Hatsukoi

[last tread's OP No.]

continuing yesterday's tread.

To Incest guy: I have a question for you. Apparently you and I share the same taste in this sort of thing. I to much prefer the story and the love over the sex. Do you know of other good games like Hatsukoi, involving loli and/or incest, and with a really good story, not just sex, but translated? Or at least with some way or an other to read what they say. I'm into things like love, cuteness, adorability, cuddling, happyness, etc.

Also, just by curiosity, what game are you working on translating at the moment?

To anyone else, don't hesitate to share if you know of any such game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3247959
>Do you know of other good games like Hatsukoi, involving loli and/or incest, and with a really good story, not just sex, but translated?
>translated
...

( ・-・)

You should be able to solve this for yourself.

[last tread's OP No.]

for those of you who didn't follow last tread, it was about one of the best incest game out there, Hatsukoi, which you can find here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2CGBVJMX

we where trying to find a way to translate it. Someone found a way to extract the files, you can find them here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=679d095c1bc2d55e931c7453395df025ff233dc7a2237f61ce018c8114394287

but, although we where really close, we can't seem to... read them/get the text from them.

Any help would be great, otherewise, we'll have to learn Japanese to play this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248004
If you are going to translate with this level of English, you'd better stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248004
I know enough Japanese to translate this game within four weeks.

I am expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248117

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248135
Enjoy your machine code.
If you expect nothing for something/give it back later through donations then you won't get much of anything you want accomplished.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, since I am planning on learning Japanese (I already started, but I had to stop because of insane work hours), if any of you know of any such game, but who aren’t translated, feel free to share those as well. I'll store them for later.

>>3248070

No, not me obviously. Incest guy had proposed to translate it if someone can provide him with the texts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248158

All right then, how much is 'expensive'?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248166
1,500 words $30. Counted from Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248209

And how many words would that be all up? Final price, man, I don't care about the hourly rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248226
You.... do understand that you still have to give me the script. Unless you're asking that I have the script extracted, translated and have a patch prepared/tested then you'll have to wait until tomorrow for the pricing since I'll need to contact my guy for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248246

Then why did you say you could have it translated in 4 weeks if you don't know how long it is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248268
The possibility this game has over 350,000 words is slim.

[Anonymous No.]

I answered you yesterday, must've fallen off the board before you got it. If you like loli romance the only other one I've got for you is Oyatsu no Jikan which is awfully cute. Not as good as Hatsukoi but it's got it's moments. I especially loved Chocolate. Ice Cream was meh, Pudding was ULTRA LOLI; I mean, she acts like, looks like, and sounds like a 6 year old which is way too much for me, Shiratama was ok, Shortcake was cute, but Chocolate was GODLY. It's got more sex than I'm comfortable with but it was cute enough I didn't mind. Not translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248004
Those files are pretty worthless for me, they're basically script files and I have 0 computer experience which was obvious during the last thread.

The only game that's really cute with a good story that's translated is Wanko to Kurasou which everyone knows about and 99% of /jp/ has played.

Kiss Me! Me! was cute but meh, I give it a 5 out of 10. I dunno, I liked Haramin well enough to recommend it I suppose. The best friend route was the good one but your little sister is sweet too. The other games by Swaneye weren't as good.

The little sister route in Koichu Koi ni Koi Suru Kata Omoi was nice. There were some decent moments in it but it's not a great game.

Give me time to finish reading through Clover Point which is another game often given very very high rankings and I'll probably have another title for you to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a complete dumbass. There's one other just as good as Hatsukoi. Somehow I forgot about it.

Born Freaks.

Other than the fact that there's RPG elements that take up 90% of your time it's an excellent story.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I've got some of the scripts now. If you're really going to translate it I can dump all of them. You'll have to find someone else to repack them though.

http://www.mediafire.com/?chzmw2jm2mj

By the way, I replaced all 0x00 with 0x0D 0x0A since the script would be pretty hard to read otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248858
Looks like the full route for two of the girls. If this is all then do you want the assessment or do you want to see product before agreeing to a number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248858
This'll take me a bit. I'll start working on it today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3249017
You should be careful. Those are just memory dumps. They might not be complete. You should really try to find someone to reverse those BCS files for you as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>3250754

Glad to see I'm not the only one keeping an eye on this tread :)

[Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx No.]

