/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Play any MMORPGs, /jp/?

[Frenchfag !4ToUU65/t2 No.]

stopped playing MMORPG long time ago, they are all the same shit so i'm waiting for the St.Graal of MMORPG

[Anonymous No.]

I played valkyrie sky(now it's closed) and now i'm playing phantasy star.

[Anonymous No.]

I play Phantasy Star Online on a private server.

All my friends got into the Champions Online beta, but I didn't.

Now I'll never be Kamen Rider.

;____;

[Anonymous No.]

I'm waiting for this one new Korean MMO that plays like a 3D fighting game. It's going to suck and it's never going to be in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177397
What's it called?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm waiting for that uh...fallen earth? game

First mmo that takes place on earth, post-apocalyptic but nonetheless I look forward to it. I only know that one of the races starts out in the grand canyon

[Anonymous No.]

I am Knight Hart

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177397
Why are you waiting for a game that's destined to suck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177409
c9?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177452

DID YOU ACQUIRE MAGIC HALO ACCESSORY?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177484
IT HAS A .00001% PICKUP RATE! IT'S ONE OF THE RAREST IN THE GAME. YOU BETETRETRETRR BELIEVE I HAVE IT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177416
Atlantica Online takes place on Earth (a very scaled-down Earth, but that's pretty much a necessity unless the game is only going to span one country or something).

After quitting that and Mabinogi, I gave up on Korean MMOs completely (they were two of the best I'd played and still didn't cut it)

Right now I'm playing WoW; I swore I'd never touch it, but I found myself with nothing to do but play Touhou and Hearts of Iron 2. I needed an MMO to play and at that point it was either WoW or Runescape.

[Anonymous No.]

blade and soul looks like it would be really good

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177554

For 50$ I'll give you my WoW. 69 every job practically, hell there's even two paladins at 69. PVP server, most of em are twinked too. I have no use for this damn thing, game became incredibly lame ever since Lich king.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177409
Blade & Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtA1jSreK84
>>3177459
All games are destined to suck.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ talk about Corean and WoW??
What had science done

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting for Dungeon Fighter Online OB.

[None !4Ruskia3xU No.]

I stopped after I realized every game was just a remodeled version of the previous, with one or two irrelevant new features. I'm also not a great fan of amazingly long repetitiveness.

I might play some MMORPG in the future, as long as it's completely different from the others that I have played.

[Anonymous No.]

Vanguard had the most amazing craft system, it wasn't just clicking "create". it was interactive and FUN which seems impossible for crafting. Other than that the game was shit unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177601
no thanks, I never do stuff like buy accounts; anyway I'm the type of player that constantly rolls new characters... have one lvl 80 and a bunch of low level alts.

All of my characters are Touhou-themed, but not a single person has commented on it (the most obvious is my Undead warlock named Hakurei).

[Anonymous No.]

KOREA IS PIG DISGUSTING

[Anonymous No.]

what is OP's game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177781
ShitSux Online

[Anonymous No.]

sage for coreans.

[Reversetrap !39dOnad3Bg No.]

Emil Chronicle Online, /jp/ was playing this about a month ago.

[Boast !!Sl8b2DKVn6W No.]

>MMORPGs
Ah, damn you. I'm trying to forget about them, last one I played it sucked because of the lack of new content.

[Anonymous No.]

Sup.
I've quit

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

Somebody play Ether Saga with me! We have a /jp/ clan. East server.

Also for hjones: If you've stopped playing, could you quickly log on and make someone else the clan/alliance leader if that's possible? I hope you haven't stopped though.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are still playing Ether Saga?
Enjoy your WoW.

[Boast !!Sl8b2DKVn6W No.]

>>3177842
Maybe I'll check it out, I have some spare time.

[Koof !CUTE/F2gdA No.]

nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177842

What's it like exactly? I'm lookin for something to play

[Koof !CUTE/F2gdA No.]

>>3177765
i've had a lot of people comment on my guild wars touhou themed characters

[Lambda !DELTATiWVA No.]

>>3177858
Yes we do, we are having lots of fun..

[Remilia Scarlet !NOUx2Remio No.]

>>3177894
And here I thought I was the only person that still had Guild Wars.

