/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Elona General No.]

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to Windows 7.

Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.

What version to play? Read the pastebin.

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/FDv2ATAa

>Mods:
https://pastebin.com/5ja03yuf

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29
>Latest Elona+
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000029807

>Elona+ 1.90 and 1.89 Archive (and mods):
https://mega.nz/#F!2eBTxQLD!IO9hCXUHZYJgmNCpm3mfBA

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread:
>Go here for Custom download too
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3340109923483964385

>Current Version:
Elona+ 2.02 (2020-12-30)
>Latest Custom:
E+C 1.90.4 (2019-06-02)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.90.4.2 (2019-10-20)

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3308392244314428365

>Current Version:
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (2019-06-17)
Omake Overhaul EN Hack final release (2018-12-14)

>OOMSEST Updates
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObWACccjqvaJLcXBfsH2tHEGaYfaD0S_


>Elin's Inn
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1moY3mcjFNPCytLFTdhgB0Xhnq2Bbt_yE/view

>OO English CUSTOM
FINAL RELEASE
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3665075680313659434
https://mega.nz/file/YA8HxRxT#MKLbn9fJxYyxAEY9XFAKTxj-plD-TUYsHHyyk0KCogk

>Elona Vanilla CUSTOM
FINAL RELEASE
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3384697816088892399
https://mega.nz/file/QM1TmBjY#ZS21Ob7wDT84yg6_zLhjUasOMXpaOhEo3elq2P4fyLQ

[Anonymous No.]

Ah shit that's the name field. OP fucked it.

Last Thread
>>32615108

[Anonymous No.]

Fact: snails are the most powerful race

[not lomias No.]

Only eleans are people.
All of you may as well be barely sentient cattle.

MAKE THE FOREST GREAT AGAIN

[Anonymous No.]

I like fairies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32941012
stretchy

[Anonymous No.]

>>32940635
thanks ano

[Anonymous No.]

OP fucked it and it wouldn't let me delete it. So we are stuck in this broken world I created.

By the way, if someone makes an all-in-one OOMSESTepNC download that already works out of the box, this thread doesn't have any reason to stay diplomatic with the JP side of the fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never done the little sister quest because I don't like killing big daddies and I especially don't like killing little sisters, but now I'm in a crisis because I need mana and it's the only way to increase it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32943672

[Anonymous No.]

I started on custom and wanted to try CG. Is it safe to transfer saves from former to latter? Last time I tried elona years ago, my character doesn't fucking wet herself all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32945055
Should be.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to lower weapon weight in the Omake variants?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32940094
I don't know we're killing gods this early

[Anonymous No.]

>>32946699
Scrolls of flying still exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>32943383
epNC is currently pretty busted. It has several crashes and you need to delete its 2 new gods from the game files for it to even start in English. I'm fine with it going in the pastebin, but a disclaimer might be good. oomSEST is the preferable version for the foreseeable future, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32948164
It's mostly just imps, medusa, asura and yiths if you went far enough. Idk though if they are considered as "gods" (for godslaying weapons) on vanilla/plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32943672
If you already did the quest that gives you the mana increasing fruit, you can get another one as the reward for turning in the little sisters alive in a ball.

[Anonymous No.]

Just played E+ again.
Apparently i cant steal a stradivarius now. Should i just kill the bard by throwing a fuckton of doomed booze at him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32949485
You could never steal it, the only solution was death. You could also try luring over a high level rock throwing npc to do it for you, if you prefer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32949519
huh thats odd.
I remember stealing it from years ago. I guess my memory vague.
I think ill just booze him to death then.

[Anonymous No.]

When do silver eyed witches start to appear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32949899
Mountain pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>32945055
Plus/Custom/Custom-G are fully interchangeable.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best body slot of defense?
What are the worst body slots for offense/defense?
DV has a cap at 510 right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32952847
DV doesn't cap.

For stats, check the stat sheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h-X_rSprP9EaXepI17YiY5NZM68qwEqeTCOWH5ua2Qo/edit#gid=1547178730

[Anonymous No.]

Why the hell is there a dragon in the first floor of the puppy cave?
I can't believe this happened in a lucky day as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32953921
maybe it got lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>32952201
i'm not the anon you replied to but

Custom/-G pet AI Is stored in its own files right? so I could swap to plus to get Bloated +SP regen for long cooking sessions and swap back without losing my pet AI setups?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32955950
The super sp regen isn't in 1.90, it was added a little bit later, IIRC. There is a minor effect back then, but I think g gives it to you for free.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello I just want your opinion on this.
Pic related is the original little girl zoomed 4 times.

Elona uses 48x48 pixels per character
I wanted to see if if its possible to shrink it down to 32x32
so I made the same little girl into 32x32 (see the reply of mine)
Is it good for you? pls rate thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>32957907
pic related is the one I shrunk and hand redraw some parts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32957907
>>32957922
I made my own version of that sprite because I liked it but felt the breasts were too big

[Anonymous No.]

