/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/, have you ever thought about joining the Army just to escape your miserable life, earn some money, man up and maybe find a girl you can love?

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

Why would I want to join the army when I can just kill myself instead?

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

Nah.

[Anonymous No.]

I've considered suicide a few times, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the hell would I join the army?

[Anonymous No.]

No because my life isn't miserable. And even if it was I'd still prefer living a miserable life to dying a miserable death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154845
>>3154848
why would you want to kill yourself.

[Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>3154854
>just to escape your miserable life

[Anonymous No.]

My country has a horrible army, you don't join it to escape your miserable life, you join it to be beaten up and get handicapped for life if you are especially unlucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154838
>Implying anyone on /jp/ is in good enough shape to even be allowed to go to bootcamp.

[Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx No.]

I've thought about it, though I don't think I'd meet the physical fitness requirements, nor do I know what area I'd go in.

[Anonymous No.]

No way in hell

We all know that we'd die in boot camp. literally

[GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 No.]

JobCorps, motherfuckers. It's essentially the same thing as the military (free food, money, housing) except you walk out with job skills you can actually use. And you don't have to be shot at or get brainwashed! I've heard that some of the lodgings are downright shitty, but it isn't too hard to get yourself moved to whichever part of the country you want. Still beats sleeping on the ground in the middle of the desert.

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

Let's all join the Army in the same week, stage a coup, steal a battleship and sale to an island where we will leave in a NEET Utopia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154885

We would all die of starvation but I'm up for it

[Anonymous No.]

I enjoy being free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154858
Even if life is mierable, killing yourself is a sin. Even when everything is shit, as long as you are not dead, things can change and you can improve your life bit for bit.

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>3154854
I love suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154886
I did not know about this. I signed up for the Department of Rehabilitation's services instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>join the army
>steal a battleship

[Anonymous No.]

When the apocalyptic future comes and /jp/ is the only draftable force left, it will be utilized as a disposable shock unit due to it's apathy towards life, including it's own.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3154944
Dear god, that fool is incapable of spelling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154949
We will dress up as Touhous, have our dolls and pillows. We shall scare them shitless

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154907
>a sin
What are you, a religionfag?

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>3154944
Do you have a problem with my flawless idea?

>>3154952
One handed typing, sugoi sugoi. Also I deleted it for a reason!

[Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx No.]

>>3154974
What does one handed typing have to do with
>>Where we will leave in a NEET Utopia.

[Anonymous No.]

No. Volunteer soldiers are scum: no exceptions. They make a living in death and destabilize our security through overseas ventures that only stretch our nation's reach further and thinner. We need return to pre-Roosevelt mobilization patterns, and anybody who signs up for the armed forces is perpetuating an inefficient and immoral Cold War mentality that saps our nation of its wealth and our global neighbors of their sovereignty and livelihood.

My taxes are paying for your rape vacation. Assholes.

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>3154990
Right clicking and choosing wrong definitions.

Fine I will sit up properly and type to impress you and your dumb secure trip code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154971
Killing yourself is a sin my friend. You have to treat the life that you were given with care.

[Anonymous of Philadelphia !!CF3BKIiUIDY No.]

>>3155013
lol no

[Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx No.]

>>3155011
Are you alright man?

[GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 No.]

>rape vacation

Thanks, I just learned a new insult for army tards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155013
It's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155013

Everyone on this board is completely wasting their life, so I guess were all going to hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155077

Not to mention the assload of eroge and hentai we've all seen

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155013
I already have gluttony, pride, sloth, greed and lust on me, another sin couldn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.]

I did join the army, the infantry in fact, back in 2003. Did four years, certainly manned up, certainly earned some money. But I say to you, sir, do NOT join the army and find a female.

That shit is the WORST possible answer. You'll be made a bitch of while she spends your money and fucks some random dude while you're in the field or deployed. Saw it dozens of times. Every new group of privates had two or three that went down this road.

[Anonymous No.]

Killing yourself can be especially considerate. Moreover, it says something about you as a person: that you are unwilling to submit to chance's whim or the waves of fate, that you are strong enough to fly in the face of all fears and base urges and exit this plane by your willpower alone. I don't know when, but I hope that I will one day be courageous enough to bring about such a finale.

[Anonymous No.]

Lets be honest /jp/
90% would not even make it through training

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>3155093
I don't know, I always thought it was a relatively weak thing to do. I'd still like to, but never thinking that I'm doing something courageous.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you. I will become a priest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155010
Also, hurr.

