Kusunoki Sio

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Wa-ru-ku-nai-yo-ne?

Seriously, this woman was framed. Let Towa have friends.

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Sio dindu nuffin, she's a good girl!

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Sio love!

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https://note.com/tamonmaru/n/n9ee454ecf41a
She's innocent. There's not even room for debate.

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so i take it most of her current "supporters" are just holofags who like her because of towa?
that's fucking sad. where are all the old tamafags?

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>>31223942
Sio loves Towa

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She kind of fucked over idolbu though

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>>31224926
Possibly. Got info about it?
>>31224451
Dunno. We're going for a second win. If EOPs start a chain reaction here, we might finally get a wider selection of Japanese-raised Vtubers speaking English without dropping the Japanese elements.

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>>31224451
I like her because of mahjong. Ironically enough it was Sio that introduced me to Towa and hololive in general.

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>>31224451
Towa deserves to have her wife back. Then she will switch back to her deep voice. Win/win for everyone. FREE SIO

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>>31226693
FREE SIO

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>>31224451
Are they Tamafags or Idolbufags in the first place? If its the latter than theyre probably fans turned antis. AFAIK she have dedicated antis on her back even before the 5ch issue

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>>31225475
.LIVE is too vague about it. I dont think Tama's case even made it in NRKM. Idolbufags probably hate her just from their headcanon.

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>>31226102
okay but do you guys know about the idolbu drama?

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>>31226958
I've heard virtually nothing about it.

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When's she streaming again? I thought it was at the 24th or something?

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>>31228895
She's stremaing in ~5 hours as part of the Christmas singing stream relay. It will only be for 30 minutes though. She's suppose to have a collab with Lamy tomorrow as well.

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>>31229306
I'm retarded I thought this was the Towa thread because I saw >>31226799

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>>31228895
It was yesterday, check archives because someone uploaded it

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tell me about sio's ass. i keep hearing about how huge it is but it feels like the skirt would just hide everything so there has to be more to it than that

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>>31223900
No.

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>>31224451
Still here. Watched her when she was still Tama because she had a CSGO vod. Then got interested in mahjong and watched her lectures, even though most of it passed right through because I was bad at japanese at the time. Learned more about her as the super genius of idolbu, and that got me into idolbu a little bit. I knew about the dynamics in idolbu due to watching their main channel shorts but only really watched Pino other than Tama. Got off idolbu way before the drama, cause the whole group really felt cringe to me for some reason (same as what happened with me and hololive recently). Still watched Tama every now and then but other chuubas started to take my attention.

Tama probably got me learning japanese enough to enjoy vtubers as well as I do today now, and I'm grateful to her for that, so this isn't enough for me to lose faith in her, even if the implications seem to be true. So she cheats at mahjong, big deal. Pretty sure we knew she used aimbots in that CSGO vod too, I saw plenty of posts alluding to it back then. She's still interesting otherwise so I'd like her to be back even if her rep is tainted now. It's sad because unless she pulls another protagonist move she'll have kegare on her forever, no collabs in sight.

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I'm just trying to get a bird's eye view of what's going on, but in Japan, people tend to be very critical.
It is almost certain that she was posting on 5ch, as verified by volunteers, and there is no material to contradict this.

On the other hand, there is a strong enough view that .Live's actions are unacceptable.
I'm not opposed to her return to the site, but I do regret that she spoke ill of Masaki Kanon anonymously.

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>>31224451
hi

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>>31263420
>It is almost certain that she was posting on 5ch, as verified by volunteers, and there is no material to contradict this.
うそばっかじゃん

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>>31223900
Is that Roboco's and Aki's rival for Towa's love, Sio?

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>>31224451
The other way around. I was her fan during her Tama days. Back then I only watch Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna and .LIVE. Didn't care for Sora and Hololive. You see, I am a huge sucker for mahjong and really I just love the girl (and the soothing bgm she uses).

Then bam the incident happened. I stopped watching vtubers entirely and unsubbed to them (except Tama and Mochi). Then Christmas came, Tama got reincarnated and became Sio. I followed her again until she started collabing with Towa. That's how I became a Towa fan because she and Sio are perfect together. I still believe Sio did nothing wrong.

PS: Chieri is still a selfish bitch.

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>>31263420
Hey, I think you got lost. 5ch is two blocks down, buddy

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I unironically miss her even if I didn't really watch her regularly.

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>>31263420
Not her. It's a shared dynamic IP ergo someone near her is the one posting on 5ch. Some areas Japan despite being a developed country still has a shitty internet, ISP that forces users to use share the same set IPs. So it isn't her.

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I have nothing but love for this cute fellow shitposter. They hated her because she told the truth.

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>Sio will never doxx or shitpost about you on 5ch
why live...

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I for one don't like Sio that much but she's really so much better than homolive and niggersanji.

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>>31223900
Roguelikes can save her ! Let's all encourage her to play roguelikes and cheer her ! We're all part of the same family !

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Isn't she supposed to be back soon?

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>>31269541
Keep up your denial faggot.

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>>31271263
really?

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>>31287017
>>31271263
She did a stream on the 24th.

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>>31224451
I like her because of the shitposting

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>>31271263
She was thinking of quitting but her fans convinced her to reconsider, she did a member only on NND >>31287108
She's not getting a youtube because she doesn't like the color green.
fat ass onegai...

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>>31223900
>Let Towa have friends.
What about Nose?

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Sio's design is absolute pure sex, either in her casual or her idol outfit.

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So did she really cheat on mahjong?

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>>31269317
#based, .LIVE is irrelevant they got what they deserved

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>>31253841
How did you know she was using aimbots?
Could you explain it in detail?

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>>31223900
why isn't she back properly yet? how are the antis not bored already

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>>31327981
I haven't seen her CSGO vods before, but aim bot is real fucking obvious. Especially if you have vods to review where she's looking.

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>>31330290
Thanks. Are you talking about this vid or others?
If she did use an aimbot in this vid, at what time do you think she obviously used it?
https://youtu.be/mcEUTXKmpXg

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>>31330290
Sorry, I forgot to read the first part of your sentences, but I want to prove that she did not cheat during the matches. Could you help me?

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>>31330666
Going to need more footage than that. Aimbot can be turned on and off mid game, and she could use it for only certain instances or weapons that she is not good at using. The pistol round had a bit of small snapping which was slightly suspicious. Her awping was great and had nothing suspicious. If she can awp that decently, I wonder why she would even need to use aimbot. No wonder Towa wants to be her friend.