>>32957971
At first I did the same thing because it "felt" right
but then I reverted it because I didn't want people to tell me
>its shit because you made the boobs smaller
even tho its more realistic and better for me too.

[Anonymous No.]

Will leaving god pets at Nazuna's let me get around the 2 god pet limit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958256
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958284
thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958170
>Little girl needs big boobs
Didn't know there were a lot of oppai loli fans here

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know why my head slot is suddenly gone? I just tried to equip a helmet and realized that slot is gone. I'm new to the game and know that there is some sort of limb system but I haven't really messed with it. Could my head be gone now or something for some reason? Nothing weird has happened recently, as far as I've noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958833
ether disease?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958833
Check your feats for an ether disease mutation that prevents wearing anything in the head slot. That'd be my first guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958857
>>32958858
Yep, that's it. Thought I got to a shelter quick enough, and didn't notice any notification. Thanks for the help

[Anonymous No.]

>>32958906
it's one of the better ether diseases, and it's CUTE

[Anonymous No.]

What's an easy way to increase attribute potential in Elona+? I have everything on bad and that's not the best way to play the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>32960314
Potential potions, you should always bless them.
If you can't find any(low invest in wizard shops) or too expensive, you can make picnic baskets. The hardest part about it is getting the basket since you need 30 tailors, the rest is easy and it also help the potential of your pets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32960314
oicnic baskets are the most consistent and easiest to access
potential potions are the fastest, but it's not until lategame you can mass craft them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32953921
Something had doomed equipment that attracts monsters, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the drawback on Tentacles? I've had it for a while now and it's never actually attacked any NPCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32957907
>>32957922
>>32957971
isnt that supposed to be arcueid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32961178
it certainly looks like it

[Anonymous No.]

My palace for a single whistle. Sick of merchants always being asleep. Did they remove whistles or have I just been unlucky trying to find one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32962351
Just 'B'ash them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32962351
preaching is like a whistle, but you ensure they appreciate Opatos' laughter like they should

[Anonymous No.]

>>32961068
In theory it's a very low chance. Whether you consider that a drawback is debatable. It might be more of a pain in early game, but later it probably won't matter much.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Elona freeze when I start to scroll through the character customization options? I remember playing this flawlessly on a shitty netbook a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32964841
>a decade ago
Windows maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32964904
It's just weird. The rest of the game runs fine but I won't be changing character sprites anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32961178
I was just about to mention, she looks like Arcuied mixed with a bit Yuugi

[Anonymous No.]

>>32964841
Make sure that your pcc graphics file names are properly numbered in order

[Anonymous No.]

/i need a pet that can constantly apply wet. Which monsters have water spells, other than fin crocodile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32964841
Its kinda slow for me too, though I'm on Plus with a billion added player graphics from Beautify. I suspect that loading and freeing a shitload of .bmp files over and over is not so performant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32969117
Plus? Get one of those coral things that can turn tiles into water tiles. They show up in water nefia in south tyris a lot for me. But are you a bad enough dude to use it as your pet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32962359
And complete Noel's quest so that bashing people doesn't cost you karma. Or pickpocketing. Can also spend more time killing Big Daddies before having to go do jobs to keep the guards at bay.

[Anonymous No.]

Just seen a "Brack Orc", how the fuck Ano does it? Is it undiluted pure talent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32971450
Or embrace the negative karma.
Guards make for great target practice.
Don't forget your incognito though, to use vendors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32972069
You got a plobrem, gaijin firth ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32972069
Can't beat the porc

[Anonymous No.]

Don't mind me I'm just blessing and cursing you at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I find harder harvest time quests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32976768
pretty sure it's fame based, like all quest difficulties. grind more

[Anonymous No.]

First time playing OO, any tips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32977271
be yourself

[Anonymous No.]

As someone who never played Elona, should I go with Elona+ or Custom?

From what I've seem so far, Elona+ is the newest version, but Custom apparently has more quality of life shit and a decent translation, but also stoped being developed...
Can someone spend some time to help a bro get his shit together and choose once and for all which variant to play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32978946
custom is superior , but the latest + version changed a bunch of stuf in the game
if this is your first time i would reccomend custom , after you can try + , or vanilla or oomst if you're a true maso.

[Anonymous No.]

Some of these enemy exclusive special actions are too hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>32978946
You should play Custom-G because it translates the adventurer academy. If you're just on Custom it'll only be half-translated. It includes a lot of useful tips and tricks for a newbie.

[Anonymous No.]

So, just checked on my food shop (running Custom G latest) and dug about in a stack of food. Much to my surprise, it's all ("a dish of sample" .. x) now. What gives? Is this to let you know the food has rotted, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32980813
Eat it. I dare you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32980964
No, no, throw it at something and see if it gets poisoned.

[Anonymous No.]