Akane iro's little sister route was pretty decent I though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248858

Thank you! Can you please post the other parts?
I know that even if the other guy dosn't translate them, someone will. The important part is to have the texts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3248825
>To do that, they have to try cultivating different strains in Cell's body and inject them into her body in a way that won't be rejected by her immune system. And the only way to do that is by sex...
wwwww

[Anonymous No.]

OP here, I’m back after another long day at work.
First, thank you >>3248858 for some of the texts. I don’t know how you did it, and I’m admittedly quite curious about that. I have to second the request to post the other parts though. Without that, there is no translation.

And hell, if it’s just too long and boring to get the texts, I would be totally willing, even happy, to do it in your place. If, of course, you don’t mind explaining how you managed this exploit? Or just pointing me the some webpage that explains it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad to see this game has the potential of being translated.

[last tread's OP No.]

If this game get’s translated, I’m might use it as part of my learning of Japanese. It would be fun not only to have both Japanese and English versions of a text, but also actually find the text interesting.

[last tread's OP No.]

Anyway, it's late, I'm going to bed.
If this tread is gone tomorrow, I'll make another. Can’t let this project die!

Just remember I'm willing to extract the texts from the files, all I need to know is how :P

[Anonymous No.]

>>3247959
this guy are sick

[Anonymous No.]

>>3251667
Like I said, I have no clue how the files are encrypted and compressed. I'm pretty much still a beginner when it comes to reverse engineering. The engine has to decrypt the scripts before starting the game, so you'd naturally find them in hatsukoi's memory.
I just dumped the whole thing and looked for the scripts.

You can also insert stuff this way. It's a dirty hack though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3253845
good enough for me

[last tread's OP No.]

>>3253845

This actually makes a lot of sense. I'd like to try, mind explaining it a bit more? How do you "dump the whole thing"? Where do you look for the scripts?

Like I said, if it's to complicated to explain, and don't want to get into it, can you at least point me to some webpage that explains it or something? So I can figure it out by myself. I'm totally willing to do all the hard work myself to get this done. Well, except for the translation obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3256719
First start the game. Then look for "hatsukoi.bin" in the task manager. Right-click it. There should be some option like "create dump file". This will take a few seconds. When it finishes, just open the dump file in a hex editor. You should be able to find the script files in there.

[last tread's OP No.]

>>3257185

Ok, will do. This may take a while. Have to find a hex editor (any suggestions?) and learn how that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3257211
Use HxD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3251585
sounds believable

[last tread's OP No.]

Ok, clearly I'm way over my head with this hex editor thing. Yet I feel I'm really really close!

I was able to create a dump file and open it in HxD. Nothing hard there really. But how do I find the text in there? I can see the content, but I think the problem is it's not interpreting the data as Japanese characters, and I just get... well, an image is worth a thousand words, so see attached image.

Obviously I played with the options to try to get something a bit more comprehensible. I could get Japanese characters by selecting EBCDIC, but it seemed to be the same badly interpreted data, just with random Japanese characters inserted into it.

How did you get from this to what you posted here? >>3248858

[Anonymous No.]

>>3257954
install ime...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3257954
As you can see from the scripts I dumped alreay every scrip has teh same lines at the beginning. Let's take "%line" as an example. Just ascii-search for %line a few times. You'll end up here (pic). That's the beginning of a script file. To find the end just scroll down until you see alot of 00s. Copy paste everything into a new file and save it. That's all.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll just leave this here....

[Anonymous No.]

>>3257980

Done, but it doesn't make any difference. I even tried installing the Japanese version of HxD, and it still gives me the same thing. I think it could be a Windows Vista problem. Do you have Vista?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3258122
You're not supposed to read the script in HxD. Copypaste it in a new file and view it with Wordpad or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3258122
Then you need applocal to run your hex editor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3258098
>>3258215

Done, but the text in the file is also a garbled mess.