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>>31331722
Thank you!
It’s reassuring a skilled player like you proved that she did nothing wrong.
However, some antis still want to put a blame on her for what she didn’t do by saying that she cheated in these vids on her Twitter account.
I don’t believe she resorted to such thing, so I’ll really appreciate it if you could verify that there’s nothing wrong in the vids.
https://mobile.twitter.com/yozakuratama/status/1142310137400627200

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>>31330666
I don't think she's using aimbot in that vid. It's edited, so there's no rounds where she immediately eats shit which makes her look better than she actually is
She doesn't look at people through walls, etc
Her account has 512 ranked wins, so at least 1000 matches played. Her rank is kinda low for that amount of games, which explains why she doesn't perform that well during livestreams. She can't shoot non-scoped weapons for shit
I'd have a hard time explaining her godlike reads in mahjong though, considering that she never had a high rank on tenhou or majsoul

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>There are still unironic Sio fans
How can you like someone with such a rotten personality? is it a femdom thing?
>>31332292
Nobody gives a shit about her CSGO days.
She 100% cheated in mahjong, even against big names like Tsuchida and Ooi.
She got sponsored by Yostar and even had a spot in Kindai Mahjong, all built on literal cheating.
I'm glad this scam artist's career is ruined, nobody will collab with her or even mention her.

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>>31343675
>How can you like someone with such a rotten personality? is it a femdom thing?
it's not like I have a glowing impression of other vtubers, Sio doesn't seem that different to me, personality wise

she's conniving, sure, but aren't most of them? You don't get big without some amount of that

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Towa had some heartfelt words for Sio in her members stream...

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>>31344758
When?

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>>31349654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMGhjks7vs&t=3171s

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>>31271854
He's already posted at times when she literally couldn't have posted from her usual IP address. We've seen it multiple times

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>>31269317
>Chieri

Don't know anything about her. How did that work?

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>>31349688
I have no clue what she said. Pls help.

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>>31353060
Post Scripts area thing anon, don't be naive.

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>>31355194
>Using post scripts to shitpost about workers
>Instead of just masking your IP address
>When nobody suspects you of anything to begin with.
>Believing this instead of just looking at the posts, realizing it's a fan-spectator, and giving up on this shit narrative.
5chan, that you?

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>>31355339
I am just saying different posting times is not proof of innocence. So one should not be using it as such.

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>>31355339
Haven’t you watched these vids?
https://youtu.be/gGdgEtEg8JE
https://youtu.be/lmuFP7-7RKM

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>>31355482
>I am just saying different posting times is not proof of innocence.
Anon, it's corroborative evidence.
>>31356313
Sounds like what Tamomaru was saying.

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>>31357052
Did you really watch the vids? Her left hand was moving as if she was typing something on her phone in both vids. Sure, it could’ve been something else like Discord or texting to her friend, but you cannot 100% deny the possibility of her posting on 5ch. Besides, she is excellent at multitasking iirc, right?
Also, Tammonmaru himself is a biased fan, so there’s little to no objectivity in his opinion. Who knows if he intentionally “mistranslated” or chose not to translate some of the posts?
Also, how do you explain that ec knew what only Sio could’ve known unless she lied about her family being not involved with this implication to us?
Do you still believe an extremely skilled hacker somehow decided to hack into her PC and did nothing harmful but shitposting on 5ch for 3 months?

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>>31357533
>Did you really watch the vids? Her left hand was moving as if she was typing something on her phone in both vids.
While talking and playing Mahjong? I don't buy it. The timing there would make no sense, and it doesn't account for times when the IP was active while she was away from home.
>Also, Tammonmaru himself is a biased fan, so there’s little to no objectivity in his opinion. Who knows if he intentionally “mistranslated” or chose not to translate some of the posts?
Just run the posts through DeepL or Yandex, then.
>Also, how do you explain that ec knew what only Sio could’ve known unless she lied about her family being not involved with this implication to us?
1.) Clarify. What information could ONLY Sio have known?
2.) It's possible that she lied about her family not being involved in order to protect them, as her real identity was on the internet already.
>Do you still believe an extremely skilled hacker somehow decided to hack into her PC and did nothing harmful but shitposting on 5ch for 3 months?
Nobody made this claim. Just that Japan's sometimes-shitty internet infrastructure can cause multiple unrelated people to share an IP address. In this case, it was someone aware of Sio (who possibly only gained an interest BECAUSE he was an IP neighbor of a Vtuber), who sat there and shat out vapid posts.

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>>31357533
>Her left hand was moving as if she was typing something on her phone in both vids.
Just checked again. You can't even see her left hand in the first vid, and her right hand is on the mouse.
As for the second vid, there is a spot where it could've been her, but I don't know what the message says.

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>>31354783
She cried and remembered how much she talked and played with Sio. She then said she said to Sio 'You didn't do what people said did you? You are my friend , I will believe you and wait for you" She hopes Sio is doing well but doesn't sound like they have had much contact since.

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>>31357533
>>31357990
Just did a hand-translation of her post in the second video. Guess what it was. Guess what it fucking was.

"arisutomikochiganatsuteru"
"Alice and Mikochi are in the summer"
FUCKING HELL. I HATE TRYING TO DECIPHER THEIR HELLISH SCRIPTS.

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>>31358473
Bonus: The earlier post was "チートイだろ" (Chītoidaro), meaning "It's a cheeto".

FUCK THIS. 5Chan needs an enema.