[Anonymous No.]

I was playing a Corean glindan mmo for a year, became the best on the official server, got haxed, quit.
Glad I'm through with that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177842

I'm gonna download it when I go to bed tonight, I'll log on tomorrow morning and I guess try to message you for an invite to the guild? All depends on when your on I guess

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

>>3177872
Great!

>>3177893
Well I'm not completely sure what to say. I guess It's a pretty normal mmorpg. It's just very well made. The game works well and is just fun. One fun feature I like is the pet system. You can capture or buy pets to fight for you. They can have their own skills and equipment, and they can really make a difference. You can also fuse with them to share their HP, skills and stats for a big boost.
Another thing I guess I like about this game is how there are always lots of quests. Always stuff to do. The only grinding you are going to do is also when it's required of a quest, because when enemies give 500 exp, and you need 3 million to level up, grinding is otherwise a waste of time.

Oh and the most important thing: The girls are cute and the equipment looks cool.

[Anonymous No.]

Valkyrie Sky was aresome while it last.

Dungeon Fighter Online/Arad Senki is the new awesome and wish more /jp/ers will play it.

PSO is eternally awesome.

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

People can contact me in Ether Saga by PM'ing my character "Cisa". I'm online almost 24/7, although I may be AFK.

[Anonymous No.]

The problem with free MMORPGs is that there's not much incentive for the makers to invest much money in its development.
The problem with paying MMORPGs is that it's less costly to make everything painfully long and tedious than add new content.

In short, MMORPGs suck. IT'S A MUMORPUGER

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178009

I really wish I coulda enjoyed PSO, but the amount of skill on the random teams I joined was worse than b.net. I remember that first dragon boss fight, it almost looked like they were purposely running into his attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178026
Who the fuck doesn't know how to PSO nowdays?

Even newbies aren't bad nowadays maingame.

[Anonymous No.]

i play PSO, Mabinogi, Maplestory

[Boast !!Sl8b2DKVn6W No.]

>>3177995
Oh sounds good.
I enjoy grinding a bit, except when it becomes repetitive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178113
Ether Saga is bad.

Almost as horrible as ECO.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll just leave this here.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178178
But, I am rock bottom and can't enjoy anything in life anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh look, more aion viral.
What a wonderful surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178195
I forgot to say that Aion is worst of all and not even a NEET MMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178017
Thinking, at least on some level, about downloading this. I don't currently play any MMORPG, although I don't really know if I should either, as wasting my time hitting F5 and occasionally bothering to play or watch something is entertaining as well.

So, I skimread the mainpage/beginner guide and such, but care to explain the endgame/PvP/whatever comes to mind a bit more?

Oh, and the servertime is USA east/west coast time depending on server? I'd also suppose the majority of the players is from the USA - if so, does being from Europe have any drawbacks (Could figure ping, but more like regarding ingame features: raids/guild events and such)?

Currently considering playing Diablo 2 again when the ladder resets, but this must be the millionth time I start playing again, so might as well try something different instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178234

I'm going to be trying this tomorrow as well, if it doesn't work out I'd be up for playing diablo 2 again, its been years for me

[Anonymous No.]

MMOs are fucking terrible and playing one practically makes you a normalfag.

You're not a true NEET if you play an MMO because an MMO is a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178248

Flawless logic

[Anonymous No.]

Playing Japanese ECO while awaiting the release of English ECO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178248
Sunohara....is that you??!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178009
Fuck, I didn't even know someone was making an English version of that, I've been wanting one for ages.

Definitely going to play when it opens up again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177325
what game is that?

[Anonymous No.]

What MMORPG does most of /jp/ play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178521
DFO and PSO are the only ones that matter.

[Anonymous No.]

I play Guild Wars.
They're finally going to show the GW2 trailer in 12 hours.
Had to wait years for new info, but finally it's here ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play FFXI Online?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178530
>>3178657
Not NEET MMOs.

[Anonymous No.]

Phantasy Star Online and Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine Online.

>>3177995
I'd like Ether Saga if the camera didn't suck ass for people without a mouse.

[Anonymous No.]

has the dungeon fighter open beta started yet?