Share the story of your funniest death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32980964
>>32981252
A few steps out the door and the food rotted. Throwing it at someone netted a -2 karma loss, that's all. Eating it was fine. Picking it up removed the label, as did attempting to pick it up with a full inventory. Eating it from the floor kept the tag but there was no noticeable difference. Picking up the items and waiting in the shop caused them to rot. I'm guessing it's a tag that's added on the update tick that causes rotting, and is only there to serve as a warning that taking it with you won't work.

[Anonymous No.]

You may not like it but this is how you get stronger in elona

[Anonymous No.]

>>32983358
>Just finished that ice demon quest in Act3
>teleport back to noyel with a silver of health
>have pet karata also at a silver of health
>it triggers its AI and uses voracity fang on me to heal herself,die
yeah not my best moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>32940094
lol this guy exposed your board https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83E

[Anonymous No.]

>>32988128
stupid cute newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>32988381
ur general will be closed in 24 hours, prepare your ass!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32988128
>sperging out over a video from four years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>32989079
just found out about this vid and came here to tell you all are pedophiles!

[Anonymous No.]

So this is from where Ehekatl death beam attack comes from,right?

https://youtu.be/T4FUFKpi1j8

[Anonymous No.]

It's finally the 12th month! Time to make way toward Noyel ,the holiest of city, and convert the reset altar in the church in the name of our glorious God, (((Yacatect))).
And then just in front of this most holy church, at its entrance you proceed to witness Obor fucking a prostitute(male) to death by burning his insides with his giant fire dick, raping his ass and reaping his intestines apart.
This is considered """holy""" for Jure's fanatics.

[Anonymous No.]

Wiki says OO lets you make custom races
is there a guide or or it's so easy that can be explained in 10 words ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32991470
I think nobody ever made a english guide for it,so good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>32991558
wasn't that hard. maybe i didn't do it the "proper" way but since it works , it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32979047
>>32980436
I just downloaded Custom-G and will try it out later, thanks for the help

[Anonymous No.]

What every holonigger thots crave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32989119
SSeth is into lolis actually

[Anonymous No.]

Does you alien child inherit your skills/feats? Legit think of taming one since all that versions that matter let you modify their AI now.

[Anonymous No.]

How did I change my little girl so that she is {Adelloz the little girl} with the { } quality marker? Been ages and I can't figure out what I did through the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32999041
Thevieux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32999262
Not sure what that means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32999041
You spent AP to rank her up. Now she counts as unique, which grants many bonuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32999605
Leold.

[Anonymous No.]

*EYE OF THE TIGER*

[Anonymous No.]

Kill all performers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33002713
LP is the best part of my edgy teenage years

[Anonymous No.]

Should I play Elona Mobile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33003358
Yes, until level 16.
Then wait until official release, as after beta all data gets reset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33003358
If you can handle the game's speed and the usual mobage shit, sure

[Anonymous No.]

Will playing Elona cure my diabetes?

[Anonymous No.]

Guys.. I'm scared

[Anonymous No.]

>>33003029
WyAEBux88hw

[Anonymous No.]

>>33003358
If you've never played Elona before, mobile is definitely a good place to start because it teaches you a ton of stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have access to an English changelog for oomSE and oomSEST_NC? I have no idea what either of those added / changed.

[Anonymous No.]

What does smithing a bone and a weapon do in omake overhaul? Other than adding the name of the creature to the weapon's name?

[Anonymous No.]

Cirno found a new job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33012580
Cirno is an Ice Fairy
Cirno is a Nice Fairy

[Anonymous No.]

It looks like Elona foobar went the rewrite-it-in-Rust route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33012627
I saw her once in the streets of Derphy... only cost me 9 gp for the night.... only downside was frostbites on my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>33012745
...the heck, when'd he switch from c? Oh well, this explains the delay at least.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I stop my pets from running into a chokepoint one at a time and getting killed? Like a hallway that's only wide enough for one person, meaning it's a 1v3 at the end of said hallway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33016076
Tell em to not attack

[Anonymous No.]

>>33016076
Arrange them into tag teams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33016076
Edit your pets' custom AI and make them prioritize staying near you over chasing down enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you remove buildings in OO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33020536
"g"

[Anonymous No.]

>>33021094
thank

[Anonymous No.]

How good is "The enemy dies"? I know it can do some ice nuke(only once then it lose the trait), but is the 1% of "death word" upon a hit worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

For that passive-aggressive proposal. Equip with godbane prenup <Modern Gambler>.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you get a general store shopkeeper in your house in 2.00fix or I am just very unlucky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33025776
I want to say unlucky, but Ano has really been dropping the ball lately.

[Anonymous No.]

War on Terror just took a weird turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33029274
For you.

On another note, is necromancy viable yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33029906
Necromancy has always been viable.

[Anonymous No.]