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>>31357819
OK, it’s gonna be fucking long, but please bear with it.
> The timing there would make no sense, and it doesn't account for times when the IP was active while she was away from home.
Why are you so sure the timing would make no sense? Could you explain it in detail?
Also, why do you believe she was away from home? Japan was rife with COVID at that moment, remember? Are you saying she was so inconsiderate she flied to Tokyo or somewhere without thinking about working in remote?
Besides, she can still post on 5ch with the same IP if she controls the pc at home remotely.
>Just run the posts through DeepL or Yandex, then.
Sure. Here’s one of the things Tamonnmaru chose not to explain.
941 : No Name. (watcheoi b5ec-Bqa1 [222.4.120.217])[sage]: 2020/07/12 (Sun) 21:00:38.08 ID: 56Ciey1B0
To >>553 in the Sio’s anti thread.
I'm the one who posted Hirosawa’s LINE account on 5ch(Hirosawa is an employee of her former agency).
Basically, posting someone’s LINE account on 5ch is same as posting one’s phone number, which of course is illegal in Japan. Also, the one who posted Hirosawa’s account posted what only Sio knew at that moment, which I’ll explain in the later part.
Another thing Tamonnmaru didn’t explain is that ec also spread the true identity of Reo Akanezaki, one of Sio’s fellow Vtubers. So yeah, I’m sure he intentionally hid some information that can be used against Sio/ec.
> 1.) Clarify. What information could ONLY Sio have known?
As you know, ec with the IP pinpointed the Manga artist who was supposed to draw a Manga featuring Sio. The only ones who knew this info are either Sio, the artist himself, her family or someone in Takeshobou. With ec knowing Hirosawa’s LINE account and Reo’s true identity, it’s natural to think that ec=Sio.
Furthermore, the one who posted Hirosawa’s account on 5ch claimed that Sio ranked up in Tenho, which was impossible unless ec was the one who played Tenho with Sio at that moment or Sio herself. Not to mention it is impossible to obtain the log by hacking into the server, which has been stated by Tsunoda himself.
Furthermore, there are moments when ec said what exactly Sio said in her streaming in Niconico a week prior to it. Both Sio and ec said that “ she cannot do drawing in her streams due to the lack of USB ports”, which of course had not been known by fans until that day. Also, when she explained the reason why she played APEX in her stream after her work had been cancelled, she used the exact same excuse as what ec said a week ago with exact same words.
Which means that the ec is the one who
1)somehow knew Sio’s former employer’s LINE account
2)somehow knew who was in charge of her Manga
3)somehow able to know that Sio leveled up in Tenho before the log was released in public.
4)somehow knew why she can’t do drawing in her stream
5)somehow predicted the excuse she would use in her stream.
6) and somehow knew Reo’s true identity and didn’t hesitate to post it on 5ch.
> It's possible that she lied about her family not being involved in order to protect them, as her real identity was on the internet already.
If you’re talking about Sio being doxxed, no. It has yet to happen. Sure, her previous Twitter accounts have been found and widely spread, but no one know her true name and where she lives, left alone any clues leading to it. That’s why antis were so perplexed when she claimed she is being doxxed.
Also, if she did lie to us to protect her family, that’s definitely what she shouldn’t have done because she sacrificed the reputations of her sponsors, her fellow Vtuber and herself for doing what’s objectively not right.
>Nobody made this claim. Just that Japan's sometimes-shitty internet infrastructure can cause multiple unrelated people to share an IP address. In this case, it was someone aware of Sio (who possibly only gained an interest BECAUSE he was an IP neighbor of a Vtuber), who sat there and shat out vapid posts.
No one knew Sio’s IP address until it was leaked on note. Are you saying there was an extremely skilled hacker who was somehow able to obtain Sio’s IP address without being noticed?
Or you could say it has been done by someone who was close to Sio or her family. In that case, you can say that she continued on streaming instead of immediately going hiatus for the sake of the safety of herself and her family, knowing she had been stalked by someone she knew. I don’t buy such a poor excuse.

I have more to talk, like the similarity between Issenchi and Sio’s art style, someone who kept leaking confidential information of Appland and was very familiar with Tama/Sio’s history, and someone with the same HN as Sio had used in the past who was looking for a guy to talk to on Skype Channel, and so on, but it will take forever to talk about all of them.
Let me know if you wanna know more about the evidences that have been gathered by Japanese fans.

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>>31359333
Basically, ec was explaining what Sio’s next moves would be. チートイ is one of yaku hands in Mahjong.

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>>31358473
Oh. Never fucking mind me.
"アリスとみこちがなつてる"
"Alice and Mikoto are connected."

Presumably, this refers to the Nijisanji characters "Mononabe Alice" and "Rindou Mikoto", who're part of the group "Twinkle".

The middle post, when put through DeepL, just comes out to
"You don't have to pick up the leaves now.
I was just flushing it down the drain."
That's assuming the timing of the video is accurate.

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>>31360110
>Why are you so sure the timing would make no sense? Could you explain it in detail?
I'll leave that to the side, as there are bigger things here.
>Also, why do you believe she was away from home? Japan was rife with COVID at that moment, remember? Are you saying she was so inconsiderate she flied to Tokyo or somewhere without thinking about working in remote?
There were a number of times when she went traveling, but the IP remained active.
>Besides, she can still post on 5ch with the same IP if she controls the pc at home remotely.
Why would anyone bother with that? Is that normal in Japan?
>Sure. Here’s one of the things Tamonnmaru chose not to explain.
I don't have access to her thread, so I can't say with any certainty whether or not this is true, or attributable to Sio.
>As you know, ec with the IP pinpointed the Manga artist who was supposed to draw a Manga featuring Sio. The only ones who knew this info are either Sio, the artist himself, her family or someone in Takeshobou. With ec knowing Hirosawa’s LINE account and Reo’s true identity, it’s natural to think that ec=Sio.
Furthermore, the one who posted Hirosawa’s account on 5ch claimed that Sio ranked up in Tenho, which was impossible unless ec was the one who played Tenho with Sio at that moment or Sio herself. Not to mention it is impossible to obtain the log by hacking into the server, which has been stated by Tsunoda himself.
Remember that Sio herself still uses that same IP address, so there could just be moments where she posted one thing, but not the others. The other character could've either seen an announcement by Sio, or made an inference based on her behavior.
>Furthermore, there are moments when ec said what exactly Sio said in her streaming in Niconico a week prior to it. Both Sio and ec said that “ she cannot do drawing in her streams due to the lack of USB ports”, which of course had not been known by fans until that day. Also, when she explained the reason why she played APEX in her stream after her work had been cancelled, she used the exact same excuse as what ec said a week ago with exact same words.
How are you differentiating the two? They share an IP.
>If you’re talking about Sio being doxxed, no. It has yet to happen. Sure, her previous Twitter accounts have been found and widely spread, but no one know her true name and where she lives, left alone any clues leading to it. That’s why antis were so perplexed when she claimed she is being doxxed.
Also, if she did lie to us to protect her family, that’s definitely what she shouldn’t have done because she sacrificed the reputations of her sponsors, her fellow Vtuber and herself for doing what’s objectively not right.
1.) You've just admitted to being an anti.
2.) If she had reason to believe one of her known Twitter accounts COULD be somehow linked to someone in her family, that's just as much of a reason to claim it wasn't them. No matter what the answer is, having a sibling or parent take the fall for it is unacceptable, and it makes Sio vulnerable.
>No one knew Sio’s IP address until it was leaked on note. Are you saying there was an extremely skilled hacker who was somehow able to obtain Sio’s IP address without being noticed?
No. I'm saying that two people can end up sharing an IP address without knowing.
>I have more to talk
I'd like to go in order.

