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Is there anything you like about modern Japan that doesn't involve anime or fetishes?

I love Japanese architecture, it's pure awesome. When other countries try to pull off the futuristic look they try too hard and end up with more generic "modern" art in the form of a building. The Japanese on the other hand don't care if the sheer power and grandeur of a structure offends some butthurt champagne sipping elitist douchebags, they just don't give a fuck, they will go right ahead and build a fuckload of colossal angular designs, phallic columns, industrial exposed components and intimidating facades before fucking your mother for good measure while you cry and whine about it like a little bitch.

Their buildings succeed in generating a positive upbeat attitude, just not the fruity "everything is soft and smells of popuri" kind but rather the unphased triumphant confidence and sense of achievement that resonates with a building that serves to define the city and is a place of work and landmark.

>> No.3255143

The convenience of things I guess? Cell phones, train system, etc.

>> No.3255142

get out

>> No.3255144

>>3255133
Gentei

>> No.3255146

Nope, sorry.

>> No.3255149

The language, I guess.

>> No.3255155

>Is there anything you like about modern Japan that doesn't involve anime or fetishes?
No.

>> No.3255168

>Is there anything you like about modern Japan that doesn't involve anime or fetishes?

Yes. Vidya.

>> No.3255171

>>3255142
>>3255146
>>3255149
>>3255155
>hurrdurr i hate japan except for animu so i'm totally not wapanese

>> No.3255173
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3255173

>modern Japan
>modern

I prefer the more traditional society of Japan where men act like men and women act like women.

>> No.3255174

the cars

>> No.3255177

>>3255171
>i love japan so much ^___^ look how much of a real fan i am

>> No.3255179

99.9% of their buildings are a mess of unplanned urban sprawl sorry to shatter your image op

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3255183

What happened to ISM anyways?

>> No.3255186

>Is there anything you like about modern Japan that doesn't involve anime or fetishes?

I love troll threads!

>> No.3255206

Uh, OP, you realize /jp/ is just for the crap that can't be posted in /a/, right?

With that said, I'm going to agree with >>3255143.
And on top of this, the natural scenery and the food.

>> No.3255207

Wow, relax guys, this is just a casual question. I just thought that since there are always 3 or more threads discussing touhou at any one time and tons of moeshit making up the rest maybe it was time for a regular thread about japan.

>> No.3255211

Food, but that's not really modern. I guess railways and general transportation culture? I like the idea of going around in high tech public transportation without the New York level likelihood of getting stabbed.

>> No.3255221

>>3255211

Yeah, I wish America had a railway system on par with Japan or any other developed nation. Amtrack is a joke and the government is too lazy to spend any money developing one.

>> No.3255227

>>3255207

I FUCKING LOVE BEING TROLLED.

Please sir, may I have some more?

>> No.3255231

>>3255221
You have to remember Japan's size relative to the US. You could do more there with less track than you could in the states.

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>>3255227
It sounds like you're going into withdrawal.

>> No.3255245

The internet speed. I wish the rest of the world could keep the same standard.

>> No.3255252

Phones and public transportation.

Phones in Europe don't have shit on the Japanese models, and every time I leave the capital of my country, everything that has to do with public transportation is either delayed or poorly scheduled.
It sure is brilliant to arrive at the train station near my parents' house 1 minute after the bus has left the station.
Spending 1 hour waiting for the next bus sucks.

>> No.3255255

>modern Japan

Haha no. Japan is a very fucked place to live now. That place sucks out all sense of individualism out of you.

>> No.3255256

>>3255207
We answered your question. Don't get offended just because you didn't like the answer.

>> No.3255269

>>3255252

You can easily spend 1 hour waiting for the next bus/train in japan if you ever venture outside of the urban/industrial core so it really isn't that different.