The wiki page for <Blue Spirit> isn't very clear, does it only boost the gauge release for "touch" actions or it also boost it for a normal melee attack? Don't understand why a weapon enchantment level would boost a touch release.
Also does it stack with "Resolution Hand" or does "Resolution Hand" do anything to touch releases?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32980964
>>32981252
>>32984176
Okay, so I finally got it figured out. 'Sample' happens when you dump your stuff on the brown tiles with red ropes and, like the name suggests, are samples. They don't get sold. So, you can use your shop as storage, too - the biggest advantage to this (for me) is in stockpiling masses of cheap food or potions for the day I get the Aesthetic Sense feat on a shopkeeper. Those thousands of rice balls and assorted cheap non-perishables will rake it in, and without having to cart it across the overmap. Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33032210
I think I did that once and the moment I went outside with the food it all rot in an instant, not sure if it was sample or just normal unsold food.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember the 6 gorilions dead putit

[Anonymous No.]

The white knight and his stained white briefs.

[Anonymous No.]

WHY CAN'T I OFFER SEEDS TO KUMIROMI AAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

So I have this axe, will my character become a better tactician if I eat it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033591
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033601
Is this a good idea doe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033613
If you aren't going to use the axe, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033624
It's safe to assume that the rapid learning growth came out of diarrhea my character got after eating it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33032363
>>33032363
There's some code that keeps food fresh in shops, but it has nothing to do with 'sample'. At least, it isn't in the version I'm playing. Not that it matters with food shops as they'll sell off rotten food anyway. However, food that is kept in a shop won't rot when it ticks over (which is every few hours or so, I believe) except in some circumstances I've not researched. I suspect rot only occurs when you're in the shop when the update happens.
Presumably, the process which rots food only occurs when the map is loaded, and if it's a shop then it doesn't trigger. However, the rot timer still fires intermittently, and when it does the food in the shop rots.
It depends on how the timer triggers but I suppose it's possible that a sufficiently fast PC could move food that should be rotten from one end of the map to the other by using a string of shops, dropping the food prior to the update tick, leaving, then returning. It's possible that food has its' freshness set to 180 or something when the PC enters the shop, and that there is no 'rot loop' or such. I think this is the most likely case, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033504
Because he's not a fag.

[Anonymous No.]

i want to have a fairy harem and use them as onaholes

[Anonymous No.]

>open web browser
>search elona
>preferred search engine is duckduckgo
>image result previews show up as thumbnails
>tinymodel
>technically there are jb bikini pics on my hard drive now
>I get v& because of temporary internet files

[Anonymous No.]

>>33035439
Just googled it and it's all a bunch of old hags.
You liar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33034230
so you have a tiny dick, then

[Anonymous No.]

>>33038324
Fairies are naturally stretchy.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Sadly, no easter egg, just a regular burger. Ano missed a trick here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33033877
You can just shove food into 4d storage to unrot it though.

[Anonymous No.]

Driftwood and garbage are the secret ingredients in making an artificial dragon. Building your own wood/stone golem or clay doll is more complicated..... bravo Ano

[Anonymous No.]

>>33025776
Unlucky. I think in one of my play-throughs, it took a few months to get four magic vendors, where as in another, I got enough to hit the limit in a shorter time period.

[Anonymous No.]

>first time i hunt for a little sister
>go give one
>no reward
wtf
>"Killed 1 Saved 1"
WTF
In oomsest, do big daddies killed by NPW drop a little sister, and then she was killed, is what happened ?
Fuckity fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33051747
If you can hire a magic vendor, hire it, rename it, and you can rehire another one right away.
As long as you rename the new one, you can keep hiring until limit is reached.

[Anonymous No.]

What race do you think works best for a balanced caster? My current character has more mp than they really need, which means I could've went for a race with more hp instead.
Also are fairies worth the resistances?

[Anonymous No.]

So, letting Elona open for 10 minutes is enough to trigger this?
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Rare_loot_trigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>33052933
Sure, but it stays up if you save and exit normally, so you shouldn't need to worry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33052515
If you've got extra MP, you can always go for Barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>kemuridama
Watta heck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33051988
You'll eventually need to kill one for your museum, no big loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33060110
You could just use a printer instead . . .

[Anonymous No.]

>>33056293
Good question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33066152
Dropped from a beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33056293
煙玉
煙 Kemuri Smoke
玉 Tama Ball
SmokeBall ie SmokeBomb

Fucking EOP gaijins getting filtered by Ano even when he translate

[Anonymous No.]

>>33066436
What a smoke grenade can possibly do in Elona?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33068079
Big smoke, it block the line of sigh and also ball/bolt spells/attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

What pets make for a good mid game shopkeeper? I'm level 20 and just now bought a shop deed. I've heard thieves guild members would be a good choice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33068279
On second thought, I guess level 20 is probably still pretty early game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33068279
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Shop_%28Deed_Building%29#Assigning_a_salesperson

[Anonymous No.]

>>33068279
If you're playing Elona+, you can get the staff from the underground casino.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally a pair of shoe I can fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

An adventurer tried to kill Ebon while he's still chained, somehow the big nig can flee from the battle despite being chained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33070570
I know, what worthless bitch she was, good riddance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33070570
>lake
isnt almost the entire place sorrounded by the ocean

[Anonymous No.]