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Might as well ask this here

Any recommendations for chuubas who are actually good at mahjong that I can learn from? I'm already watching Takaharu's coaching series.

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>>31360791
>There were a number of times when she went traveling, but the IP remained active.
As far as I know, there’s one time ec was active while she was away from home, which is when she was in Tokyo.
There are two counter arguments for that. First, COVID was rife in Tokyo at that moment, so it is possible that she worked in remote for the safety reason, claiming that she wasn’t at home.
Another thing is that she complained about her sluggish laptop on Twitter when she was reportedly in Tokyo, which is what typically happens when you use Remote Desktop. You can translate the tweet below if you want to.
https://twitter.com/sio_kusunoki/status/1283730729281572864
> I don't have access to her thread, so I can't say with any certainty whether or not this is true, or attributable to Sio.
I provide you with the links so that you can translate them by DeepL and and see for yourself. Good luck.
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200627/bkttZ0Z5cGgw.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200712/NTZDaWV5MUIw.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200401/aTFORzI2YlMwVVNP.html
>The other character could've either seen an announcement by Sio, or made an inference based on her behavior.
Ec posted it on March 21st in JST and there was NO such announcements or implications made by Sio at that moment. You can use DeepL and see if what I’m saying is a lie.
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200321/WURkY2RnODEw.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=from%3ASio_Kusunoki%E3%80%80since%3A2019-03-20_23%3A59%3A59_JST%20until%3A2020-03-22_00%3A00%3A00_JST&src=typed_query

> How are you differentiating the two? They share an IP.
Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean by that. Are you saying ec should’ve known any info Sio had because they shared the same IP?
> 1.) You've just admitted to being an anti.
Yes, I am. But I’ll provide you with as many impartial evidences I have as possible to maintain the objectivity. As far as I can see, you don’t have enough information to decide if she is innocent.
> 2.) If she had reason to believe one of her known Twitter accounts COULD be somehow linked to someone in her family, that's just as much of a reason to claim it wasn't them. No matter what the answer is, having a sibling or parent take the fall for it is unacceptable, and it makes Sio vulnerable.
Actually, there’s an Twitter account who claims she herself is Sio’s mother. However, there’s no actual evidence that it’s true, and again, no one has posted her and her family’s true identity on the internet, or things would’ve been much worse by now.
And yes, doxxing is unacceptable no matter what. That’s why people are furious at Sio who might have done it.
> No. I'm saying that two people can end up sharing an IP address without knowing.
Well, that’s totally different from what you previously said.
>(Who possibly only gained an interest BECAUSE he was an IP neighbor of a Vtuber)
> Remember that Sio herself still uses that same IP address, so there could just be moments where she posted one thing, but not the others.
Basically, what’s revealed in both 5ch and her note is IPv4, which is tied to one’s address.
It is true that some people share the same IP ONLY WHEN they are living nearby.
This means that even if ec wasn’t Sio, it was possible that a harmful stalker was living near her home, which must have been extremely dangerous. And Sio somehow chose to continue on streaming in such a condition even if it might have risked her and her family.
This fact has been proven by a CEO of IT company who’s also one of the most skilled computer engineer. Translate his tweets below, if you want to.
https://twitter.com/chokudai/status/1296251404852445184
Furthermore, what ecs had in common was they NEVER slandered Sio but other Vtubers, and they ALWAYS defended her no matter what. Also, they were sharing the same ID and Wacchoi(which is like a second ID), which is almost impossible unless they are the same person.
And remember, where ec kept posting on was her former group’s anti thread, not hers. So, even if she posted only one thing, it doesn’t change the fact that she was in her former friends’ anti thread, which itself is a huge scandal.
> I'd like to go in order.
As for the similarity between Issenchi and Sio’s art style, you can see >>31326410.
I’ll talk about other things later on.

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>>31361108
I recommend Kurono Senba or Moko Sakaino. Both of them are highly skilled Mahjong players and are really good at teaching Mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

So, when Sio was still in Idolbu as Tama, There were so many leaked information such as the members’ faces irl, their true name, their home addresses, and so on, and most of the leaks came from their anti thread on 5ch. Although I cannot say that all the leaks have been done by the same person, some of the leakers shared interesting stuff.
A few days before Idolbu’s first live concert was held, there was someone who leaked who would sing what songs, which had not been revealed until last the day of the concert.
Also, there was a one who leaked a new member(Merry Milk) joining in dot Live a few week prior to the official announcement. Furthermore, there was a leak on the release of a book written by two of the members(ぴのらぼ) 3 weeks prior to the official announcement. What the leakers had in common was that they all showed off Tama/Sio’s history in detail and always defended Tama, which corresponds to the personality of ec.
And last year, one of the members said that they had been suffering from the leakage of confidential information, but they wouldn’t suffer from it anymore just before Tama’s retirement was announced, implying that she was the one who leaked the information on 5ch. In fact, there has been NO leak from Idolbu since Tama quit it. The said posts are shown below.