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

>>3178234
PvP works in the way that once you reach a certain lvl (40 iirc), you can kill, and be killed by other players when not in safe zones. Killing others gives you infamy points which I dunno what do.
Probably true about the time. Ping is not a problem. I live in denmark and the ping is always around 125ms which i think is pretty decent. No lagging. Also haven't had any problems because I'm from Europe.
About endgame, well... I'm lvl 48. One player so far has reached lvl 100 (not the limit). I don't think there are any big changes as you get higher up, as with most games.
let's see... skills. There are quite a lot. Something about the birthday you choose for your character also affects what skills you get. Don't know the details. Then there are Ethyr skills which are special skills you can buy, craft with a recipe or get as rewards for quests, and to use them you equip them like an item.
That reminds me of an important part of the game: To upgrade a skill you use Spirit, which you gain by killing enemies and getting as a reward for a certain quest. It's an interesting system that differs from most games where you get skill points by leveling your character.

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

PvP works in the way that once you reach a certain lvl (40 iirc), you can kill, and be killed by other players when not in safe zones. Killing others gives you infamy points which I dunno what do.

Probably true about the time. Ping is not a problem. I live in denmark and the ping is always around 125ms which i think is pretty decent. No lagging. Also haven't had any problems because I'm from Europe.

About endgame, well... I'm lvl 48. One player so far has reached lvl 100 (not the limit). I don't think there are any big changes as you get higher up, as with most games.

let's see... skills. There are quite a lot. Something about the birthday you choose for your character also affects what skills you get. Don't know the details. Then there are Ethyr skills which are special skills you can buy, craft with a recipe or get as rewards for quests, and to use them you equip them like an item.
That reminds me of an important part of the game: To upgrade a skill you use Spirit, which you gain by killing enemies and getting as a reward for a certain quest. It's an interesting system that differs from most games where you get skill points by leveling your character.

>>3178665
Why the hell don't you have a mouse?

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

>>3178234 was btw an answer to >>3178714

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

>>3178714 was btw an answer to >>3178234

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178714
Laptop. Don't wanna get a mouse just for one game. If they ever set it up so that you can use the arrow keys to adjust the camera, I'll gladly start playing again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178746
Mouses are like 5 dollars though. Well, I bought one for my laptop at least, hate those fucking touchpads.

>>3178696
Not yet, apparently in like 2-4 weeks if I were to go by rumors, but I don't don't know how many weeks since that was first posted.

Also: I have nothing better to do, so I think I'll check out this Ether Saga game (seeing as Cirno Racing and Mystical Chain are being hoarded by the Japs.)

Downloading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178797
I know. It's more an issue of hassle than anything else.

[mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k No.]

I played Trickster for about 4 hours today and about the same yesterday to get poppuri boxes for the new poppuri event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178818
Another Poppuri event? Jesus christ that must be the third one this year.

So glad I quit ages ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178530
WHAT?! Seriously? Jesus Christ, it's about time.

[Anonymous No.]

Dragonica
Pangya
MLB Dugout Heroes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178863
Gamescom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177836
Shit game. Quit it in open beta when I realized cave is just being stupid and slow on update.


>>3177358
Valkryie sky is good, can't wait for it to start again. One of the few game where skill>lvl+items.

>>3178818
There is still people playing this game? I remember playing it way back in beta in 2006 then quit it due to no content after the snow map came in and item mall imba.

>>3177765
I ran around with a lvl80 mage Beato. Cirno and Lambdadelta were my alt and no one even commented on them before. I guess there is no high level /jp/ otaku playing WoW. Quit it after downing yogg and notice that it is just the same shit over and over again.

Seriously, is there any good games left to play? Seem like nowadays the only game that can catch my interest is VN and eroge. Where is my starcraft2?!

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

One last thing. People wanting to be a member of our Ether Saga clan should also try contacting hjones since he's the leader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3178994
I don't want to play that shitty game, but tell him I said hi.

[Anonymous No.]

Guild Wars pure PVP

skill>time+equip

[Anonymous No.]

I still play mabinogi from time to time. Nothing else is really worth it. When a game comes out that can have modern day graphics but still be in that generic anime style without visible angles on your body or weird shiny skin, then I'll look at it.