>>3258246

I'm back with the English version of HxD, but I'll try this anyway, who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3258308
>Done, but the text in the file is also a garbled mess.
It shouldn't be. You're doing something wrong then.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3257954
>>3258098

This is interesting. Have a bump for learning something useful.
I've also been interested in reverse engineering VNs but lolOSX so I'll follow along and see how I can help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3258351

If it's not to much to ask, can you try to get the japanese texts aswell? Maybe its my stupid operating system that has a mind of it's own or something. It's really not that hard to get to the point where I'm stuck. Install the game (>>3248004), install HxD. Then do this >>3257185. Then, try to copy/paste the garbled mess into a text file see if you get something.

In the meantime, I'm installing AppLocale to see if it makes a difference.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3258473
Currently downloading to try it out.
I'll follow along with what I can.
Got finals on Monday and Tuesday with a crapload of busy work to turn in so I might lag with getting results until then.
Who're we kidding? I'll post them up as soon as I can

[Anonymous No.]

Well, apparently, applocale is an application to run a program in any language. If I run HxD in japanese, I obviously still get a garbled mess. Only it's a Japanese garbled mess. And it still copy/pastes the exact same thing.

The problem here is simple, I copy the text in HxD, and when I paste it in a text file, or in microsoft word, I get the exact same thing I copied. I don't know HOW you >>3258313 manage to get something different. I don't even know how that would be possible.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else had more luck? I'm runing out of things to try. Any help would be REALLY appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, shit's complicated. Well, to a retard like me at least. scenario.xp contains lzss compressed .bcs which are themselves lzss compressed and contain some table and the bit-inverted script. Each has headers, checksums and whatnot, and I don't yet understand what that table is there for. lzss variant used is described in that susie plugin, which luckily has source included, so it may help anyone trying to write the tools.
Oh, and you don't need to use the scenario.xp file, just rename it, create scenario.xp directory and place .bcs there, that removes one layer of compressiion.

[hippycrusher No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>3259250

Ok, there is no words to describe how much you lost me there. And considering you consider yourself a retard on the subject, imagine what that makes me lol! But all I know is, this guy here >>3248858 found a way to copy the Japanese texts from the game, and that’s all we need, no matter how it's achieved, and even if it's somewhat incomplete.

So if whoever this person is could, out of the goodness of his heart, provide us with the remaining Japanese texts (please, I'm begging you!) or if someone could help me do it myself, we might have a chance to translate this gem of a game to English.

In the meantime, I'm trying it on my other, older, non-vista computer see if I have more luck.

[Lmm No.]

>>3259250
God, gotta love these crazy archive formats. I'll take a look once I've downloaded the game itself. What do the entries in the table look like? Could they be indexes of the different screens or something?

[Lmm No.]

>>3259398
The memory dump approach is a poor one; don't get me wrong, it's a useful starting point, but it gives us no clue as to how to put the translated scripts back in. If you wanted to get the rest of the scripts by that method you'd probably have to play through to the right parts of the game, which is likely going to take longer (and be a lot less reliable) than waiting for someone to figure out the archive format "properly".

[Anonymous No.]

What's this, a new pedo game?
Good heavens, just what we need in /jp/, for the pedos to return.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3259496
Hey, Japanese Bird! Don't you have some spaghetti to cook?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3259496
What makes you think we ever left?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3259460

If someone can actually decrypt the archived files, he will no doubt be a hero to more than a few people here.

But, me, I don't have the genius nor knowledge to do something like this. Yet I really want to help. So I'm doing what I can. If I can get the text, and can find someone to translate it, we might not be able to put it back in the game, but we can at least play the game, even if it's just with a printed piece of paper with the English translation.

Otherwise, if you guys know of anyway I could help do it the RIGHT way, don't hesitate to ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3259441
Looks like the script bytes are somehow shuffled before inverting, maybe that's what the table is for.

Script starts from the GMS header.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3259589
I see a dwarf in there.

[Anonymous No.]