>>33052515
fairies are never worth it.
Lich and Elea are the best races, pick Elea if you carea bout their perks, or lich if you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33068279
Yoir current shopkeeper.
If you're avtually looking for a new one, anything of the imp or juere races, really. Camouflaged imp is the meme pption, because you can get one in a low level monster ball via pregnancy, but other creatures of those races work too.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way now to make recruitable npcs powerful, like the shitty mad scientist? It'd be nice to make a run using only recruitable npcs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33072446
Fuse Pickpocket into them so they get money from killing things and spend it on training.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33072531
Scientist is a useless wizard, though. How make him viable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33073639
Brute force it. Make him good at melee if you have to purely through number inflation.

[Anonymous No.]

>guy posts a quest to give him a raw noddle
>do it
>he gives me a raw noodle, a vegetable seed, a platinum coin and gold
He was using me to get rid of some evidence, wasn't he?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33073639
gene engineer him into a cucumber warrior

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>33084689

[Anonymous No.]

Has Ano fucked the game again? General vendors aren't selling gifts at 110 investment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33085078
Gifts are super rare from general vendors. It's perfectly normal to never see any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33085178
A few versions ago, I used to see the shop inv almost always having 2-3 at 100+ investment. Fucking shadow nerf Ano strikes again.
If gifts are now rare, what is the best way to augment relationship with random NPC?
Love potion only goes up to 100 impress and bouquet need to be fellow to have any effects, which leave a chunk in the middle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33085584
token of friendship, engagement jewelry, valentine's chocolate, repeatedly resurrecting them, probably a lot more
come on anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33085698
Valentines are even more limited. Books of resurrection are rarer. Token of friendship are also hard to get and need high relationship with adventurer to begin with ...
Engagement jewelry only work on pets not random NPC/enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086040
must you blame everything on ano
I don't have trouble with these things

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086053
When the gift were more comon you didn't had to rely on 10 choco per years to be able to use the astral pen. Token of friendship are only given at the new year in your home, that's worse than choco and you need to get the visitors and them to give it to you.
The only semi-cancer way I can think of is resting the pyramid map and farm the single book of resurrection in the hidden room, but that's cheating.
With the 10 choco per year, that's barely enough for 2 astral pen uses per year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086150
you can craft token of friendship with pot for fusion
resurrection books can be obtained by mining in cemetary nefia, and you can get spell stock for it from dreams and scrolls of wonder
if you're mass reading wonder scrolls for meteor and wish, chances are you'll have more resurrect stock than you know what to do with
can't you just mass buy chocolate whenever it's february, and use it whenever,

[Anonymous No.]

Ano is unstoppable

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086230
The limit on choco is at the making of the choco not the buying of kits.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys. Ano didn't change the spawn rate of gifts. They really are just rare. You just have crap luck now, or had great luck in the past. Either that, or you are remembering souvenir vendors, which almost always gave gifts at marked up prices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086812
Dang, and I was about to thank him for having the unseen hand assasinate Bethel and later giving me a rod of wishing, all before reaching level 15.

Btw, how can I do undead restore without putting my HP straight into the negatives? It and undead strengthen seem pretty wasteful for their effects compared with just using spells.

[Anonymous No.]

My pets keep dying randomly to the unseen hand despite them having no cursed/doomed item.
Bet Ano is behind it.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a decent fairy PC sprite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33086150
>barely enough for 2 astral pen uses per year
dude how many unique pets are you planning on having

[Anonymous No.]

Do DV/PV matters at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33090326
Here

[Anonymous No.]

>>33093194
PV does, DV gets outscaled because eventually you'll get ganged by 20 enemies at once who hit every time and attack every round

[Anonymous No.]

>>33076391
>cook the raw noodle into a 20 star dish that poor fuck could never afford
>poison it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33094825
I guess that means my claymore evasion build is fucking useless after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>33091051
ALL OF THEM

[Anonymous No.]

>pet nurse keeps running off and dying to enemies
>leash her
>now she sticks to me but keeps dying anyway
>set behavior to defensive
>keeps dying and now since she can't kill anything her relationship keeps getting worse, all the way down to <Foe>
>eventually find nice equipment with resistances
>she finally manages to do well in combat and not die in one shot
>find fountain in dungeon
>have her drink hoping she¡ll get a wish
>falls in and dies because I forgot to give her a wing
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>33100510
It's really sad how pets can't turn on you upon reaching foe.
The relationship system only having upsides sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33100510
Nurse are one of the shittiest pets, even if you are playing on a mod/version that removed them healing your enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33102159
Healing Rain is pretty nice early game and it's not like I can cast it myself yet.

[Anonymous No.]

What's my best bet at capturing a rabbit into a monster ball when I'm level 23

[Anonymous No.]

>>33105207
Raise tactics, it'll give you the false swipe spact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33105493
I just threw a bone at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33105586
Please treat your penis better, Anon.
It is not a throwing weapon, it's a blunt weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33105598
It's fine you just put it back more or less into place and cast major healing, you can even try and hold it a bit in front to make it a few milimeters longer.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh yeah and I have a question, why does every skill with melee weapons rise? I don't even use them and when I do I have an axe not a longsword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33106802
travelling?

