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Why oh why is this game so beautiful?

I've yet to find a VN, no, a story with as much raw emotion, beauty, and horror as Saya no Uta. The characters just felt so real, and the situation surreal and morally ambiguous. It just felt nothing like another run of the mill eroge. To me, this game is so much more.

>> No.3173918
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Yeah Saya is awesome.

Love the soundtrack too. It makes it even better.

>> No.3173940

This is one of those games you want to brag about and tell you friends to play, but then you realize its still an H-game and you'd look like a loser.

>> No.3173957

They should make it into a movie.

>> No.3173985
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or give it a second VN...

>> No.3173987
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>>3173957
If the themes were kept intact, nothing was changed, and the original music was used, a Saya movie would be pretty awesome.

>> No.3173994

>>3173985
How could you make a sequel?

Make it prequel about Dr.Ougai teaching Saya and his connection with Ryoko?

>> No.3174014
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>>3173994
That would be interesting, seeing the events leading up to Ougai's suicide, and what screwed up Tanbou so badly.

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>> No.3174065
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>>3173994
They should take the "real ending" and show how the world slowly fall into control of Saya's children....

>> No.3174073

>>3173994
You're human-turned-blob Takashi, a new transfer student in a human-turned-blob highschool.

>> No.3174080
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>>3174065
That'd be cheesy and lame. The ending was bittersweet for a reason, if you went any further it'd get into lame territory like the politics of Shoggoths and such.

>> No.3174086

>>3173994
If they're going to go about making Saya movie, it should be this or the shotgun ending.

>> No.3174107

>>3174065

Any attempt at it would fail pretty bad.

The specifics of what happens after Saya blooms is supposed to be left unknown.

>> No.3174108

>>3174086
I'm torn between the two endings. The whole scene with Ryoko and her past with the shotgun added so much character to Kouji, as well as his defeat of Saya and Fuminori in the end.

But with the themes of the story in general, the ending where Saya blooms is the best and most fitting ending.

If only there were a way to combine them both without ruining it.

>> No.3174113

sure is newfag in here

>> No.3174118
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3174118

If Chaos;Head got an anime.....Saya deserves one too, I liked more Saya than C;H and im sure more people does too

>> No.3174124

>>3174113
Because talking about an older amazing game is not allowed.

>> No.3174123

The scenes from Fuminori's point of view made me more hungry then anything.

>> No.3174119

>>3174108
Saya could always bloom as she's dying, after Tanbou shoots her with the shotgun. Then Fuminori would kill himself and Kouji would kill Saya, then Kouji would go insane in a world of blob people in the end.

>> No.3174128

>>3174086

A Saya movie would either have the bloom or the shotgun ending when done in theaters (maybe give different theaters different versions).

The DVD version has all three endings and you choose which path to watch at the start up screen.

>> No.3174135

>>3174119

No, that'd be silly.

>> No.3174142

I just finished saya no uta and have to admit that I'm kinda disappointed. All 3 endings seemed kinda short(well the first one was kinda "BAD END" thing so I don't mind it) overall not completely wrapped up. The final ending (kouji and doc vs. fuminori and saya battlan) even missed the fuminori PoV and he/even the player never really see what saya really is.

overall rating: 6/10.

>> No.3174146

>>3174107
In that ending you get to see some parts of the world full of the red-slime

>> No.3174149

Funny, I just logged on /jp/ after finished Saya for the first time, was actually surprisingly good (or I'm just tired of all the moemoe and high school shit and needed a change of pace, who knows)

I couldn't see it getting another visual novel covering before or after the story, but a short manga series or a reasonably long oneshot could probably cover one or both. Either that, or a re-release with more content, but this came out in what, 2003? I don't think we'll see anything else, not that it particularly needs it, everything was covered quite well.

>> No.3174165

I wouldn't mind a movie with the Kouji ending.

>> No.3174183

>>3174142
You didn't need the Fuminori POV, because while Kouji would be a monster to him, he knew it was Kouji he was fighting, so it was pointless. By that point in time, Kouji was more or less the new protagonist anyway.

You weren't supposed to see Saya's true form.

>> No.3174185

Well, Nitro+ is interested in making comic and movie when Saya is eventually released in English.
>>3174128
>you choose which path to watch at the start up screen.
Rather have them in extra menu or something. But yeah, that'd work.