http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20190516/S2RSU1hPdDQw.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20190517/WjZIOWFoNU4w.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20190518/dmtNSVJ2b1Jh.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20190521/VHVaWnk3NUYw.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20190602/aU0zSHVWWHVh.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>31364103
>As far as I know, there’s one time ec was active while she was away from home, which is when she was in Tokyo.
>There are two counter arguments for that. First, COVID was rife in Tokyo at that moment, so it is possible that she worked in remote for the safety reason, claiming that she wasn’t at home.
>Another thing is that she complained about her sluggish laptop on Twitter when she was reportedly in Tokyo, which is what typically happens when you use Remote Desktop. You can translate the tweet below if you want to.
What if she just has a crappy laptop? I've had the same experience with them. They're junk.
>I provide you with the links so that you can translate them by DeepL and and see for yourself. Good luck.
Thank you.
>Ec posted it on March 21st in JST and there was NO such announcements or implications made by Sio at that moment. You can use DeepL and see if what I’m saying is a lie.
Okay, what if it really was her who made that post? What then?
>Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean by that. Are you saying ec should’ve known any info Sio had because they shared the same IP?
No, I'm saying that there's not really a way to tell which one of them posted which thing.
If Sio posts X, and "EC" (whatever that means) posts Y, how can you tell which one is posting?
>Yes, I am. But I’ll provide you with as many impartial evidences I have as possible to maintain the objectivity. As far as I can see, you don’t have enough information to decide if she is innocent.
Fair enough.
>Actually, there’s an Twitter account who claims she herself is Sio’s mother. However, there’s no actual evidence that it’s true, and again, no one has posted her and her family’s true identity on the internet, or things would’ve been much worse by now.
>And yes, doxxing is unacceptable no matter what. That’s why people are furious at Sio who might have done it.
It's not about whether or not the information has been posted. Merely whether or not it would seem plausible to a person in her situation, that one of her Twitter accounts (or other online footprints) might potentially lead someone to her or her family.
>Well, that’s totally different from what you previously said.
I maintain it's possible that the person was aware of this link, and might've found out on their own, separately. Following this, he took an interest in Sio for any number of reasons.
I don't believe this is necessarily the case, but it's one possibility. Another would be, as I said, that it was purely a coincidence, and Sio's just very unlucky.
>Basically, what’s revealed in both 5ch and her note is IPv4, which is tied to one’s address.
It is true that some people share the same IP ONLY WHEN they are living nearby.
This means that even if ec wasn’t Sio, it was possible that a harmful stalker was living near her home, which must have been extremely dangerous. And Sio somehow chose to continue on streaming in such a condition even if it might have risked her and her family.
That sounds both plausible and terrifying. It's not like she'd necessarily be aware of it, either. Additionally, I'd need two pieces of information for this.
1.) How often do people sharing an IP address (due to technical limitations, rather than their living arrangements) tend to be physically near each other?
2.) Is it possible that Sio lives in a condo, apartment, or other structure where she could be sharing an IP address with other people? I recently heard of a man who shares a network with the other people (hundreds) in his condo, and who's confident in his ability to get away with piracy since the tech guy in the building wouldn't be able to help anyone who came looking even if they did trace it there.
>Furthermore, what ecs had in common was they NEVER slandered Sio but other Vtubers, and they ALWAYS defended her no matter what. Also, they were sharing the same ID and Wacchoi(which is like a second ID), which is almost impossible unless they are the same person.
What's a "Wacchoi"? All I get when I look it up is the doll.
Unfortunately, the other things you describe could easily apply to either Sio or a very competent stalker. Owing to her status as a public figure, and considering the infamy she acquired from idol-bu, it's possible that her name had reached just the right (wrong) person.
>And remember, where ec kept posting on was her former group’s anti thread, not hers. So, even if she posted only one thing, it doesn’t change the fact that she was in her former friends’ anti thread, which itself is a huge scandal.
Posting in areas populated by people who're against you isn't uncommon. I'm black, but I've posted in certain race-related /pol/ threads on occasion. If anything, it makes those areas curious, and you lot do seem to be good at keeping tabs on people.
>As for the similarity between Issenchi and Sio’s art style, you can see
I don't know who "Issenchi" is.
>I’ll talk about other things later on.
You're much more reasonable than I'd have expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31365753
Those links don't communicate much of anything, but Tama leaking concert info is believable enough, considering her gripes with the company. I'd like to see the tweet you mentioned with...
>And last year, one of the members said that they had been suffering from the leakage of confidential information, but they wouldn’t suffer from it anymore just before Tama’s retirement was announced
Also, is the concert leaker the same as the one who doxxed the other members?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31365757
> What if she just has a crappy laptop? I've had the same experience with them. They're junk.
That’s one of the possibilities. However, ec was already suspected to be Sio at that moment, so it is possible Sio tried to make an alibi. It’s a shame there’s no way to prove which is right.
> Okay, what if it really was her who made that post? What then?
Wacchoi is the combination of random numbers and a nickname such as ec or 76 that is predicated on which prefecture they are living in, and it’s unique to each individual poster. This prevents some malicious users or shitposters from using sock puppets. EC is a part of the Wacchoi the suspicious poster had, and that’s why he/she is called EC.
Problem is, the Wacchoi this ec had corresponds to that of the one who posted Hirosawa’s LINE account on 5ch. And ec with the IP claimed to be the one who did it, which makes Sio quite suspicious.
> No, I'm saying that there's not really a way to tell which one of them posted which thing.
OK, I got it. Basically, She didn’t tweet anything like that, but she talked about it during her stream which is only available for the ones in her membership on Niconico. And what she said in that stream corresponded to what ec with the IP posted on 5ch a week prior to the stream, which I cannot say a mere coincidence unless she saw the posts somewhere or she is the one who posted it.
Unfortunately, the only way to confirm whether it’s true or not is to join in her membership on Niconico and watch the vid, or waiting for someone to illegally upload it.
>Merely whether or not it would seem plausible to a person in her situation, that one of her Twitter accounts (or other online footprints) might potentially lead someone to her or her family.
Fair enough, but as far as I know, these accounts are still active and haven’t been locked yet, which is unnatural for the ones who are afraid of being doxxed.

>I maintain it's possible that the person was aware of this link, and might've found out on their own, separately.
That could be true, but the leak of Sio’s IP from note itself was the miracle no one, including antis, had never expected, which means there was no reason for the one to use the same IP as Sio’s unless use/she knew the exploit on note long before it was exposed in public and intended to set her up.
> Another would be, as I said, that it was purely a coincidence, and Sio's just very unlucky.
Well, that’s what makes this drama really complicated. As you said, it is possible that the correspondence of IP was merely a coincidence, but there are too many coincidences that are against Sio and that cannot be simply explained by Sio being unlucky or a malicious stalker flaming her.
> It's not like she'd necessarily be aware of it, either.
I agree. She definitely didn’t understand the situation she was in at that moment.
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[Anonymous No.]

> 1.) How often do people sharing an IP address (due to technical limitations, rather than their living arrangements) tend to be physically near each other?
I’m not an expert, but in Sio’s case, her IP was static and tied to a prefecture which EC and 76(which I’ll talk about later) claimed where she was from. I think sharing the static IP is unplausible unless, as you said, she is living in condo or mansion. There’s a guy who looked it up in detail and posted it. I’ll post the translation by DeepL below with the source.
https://seesaawiki.jp/ecmatome/d/ec%A4%C8%C6%EF%DB%D9%BA%F9note%A4%CEIP%B0%EC%C3%D7
262 Name. [sage] Submitted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 02:25:35.98
I was curious, so I looked up the details.
I don't think it's au HIKARI(Name of the network) with its own network that uses the 222.4.120.0/24(including Sio’s IP) range.
All v4 addresses under the above CIDR are registered as reverse lookups of ZJ120ddd.ppp.dion.ne.jp (ddd=4th octet).

