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3058496 No.3058496 [Reply] [Original]

This is a level 5 internet alert!

I'm a week late, but I just watched ep.5: Beatrice's voice SUCKS HARD. Don't know if I can cope with this. They totally misrepresented her. The others, I can kind of get used to as even though they are mostly awful and/or miscast, they at least try to get their roles right. But this artificial deep-voice beato is too much. Ow, ow ow.

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She's get better once the dere starts.

>> No.3058502

You don't know what a huge voice range Sayaka Ohara has.

>> No.3058504
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I can't wait until the dere starts.

>> No.3058507

needs more ara-ara

>> No.3058509

It's becoming a bit of an effort to continue watching the anime.

>> No.3058511

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiLPYgNghD4

I agree with the OP. Terribad.

>> No.3058519

>>3058509
You too? We all knew (or at least most of us who weren't idiots) that the show was going to suck, but even I was expecting something a little better than this.

>> No.3058523

You guys are still watching it?
I already drop it after ep1. I am just gonna wait for the anime ost later.

>> No.3058524

Ryukishi chose her himself, so this is what he wanted Beatrice to sound.

Your class is overpowered.

>> No.3058531

>>3058496
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
>>3058509
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
>>3058511
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
>>3058523
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
>>3058519
BAWWWWWWWWWWW

Faggots, all of you.

>> No.3058544

Considering the impression she is supposed to give at that point, it fits.
Did you expect crazy cackles or looooooong vowel strings where there are none in a high pitch?

>> No.3058551

>>3058531
herp

The funny thing is, I thought Ohara Sayaka would potentiallybe one of the best casted -- boy was I wrong; while the other cast are generally poor choices they do a reasonable job at acting out their roles. But Ohara's beato is WRONG. The director or whoever obviously doesn't have a feel for the character. It might even be phoned in.

>> No.3058560

I kind of expected her to have moe voice.

>> No.3058565

>>3058560
Well, not exactly moe, but she must have playful voice.

>> No.3058567

>>3058551
Bullshit.
This is her first appearance.
Even by the VN at that specific point, she appears as a dominant, evil witch.
No other aspect shown yet.
Pitch and expression are reflected as such.
Judging already without seeing how she covers the range of Beato's expressions is utter bullshit.

>> No.3058577

>>3058551
RYUKISHI SELECTED HER.

>> No.3058580

>>3058577
Ryukishi, not so good.

>> No.3058594

Woah Ryukishi selected her time to change opinions and disregard my tastes.

>> No.3058598
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I therefore conclude that all posters here that says my VA sucks will kneel down and kiss my shoes when they hear my voice in the future when I go dere.

>> No.3058600

>>3058594
Well, the basis of your judgments are silly as it is, so being brainwashed is drastic, but for the better.

>> No.3058604

You know, I already knew it was going to suck but I still had a sliver of hope.
People don't get enough time to bond with the characters, now it's all just "LOL DAT FAT DUDE DIED" "LOL DAT BITCH DIED".
I, for one, cried like a little bitch when George asked his father on which finger Shannon had her ring. In the anime, not so much.

Anime-Battler already lost because he can't explain multiplying golden butterflies at the end of the first 'Episode'.

>> No.3058609

>>3058604
Tell me you cared for the characters after Umineko 1.

You didn't because it skimmed their personalities as well.

>> No.3058630

I don't really mind her seiyuu btw I just think it's silly to think that having a decision made by ryukishi makes it infallible.

I have little interest in the anime because it's just not really interesting, I don't think it has done anything that wrong it just doesn't have that element that makes you unable to put it down and go to work the next morning on an hour of sleep.

>> No.3058637

>>3058609
I felt really bad when Battler got all depressed, and Shannon's death made me cry.
Their deaths itself weren't that sad, but the reactions from the 4 cousins were enough, at that point.

>> No.3058639

>>This thread
>>BAAAW Beatrice's voice is not what I expected so it's automatically horrible without a shadow of doubt.

>> No.3058648

Ryukishi does not give a shit about the animu, good lord.