Started looking through the files today. Yesterday was kinda fun, Ponyo and all. Anyway, I don't know if I should be touching some of this shit. I'm not even sure what part of the game this takes place in yet but I've just been browsing Practically every line says Anzu even when I'm pretty sure she's not speaking. There's a few lines that say Jin, the default name for the protagonist but it just repeats the kanji a couple times then repeats the kanji for Anzu and says a line of text.

I really don't know if I'm supposed to be translating every kanji that says Anzu or if those lines are used by the program for something ... like, voiced lines or whatever.

Translated just 3 easy lines. If someone could check out what it does to the game that would be great.

http://www.mediafire.com/?m5xgzweyy5o

[Lmm No.]

>>3259578

Hmm, fair enough. I'm on holiday for a month but will try and take a look after that if it hasn't been solved by then.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

This seems to be a LZSS de/compressor that needs to be compiled to work. I'm digging around for the VB.net disks I got some time ago since I don't program on Windows.
http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?lngWId=1&txtCodeId=1821

>>3259250
How did you decompress them to that level? Cause I don't want to install VB.net unless I need to since it screws up some stuff and my XP restore image is kinda old. Unlike my OSX

[Anonymous No.]

All right, I'm going to assume that whatever work you guys are talking about needs to go forward first before any translation can continue. I'll wait on translation until then. All I know is you guys are way over my head. Good luck.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3260038
I'm trying to use whatever the guys that translated Little Busters! used since their info seems to be plastered all over the net.

http://dev.haeleth.net/rldev.shtml
This seems to me the decompiler engine they used and I'm trying to get it to work.
Downloading Cygwin due to XP issues I don't want to deal with

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the script including the system files.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2XEBXHD2
I didn't touch them, you can search and replace 00 for 0D0A with any hexeditor for readability. But without the repack tools it might be dangerous to translate them because they may require some reformatting later. Then again, maybe there won't be a repack tool at all.

>>3259937
You need a specific lzss variant used in the game, susie plugin with source which has it
http://gocha.s151.xrea.com/wiki/Susie.html
called spiruneg [2006-09-11]
There's only decompression though, you'll need to make corresponding compresion routine yourself.

I'm off to sleep now

[Anonymous No.]

>>3260075
what? but that's for reallive, not for rune's engine

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3260087
>>3260087
NOW you tell me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3260113
shouldn't it have been obvious? i mean, it's not a reallive game, is it? the executable you run isn't reallive.exe, there's no seen.txt in the game directory, there's no gameexe.ini etc.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>3260124
There's also me not know jack about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3260079

Awesome! We seem to have the whole text in Japanese! THANKS! If all else fails, we at least have this, which can be translated. And who knows, possibly even put back in the game, maybe, as seen here >>3253845. Anyway, we are definitely going somewhere.

>>3259604

I would, but I have no idea how he did it (>>3253845).
I think you are right to put a hold on the translation for the time being though, to wait and see if those knowledgefull guys can decompress the actual files.... then again, it IS the same text. Anything you translate now will be already translated for later.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, and thanks again for offering to translate it. We couldn’t do it without you!

[Anonymous No.]

You should make a webpage or make a TLWIki page.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

In an effort to help the translation, I will post here some the info and files I think are important, at least to get started, for easy access to those working on this translation project, and anyone who would like to help.

Hatsukoi is rated among the best of the incest games. From the original poster: "It's what I believe would happen if two siblings really did fall in love." You can download it here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2CGBVJMX

Official site: http://products.rune.jp/catalogue/r011hatsukoi/

We are working on decompressing the actual files, which can be found here (I think):

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=679d095c1bc2d55e931c7453395df025ff233dc7a2237f61ce018c8114394287

Some really smart person also found a way to get the Japanese text from the memory dump. It might not be the cleanest way to do it, but it seems we now have the entire Japanese texts from the game! It can all be found here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2XEBXHD2

Now these files are admittedly pretty hard to read as is. It was mentioned that by using a hex editor, we can search and replace 00 with 0D0A or 0x00 with 0x0D 0x0A or something like that, to increase legibility, like these 2 parts here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?chzmw2jm2mj

I'm not sure how to do this exactly, but it would certainly help the translator to know, as for now they are pretty hard to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3265139
Just select Search-Replace, enter the values and click replace all.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to help, but I'm currently on bandwith limit until mid september, and spending 1GB of transfer just for this is a waste.