>>3255231
Basically what he said

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3255285

TBH, the thing about japan I like the most happens to be the train system. I just today got the chance to use a train going from misawa to Hachinohe and I have to admit it was alot of fun. for 4 dollars American, you get a decent seat on the train which reminds me heavily of airlines rather than any subway I have ridden.

I have to say, the bus system needs work....

>> No.3255301

Another complaint about the transit system: Why, even in Tokyo with it's long distance commuters and great nightlife, do they not have services after midnight?

Even the pathetic transit where I live has early morning services for dudes out of their mind drunk. It is not hard to do.

>> No.3255303

>>3255255
Why is individualism supposed to be such a good thing anyway?

>> No.3255308

>>3255285

I liked it how it didn't tell me when a bus was arriving, only giving me arbitrary "soon", "almost" and "its far away" lights.

>> No.3255315

>>3255269
I have the feeling that the public transportation is improved purely for the sake of ensuring salarymen arrive to work quickly, efficiency rather than for the comfort of it's traveling citizens. While it is extremely punctual, the trains are also typically cramped like sardines exactly, making trains a living hell exactly when they are needed the most.

The politicians are still selfish and stuck-up jerks even in progressive and modern Japan

>> No.3255321

Also, take this from someone who lives in japan presently:

1. the building style is more: heres a sweet ass bilding but oh wait! heres a semi ragged 1980s model building which hasn't been pressure washed.

2. The japanese all think we drive zetsubon cars and surf suvs.

3. the train system outside of the major urban areas run 45 minutes on the hour with 3 major northern lines which determine how much money you are going to spend.

4. the japanese require 2 basic types of insurance:
JCI and a secondary internet service.

5. Internet can be mad slow here because of the heavy load most servers have. The recent earthquakes, and the area you live in.

6 most areas still do not have cable tv so alot of people use sats or antenna.

7. American cell phones are banned in japan due to the frequency allocation.

8. You will get stared at alot.

9. Japanese people are very VERY honest. They appreciate the laypersons curiosity at their marvels and specialties (Anime and games anyone?) Though do NOT be loud in public.

10. If you REALLY wanna make a friend quick; If you see someone smoking and you have a few extra american cigs, give them one. They LOVE 'merican smokes.

11. DO NOT LOOK LOST. If you REALLY have a problem or are lost, look for the nearest police station and ask for assistance. Japanese law requires at least 1 person to be on shift who can understand and speak english. They will help.

>> No.3255333

>>3255308
I was in hachinohe today and waiting on a bus to get me back to the station. It was DAMNED impossible to tell which one was and which one wasn't I ended up having to ask a local if she could point me at the right bus.

Without her, I would have been standing stupidly for hours.

Tomorrow is Aomori and out from there. I've been spending my non work weekends exploring the area.

Also, sunrise= 4am
sunset=6pm

Oh. My. God.

>> No.3255335

>>3255173
When? The civil war, tokugawa, meiji or imperialist era?
>>3255206
meh
>>3255211
>>3255252
>>3255269
>>3255285
You'd think that in America trains would be more important because they are more efficient, maybe Japan is just better.
>>3255255
Only if you work in a non-supervisory job.
>>3255321
Do not look lost? What happens? xD

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3255345

>>3255335

>xD

>> No.3255346

>>3255321
>>3. the train system outside of the major urban areas run 45 minutes on the hour with 3 major northern lines which determine how much money you are going to spend.

That's still leagues better than here.

>> No.3255347

>>3255333

When I was there a few years back I was waiting for a bus, I think I was there for an hour or so, so I ended up walking back to where I was staying. All the while the bus sign was displayed as "NEARLY HERE OKAY".

Japan's the kind of country I'd hate to live in, though. I mean for 2 weeks or so its fine, but I'd rather live in a lot of other countries. I hope my girlfriend doesn't expect me to move to Osaka if it turns out well, my god.

>> No.3255365

>>3255335
>You'd think that in America trains would be more important because they are more efficient, maybe Japan is just better.

