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[Anonymous No.]

So can we all agree that SA has the worst character designs and is the overall worst main Touhou game?

[Anonymous No.]

worst character designs: That's MoF
worst main Touhou game: That's IN

[Anonymous No.]

>>3071934

[Anonymous No.]

I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>we agree
I guess you are in the wrong place, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

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u mad

[Anonymous No.]

Utsuho is the touhou with the best references, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

If you paid attention to the "which Touhou games are your favorite" threads lately, PCB and SA are often the top 2 mentioned. I don't think "we all agree".

[Anonymous No.]

>/jp/
>mutual agreement

[Anonymous No.]

"can we all agree" is just an expression. Just trying to get some discussion going.

>>3071946

>worst character designs: That's MoF

It has Nitori, so no.

＞worst main Touhou game: That's IN

Explain yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

MoF is pretty universally agreed upon as the worst of the main games. SA has mediocre characters and backgrounds but the spellcards are really good.

[Anonymous No.]

nope

[Anonymous No.]

hmm since you did post armpits i'll overlook this trolling attempt anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>3071997

>MoF is pretty universally agreed upon as the worst of the main games

I don't know. Maybe I just missed it, but I never see that. I just rarely see it proclaimed to be the best.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

SA is the best, you trollin.

Especially since most of the characters are 'evil' or opposite versions of already established ones. Utsuho is Evil Reimu, Yuugi is Evil Suika, Orin is Evil Chen...etc

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Reimu comes in two flavors - NUKULAR and NON-NUKULAR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072016
Only one guy consistently champions MoF as the best Touhou game.

A tripfag we are all too familiar with.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

forgot my image

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like SA or MoF because of the way continues work. It makes it more difficult to go through and I have too much pride to play on easy. I don't like the bombs either.

I haven't been able to get through them once on normal and I've been playing them for about a month and a half now(though not religiously, off and on).

[Anonymous No.]

MoF is really fun

The dialog & art kinda sucks though except I love huge Reimu and her dopey smile and the way everyone has enormous hair

[Anonymous No.]

>Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>3072108

>Anonymous

[None !..3NackuV6 No.]

>>3072117
>>3072108
>green text

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072085
Honestly not liking the continue system is a really, really bad reason to not like those games. It's such a minor thing irrelevant to the gameplay and story.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>3072125

>reaction image

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARC/TlcVLo No.]

I got Arcueid blocked in my filter. Feels good. Its like the stupidity of the board went down 70%.

[Anonymous No.]

The only designs I dislike in MoF are Sanae's and Suwako's.

Kanako's design is awesome in my opinion.

Nitori's is great just because of how the items are supposed to make her look like a kappa.

Shizuha's and Miroriko's are some of my favorite designs. I really like the color, and the cut-out leaves and whatnot.

Music in MoF is great also.

The bomb system is alright, just took me some time to get used to.

I like MoF.

[BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl No.]

>>3072167
>Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072016
I will go ahead and proclaim that MoF is the best main touhou game in my opinion
1. the best soundtrack bar none
2. Great aesthetic (it really feels like autumn)
3. solid characters and story
4. A scoring system that is challenging and unique
5. game play if pretty even in that Kanako is harder than Sanae and the rest unlike in previous games (youmu harder than yuyuko, erin being at the same difficulty as kaguya and both of them being easier than either marisa and reimu, and remi being completely underwhelming compared to the rest of the game)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072240
>youmu harder than yuyuko

Lolwut?

>erin being at the same difficulty as kaguya

Uh... Eirin is definitely harder, especially if you're using a team that has terrible human side damage. Good luck with Astronomical Entombing.

>remi being completely underwhelming compared to the rest of the game

... even if you're only talking about difficulty as a boss, this is incredibly wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072240
Now we're trollin, hardstyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072240
I will try to fairly contest your points.