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>>3174146
The slime I was talking about

>> No.3174205

>>3174185
It'd make me sad if they ruined a Saya movie. I'd opt to script one myself and just condense the material in the game rather than see a bastardized Hollywood movie of it.

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I don't know. It sort of overused gore simply to shock, which I felt cheapened the game a bit. Just not my type of horror I guess; I prefer things to be more subtle. For a VN I guess the horror aspects of Moon. would fit. I wish there was more to that game though.

Saya does have awesome art. And the music is all right for the most part; the main songs I like are Schizophrenia and the main theme. I don't listen to that OST very often though.

>> No.3174221

>>3174205
I'd be happy for any kind of Saya movie. Since if it was even decent, people would get interested in source material and possibly buy the VN.

>> No.3174227

>>3173940
In other words, it's the Elfen Lied of VNs.

>> No.3174233

>>3174185
But what ending should be the "standard" for the movie

>> No.3174241

>>3174183

If a movie were made, though, it'd need to be from Fuminori's POV. At least for the part where Saya attacks Kouji.

>> No.3174249

>>3174233
The Kouji ending feels more like a Hollywood finisher to me.

>>3174227
Wrongo.

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>>3174241
Seeing Kouji's neck get crushed by Saya's tendrils as Fuminori cheers to the side with an evil smirk would work for it.

>> No.3174292
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3174292

People who haven't read Nasu.

>> No.3174284

>>3174227

Yes and no. It does overuse gore as a weak excuse for horror like Elfen Lied.

EL is total, worthless tripe though. Saya is not; it's actually worth through the time you spend on it.

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>>3173957
>>3173987
>>3174086
>>3174128
>>3174165
>>3174185
>>3174205
>>3174221
>>3174233
>>3174241
Here's your Saya movie, now shut the hell up.

>> No.3174296
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3174296

Would they keep the loli Saya or just show her true form?

or just leave that to the imagination of the spectator

>> No.3174301

>>3174284
I never really thought Saya overused Gore, but kind of made gore less a "shocker" and more just commonplace in the parameters of the story.

>> No.3174308

>>3174292
Nasu sucks. Saya no Uta does more in around 2 hours than Tsukihime could do in 40+. Don't even go there.

>> No.3174310

>>3174249
>The Kouji ending feels more like a Hollywood finisher to me.

Nah. It's too depressing.

>> No.3174312

A Saya movie would be fucking terrible.

>> No.3174315
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>>3174294

>> No.3174317

>>3174296
The whole point is that you're left to your imagination about her true form.

>> No.3174326

>>3174296

A Saya movie would only work if Saya's true form is left unrevealed. The most we can be allowed to see is a few shadowing tentacles.

Though, depending on who is making the movie, we might be able to expect Saya's girl form to be portrayed as being older than in the VN.

>> No.3174344

This thread:
>LOVECRAFT WITH PORN IS DEEP

>> No.3174339

>>3174294
Surprisingly accurate.

>> No.3174352

>>3174317
I just wanted to know how big she was...I could imagine her true form by looking to what she did to Kouji gf

>> No.3174357

>>3174344
>>3174292
>>3174227
Nice try, butthurt Nasufag.

>> No.3174353

>>3174344
>>3174344
>>3174344
>>3174344
>>3174344
>>3174344
>>3174344

>> No.3174365

>>3174352
The closest thing to her true form in the game would be Yoh, who she turned into a similar creature to herself.

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>>3174353
>>3174344
Trolls don't even try anymore.

>> No.3174380

>>3174326
Quentin Terentino.

>> No.3174381
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>>3174292
>People who haven't read Nasu.
And for a good reason too.

>> No.3174384

>>3174294

Eh, it's similar, I suppose.

Except that Saya is an amoral monster, and Fuminori forsakes his own humanity for their love.

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>>3174365
this

>> No.3174399
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>>3174380
Now I'm picturing a Saya movie done in the style of Sin City, where only Saya is colored in, along with the bloody world of Fuminori's vision and the colorful paint all over his walls.

Shits so cash.

>> No.3174404

>>3174310
All of the endings are depressing. In the Kouji end the "good guy" wins and Kouji is already a generic B-movie hero so it would be the most Hollywood friendly.

>> No.3174410

I can't imagine a Saya no Uta movie, it would probably be horribly done in a teen-horror style movie, and Saya would be some creepy little girl.

>> No.3174418

>>3174404
I liked Kouji, he had a strange kind of air around him. Just kind of chill, he had a fiance, a med student, and someone who cared a lot about his friends, but was cunning enough to get down to business. He was a good character.