[Anonymous No.]

Magic dart.

[Anonymous No.]

Shining wave

[Anonymous No.]

Ok so I made my ranch with a rabbit, how fast do rabbits breed? Like how many days does it take for another rabbit to be created?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33113873
It's random.
iirc the ranch will roll a random number and if it's lower than the pet's breeding power it will produce one. Not sure you might want to check the wiki for the correct explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

So does summon monster actually do anything or are they always hostile to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33117712
Sure. It summons hostile monsters. Useful if you want to terrorize the peaceful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33117712
You use them to attack/provoque neutral npc.
They have their standard AI behaviour which I think mean 99% of the summonable one will be hostile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33117712
It can summon a silver cat for the quest.
It can help you get gene engineer material, like ents for carpentry and whatnot.
It gives you food to eat in oomsest.
It gives you a way to fill up sandbags in your home.

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>>33032168
blue spirit boosts the gauge release, it's around double damage
resolution hand adds additional damage and an effect to touch actions, and this additional effect also applies on gauge releases
you actually lose this additional effect when you gauge release with the blue spirit, so you may end up dealing less damge over all

[Anonymous No.]

>>33093194
PV is very important
DV is helpful but it's not something you can rely on
you might as well get both

[Anonymous No.]

>>33121720
How do I get more PV without going over light weight

[Anonymous No.]

>>33123000
Flying scroll, also E+ has war suit which weight 1.2s and 95pv.
Holy shield is also very important to get PV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33123042
I'm playing OO so wouldn't flying scrolls decrease PV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33123000
upgrade it at a blacksmith, and cast holy shield

[Anonymous No.]

>>33123062
It's better to lose 20pv if you're still gettign 40 more than the next light weight choice. You can't have everything in life, compromises have to be made.
Anyway if you want light weight, you're probably a 30 years old virgin, Holy Shield boost your pv by 20% and add some. The 20% won't scale, but the bonus and the duration does so make sure to keep it trained. Also don't get in melee with monsters that will fuck your ass, teleport them away and continue attacking from range.

[Anonymous No.]

When does healing rain start rolling in the magic shop? This is killing me.

[Anonymous No.]

Decent ranged weapon for pets? I have my android using the Griffon right now, I also have the GAU-17, Railgun, and Winchester Premium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33127500
Do not give your pet the railgun unless they have decent control magic or you want fun times.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, Derphy. Such a beautiful town.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33128639
thats kind of hot ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>33126782
That one's always a pain for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your opinion on the best random monster to have as a pet? I know Harpy gets Super Regen when it evolves and Fire Dragon Child gets Boost and Megid Flame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33137505
I assumed bells were the top of the food chain

[Anonymous No.]

>>33138505
They get screwed over by AP later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33137505
Silver witches are pretty nice melee wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33138715
just reset their stats on the oblivion palace

[Anonymous No.]

That moment when you realize the place you are at in the void means you can handle dungeons way above your level. I just hit up a south tyris level 95 dungeon and the haul of potential potions and speed uppers was way worth it. I need lockpicks now because of all the chests I found. This is great. The only thing I'm having issues with right now are pet resists, I really need to round out my group.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone ever tried using the god's weapons as a primary weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33141012
Nah,just use it on your shoot slot as a stat stick

[Anonymous No.]

>>33137505
Depends what you're looking for
Fire@dragonchild's evolution doesn't use megid flame very often, the main appeal of that pet is its massive health pool.
Most pets are about the same in terms of viability, the only time where pet choice matters is with casters or special action users.
Rushroom is pretty fun

>>33141012
Do not
Ragnarok is obnoxious enough normally, mostly because of the etherwind, but if it triggers in the void or an awakened nefia, the giants and dragons will all be scaled and can actually kill you.
Trying to fight them with your meme weapon will just cause even more ragnaroks

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, what? What's wrong with the purple one?

[Anonymous No.]

How well does Elona run on Wine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33141236
Is there no way to remove the ragnarok attribute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33141852
No

[Anonymous No.]

Best way to upgrade living weapons?

[Anonymous No.]

I will play a pacifist fairy and friendship everything to death with the emphaty feat and lots of speedy friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>33004592
It instantly Polarises your blood sugar levels so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>33141423
Fine. Texts might look a little weird and the BGM won't play until you installed a midi soundfont and change the music to MCI though.

[Anonymous No.]

Dual claw is a thing? What should I give/gene engineer to a pet if my goal is to make it a claw user?

[Anonymous No.]

