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Getting more lives and bombs entails collecting specifically colored UFOs, which can often get you killed or force you to bomb, negating the positive. Hardest collection system check.

Cards feature more instances of multiple danmaku types (lasers, set path, homing), some include as many as 4. Most complicated danmaku check.

Curving lasers with collision boxes bigger than they are (a first in Touhou). Most bullshit check.

Byakuren's card on Hard and Lunatic is completely, totally impossible to capture. I have yet to see anyone even survive the last phase 5 seconds. Getting by on one death or a couple survival bombs (which don't damage her, since last card). Most bullshit double check.

ZUN really turned the difficulty up since MoF. SA was hard, UFO is easily the hardest in the series.

>> No.3195692

>Byakuren's card on Hard and Lunatic is completely, totally impossible to capture. I have yet to see anyone even survive the last phase 5 seconds. Getting by on one death or a couple survival bombs (which don't damage her, since last card). Most bullshit double check.

I lost my last two lives on one Hard run as well. I got by with only one deathbomb this time, though. It's just luck if it opens up.

>> No.3195698

I can't comment on Hard/Lunatic modes since I haven't tried those yet, but on Normal the game isn't really that harder than the rest of the series, especially not harder than SA. Sure, the UFO system distracts a lot and that can cause a lot of mistakes, but the boss spells are generally possible to capture. The stages are easier too, and although Byakuren seems hard at first, at least on normal I still put Utsuho above her. For survival it's really a walk in the park if you abuse of the red/green UFOs, you can max out your lives by Stage 3 or 4 I think.

>> No.3195722

You have to remember tough that no touhou game up to this point gave the player that many lives and bombs.
You can die multiple times and still have a full live stock at the 5th boss, and that's with messing up ufo collection multiple times.

>> No.3195734

>UFO is easily the hardest in the series

Hahaha, oh wow.

>> No.3195870

Well I just tried hard run and, well that was a step up compared to my other hard clears, EoSD and IN. I guess I'll go back and try to PCB hard clear and later on try UFO again.

>> No.3195882

>>3195722
>no touhou game up to this point gave the player that many lives and bombs

Sounds like you haven't played Extra yet.

>> No.3195889

>>3195882
Sounds like I was talking about a 6 Stage run.

>> No.3195910

The regular game is pretty hard, but gives you a lot of lives. Extra gives you a couple at most, but it's the easiest Extra stage next to Subterranean Animism.

>> No.3195934

>>3195649
Have you tried Google?
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SA and UFO are overflowing with gimmicky patterns that fuck you in the eyes the first time. That shit was usually on the harder difficulties and extra so easy-normal modo people didn't need to deal with it.

He also uses more aimed fire from MoF onwards so you can't just nudge your touhou 2 pixels every 10 seconds for the whole of the first 3 stages. Though this is welcome.

And it's a given the UFO system sucks. Even people who liked it think it's shit now because the sheer density of the whining.

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There's a reason it's called Lunatic.

>> No.3196150

>>3195949

>more aimed fire
>so you can't just nudge your touhou 2 pixels every 10 seconds

Surely increased aimed fire facilitates streaming, rather than prevents it?

>> No.3196162

>>3196150
That's nudging them 2 pixels every second.

Very different than 2 pixels every 10 seconds.

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>>3195910
>Implying that SA's Extra was easy compared to the others

>> No.3197395

>UFO is easily the hardest in the series

Because you have to collect UFOs

>> No.3197467

>>3195649
>Byakuren's card on Hard and Lunatic is completely, totally impossible to capture

What the fuck are you talking about? The day after release I found a 1cc lunatic run on royal flare that captures it. And that might have even been posted the day it came out.

>> No.3197520

>>3195649
>Even people who liked it think it's shit now because the sheer density of the whining.

Shouldn't they think that the people that are doing the whining are shit, rather then the system?

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