I wouldn't mind conscription, though, by all means I would love to see the current generation crammed into the military.

But that isn't the goal of the powers that be. The goal is emasculation. The reduction of everything that makes men men. But saying these sorts of things in here is like pissing into the wind. The internet is full of people who understand the world perfectly and have every grasp on the interrelation of international power, as well as the mentality and mindset of any individual who dares enlist in the volunteer military.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155117

We'd get tired just running from the bunker over to the drill instructor to line up

[Anonymous No.]

Incidentally though, all of you saying suicide would be the better choice... it might be easier, but if you have any particular family member you like, at least if you die in military service it's $400,000 in life insurance, if, by some ungodly contract you've managed a spouse, she gets your paycheck for the rest of her life.

If your life is terrible, brighten someone elses with government money!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155124
500 years ago, or maybe even 200 years ago in Europe, we all would have been priests. That was what weak well-to-do males did back then. Instead of manga and eroge we had artefacts and manuscripts. We would hang around talking about the newest tapestries and telling people to fuck off with their Latin translation requests. Scyte would have been so cash.

[Anonymous No.]

USAF anon here. You'd be surprised how much more time I have to browse and play now than before. Plus money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155155
If a woman dies in service, her husband will receive the paychecks as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155155

While government money is either taxpayer's money, debt or shiny new papers from the printing machine (Since government doesn't create wealth unless a politician happens to be a businessman as well), I support of this.

Let the other citizens of your country pay your bills

[Anonymous No.]

Joining the military can have its perks. They get insanely good funding.
I'm not in shape enough to pass even basic training though, and I'm too bullheaded to go with the brainwashing, minor though it may be.
There's bound to be other ways to make your life less miserable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155167
American taxpayer here: I hope you fall off a chair or choke on a donut. Jerk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155188

oh god, here comes the tax brigade. Their are so many things taxes are wasted on so don't bother bringing that normalfag shit into here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155155
Why I would want such a thing when one of my objectives is the complete destruction of my family and the only thing that I would leave to any significant other is eternal disgrace?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155185

What's this... brainwashing you're talking about? Something to do with desensibilize you so that it'll be easier for you to kill someone else "for the country"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155163
Illuminated manuscripts as doujins, heresiarchs as trolls and powerlevel discussions based on the Bible. Also, angels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155163
>and telling people to fuck off with their Latin translation requests.
Pleasure of being scummed by Satan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155155
Marry an ugly girl, get her to join the army, send her to iraq, CASH MONEY when she bites the dust.

Sounds like a plan to me.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>3155188

I get money from Uncle Sam every month and I blow it all on anime figures.

[Anonymous No.]

I thught about it several times, but in the end I don't think it's the life style I want to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155214
Nobody I knew in the army gave two shits about killing for the country. Either they had a hardon for killing, or they were concerned about people who had become very close friends. That and most of all, I'd rather kill someone than die myself.

All that crazy shit your hear about is pretty much just that, shit that crazies talk about. Crazy people is crazy, whether they are nationalists or have some sort of killin' fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155125
>mindset of any individual who dares enlist in the volunteer military.
Am I overlooking something? Why did you choose to become a minion, then? Unless you enlisted pre-9/11, it suggests that you agree with American foreign policy, which by most counts is incredibly immoral and destructive to all parties involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155167
sup bro, i'm in the DEP for AF. What's your AFSC? I too wish to have time for browsan and gaymen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155093
Suicide is just a matter of the fear of death or the fear of pain. Don't try to make it sound glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>powerlevel discussions based on the Bible

Can we get a Bible powerlevel list in here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155239
Just wanted to get paid, sir. If you hire on with a corporation, does that mean you yourself bear responsibility for all of their actions and principles? Hell no, gotta make a living though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155202
>Their are so many things taxes are wasted on
I agree. So let's look at the elephant in the room: the armed forces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155233

Guess I'm a little bit outdated, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155244
God > Jesus > Moses > all the other assholes. Though I'm not sure if Jesus is stronger than Moses.

[Anonymous No.]

AF anon here.

2A533C, just finished tech school. (6 months, after BMT)

You'd be surprised how many people there are into all this stuff. Almost everyone spends their money on tech gear too. Also, I got away with taking to key chains in with me to BMT, Kagami and Tsukasa. Shit was so cash when they say them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155239
The world isn't cut up into convenient little idealogical packages. Shit's gray, unless you take off and hermit yourself in the mountains with even less human contact than you probably have now, you're just part of the amorphous blob of human activity.