As an open secret, the reverse lookup of KDaaabbbcccddd.pppp(-bb).dion.ne.jp is registered for au HIKARI's proprietary network.
(I think ADSL One was also registered in this way until around 2015, but I think it's dead now)

I think the range with only the 3rd and 4th octets following the English letters was used in the Flet's fiber optic line where KDDI (now au one net) is the ISP.
By the way, au one net does not provide static IPv4 service/options.
So, of course, Flet's would have to change its global IP every time the PPPoE session expires.
It's natural for people today to think so.
However, the global IP address of au one net has been effectively a fixed IP address since at least 2010, and is not a "dynamic IP" under the contract.
In fact, it has often been a problem that the address is fixed even though the contract calls for "dynamic IP".
(I think they probably decided to operate it that way to make it easier to introduce MAP-E/DS-Lite in the coming v6 plus era.

If it is not au HIKARI with its own network, but rather Flet's, it is more natural to assume that there is address translation at the end of the system...
However, KDDI's VNE is supposed to be the network enabler (JPNE) of the supporting subsidiary, and JPNE uses MAP-E, so the NAT is on the CPE side, not on the exit end.
Considering the specification of MAP-E, the probability that the admin of note said was 50%(possibility of sharing the same IP) that would be at most 0.01%.
I personally think it will be difficult to achieve that level.

> 2.) Is it possible that Sio lives in a condo, apartment, or other structure where she could be sharing an IP address with other people?
It’s possible, but if that’s the case, Sio was living in the same building as a malicious stalker(s) and didn’t notice it until the leak of IP happened, which makes the things really worse.
And not to mention the police would do whatever they have to do to immediately catch the stalker, but he/she has not been caught yet, and somehow she expects the one to get caught in 2 years or so, according her last stream on 24th. This is why many people suspect that there’s no such person in the first place.
> Posting in areas populated by people who're against you isn't uncommon. I'm black, but I've posted in certain race-related /pol/ threads on occasion. If anything, it makes those areas curious, and you lot do seem to be good at keeping tabs on people.
Actually, Idolbu’s anti thread has been essentially Sio’s fan thread as well, since Sio/Tama is the one who single-handedly destroyed Idolbu’s reputation. In fact, there were lots of antis who kept slandering Idolbu by comparing them with Sio, who was one of the most successful independent Vtubers, and she might have been part of them.
> I don't know who "Issenchi" is.
Issenchi is the one who designed Sio’s 2D body and drew several arts for her, and he has actually been helping her for more than 10 years.
What’s shown in >>31326410 is that his art style is almost same as that of Tama/Sio. Although ec claimed that its natural because Issenchi is Sio’s mentor, I still suspect that either Issenchi copied Sio’s drawing or he was Sio’s ghostwriter/drawer, since Tama/Sio never did drawing live streams and showed quite suspicious behavior during one of her streamings.
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[Anonymous No.]

this the girl who had to sing 8 hours?
Did she make it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31366040
> I'd like to see the tweet you mentioned with...
Well, it’s not a tweet, but that’s what one of the members said in her deleted stream. Here’s the part of what she said and the link to the vid.
https://youtu.be/p9hsx9yhfrQ

...In addition, due to the possibility of information leaks from within, the information and timing of communication was always limited. This was not to, you know, tease us or anything like that, but to protect us from any suspicion, and even during collaboration meetings, DotLive was always watching over us....
....But I don't think that will be necessary anymore.
...I have been thinking a lot about her(presumably Tama) telling stories that would stir up anxiety among the members, and information that have been leaked to the outside for a long time.
> Also, is the concert leaker the same as the one who doxxed the other members?
Not really. One of the leakers I showed you mentioned a member’s personal info, but it’s not harmful enough. But there has been a leak of other member’s personal info that must not have been possible unless it had been an internal work because she had zero experience in streaming and no one was able to find any connection between the member and her true identity even after her Instagram account had been leaked.
Also, the time around which the leak was posted corresponds to when dot Live started restricting the communication between the members, according to the recent streams by Idol-bu.
Also, some of the members were doxxed by 76 who is called like that because of the same number in his/her Wacchoi, and this is what this drama really complicated.
What 76 made extraordinary was not only he/she was able to doxx two of the members out of nowhere, but also was able to notice the change in the header of Tama’s Twitter account much faster than the tweet made by a bot. Also, 76 leaked a post from a discord server which could be viewed only by the members of Idolbu and Appland. Since 76’s personality is also similar to that of ec and said leakers, many suspect that they all are the same person, but there has yet to be any solid evidence that support this theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31371954
>Wacchoi is the combination of random numbers and a nickname such as ec or 76 that is predicated on which prefecture they are living in, and it’s unique to each individual poster. This prevents some malicious users or shitposters from using sock puppets. EC is a part of the Wacchoi the suspicious poster had, and that’s why he/she is called EC.
>Problem is, the Wacchoi this ec had corresponds to that of the one who posted Hirosawa’s LINE account on 5ch. And ec with the IP claimed to be the one who did it, which makes Sio quite suspicious.
Did all of the posts from Sio's IP use the same Wacchoi?
>OK, I got it. Basically, She didn’t tweet anything like that, but she talked about it during her stream which is only available for the ones in her membership on Niconico. And what she said in that stream corresponded to what ec with the IP posted on 5ch a week prior to the stream, which I cannot say a mere coincidence unless she saw the posts somewhere or she is the one who posted it.
Unfortunately, the only way to confirm whether it’s true or not is to join in her membership on Niconico and watch the vid, or waiting for someone to illegally upload it.
If that's true, and if it's as hard to nab someone's wacchoi as you say, it sounds like you have your culprit.
>Fair enough, but as far as I know, these accounts are still active and haven’t been locked yet, which is unnatural for the ones who are afraid of being doxxed.
Hers, or those of her family members?
>That could be true, but the leak of Sio’s IP from note itself was the miracle no one, including antis, had never expected, which means there was no reason for the one to use the same IP as Sio’s unless use/she knew the exploit on note long before it was exposed in public and intended to set her up.
Actually, just a bit more to clear up with this.
1.) Has Sio's IP ever been shown outside 5chan and that one time with note?
2.) What caused the IP leak?
>Well, that’s what makes this drama really complicated. As you said, it is possible that the correspondence of IP was merely a coincidence, but there are too many coincidences that are against Sio and that cannot be simply explained by Sio being unlucky or a malicious stalker flaming her.
Yeah, there's no getting around that one.
>I’m not an expert, but in Sio’s case, her IP was static and tied to a prefecture which EC and 76(which I’ll talk about later) claimed where she was from. I think sharing the static IP is unplausible unless, as you said, she is living in condo or mansion. There’s a guy who looked it up in detail and posted it. I’ll post the translation by DeepL below with the source.
What I got from that is that, if Sio isn't EC, "EC" would've had to directly, intentionally nab the IP of Sio.
>It’s possible, but if that’s the case, Sio was living in the same building as a malicious stalker(s) and didn’t notice it until the leak of IP happened, which makes the things really worse.
And not to mention the police would do whatever they have to do to immediately catch the stalker, but he/she has not been caught yet, and somehow she expects the one to get caught in 2 years or so, according her last stream on 24th. This is why many people suspect that there’s no such person in the first place.
Are the police there in the habit of announcing it when they've captured suspects in incidents like this? I've heard of cases in passing (mainly in other countries, admittedly) where someone in danger was moved back to an old location to draw out a threat. Unfortunately, this shows signs of being one of a few things:
A.) Sio being in legitimate danger and trying to draw her stalker out (likely advised by another, and while being protected by the police).
B.) Sio making up a threat and hoping the police don't contradict her.
C.) Sio panicking, either because of attention or a sincere threat, and making a false announcement without having a plan.
D.) Sio somehow sending the police on a wild goose chase. (Not sure if this is a thing in Japan).
E.) This actually being the truth, and somehow, the police simply failed to capture a guy who was living near her.
>Actually, Idolbu’s anti thread has been essentially Sio’s fan thread as well, since Sio/Tama is the one who single-handedly destroyed Idolbu’s reputation. In fact, there were lots of antis who kept slandering Idolbu by comparing them with Sio, who was one of the most successful independent Vtubers, and she might have been part of them.
If she was getting positive attention and support from people in the thread, no matter what it's called, it makes sense for her to interact with them.
>Issenchi (Condensed for space)
There are a number of possibilities there, but it has little to do with the central matter. It makes no difference to me whether Issenchi's Sio, a ghostwriter, or her copycat.
>>31373764
She might be coming back, but things are weird for her right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31374238
>Well, it’s not a tweet, but that’s what one of the members said in her deleted stream. Here’s the part of what she said and the link to the vid.
Someone privy to a lot of sensitive info caused them trouble, and when the suspect was publicly thrown out, the activity stopped. Make of that what you can.
>Not really. One of the leakers I showed you mentioned a member’s personal info, but it’s not harmful enough. But there has been a leak of other member’s personal info that must not have been possible unless it had been an internal work because she had zero experience in streaming and no one was able to find any connection between the member and her true identity even after her Instagram account had been leaked.
Is this "EC"?
>Also, the time around which the leak was posted corresponds to when dot Live started restricting the communication between the members, according to the recent streams by Idol-bu.
Before, or after? How effective was this tactic?
>Also, some of the members were doxxed by 76 who is called like that because of the same number in his/her Wacchoi, and this is what this drama really complicated.
>What 76 made extraordinary was not only he/she was able to doxx two of the members out of nowhere, but also was able to notice the change in the header of Tama’s Twitter account much faster than the tweet made by a bot. Also, 76 leaked a post from a discord server which could be viewed only by the members of Idolbu and Appland.
Unfortunately, that could be anyone. Need more information to make anything of it.
>Since 76’s personality is also similar to that of ec and said leakers, many suspect that they all are the same person, but there has yet to be any solid evidence that support this theory.
The most important thing here is understanding the cause and timing of Sio's IP being exposed. If it's just a chance deal, Sio's in a terrible position.
If there was some planning involved in it, then either a stalker, someone aligned with the company, or some yet-to-be-considered character is the primary suspect. Any premeditation leaves room for the possibility that they managed to tamper with her settings.