Even then I don't have tolerance for mmos where its just you and the enemy whacking each other and missing for seconds on end. I tolerated Luna because things died in one hit, but I can't play that kind of game anymore unless it's like RO where you can lure like 20 things on the same spot and kill them at once and pick up items that are dropped on the ground without any babysitting bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179050
I hate to use this analogy, but that's like winning the special olympics.

MMOs? Skill? Don't make me laugh. It's inexcusable to claim MMOs take skill unless you're an elementary school kid.

You want skill? Play an RTS. Or an FPS.

Or touhou.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>3179077

FPS? No skill in killing people with one or two shots. RTS? Sure is build orders around here. 2D Fighters? Meaningless if it has nonsense air dashing and dial in/chain combos.

STGs? Yeah, those are good. The one ones from Psikyo or CAVE especially. Touhou, not so much.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm really freaking tired of those tank/spank/heal generic MMORPGs. It would be nice to see something other than the usual Tank/Melee/Ranged DPS/Healer set up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179135
I would love it if someone would make a game similar to how Ultima Online used to be, instead of yet another updated EQ clone.

That's mainly why i like Mabinogi. It's closer to being a sandbox MMO like UO was, rather than another linear, leveling MMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179135
>>3179180
You should try FFXIV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179180
what about fallout online

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179198
What Fallout Online.

The only game like that is Mortal Online, and that's not Fallout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179135
They need to scrap leveling sytem out of MMO and make death permanent.

Make it all about skill and make death permanent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179188
>FFXIV
Speaking of which, one of the classes is thaumaturge, so does this mean, I too can be the bone of my sword?

[mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k No.]

>>3178833
Personally though I'm glad that they really fixed poppuri events this time around. Rather than the fiasco of the second one where people made 200 characters and abused the system you must be level 30 or above with 100 poppuri boxes in your inventory to gain prizes. These ones look cute as always so I'm doing it for the 3rd time. Should make the deadline barely in time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179180

I don't mind linear as long as it's something that actually tries to stand out from the Tolkien crowd.

Make a game without humans and elves for once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179206
Online roguelike?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179232
No. Online REAL Conan + Oblivion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179228
Had Auto Assault not failed, we probably would see a lot more variations in MMO's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179232
I dont know how they can make it work.
But it will make PVP much better and start huge faction war by making death permanent.

Without leveling system, the only thing that can set you back is the item. They can make it that only 1% of the game population has the rare item and it will probably make everyone want to gank him and loot it off him.

[Anonymous No.]

Eve Online would be the most awesome game to play with /jp/ too bad it isn't moe enough ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

I play AION

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179228
eve online
space cowboy
all points bulletin

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179272
>They can make it that only 1% of the game population has the rare item
that idea is dumb and you should feel dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179277
what if instead of space ships it was little girls with silly hats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179303
>space cowboy

I liked it better when it was called this. Now it's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179334
I will download it and play it instantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179277
>>3179334

Name your ships after loli's. Enjoy hilarious battle reports.

[Anonymous No.]

I still want a western mmo where you can rob banks and have shootouts and pan for gold and make a farm

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179135
I hate the tanking/healing/damagedealing format as well. It gets to the point where overspecialization makes every class so worthless in other areas that you just can't play unless you group up.
It's an unavoidable part of the MMO gimmick. If you can't play without other people, they'll try to force you to get others to join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179352
>Mod your ships after loli
You can't mod Eve's graphics or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179353
That be CrimeCraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179366
The only alternative would be everyone soloing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179366
The whole point of mmorpg is to play with other other people. If you want to play alone, isn't better to just to just play singe player.

I guess this is what happen when the RPG games party always consist of melee, mage, healer and a thief.
Game designer just can go away from this formula.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179416
cant* i mean.

[Anonymous No.]

MMOs with permanent death? You assume people want to be PUNISHED for playing games? Nobody would want that.

[Anonymous No.]

GLOBAL AGENDA beta

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179462
Diablo 2 got permanent death.
People still play it to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179473
Too bad you weren't accepted. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179366
>>3179135
RPGs are about distinct classes. They are not about soloing and they are not about free classes that all lead to the same build for everyone.