Regardless, if you choose to continue to be a US Citizen, regardless of your personal circumstances, that must also mean that you are espousing US foreign policy. If you disagreed, and the actions of the federal government are a direct reflection on someone who chooses to be a part of the government, and you, in any way, participate in the system, you are also represented.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155271
New testament is shit. Remember when God was awesome?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155271
Moses is pretty high tier. He grew horns or somesuch and gored super huge angels or somesuch.
It was posted in one of the various "create a servant" threads a while back.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm already in the air force, aka easy modo version of the army.

I cannot believe people actually join the army, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155254

I've seen drills in california where marines in training were calling in air strike hits. Just thinking about the price of the missiles alone...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155248
>If you hire on with a corporation, does that mean you yourself bear responsibility for all of their actions and principles?
It depends on your position. I would say that an infantryman in the United States Armed Forces who is treading upon soil that should not be encroached upon and firing at people who should not be fired upon (read: basically anybody since 1864) is guilty of a laundry list of crimes, even if it was ordered by superiors. It's a bit different from being an office lackey in an industry that exploits third-worlders or something. It's more akin to being a factory manager at the Nike plant in Bumfuk, Southeast Asia. At the end of the day, you signed on to make a living doing the bidding of some of the world's most heinous murders. It's rather difficult to wash your hands from this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155284
I can't believe people think the Army is hard. You gotta seriously be lacking in every possible way for a tiny bit of hardship to bring you down.

Even when it sucks its absolute worse, it's nothing compared to say, Vietnam, Korea or the World Wars. Shit's a walk in the park compared to the men who went before us. I wish I could hold a candle to the bravery of guys who went and fought, even when drafted. That's what it means to be a man, accepting your responsibilities in life, whether or not you agree. If you want zero chance of being forced to fight, you really shouldn't be a citizen, since it's part and parcel of the deal in this country.


On that note, I'm perfectly fine with moving to the Starship Troopers type of government. (the book, not the movie) Military service required to be a citizen, only citizens can vote, if you're not a citizen, you're a civilian.

Seems like a good system to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155244
There is actually a canonical tier list of angels. I think Seraphim are at the top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155372

Where do that leaves arch angels?

>>3155333

Fair enough if both genders are in

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155330
I think your perception of reality and the actual reality are worlds apart. I'm afraid your concept of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan do not match the reality of either. Excepting specifically authorized missions to destroy suspected high value targets, the rules of engagement as so tight these days that you're better off not shooting at all, even when fired upon.

Lest you drown in a sea of paperwork.

Sorry, the painted picture of run and gun patrols through innocent villages is not the reality. I rarely fired my rifle, and as a mortarman only was called to fire on hostile forces four times, with rounds on target only once.

That's just how it is, day in and day out running around, getting shot at and blown up without knowing the enemy at all, essentially, you roam around and make a nuisance of yourself and try to catch someone doing something blatantly illegal. But don't shoot at them unless your life is in critical danger, and by critical danger, I mean you're already dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155333
I don't get it.
Voting requires knowledge and intelligence. Military training is completely unrelated.
Under such a system some well-informed and intelligent person might be denied the right to vote while some idiot who just did what he was told during his military training would have a say.
Doesn't sound like it'd work very well.

[Anonymous No.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155404
See? They really had powerlevel discussions and they even did it for so long that a consensus was achieved!

[Anonymous No.]

http://books.google.ru/books?id=_ICO0Mv3cw4C&lpg=PA293&ots=7F44af5Y9c&dq=Moses%20horns%2
0angels&pg=PA293#v=onepage&q=Moses%20horns%20angels&f=false
Moses can kill angels. Discuss.

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

God = Satan > EX Lucifer > Seraphim = Cherubim > Thrones >Dominions = Virtues = Powers > Principalities > Gabriel > Michael = Archangels >Angels

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155439
Now add in the Umineko characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155403

I disagree on that (Not the idiot soldier > cultivated non-soldier part)

While that must be truth in theory, votes are mostly made by emotional reasons rather than rational ones

It is a fact that humans "think" more with emotions

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155431
That's what I meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155330
Regardless though, the hands that placed the hands of the world's most heinous murderers are whose? In a representative democracy, we're all the murderers. Even if you voted for the "other guy", because, brotip: they're all the same, they just change three or four opinions on some meaningless public policy issue for our benefit.