Nope. In america, only major subway trains are electric. In Japan, all the trains I have ran into so far are electric even the long distance trains (I'm not saying there are not diesel powered trains. America has CSX with 400 miles to a gallon of diesel which is DAMNED impressive)

But with americans, we would rather drive or fly somewhere rather than commute greatish distances via trains. Japanes? They don't mind they believe in the saying that the journey is the adventure etc.

If you look lost though....

Well I can tell you've never left the country with that statement. If you look lost you are saying "Look at me I am lost and can be taken advantage of" Human trafficking and such is a big problem in the asian countries. The wrong people spot you looking lost. The wrong people make you Vanish.

So ALWAYS walk with a purpose.

Plus dilly dallying in japan is considered rude.
I got an old lady biddying me out last week cause I stopped somewhere in public and drank milk tea.

My ears still hurt....

>> No.3255359

>>3255321
This sounds pretty cool.
Especially the 8. and 9..

>> No.3255372

>>3255315

Salarymen usually spend 1-3 hours commuting to work a day which is why they often spend the night in the city and return home on the weekends.

This is also why it makes less sense for them to suspend services between 12-5.

>>3255335

Don't get me wrong Japan's transit system is still great and better then anything else I have ever experienced and all that jazz however there are also many valid criticisms of it.

>> No.3255377

>>3255321
>11. DO NOT LOOK LOST. If you REALLY have a problem or are lost, look for the nearest police station and ask for assistance. Japanese law requires at least 1 person to be on shift who can understand and speak english. They will help.

Weird. Last summer I was trying to find my way from Shibuya, looking around like a lost cat. A police came and directly asked me in English where I was trying to go. After that whenever I needed help on pathfinding I feigned dumb and everytime an officer would come to my help

>> No.3255381

>>3255365
Should have spit the milk at her.

>> No.3255384

>>3255377

I ended up getting lost in Shibuya and finding a toy store with an entire floor of Pokemon merchandise, shit was so cash.

>> No.3255396

>>3255377
>Shibuya

Thats why.
Tokyo=tourist area.

I'm going Japan/General here. Not Tokyo/General.

Tokyo is a differant ballpark since so many Caucasian people go there. (Also, African americans will more likely than not get the girl 9times out of 10. Japanese girls like da nigra )

>> No.3255407

>>3255396
In the last 1/10 there's always the "[x] Rape her" option.

>> No.3255408

>>3255365
Wasn't it considered bad manners to eat and drink in public?
With the exception of during festivals and at food stands.

>> No.3255409

>>3255396
ah that sounds logical

>> No.3255425

>>3255377

Any place in Tokyo is always an exception to the rule since there's a million tourists and it's accomidating to them.

It's kind of annoying too because when you go into places people are used to anticipating a mute clueless tourist and they treat you likewise even if you can communicate like a normal resident.

>> No.3255441

Countryside, urban areas...the general structure of the place.

>> No.3255455

>>3255425
Would coming with a Japanese friend help? (Not that I have any, of course. Just think of the situation).

>> No.3255464

>>3255345
wut.
>>3255365
No actually I've been to Brazil which is full of decrepid levels of poverty but I suppose there's no false sense of security there and everyone has a gun. I'm not sure why anyone would want to kidnap me anyway.
>>3255365
>>3255372
Nothing's perfect. As oil prices rise we will probably see some high speed perfectly straight international rail networks in the US in the near future.

>> No.3255468

I like their food just alittle bit and their public transporation is far better than that in NYC.

I also like their women but that's just because I have yellow fever.

>> No.3255469

>>3255377
You should have just said 日本語でおk

>> No.3255491

>>3255408

Yeah I found that out the hard way....

-smiles guiltily-

>>3255455

If you have one then yes.
I must stress the importance of not looking too much like a tourist. Alot of americans have no idea how rough the real world is outside of the states. If you get into some kind of trouble out there you are pretty much SOL.