1. Matter of opinion, but I consider PCB to have the best soundtrack.
2. I concede this point to you.
3. Irrelevant
4. You're right, although I think your statement could also describe PCB and IN.
5. Personally, I think Aya is more challenging than Sanae.
6. I think the faith system is kind of bland. I understand that there are probably subtleties to it like bombing at strategic moments, but compared to PCB's border bonus and IN's master/slave system, I find it a little underwhelming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072249
My opinion towards EoSD is scewed in that it was the last one I played (exluding the fighting games and SA wasn't out) and I had beaten suwako by then. Also lol opinions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072279
Suwako is by far the easiest Extra boss though, and either way, none of the extra bosses are harder than 1ccing Lunatic EoSD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072009
>Utsuho is Evil Reimu

What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072305
I'm nowhere near Lunitic on EoSD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072313
Well, that explains a lot. All I'll say is that Remilia definitely deserves the spot as the most difficult final boss on Lunatic, followed by either Kanako or Yuyuko (Yuyuko requires more memorization to learn while Kanako has Virtue of the Wind God).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072312

[Yukito-san !zc0H41Z7mU No.]

I'll just post the text that I used in another topic a few days ago. I'd like to say though, that the gameplay and scoring system plays a much bigger part for me than characters/style.


EoSD is my favorite, I like the simple scoring system, the difficulty, the cards, the characters, the music, everything is great even though it's old.

The others follow up close, with PCB and SA almost equally behind EoSD. They both have great soundtracks and both are a blast to play. SA has unique features while PCB has the border system and great pattens. So far is has my favorite extra stage(s) too.

IN and MoF come in last. MoF simply because I dislike the whole faith scoring system, honestly dying once and fucking your score is bullshit, especially since I've been bombing less (trying to capture as many cards as I can) and MoF is a bomb friendly game. It does redeem itself by having the best OST of all the Touhou games, but still the other games are better. IN is only low at my list because I simply haven't played it much. I'm sure that with time it will shoot straight to the top with the spell card select option and awesome scoring system, but for now I think not much of it.

PoFV shares the throne with EoSD, but since the games are different I try not to put them on the same list. I just love it's multiplayer, it's so addictive. StB is also a great game, but again different so I don't really compare it with the others. I don't really play fighting games so I can't rate IaMP and SWR.
I have yet to play the pre-windows games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072278
>6. I think the faith system is kind of bland

Not >>3072240 but I like it best because it's simple and easy to manipulate and it keeps me very active during stages. Also no grazing. Ironically even though I love grazing I think it kind of fucks up scoring systems because it rewards bad things or things that are unreasonably hard to do (like PCB's huge bonus for grazing unfocused)

[Anonymous No.]

It's IN. It's so messy all around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072418
Well, the only problem I have with it is, of course, one death knocks 1/3 off, so the later you die the bigger the penalty.

I guess what also bothers me is how intangible it is. Borders can be used like a free hit (besides allowing collection below the POC), and IN's human/phantom gives you the option of either taking out slaves to generally make things easier (fewer bullets on screen), or targeting the master and using the slaves that destruct to clear a path. But the faith system is just about improving score.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3072473
Yeah I think the % death penalty is a bad design decision too, but still it's the only one I ever bother trying to score in since it has extremely few variables (EoSD is simpler but I don't play it much). I think the others would be much better if they had 1 or 2 score influences removed.

But I'm not all that big on scoring anyway, I just think MoF is the best designed one that way.

[Anonymous No.]

yes

[Anonymous No.]

Other than EoSD being my favorite by far, I like all the Touhou games about the same, but I'd have to say MoF is the worst if I had to pick, just because Aya and Sanae have boring, crappy danmaku, and for some reason level 4 is the hardest part of the game except for Kanako's very last card. The scoring and bombing are also total crap.
EoSD is my favorite because Meiling and Remilia have my favorite danmaku in the series and the scoring isn't pointlessly complicated, it's just graze this shit, grab these items, kill these spell cards, maybe occasionally use bombs for bullet cancelling.