I can actually eat this accidentally? Also, the drop rate for the latest elona+ seems very high. I also already got a bed from cupid not so long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33145133
'x', then '*' it to not being able to eat it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33144815
claws are just martial arts (even with a shield equipped), so that. lotta hand slots for more claws. if you're playing Plus, weight lifting so you can eventually make the claws 200.0s each for bonus damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>33144815
>>33149660
wanna clarify, claws/tonfa are technically shields. so think of them that way wrt two-hand/dual wield/MA.

they don't give the 20+% bonus to PV the shield skill grants though. but enhancing them boost hit/dmg which is nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>33142963
>I intend to use this as my main weapon
All magic damage
>I intend to use this as my main weapon, and I REALLY like continuous attacks
All absolute pierce. If you have maxed absolute pierce already, all in weapon enhance,after taking it to +15 with blacksmith and stardust
>I'm a caster
Spell enhance
>I have no intention of using this
is it even worth levelling it then? If yes, just go for resistances

Going past level 10 will give you bloodsucking, but it does make you a lot stronger. Bloodsucking is definitely manageable, but it's definitely annoying, so it's up to you

this is advice for plus

[Anonymous No.]

Firebolt.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to unlearn a skill for your PC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33162907
Memory editing.
I once removed basically everything except 1 weapon, regen, defense etc skills, to maximise efficiency of dreams, travelling, scrolls of growth etc. It was pretty great and cozy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33146662
Good point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33149660
>>33149917
>lotta hand slots for more claws
>if you're playing Plus, weight lifting so you can eventually make the claws 200.0s each for bonus damage
Very useful remind, anon. I'll do that. I'm really trying to figure out what's the best way to train a MA/claw pet, since mad scientist is useless, that's what he'll become for thematic purposes. I guess I'll be using claws in my 1st and 2nd hand slot and one in the ranged slot, then. My plan is to use recruitable npcs only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33162907
You can seal spells now I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33145133
Just change the material

[Anonymous No.]

>>33168297
I don't think it's a randomly artifact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33145133
Elona+ has an anti-savescumming system called the rare loot trigger, where likelihood of rare items and events is increased, but it only turns on 10 minutes after loading a save.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33170620
Oh yeah, didn't see that it's precious

[Anonymous No.]

>>33170660
It's more like "10 minutes after you load the game after closing it without saving".

[Anonymous No.]

Eleas are only good as cumrags

[Anonymous No.]

>>33171211
A lot of correct opinions in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33171211
I am puzzled about the origin of this drawing, my good chap.
Could you wigglity wiggle me towards a clue, an indice, un je ne sais quoi that will enable me to dispel the mystery, that is, this captivating image ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33175746
I shall give you a small glimpse of light.
It is still a fresh image in a popular magical town called "pixiv".
Shall you speak the word "elona" there, find the person whom townfolks there called the person "001".
Then, you will unravel the mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

ear cleaning huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>33179279
Is that a urethra?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33179591
Acoustic urethra

[Anonymous No.]

>>33179026
Just as I always pictured him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33181021
That.. is about right, yeah?

[Anonymous No.]

why did he do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33184165
He lost his memory on accession. I don't believe it was intended, though he probably still would have for godhood.

Plus, lulwy probably would have hated him anyway, even if he didn't ignore her. Since she was apparently tricked into helping him kill/replace the other god.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the deal with the gods? Why do they almost all seem evil? Is Ruth an actual god?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33188134
>Eyth not ruth

[Anonymous No.]

>>33188134
>>33188180
Eyth followers can bless water by dropping it on an unaligned altar, so most likely yes. I'd say Eyth is the god of not being religious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33179026
Need more piss

[Anonymous No.]

>>33192006
piss is old and busted
it's all about earwax now

[Anonymous No.]

>>33170620
Even material hammer don't work on <precious> artefacts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33193876
No, they're fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

Can pets use 2.03's B-Daman, or just the player?

[Anonymous No.]

So what happened to the java port? Any playable builds yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Little tail ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33192016
Why are there so many ways to hurt someone's ears? This is not daijoubu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33188134
>What's the deal with the gods?
Almost all of them died in the God Wars. Most humans died too. It wasn't pretty.
>Why do they almost all seem evil?
They're not malevolent, per se. Perhaps "traumatized" might be more accurate? They DO need (and intend) to keep their worshippers alive.
>Is Eyth an actual god?
Dunno. All I can say for sure is that Eyth Terre was an ancient, materialistic era that formed in the wake of the God Wars. (The current era being Sierra Terre.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33215503
Eyth is the omnissiah, WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[Anonymous No.]

>>33141412
The purple sheep is probably a Nightmare sheep.

[Anonymous No.]

>no Jure daki in Mobile
Meh

[Anonymous No.]

>>33218793
Dropped

[Anonymous No.]

How to kit pets out with resistances, this is annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33220428
>get 100/200 cooking for multiple dishes
>kill floating eye or scorpion or chaos cloud or whatever
>cook it (might as well herb it too)
>do the share food option with your pet
pets don't dream, so they will never lost resistances

[Anonymous No.]