Please describe the "Personalities" of 76, EC, and Sio. You say they're similar. How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31373297
>Sio/Tama is the one who single-handedly destroyed Idolbu’s reputation.
Last I heard, she just complained to management about a costume, was suspected of leaking concert info, and got kicked from the group. Something else happen?

[Anonymous No.]

wheres the note of the full translation of the ec thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31374249
Yes, and no, because Wacchoi is renewed every Wednesday, aside from ec part. However, the posts from Sio’s IP maintained the same Wacchoi every day in a week, and since sharing the same Wacchoi is still almost impossible, it is likely that they are the same person. Maybe it’s easier to see it for yourself. Please take a look at the red flagged IP part and ワッチョイ(Wacchoi) part in this page.
https://seesaawiki.jp/ecmatome/d/%a5%c9%a5%eb%a5%a2%a5%f3ec%bd%f1%a4%ad%b9%fe%a4%df#content_0_5_2
> Hers, or those of her family members?
Those of whom appear to be her family members. Their accounts are still active, but stopped talking about Sio after the incident.
> 1.) Has Sio's IP ever been shown outside 5chan and that one time with note?
Sio’s IP was found only on 5ch and note, so it is unlikely that it had been leaked in somewhere else before.
> 2.) What caused the IP leak?
There’s a website called note where you can make money by posting your essays and columns on it. Sio often posted her essays and announcements as well. On August 14th, a guy found out that anyone could see a user’s IP from the source code of one’s page, and the rest is history.
> What I got from that is that, if Sio isn't EC, "EC" would've had to directly, intentionally nab the IP of Sio.
Or ec had to share the same internet with Sio who lived in either her house or condo or whaterver.
> Unfortunately, this shows signs of being one of a few things
If it were C), she could’ve just explained it to her fans and things would’ve been fine. Also, tracking someone’s location from the posts on 5ch is relatively easy, especially in this case where ec once claimed him/herself Sio. So, D) or E) may not be the case. A) could be true, but she said that she can resume streaming on YouTube if she wants to on 24th. I personally don’t think the one who is currently protected by the police can say that. I’ll say it’s either B) or F) She didn’t talk to the police or lawyer in the first place.
>There are a number of possibilities there, but it has little to do with the central matter.
That’s true.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why people even care, why does it matter that she was shitposting and badmouthing people?