>>3179232
I wouldn't mind an online roguelike game though, where your equipment and thinking was more important. Giving certain users special items is dumb and the items themselves are dumb. They are only excuses to wave your dick around or get ganked. Else they're given to everyone and lowers their worth. Just make a bunch of useful items and if someone has a special one, it's because they got it to +10 +10 when it has like a growing chance of failing after +5 or something, and somehow got the vorpal enchant on it.

It'd be better if it was instanced based and you'd always return to level one after leaving a dungeon, and you'd just lose all the items and gold you gained in the dungeon if you died in a dungeon, without destroying your character. Pvp and gathering would take place in the outside areas.

There would be events with group dungeons, no rules, so you could be waiting one floor above the boss, killing everyone that came down there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179405
why not make it so it's possible to solo or play in a group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179514
see
>>3179416
MMOs are multiplayer games. It's like wanting to play online FPSes, e.g. TF2, solo. It is not the way the game is intended to be played. Go play a single player rpg if all you want to do is grind in peace. A MMO world is for interacting with others, like it or not.

Go be a hikki somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179477
D2 is not an MMO though it's structure is a lot different. You could rush people through the game and reach 99 in about a week. MMOs are built on the grind in order to keep people paying, otherwise you'll never earn money, once people reach level/item cap they have little incentive to play. Convince people to grind for 3 months to whatever high level they achieve only to die and restart. Ain't happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179492
>games are only allowed to be a certain way. deviation is not allowed.
people like you are why mmos haven't progressed at all since everquest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179514
because then every faggot will be soloing or botting

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179544

That is why I propose to just scrap away the leveling system entirely.

Make it skill instead of pressing f1 and grinding on boars and shit all the time to be better than other people.

They should reward people for skill and not for time spent in game.

[NewFriend !zkraGArAss No.]

>>3178530
Eh, I think I might check it out for old time's sake, but if I can't jump SO FUCKING HELP ME GOD.

I might try Aion as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179367
>You can't mod Eve's graphics or something?

One does not simply MOD Eve's GRAPHICS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179558
>everyone must be able to solo and do and have everything everyone else can

People like you are why there hasn't been a decent mmo since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179560
what about people that WANT to play with friends? it's not like people would stop talking to each other if the game didn't force them to group. why not give players the freedom to choose how they want to play?

[Anonymous No.]

I still play Mabinogi fairly regularly.

"Engell" on the Mari server. Friends would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179544
>Convince people to grind for 3 months to whatever high level they achieve only to die and restart.

Mabinogi in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179579
are you suggesting that old mmos were decent? mmos have been shit from the beginning. the translation from rpg to mmorpg was flawed and rpgs were flawed to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179607
I'll have to disagree with this.

Ultima Online pre-AoS was the best MMO to date.

I've never had as much fun as I did camping IDOC's, pirating, and running around on my town thief. Not even close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179562
With a business plan like that you'll end up in the slumps a week after your game is released. No, it's not that your ideology is bad, it's human nature who is your worst enemy.

Few people enjoy challenges, everybody wants new content, they want extra rare items with GODHAX stats, they want to be the unique snowflake, they want to boast their massive e-cock but they're not devoted enough to focus on a challenge.

The arguments are something like this:
"WAAAA CONTENT IS TOO HARD I CAN'T COMPETE/WORK WITH OTHERS、 SHIT SUX QQQQQQ I QUIT"

"LAWL CONTENT IS TOO EASY, SHIT'S BORING, NO REAL REASON TO PLAY"

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179562
You can't. Not online.

Fighting skill is related to the amount of lag you experience

Item equipping skill is related to your luck in getting them

Item using skill is related to money for buying them which is related to grinding

Build skill is related to a universal system and would ultimately lead to sameness

It would have to be turn based or something to allow for true fairness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179590

Agreed, although I still quite like Mabinogi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179629

Because the current MMORPG combat system is flawed. It is always about dps and hps. It doesn't leave room for variation.

Now compare it with other game like shmup, racing, fightan, fps, rts and even dota. Those game need skill and test your reaction time and thinking ability.

There must be some way to translate those system into a playable mmo somehow.

[NewFriend !zkraGArAss No.]