Notice how the prosecution of the war is going exactly the same, only now it's in Afghanistan again? Ah, surely now it's because we're looking for Bin Laden and not for oil, right?

Like we'll ever see a drop of oil out of Iraq anyway, shit's going straight to Russia. None of the things most people believe mean anything, the powers that be move around at their own whims and for their own purposes, our little illusion is that we have some modicum of control over what the suits that show up on TV say. The reality is that we have as much control as they do. None.

So, that's the world through a veterans eyes. You guys have it colored from one side, and I have kindly filled in the rest. The world certainly isn't what anyone says it is, there's no right answer, and even if there was, either the common people would oppose it for some reason, or the empty suits would oppose it for another. That's how it always is, that's how it will always be. This is human nature, we're ugly little things, aren't we?

[Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Demiurge > God

We're fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3154838
im joining the marines after i graduate college

3d is pig disgusting though why would i want to find a girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155404
>Metatron
The destruction to end all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155470
Marines? Enjoy epic fail and war. I'll watch you from my comfortable CHAIRFORCE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155403
I'll dispel this one a bit too, it's a favorite of many internet elitists.

It's certainly true that, on average, a military person is less educated than those not. There are outliers, like myself, of course, but most are your average bottom 50% of their class sorts.

What military training is, surprisingly, is extreme focus on rapid decision making and response to incredibly complicated and stressful situations. It's less so for privates, but as you gain rank and responsibility, you have to be able to see a developing situation and react in the way that achieves the objective and minimizes casualties. I promise, it's not very easy, it requires quick thinking and solid decision making.

But, your point is more about general education, isn't it? Again, I can't strongly refute that, but, the idea behind military service being required for the right to vote is that you have to invest something into the country in order to make decisions about it. There were others who could vote, in the system, peacecorps types, police officers, those sorts of people. But guys that went to work in some corporation could not vote, as they were not investing in the security of the nation. Or something like that.

To me, it makes sense. Most people who feel outrage and entitlement in a country like ours don't actually pay income taxes, they get it back. They just work here and do their thing, contributing nothing, taking plenty and complaining the whole way.

That's something I am against.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I bet this shit is what they do in the Vatican all day, discuss the power levels of the various angels and demons.


Oh, and Shiki can kill God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155470
All 2D warriors should be in real life soldiers killing 3D enemies

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155439
Y'know, Michael and his like are considered seraphim, or at least higher-ranking angels rather than just low level archangels in several interpretations.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ --> /k/ and /religion/

WTF is this thread about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155526
You must be new here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155526
powerlevel discussions based on the Bible and should i join the army and would this improve my life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155526
Sorry, bro. I felt compelled to respond to this guys blag. /k/'s been shit and trolls for years, so I was moderately excited to express my thoughts. Plus, we don't really have a good forum, not in the internet sense, I just mean a place to discuss, for politics and religion. This thread encompasses many needs! Thank goodness this shit will get janitored soon, though, right?!

[littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>3155520
Well since the angelic hierarchy includes all heavenly beings, an Archangel is only low tiered because of its tasks. In terms of strictly angels though, they are high tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155564
Janitor is usually long gone by now.

[Koof !CUTE/F2gdA No.]

i don't wanna die yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155564
Feel free to discuss all you want, not like we have a Janitor or Mod around to stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155163
We'd be in the monasteries, chilling out with the latest books, manuscripts, periodicals of that age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155503
Hrm.
A soldier risks his life to defend his country, which is admirable (assuming he's defending), but actually costs the country quite a lot since he generates zero income and requires a huge investment.
General people working and paying close to 50% of their income in taxes do invest in their country... they pay for a lot of things, including education.
Just saying, people should have a say based on their own individual merit. Considering that some soldiers are geniuses and some are morons, something as arbitrary as military training sounds completely random to me.
In any case, a "voting" system is more or less a tyranny. They make you choose between a couple groups with very similar agendas and that's it; you don't actually have a say in any serious matter.
With a population this large I don't think there is any system that's gonna work for humans.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm planning to join the Air Force around winter. I've gotta find some recruiters around the area. Although I've only been NEET for half a year, I really would like to do something else. I'm indecisive so I'm having the military decide for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3155668
Have fun wasting four years.