Cheating at mahjong is scummy but it's not like it's even possible to do most of the time, so she's legit most of the time at the very least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31375262
> Is this "EC"?
Unfortunately, the leak was posted on the thread where you couldn’t see either Wacchoi, IP nor ID, so no one knows who posted it. The only thing that’s certain is that the info was leaked by someone who was really close to the member(The leaker claimed that he/she got the info from his/her friend who was working with Appland), or one of the employees in Appland.
> Before, or after? How effective was this tactic?
After the info was leaked, iirc. And it happened in the summer two years ago, so you can see whether it was effective or not.
>Unfortunately, that could be anyone. Need more information to make anything of it.
Another strange thing 76 did was that he/she somehow knew that Tama would quit Idolbu 2 months before the announcement. Also, 76 somehow knew that Tama argued with Appland over Nekobu, which is a Vtuber group that’s said to be run by them in secret. But again, no one knows if 76 is the same person as ec.
> The most important thing here is understanding the cause and timing of Sio's IP being exposed.
It is really hard to tell this, but the users’ IPs were exposed by a guy who masturbated twice in the midnight of that day and came up with the idea that he would be able to find something cool from note if he checked the source code of it, because that’s what he always tried to do whenever he saved pictures in he talk online game.
What he found out was the IP of the users, including those of several celebrities, Vtubers, and Sio’s IP. So, instead of a malicious stalker or company, it was leaked by a man who somehow came up with a crazy idea, if what he claimed is true.
>Please describe the "Personalities" of 76, EC, and Sio.
Not Sio, but there are several things that are in common with ec, 76 and some of the leakers.
1)They always praise or defend Tama and slander others, even if they’re Tama/Sio’s friends.
2)They all are extraordinarily familiar with Tama/Sio’s past, such as where she was born, what she did 10 years ago, what she was doing before making debut as a Vtuber, etc...
3)Might be a weak evidence, but the way they talk are so similar that you could tell they’re the same persons without any knowledge. It has been pointed out by several people who checked their sentences.
4) They all had the information only Tama/Sio or someone around her knew.
You could say that they all are malicious stalkers looking after her, but them having confidential information make the things really weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31377121
There's no proof she did any of that shit anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>31377116
>Yes, and no, because Wacchoi is renewed every Wednesday, aside from ec part. However, the posts from Sio’s IP maintained the same Wacchoi every day in a week, and since sharing the same Wacchoi is still almost impossible, it is likely that they are the same person. Maybe it’s easier to see it for yourself. Please take a look at the red flagged IP part and ワッチョイ(Wacchoi) part in this page.
That's pretty strong evidence there.
Why do the components besides "ec" change within a single day? If you look at the 6/27 and 6/28 dates (when Sio posted during her Mahjong game). Also, if 76 is Sio, as you suspect, wouldn't that open up the possibility of someone spoofing a wacchoi?
>Those of whom appear to be her family members.
If they've been found, then that justifies her attempt to clear them early on.
>Sio’s IP was found only on 5ch and note, so it is unlikely that it had been leaked in somewhere else before.
And no IP tracers like fan websites?
>There’s a website called note where you can make money by posting your essays and columns on it. Sio often posted her essays and announcements as well. On August 14th, a guy found out that anyone could see a user’s IP from the source code of one’s page, and the rest is history.
That's not the sort of freak accident I normally hear the Note IP reveal explained as. Are you sure that's the earliest time someone could've been aware of this?
>Or ec had to share the same internet with Sio who lived in either her house or condo or whaterver.
Again, scary.
>If it were C), she could’ve just explained it to her fans and things would’ve been fine. Also, tracking someone’s location from the posts on 5ch is relatively easy, especially in this case where ec once claimed him/herself Sio. So, D) or E) may not be the case. A) could be true, but she said that she can resume streaming on YouTube if she wants to on 24th. I personally don’t think the one who is currently protected by the police can say that. I’ll say it’s either B) or F) She didn’t talk to the police or lawyer in the first place.
I skipped a step. F is possible. Has "EC" done anything iffy since the investigation was believed to have begun?
If not, they may have cut their connection to the network.
>>31377121
The implication is that she may have confessed to corporate sabotage, contract violation, and doxxing at least 1 of her former co-workers.
>>31379295
>Unfortunately, the leak was posted on the thread where you couldn’t see either Wacchoi, IP nor ID, so no one knows who posted it. The only thing that’s certain is that the info was leaked by someone who was really close to the member(The leaker claimed that he/she got the info from his/her friend who was working with Appland), or one of the employees in Appland.
That leaves it as something pretty open.
>After the info was leaked, iirc. And it happened in the summer two years ago, so you can see whether it was effective or not.
That also makes this part pretty open.
>Another strange thing 76 did was that he/she somehow knew that Tama would quit Idolbu 2 months before the announcement. Also, 76 somehow knew that Tama argued with Appland over Nekobu, which is a Vtuber group that’s said to be run by them in secret. But again, no one knows if 76 is the same person as ec.
If there isn't a clear link, 76 should be set to the side as something for the rumor mill. That could be darn near anyone.
>It is really hard to tell this, but the users’ IPs were exposed by a guy who masturbated twice in the midnight of that day and came up with the idea that he would be able to find something cool from note if he checked the source code of it, because that’s what he always tried to do whenever he saved pictures in he talk online game.
>What he found out was the IP of the users, including those of several celebrities, Vtubers, and Sio’s IP. So, instead of a malicious stalker or company, it was leaked by a man who somehow came up with a crazy idea, if what he claimed is true.
Possibly. Did he directly leak the IPs? If so, how many did he leak? If not, it's possible that he just happened to be an unexpected factor who was otherwise unimportant for the plan of the one who wanted to "detonate" his 3-month gunpowder trail.
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[Anonymous No.]

Fuck Sio and fuck SJW westerner supporting her.
And fuck retarded Japanese wota believing in her.

[Anonymous No.]

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>Not Sio, but there are several things that are in common with ec, 76 and some of the leakers.
>1)They always praise or defend Tama and slander others, even if they’re Tama/Sio’s friends.
I've nothing to say to that.
>2)They all are extraordinarily familiar with Tama/Sio’s past, such as where she was born, what she did 10 years ago, what she was doing before making debut as a Vtuber, etc..
And I take it you know of no sources which would've allowed someone to find this out? Unfortunately, given the proximity of the leaker to Tama/Sio, he may have had access to that sort of information. How much of what EC revealed was original?
>3)Might be a weak evidence, but the way they talk are so similar that you could tell they’re the same persons without any knowledge. It has been pointed out by several people who checked their sentences.
Anything stand out in particular?
>4) They all had the information only Tama/Sio or someone around her knew.
A leaker would've likely had access to that sort of information.

(So far, the most that can be said definitively is that "EC" glory-hogged by claiming to have been the leaker. EC consistently appears to have used Sio's IP, and that, knowingly (or as a natural result of EC being Sio). The earlier idol-bu leaks could've been by anyone with ties to the company, and due to contact between members being restricted and Tama being thrown out, an automatic scapegoat was created. I'm pretty sure legal action would've followed if Tama was confirmed to have been the culprit. Was there anything else done by EC that would cause Sio trouble?)