>>3179607
I actually liked playing EverQuest when it first came out. It was fun because nobody really knew what the fuck to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179627
>unique snowflake

This is what MMOs need to get rid of first. They ALL, EVERY ONE, treat your character like you're the one and only hero in a single player RPG going through the world. NPCs act like other players don't even exist. It is what leads to that idea in the first place.

There really needs to be more of a focus and community related things rather than measured grind and "UR R #1 HERO, PC!"

MMOs keep people though grinding but they also keep people through socializing. If they could make a truly social game with RPG qualities, they wouldn't need leveling and all that. You'd just go grind resources to make stuff and talk to friends.

It's a shame that Second Life is the only real MMORPG as it is the only one that actually is both MMO and has true roleplaying and no grind.

If only there could be a better looking, furfagless, more console rpg-like version of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179660

There are games like that. Dragonica for instance is quite interesting. But people don't want to play these. They're happy with their CLICKAN mmorpgs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179688
Dragonica is flawed as well.

I am waiting for Valkryie Sky. I like what I have seen so far when I play the close beta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179492
You can make different classes with different strengths and weaknesses without screwing over all of them in the process.

Take WoW for example. Dear lord I hated that game. A level 70 Warrior could kill Arlokk while a level 80 Mage or Priest didn't stand a chance in hell. Death Knights can solo Karazhan while, again, a Mage or Priest probably wouldn't be able to *reach the first boss*, much less kill it.
That is because they overspecialized tanks to the point where other classes take 30 times more damage. I noticed that when my clothy was one-shotted for four times my max Health by a trash mob.
I'm not saying you should be able to play all of MMOs solo, but they usually have zero challenging solo content. Using WoW as an example again, they had an epic Hunter quest that was mildly challenging, but dropped the concept quickly and now every single thing (beyond the short leveling process) requires groups.

Depending on finding 39 non-retarded people to play with got old, fast.

They could have made, say, "solo instances" or "class instances" so we could pass the time between raids, but they thought people would stop trying to get their friends to play. Instead people are bored out of their minds and quitting anyway. Hah!

[Anonymous No.]

I am really bored lately and would like to play a free MMO, which one would you people recommend me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179724
meltan, th123, tenhou or maybe cirno racing.

Pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.]

You know what I want? Good old fashioned co-op games like Contra and Sword of Mana that you can play online.

Everything now is either a damn mmorpg or competitive gameplay. It's so lame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179709
Shit head doesn't what the gay fuck he is talking about. 40 people lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179660
No because lag. The other games work on small scale with a limited number of players, not with thousands. And not with people of various ping rates.

>It is always about dps and hps.
This doesn't matter. And all the other games you mentioned have hp.

>shmup
stop using this word.
>shooters
This isn't really workable on a large scale, though it could be skill based. Imagine playing touhou or castle shikigami or some other game with 2 second input lag

>racing
Lag into walls. Also can you imagine a race with like 1000 other people? That would only work in some sort of space race.

>fightan
MMO fighting, really? It could work only in large scale battles, but that needs a large userbase who like working together.


>fps
Lag will either get you killed or make you invincible.

>rts
The only workable thing but would still depend on computer controlled units, which would either kill the servers or be dependent on your computer's ability to send commands.

>dota.
bad, feel bad, etc.

>test your reaction time
3 second input lag.

>There must be some way to translate those system into a playable mmo somehow.
no. in Japan maybe. Not out of it. Internet isn't good enough yet.


3rd person shooters like space cowboy or eve or pso are workable, and large scale pvp is workable. small scale combat is pretty much better left to games based on small scale conflict.

You could probably make workable systems out of all of them, but you would endure legions of butthurt from those who couldn't play it right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179709
the problem is that classes are purposely designed to be ineffective by themselves. grouping isn't an advantage, it's required by design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179762
WoW battleground at the moment is only usually 10vs10.
Raiding in WoW is now 5man, 10man or 25man. They phase out the 40man raid.

I dont see how there will be lag issue with 20-40people at the same instance.

[Anonymous No.]

All right guys, I'm going to ask for a bit of assistance. You see, I'm a dumbass.

