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1. When you aren’t sure what language a conversation was in. Oddly enough, you can recall it in both.

2. When you have a dream in your target language.

3. When you no longer remember what the language sounded like when you didn’t understand it. (Note: Learning a language because you like the way it sounds is a self-defeating goal.)

4. When you realize how terrible most translations are for Japanese movies, animes, books, etc.

5. When you inadvertently use the target language for reflex words such as, 「痛っ!」 or 「よいしょ」.

6. When you use the body language of the target language, such as waving a hand to beckon someone over.

7. When onomatopoeias actually start sounding like the sounds they’re supposed to represent. (Hint: They sound nothing like the actual sound, your brain has just been brain-washed.)

8. When you somehow knew the meaning of a word without ever actually having learned it (my favorite and most baffling moment).

All of these have happened to me. What about the others who've taken up Japanese(or any other) as a second language?

>> No.3111720

Source is Tae Kim's blog btw

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2009/07/31/memorable-moments-in-language-acquisition/#comment-54
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>> No.3111725

>>3111720
>Tae Kim
corean lies

>> No.3111742

>>3111739

I always cry to myself after I have a conversation of any sort.

>> No.3111739

I cried to myself after I had my first conversation in Japanese in Japan.

>> No.3111748
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This should be a Rika thread.

>> No.3111760

Reminds me of how my wife mumbles in Russian in her sleep sometimes since it's her first language. I can't even tell if she's dreaming about another man or not (´;ω;`)

>> No.3111766

I usually do 5 when playing games. But only because I think I've watched too many game playthroughs on Nicovideo.

>> No.3111779

>>3111739

That's pretty gay. Hope your not serious

>> No.3111781

None of this will ever happen to me.

>> No.3111785

>>3111760
You got a mail order bride? How's that working out?

>> No.3111790
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>>3111760

She's dreaming about Putin.

>> No.3111797

>>3111760
Enjoy having your wife leave you as soon as she gets residency and a job.

>> No.3111796

>>3111790
Could anyone blame her?

>> No.3111801

>>3111797

She was born here and she already has a job, so yeah ヽ(´ー`)ノ

>> No.3111802

>>3111717

2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8

I'm mostly in an english environment so #1 is a ways off, and #6 will also be a while because of that. everything else have happened to me. each one exciting as hell when it has.

>> No.3111834

>>3111801
Why would a woman born in an English-speaking country have Russian as her first language?

>> No.3111845

>>3111834

Strict Russian parents ( ´_ゝ`)

>> No.3111890

>>3111845
More like ignorant Russian parents.

If you emigrate to another country and have children there, you sure as hell should make sure that they speak that country's language first.

>> No.3112001

>(Note: Learning a language because you like the way it sounds is a self-defeating goal.)

I hope you are wrong!

>> No.3112011

1,5,6,7

I also have the strange moments when I know I know a word in multiple languages but I can't recall it until I use it or hear it being used.

>> No.3112012

>>3111890
There's no actual difference for a child.

>> No.3112053

A few times I've tried looking for English scans of doujinshi I've fapped to, only to realize that they were never translated in the first place.

>> No.3112104

>>3111717

Yeah, it has all happened to me, but with English. I don't even know how I ended up knowing so much. I only learned very small and formal things in school English classes.

I don't know about you guys, but I sometimes say words in English when speaking with friends and such, because that same word in Spanish just doesn't come to my mind at that moment.

>> No.3112121

>8. When you somehow knew the meaning of a word without ever actually having learned it (my favorite and most baffling moment).
That's like half of English for me.

>> No.3112144

tried to speak vietnamese but fucked up in vietnam once. spoke chinese instead. all sound the same.

>> No.3112153

>>3112144
korean sounds like gibberish to me

>> No.3112164

>>3112153
korean is gibberish

>> No.3112166

From the source blog comments:

>colasensei says

>When you start making the filler noises of your target language (Japanese for me).
>I had friends come visit me in Japan last week and they were confused by my use of “un”. They kept thinking I was saying no. The “eeeeehhhhhhhh?!” had them snorting with laughter. I also didn’t realise how often my non-Japanese boyfriend and I use Japanese words between ourselves. Honto, daijoubu, nani and nantoka have completely usurped their English equivalents.

I raged.

>> No.3112185

lol aquired bilingualism. lrn2simultaneouslanguageaquisitionasachild.

>> No.3112189

>>3112185
Sure, let me use your time machine and i'll get to it.

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>>3112166

>> No.3112207

Had a dream in German once back when i could speak it (I have long sence lost that ability sence i havnt had a need to in about 7 years).

Scary thing is, when i woke up i remembered word for word what had been said, but i didnt remember learning half of those words, and apon wakeing could even back translate the conversation into english.

>> No.3112221

>>3111717
All these with English.

>> No.3112226

>>3112207
I can always speak fluently French in my dreams. Which is strange, since I always failed my French classes during High School.

>> No.3112337

Playing eroge in Japanese.
;_;

>> No.3112344

>>3112164
moonspeak sounds like gibberish

>> No.3112354

>>3112226

I almost failed german in highschool.

>> No.3112364

Japanese is the best sounding Asian language. Chinese is too nip nong ching chong.

>> No.3113028

>>3112144
>all sound the same.
arr rook same too lololol

>> No.3113033 [DELETED] 

>>3111717
sup yo im just gunna leave dis here
> www.anuntalk.com, nun = non

>> No.3113088

Is Tae Kim American by any chance?

His posts are filled with the same idiotic glee of one who has just started learning a second language to a conversational level.

Also, I never understood why people seriously take efforts to learn all the regional accents, Kansai above all. Are people learning English to any degree taught Scottish pronounciation?

>> No.3113198

>5. When you inadvertently use the target language for reflex words such as, 「痛っ!」 or 「よいしょ」.
These aren't really landmarks. I do these because I've watched too much anime and I don't know Japanese, probably never will. Because I'm too lazy and stupid.

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