion of the moon was over a bottle of sake or some shit.

>> No.3313433

>>3313406
bags of sand

>> No.3313434

>>3313387
>I hear the main boss is youkai jesus
More like youkai Martin Luther King in my opinion.

>reimu is a goddamn bitch
Speaking of which, anyone have that copypasta? Needs to be updated for Touhou 12...

>> No.3313438

>>3313394
It can't be that hard for a bunch of youkai to break a few rocks.

>> No.3313444

All the bosses except Kogasa are also related in some way. No random passer-bys.

>> No.3313439

>>3313387
After SA, the geyser that appear near the Hakurei Shrine made the ship in which Byakuren was sealed to start floating again. All the followers of Byakuren started to search for the fragments of the Soaring Vault which would release Byakuren from her seal.

The rumors of the ship spread all ovr Gensokyo which took the attention of Reimu, Marisa and Sanae. They thought that the ship had a treasure inside so they went after it. You learn from Murasa that the ship is going to the 'paradise' in which all youkai can live happily ever after, but the heroine is a bitch and thinks that this is just another youkai's orgy of hell.

Nazrin tell you that the ship is actually going to Makai, or something that resembles it. After you beat Shou she tell you to follow her to break the seal from Byakuren. You free Byakuren and she tells you that she was a monk that lives a long time ago and helped youkais. She knows about magic, but got sealed away. The main characters is a Touhou main character once more and beats Byakuren because yes.

On the Extra Stage, the main character are told that the 'UFO' are just something that Nue wanted to look like. In other words, every person in Gensokyo could see the fragments as what their mind wanted. For the UFO crew they were only chinks of wood, but for Reimu and the rest were floating UFOs.

>> No.3313446

>>3313434
Byakuren does use danmaku, that's nonviolence of a sort. She's awfully twitchy with it though.

>> No.3313450

>>3313394
For what I understand Orin didn't make the geysers, that was Utsuho. Orin just released a bunch of spirits to the surface.

>> No.3313467

>>3313444
I liked that too. It's a bit better then in most games where the first half of the game is largely disconnected from everything else.

It was REALLY bad in MoF. All the characters until Stage 5 had nothing really to do with the plot.

>> No.3313496

>>3313467
Kappa and tengu live on youkai mountain, as well as being Kanako and Suwako's main worshippers in Gensokyo. Their representatives are pretty important.

>> No.3313504

>>3313467

The 'story' of Mountain of Faith was for Marisa or Reimu to work their way up to the top of the mountain to find who is responsible. So naturally while progressing up the mountain they'll run into these unrelated characters. UFO on the otherhand is all in one specific area so it's only natural that the characters are in someway related to each other.

>> No.3313506

>>3313496
Don't forget that Aya was just playing with you on her fight.

Her real plan was to let you go by so the problem of the god was solved by you.

>> No.3313516

>>3313506
Aya does that almost every time she fights. Kinda predictable for a reporter.

>> No.3313520

>>3313506
Not you again. We all have our favorite characters but you seem to take it that extra step into brown nosing.

Anyway.

UFO was more plot driven for the NPC cast than the heroines, the humans didn't really have a strong reason to go out and do something this time. A lot happened to the Youkai but for Reimu, Marisa and Sanae they pretty much ended up back where they started only with another set of meddlesome youkai running around now.

>> No.3313521

>>3313496

The kappa and tengu don't worship Moriya Shrine's gods, but the former are becoming allied with them, while the latter party remains neutral. Moriya is trying to get the humans to pray to them, while Reimu sits around getting drunk with Suika all day, except for when Yukari manipulates her into doing something.

Too bad nothing will come of it, since there's a good SRPG somewhere in there.

>> No.3313529

>>3313520

Just as Kanako planned.

>> No.3313525

I want to see a game where Reimu and Marisa get bored after a long, peaceful period of no incidents and decide to try their hand at this troublemaking business. The game would be the same, but instead of flying around beating everyone, the character you choose would fight off other would-be incident solvers out there.

>> No.3313526

PCB was the worst. No one was related to anything until you got to youmu.

>> No.3313530

>>3313525
You mean a 3rd "Phantasmagoria of [etc.]"?

>> No.3313532

At least, I presume that Kanako's plotting away behind everything. I really want to see Sanae A's ending translated.

>> No.3313535

>>3313525
Have them become friends with a boss?

>> No.3313536

>>3313526
Alice knew where the source of the problem was and probably got out to investigate, Prismrivers were employed by Yuyuko, even Chen ends up being related to the one causing the mess and Letty has a valid motive to fight you. I don't see how PCB is the worst.

>> No.3313537

>>3313535
BEFORE beating them and having the tea party, I mean.

>> No.3313540

>>3313525
Marisa is always making trouble anyway. She is a professional burglar you know. It'd be more likely to have a game where you play as her and have to raid other people's houses for sweet booty.

>> No.3313543

>>3313536
it doesn't matter what they end up being, the characters were just floating around fighting anyone in their way.

>> No.3313554

>>3313543
If you want to bitch about that, bitch about the phantasmagoria and fighting games.

>> No.3313558
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>>3313525
Or, even better, a setting where some other Touhou (who can be the extra boss) possesses one of them to break Gensokyo. The other Touhous find the heroines' sudden change of mind preposterous, and you fight random bosses from previous games and one or two new Touhous in final stages who are apparently the leaders of the resistance against you.

>> No.3313563

>>3313558
How the hell could you possess Reimu, and why would you want to destroy the only place you can live?

>> No.3313565

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Scarlet_Weather_Rhapsody:_Timeline

>> No.3313571

>>3313563
It could be an outsider Touhou, or one like Okuu.
And her power could be to possess people.
And don't even say:"That's a stupid ability" because Kogasa.

>> No.3313574

There should be an evil touhou. Not just Utsuho mad with power, but plotting, black hearted evil. Of course, this is touhou, so she'd probably go to Reimu's tea party afterwards.

>> No.3313575

>>3313574
What about a evil dinosaur youkai?

>> No.3313581

>>3313574
That's not very touhou-like, though. Go make fanfiction if you want that.

>> No.3313584

sage

>> No.3313585

>>3313574

Reimu's the evil one.

>> No.3313590

>>3313585
It'd take the other touhous a while to figure out Reimu or Marisa were possessed, they NORMALLY beat up random passerby and are jerks.

>> No.3313592

>>3313571
Maybe it could me mima cause mima is a ghost.

>> No.3313594

>>3313565
Seriously ... I don't think ZUN thought of all that timeline before making the game ...

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3313609

Pfft, I prefer the way each plot is actually rarely ever that serious. It's part of the charm of the series along with the art.

Taking Touhou seriously is where the problem is at. ZUN clearly doesn't take Touhou that seriously and it shows in his character designs, dialogue and stories.

Still, I was surprised at the way he linked Murasa with Byakuren, it was pretty well thought out and serious even for ZUN. A saviour and her disciples. Truly Youkai Jesus.

>> No.3313621

I like how Byakuren is still a Buddhist even after turning to black magic.

What's that? Reincarnation? NOT ON MY WATCH

>> No.3313698

>>3313621
You're not supposed to be reincarnating anyway.

>> No.3313712

>>3313698
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to achieve this by never dying.

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