Anyway my friend was playing an MMO back around February before the winter semester ended. It was something he claimed was Japanese though I have my doubts. It was something like, megami something or tenshi something. I don't recall. It was a 3d rendered game where you catch demon and angel pets and use them to fight and catch more pets while you fight. He had some bondagy looking angel chick that hated him because he'd just gotten her.

Ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179816
Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine.

Despite being Megaten-flavored, it really isn't anything special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179816
smt online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179816
is your friend a fatlus? it sounds like the smt mmo

[Anonymous No.]

http://hotglue.co.cc/online/ they play the online vidya

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179832
>>3179834
>>3179838

Yeah that's it. Not too good though eh? I'll give it a pass, let him convince me when I see him again come fall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179793
Instances are not mmos and are, in fact, cancerous, hikky supporting segregation of the game's community. You will fight in a dungeon with 500 other people, half of them kill stealing, the other half taking your drops, and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179878
Good for one week. You can finish all the quest in that time and probably see what the whole game has to offer in that time. After that it become a grindfest and it is just better to quit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3177325
You probably should ask somewhere else.
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[Anonymous No.]

I already have the perfect MMO model. Players choose between honorable hard working proletariat classes like farmer, factory worker, and bricklayer. They take back the means of production from the bourgeoisie and then collaborate to meet their work deadlines and help build Communism. All loot is given by the state for completing deadlines and displaying loyalty.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179688
Dragonica is fun, it slows down at 15-20, but the class change is fun. but 24-30 is the worst grind ever. I can only Hookah so many times before it gets old. THis is with a pathfinder who exploits combos to get the 1.5 multiplier every chance I could get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179996
How do I party official?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179257
I played it and had a lot of fun, then it was canceled right around the time I reached the endgame area, so I never experienced the shittiness there. I'm still waiting on Netdevil to finish Jumpgate Evolution (getting tired of waiting is largely why I started playing WoW, I was counting on JGE to be my next game). Everyone assumes the delay is because they must be putting a lot more resources into their work on the LEGO MMO (speaking of which, could this end up being the sandbox game that people want?)

>>3179206
ha, you're reminding me of Dawn now... what a joke that was; never made it out of the conceptual stage, and the guy behind it instead just ended up making easy money off of retards with a clickfest browser game

[Anonymous No.]

>>3180219
Endgame wasn't too terrible in Auto Assault until Battle Master and that Other set of gear debuted.
It essentially made all other gear obsolete and unless you had friends, you had no chance in getting the gear creating a massive disparity in players.

[Lambda !DELTATiWVA No.]

>>3179492
Strangely reminds me of what The World is supposed to be like (disregarding the fact that its portrayal in the .hack games is nothing like it)

[Anonymous No.]

I play Atlantica Online currently on Mycenae server. Well, this one is a bit addicting. And I played a majority of free-to-play games. I didn't found most of them interesting.
Maybe that's because of Atlantica's JRPG-like battles? Don't know.

[NewFriend !zkraGArAss No.]

>>3179793
>I dont see how there will be lag issue with 20-40people at the same instance.
When Wrath first came out and everyone was doing Naxx there was lag because the servers were shit and couldn't handle instances being made, made everyone lag to a point where raiding was impossible.
Wintergrasp cause world lag in Northrend because Blizzard still used the same shit servers.

Do you know their solution? They nerfed the benefits one gains from Wintergrasp to a point where one didn't really need to step into the zone more then once a week.

Before the game used to have 60-80 players on each side fighting each other, before I left, there weren't more then 25 players on each side (20 of em would be Death Knights anyway, the other 5 would be Paladins). The only incentive to play was the dungeon one could only visit by having control over the zone. And that dungeon in and of itself was nothing more then a loot pinata.

Don't get me started on why wow lags so much now compared to Vanilla, and no, it's not because of shiny new textures.

[Aya Shameful !I4IrJba9Qw No.]

>>3177325
>>MMORPG
same shit different name.

[Anonymous No.]

Currently playing Dragonica with a 37 Assassin. Thanks for BMs in the guild, we fail at missions and grind. And it's been all grind since I hit the 30's, though it's still damn fun and chibis are cool.

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

Has anybody started on Ether Saga yet? Seemed like a few wanted to, but I haven't been contacted by anyone yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3179277
>t f w no warosu corp