[Anonymous No.]

Good luck

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone try to make a lite version removing cg's and sounds? If I can debug how the exe reads a script I could make a decoder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267306
I'll give it a try. My upload speed is like 20kbs/sec though. So this may take awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267306
It uses Safedisc protection to check for cd before reading scripts though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267398
>check for cd
Huh? Not really. I don't have any ISOs mounted and it works just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267306
160mb on megaupload good for you?

[Anonymous No.]

Est time 1hr 20min until upload complete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267469
if you can't make it smaller, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3267542
Here you go
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D7VB4HFS

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268071
it asks for the cd

[Anonymous No.]

if there are two files named user.key and env.key created when the game is running, could someone upload them? maybe I can fool the protection with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268638
I'll see what I can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268638
are you running it with jap locale?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268638
An env.key was made.
That's the only .key I see
Will that be sufficient enough?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z5KMMWTA
(env.key and envkey.dll)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268665
because when I ran it without jap locale, it didn't need the disc, but with it it did for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the status here? You got what you needed?

[Anonymous No.]

Anonymous putting in all their efforts to translate instead of just leeching ? Whoa, and I thought I've already seen everything in 4chan.

Yes, I'm a leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268749
with the 160MB version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3268941
no, with full. Maybe that env.key is hardware dependent and generated upon installation, because mine is different from the uploaded one.

[Anonymous No.]

bump for great project

[Anonymous No.]

>>3269138
I've discovered that env.key is xor'd with 0x0D, so it's possibly to modify it, though there's a hash that I have yet to find out what is it from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3269346
How's the work going?

[Anonymous No.]

MOTHERFUCKING JESUSCHRIST

I finally managed to run the game. In order to run without cd you need a valid env.key and run hatsukoi.bin (renamed to something.exe). But the trick is getting a valid env.key, since it's created from info of your system.

Reversing how the env.key is created would take too much time, so I tried a crazy approach. I downloaded the full game from a dedicated server, extracted the cd images and shared the folder through NFS.
Then I mounted that remote shared folder in my system, shared it through samba to the vmware and finally mounted the cd with daemon tools. After 5 minutes the game finally started and created the precious env.key.

tldr: managed to make the 160MB version work and can start reversing how the scripts are decoded

[Anonymous No.]

>>3270453
Nice. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.]

Sleeping time. The decompression function is quite easy, with only a couple of tweaks I can reuse the code from another project (japs sure love their lzss).

Tomorrow more.

[Anonymous No.]

bump this awesome project.

[Cudder of REchan !MhMRSATORI!!M/1aw1CrAJA No.]

>>3270453
I'm going to see if I can get it running without env.key, or otherwise just bypass this protection. Would you prefer an env.keygen or a patched EXE?

[Cudder of REchan !MhMRSATORI!!M/1aw1CrAJA No.]

>>3272073
Well, that was easy...

offset prev new
00042CF4 [74 08] [90 90]
00042E04 [74 08] [90 90]
00042F14 [74 08] [90 90]

Patch those 3 places and it won't ever need an env.key or user.key

Now, to start figuring out GML_ARC...

[Anonymous No.]

Woah! I can't believe how much progress you guys are making! And yet I have no clue whatsoever of what you guys are talking about half the time :P So I've got to say, I'm impressed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3272389
GML_ARC doesn't need to be reversed at the moment. The extracted scripts are already posted and if you put them in a folder named scenario.xp the game will load them from there.

[Cudder of REchan !MhMRSATORI!!M/1aw1CrAJA No.]

>>3273386
Just bumping for another update: GML_ARC format has now been 99% documented. The scenario.xp workaround is interesting, but being able to pack the scripts back into one neat package is even better.

I'll take my nightly rest now. I'm expecting to have working extract/import tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I've figured most of the script decoding, so I'll start coding something.