>>33151995
Does absolute pierce really work with continuous blows? I'm seeing almost no difference when it's proccing with high damage, low pierce weapons even against relatively high level enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33221680
what's your damage dice spread? those numbers look all over the place. a wide spread could be making it hard to tell the difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>33221887
3d13+300 x23
3d11+300 x23
3d14+187 x23

It was probably the third one hitting low. Dice overall should have very little relevance with as much added damage as I have, I would think. Enemy must have had substantial prot for pierce to work on since I was doing only 300 and not like 1500 a hit.

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>>33222018
whoops. yea, you're right

I've never made it anywhere near lvl 300, so this is math is probably beyond me. worth noting they still get 1/3 of %reduction even against absolute pierce though, so astronomically high PV could theoretically result in similar damage numbers with/without

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222018
>>33222154
just remembered, vorpal apparently affects every hit in continuous attacks after the first proc(?). so to compare "normal damage" you'd need to have numbers from a use where it doesn't proc/procs very late in the series

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222193
That'd be an interesting behavior. Next dungeon boss I'll drop my vorpal sword against to test it then.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitty boss this time but I'm still seeing almost no difference on vorpal proc vs none. Above the red line is mournblade+stormbringer, below red line is mournblade+claymore, damage is almost identical across the board.

It's worth mentioning that I was getting like 75 per hit until the first ever vorpal, but the following damage boost persists through new attacks after weapon swaps, so I'm pretty sure that's the lasting PV debuff and not the complete pierce effect. I self-nerfed slightly for this test (+235 damage instead of +300) but it should still be astronomically high if the enemy's %DR is being reduced and prot dice are being ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222474

It's possible continuous attacks is doing something to pierce effects from vorpal, however it might just be that there's not much difference with it active. Vorpal reduces enemy pv by 100/150, or 2/3. However, you also some built-in pv reduction from your weapon that doesn't stack with vorpal. In newer versions of plus you also get even more pierce from weapon skill, presumably up to 50% since it's based on MA's scaling.

So, in practice you are only probably getting a bit of extra pierce. It's probably also being drowned out by the effects of the pv reduction you mentioned earlier. I know from my testing that at max weapon skill a light-sabre now gets the same 100/150 as vorpal**, but without the pv debuff.


** earlier plus added in pierce reduction based on armor skill, but now that pierce is boosted by weapon skill they seem to cancel out.

[Anonymous No.]

In any case, the debuff side of vorpal at least seems to work though. Guess I'll have to see with lightsabers whether it's truly worth it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222560
My understanding of it was it reduced their DR to 1/3 outright while eliminating defense dice, which should be an absolutely monstrous damage boost because PV easily goes to >90%. Setting aside dice entirely, reducing DR from 90% to 30% would multiply damage by 7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222653
Oh, it sets the pv to 1/3, not the DR. The DR % number there is mostly an artifact of vanilla and doesn't really tell you much.

If you go here: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Protection_value

and scroll down to the plus section you get the current formula (ignoring pierce reduction and boost from skills).

Damage is multiplied by 100 / (100 + PV * (150 - pierce) / 150) where pierce is the attacker's pierce in percentage points.

So, reducing pv to 1/3 would give x3 damage boost in the best case scenario. If you are going from 50/150 to 100/150 reduction, It'll only be 2x in the best case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222806
Based on what I've seen so far, against high PV enemies in particular like big daddies or bosses, the lightsabers will do way more damage than stormbringer/mournblade (15% pierce but much bigger dice), but once vorpal procs the gap will pretty much disappear for multiple turns. Never seen any particularly big numbres from vorpal hits themselves with any weapon combination though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33223285
And by way more I mean like 50%~70% damage, not even a 2x or more over 0 pierce like <Claymore>

[Anonymous No.]

>>33222193
>>33221680
Pretty much, vopal is both 100% pierce on that hit, and a PV penalty for a short duration.
100% pierce isn't "ignore all PV", it's closer to "ignore two-thirds". Later on, a third of an enemy's PV will still be a significant amount.
The reason it combines so well with continuous attacks is that all subsequent attacks will benefit from the PV penalty, but they'll also be able to roll vopal themselves for even more pierce.

PV is actually the wrong word to use here, all the defences on high level enemies are typically coming from their skills and stats, and they'll have little to no actual DV or PV, something which is readily apparent if you use crush damage spacts on them. PV is the accepted *if innacturate) term though, so I'll keep using it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33221680
>>33223400
did a damage test on inner ehekatl to demonstrate

[Anonymous No.]

Does the extra chance of melee attack stack with each other or does it only use the highest chance value? I forgot where I have read that certain stuff don't stack up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33224034
Maybe the enemies at my level just aren't high enough yet for the pierce on vorpal attacks to matter after the debuff I guess. The math still seems odd there though. An inner god should have PV well over 1k even with a PV debuff. With that amount, reducing it to 1/3rd should more than double your damage according to the wiki formula. The boost is substantial but evidently not at the level of even doubling.

[Anonymous No.]

Interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>33230205
She did her best to make you something nice.
Say thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

New Thread soon, Stalker.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>33230425
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