>> No.3255499

>Alot of americans have no idea how rough the real world is outside of the states
It's probably worse inside the States.

>> No.3255502

>>3255491
Alright, cool.
Good thing I'm not American, then.

>> No.3255519

>>3255499
Bwahahaha. I live in the suburbs an life is amazingly cushy.

>> No.3255530

>>3255455

Depends on where you're going, if you go to a place frequented by foreigners they might assume that your asian friend is also a foreigner. They will always judge by appearance get used to it. Tokyo is kind of a bit ruined by tourists imo.

Following up with what Kaede said on my last trip there is one thing that tourists did that annoyed me the most: For the love of god stop taking photos of fucking everything, especially in arcades we are not animals in a zoo.

When even museums in Japan have signs up in english saying no photography you know that there has to be a problem.

>> No.3255557

>>3255530
How do you say "bloody tourists" in japanese?

>> No.3255573

>>3255557
"baka gaijin"

>> No.3255582

Traditional Japanese architecture is cool but their modern architecture is just AMERICA BURNED DOWN OUR CITIES, TIME TO REBUILD WITH CONCRETE FOR CHEAP with a few exceptions. What are you smoking OP?

>> No.3255594

>>3255530

No fucking way. Those narrow-eyed bastards took a picture every minute in my country. It's called revenge

>> No.3255601

>>3255530
>For the love of god stop taking photos of fucking everything, especially in arcades we are not animals in a zoo.

>Implying foreigners do not take pictures of america

>> No.3255616

I enjoy the sheer difference in culture and their music.

And the typical animu, vidya and VNs.

>> No.3255622

>>3255530
Museums in the US have signs saying no photography.

>> No.3255669

>>3255530
Oh the irony! In the rest of the world one of the stereotypes about Japanese tourists is that they're crazy about taking pictures.

BTW No photography signs are common in museums in the west too. In Europe they are usually written in several languages. Doesn't mean there's a problem with foreigners, just that the museum prefers you support them by buying cards in the gift shop. Sometimes the display objects are light sensitive so flash is forbidden. Except they ban all cameras because people are too stupid to turn off the flash or, worse, they are among the many many visitors who think they are an exception ("just this once won't hurt").

>> No.3255673

>>3255601

How did I imply that? They go nuts with the camera here too. I've never seen japanese tourists try to take pictures of porn stores though or random dudes without asking for permission.

>>3255622

Only signs I have seen are up because they are trying to sell you dumb postcards of the thing or some other commerical robbery. The entire museum at yazukuni shrine is a no photography zone.

>> No.3255694

I like the internet culture, no srsly. VIPPERs are hardcore, man.

>> No.3255707

⊂二二二( ^ω^)二⊃ブーン

>> No.3255721

>>3255673
Yeah but when people see Japanese taking photos of everything they take a jolly perspective while you seem to have some kind of deep seething insidious hatred towards anyone who dares take a few leisurely holiday snaps apon your sacred wapanese soil. So what if someone wants to take a picture of a porn store, it's a bit unusual but there's no reason to lose sleep over it.

>> No.3255728

awesome tâwa!

>> No.3255735

Yodobashi Camera, I live off of this place.

>> No.3255774

>>3255721

Well for one it's usually explictly forbidden and there are even signs saying so (in english). What do you think this indicates about the relationship the shop keeper has with tourists?

>> No.3255786

Architecture, technology, nature, convenience, not to mention vidya and animu.
Everywhere you go it's EYE CANDY OVERLOAD

>> No.3255821

>>3255673
>>3255721
Only Japanese and possibly German porn stores have live action tentacle rape dvds, loli rape games, anime girl pussy-cups, used underwear, and freaky vibrators that look like small engines.

It's worth taking pictures of.

>> No.3255829

>>3255774
>What do you think this indicates about the relationship the shop keeper has with tourists?

NO GAIJINS ARROUD

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