>> No.3174416

This game is pretentious bullshit.
You know the "OMG, GORE" factor is the only reason you like it, because if you take that away, it's just a cheesy, generic love story with an Evangelion ending.

>> No.3174428

>>3174416
the truth hurts

>> No.3174431

>>3174416
>This movie "Scarface" is pretentious bullshit.
>You know the "OMG, MOBSTERS" factor is the only reason you like it, because if you take that away, it's just a cheesy, generic revenge story with an Evangelion ending.

You can do that to anything, it doesn't make you right.

>> No.3174437

>>3174428
>>3174416
>>3174353
>>3174344
The samefag is strong in this one.

>> No.3174439

>>3174404

Being driven to insanity and keeping a gun with the express point of being able to use it for suicide is a bit dark for Hollywood.

The bloom ending on the other hand is very sweet and heartwarming, especially if the build up viewer empathy for Saya - which shouldn't be hard.

>> No.3174442

>>3174431
>"OMG, MOBSTERS" factor
There is no such thing.

>> No.3174451

>>3174404
Yeah, killing his best friend, losing everyone, turning insane and probably going to kill himself sometime soon is surely winning and Hollywood friendly. The protagonists winning with the power of love is a lot more Hollywood friendly.

>> No.3174454

>>3174437
>>HURRR, MY TASTES ARE PERFECT, SURELY THERE CAN'T BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON OUT THERE THAT DISAGREES WITH THEM.

>> No.3174455

>>3174439
I guess its just my personal fanboying to wish we could have a Bloom Ending where Kouji and Ryoko still get developed and get to do stuff, then.

>> No.3174471

>>3174437
i'm one of those four people, so no

>> No.3174468

>>3174399

That'd be pretty neat

>> No.3174467

>>3174442
>>3174454
Looks like I called that samefaginess right on the number. What would you rather us talk about, more Touhou? Just hide the thread if you don't like it, don't act like a whiny baby.

>> No.3174478

>>3174399
Fund it!

>> No.3174486

anyone have a link to a translated version?

>> No.3174490

>>3174416
I would've liked it more without the gore, so jokes on you MORAN.

>> No.3174491

>>3174486
Google?

>> No.3174494

>>3174486
http://gilheney.com/VNs/index.php?bot=[jp]VNs-English

>> No.3174496

Saya no Uta is an slightly better than average vn, Nitro+ has better vns.

>> No.3174500
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>>3174486
Its actually not that hard to find. Just Google it up. Hongfire is pretty reliable for it.

>> No.3174502

>>3174496
a slightly

>> No.3174506

Trolls aside, it feels nice to have a Saya thread.

I'd almost actually be interested in a movie because of this.

>> No.3174509

>>3174486
>>>/rs/saya

>> No.3174511

I like Saya too, but it is better left undiscussed, as the more threads you make, and the more overrated statements you say about it (OMG, MASTER PIECE), the more people will hate it, and sadly, I think this kind of threads will become more common once the game is officially released in english.

>> No.3174519

>>3174511
Saya is a little more niche than stuff like Touhou or Higurashi, I don't think you'll have to worry about it too much.

I do plan to buy a copy though.

>> No.3174529

My favorite part of this game was the artwork and music.

>> No.3174534

>>3174416

I contest the notion that it's just a cheesy love story.

Yes, there is cheesy love in there, but it also deals with how our perception affects reality and addresses the issue of just how far a person can/should go for love.

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>>3174500

>> No.3174544

>>3174496
>Saya no Uta is an slightly better than average vn
The average VN is a sex romp set in generic high school #41832 with shitty character development and no real overarching story. Maybe you could get away with saying slightly better than the average VN that focuses on the story, but you don't understand the shit you would get if you picked a random eroge.
Though I would still disagree, as SnU was excellent, especially for its length.

>> No.3174549

>>3174511

Because when something becomes popular it sucks?

>> No.3174563

>>3174549
That's how it is on /jp/ atleast.

>> No.3174564

>>3174549
You seem to be new to this

>> No.3174572

>>3174416
You can label any love story as cheesy and generic, but that doesn't make it correct. This actually had a rather well-done plot.

>> No.3174632

>>3174511
We already had a ton of Saya threads when it was first translated.

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3174641

Good thread, even with the trolls.

>> No.3174656

Phantom of Inferno is better.

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