>> No.3058656

>>3058648
>Hasn't read the interview

>> No.3058657

>>3058604
Why could Haruhi get 7+ episodes of the same episode when Umineko can't even get 6 for 670 kilobytes of raw text. I mean, seriously, it can't be even taken seriously as a standalone anime. Just skipping most of the character introduction, the relationship between each character, why should we love these characters... okay. So they are not focusing on the characters but the story... oh wait, they are giving 1 minute build up for every moment so there isn't even a shock value when Natsuhi points the gun on Eva... AND WHY IS THE MANSION IS SO GODDAMN EMPTY AND BRIGHT

>> No.3058669

>>3058657
Anime and visual novels are different mediums.

You cannot have several episodes where nothing significant happens and expect the view to stick with the show. If you were expecting a perfect 1:1 adaption then you were too naive.

>> No.3058672

>>3058657
At least 90% people hate the Endless Eight shit. Most have stopped watching until it ends. Only the hardcore fanboys that only watch Haruhi still care enough to watch it.

>> No.3058678

The first time we see Beato in VN she is evil, mysterious and nothing gives off what a moron she actually is. Knowing Ohara, she will be able to pull of her high-pitched mode just fine when the time comes, but that will be in later episodes. Stop bawwwwing when she only had several minutes of screentime.

If there's anything anime hasn't disappointed me with, it's the voices cast.

>> No.3058683

>>3058669
Of course I was not expecting something perfect or even DECENT from DEEN, but this is a little too much for me. Why don't they just make a 12, 13 episodes long series after each episode? Or OVA? If it's any good then they can sell enough DVDs or more than enough because Umineko has a relatively large fanbase

>> No.3058685

I'm starting to hate umineko VN fans because of their idiocy. The voices are all top notch prolific voice actors who fit the part.

Don't like that they didn't spend an hour giving exposition about characters? Well go fuck yourself. It's because of idiots like you writers have to bog down the dialog and slow down the plot for retards to grasp relationship cues that they can easily pick up via visual context.

Looks like you faggots are looking for anything to complain about.

>> No.3058689

>>3058683
12?
Dude, that's fucking stretching each episode's asshole.

>> No.3058694

>>3058689
One episode for each chapter. Okay 12 might be little too much, but 10 would be definitely needed

>> No.3058699

>>3058683
Episode 5 was a good adaption.
Don't try to discuss butterflies, it's useless.

>>3058672
I watch Endless Eight, but that's because I'm not a fan and don't rage about it.

>> No.3058720

>>3058685
This has nothing to do being a fan of the VN or not.
It is a mediocre adaptation.

Also the plot isn't fresh anymore if you already know how the story will go. Thus I drop it after episode1 and rather waste time watching other show like Bakemonogatari or KNK.

Utawareromono on the other hand is a good example of a good adaptation.

>> No.3058725

her voice sounds fine except the *cackle* just ain't there

Nanjou though.....I thought of him to have a more of a....gentle voice

and Kinzo should be voiced my Jimang OH MY PRAYER

>> No.3058735

>>3058694
Like the other anon said, go fuck yourself.

>> No.3058736

so I assume as many people was displeased with the VA for Higurashi when it first aired?

>> No.3058746

>>3058683
in that case we would still be on the airport

>> No.3058752

>>3058736
Who knows, do you think they have niipa.ogg in the game?

>> No.3058761

>>3058736
herp

The funny thing is, I thought Nakahara Mai would potentiallybe one of the best casted -- boy was I wrong; while the other cast are generally poor choices they do a reasonable job at acting out their roles. But Nakahara's Rena is WRONG. The director or whoever obviously doesn't have a feel for the character. It might even be phoned in.
To be fair, when I first heard Mai's Rena voice, it hurt my ears because it's so high pitched, but it's fits her really well. Keiichi's VA sucks ass, though.

>> No.3058766

>>3058736
it's like this:

if you've read Higurashi you hated the VA
if you haven't, you probably liked it

if you've read Umineko you hate the VA
if you haven't, you probably like it

>> No.3058793

Except while Higurashi raped many important plot points and timelines making it more incomprehensible as a story, it at least DID stand up as a good standalone series. Umineko...isn't. It's really pretty bad, I'm raging at beato's voice because it's so wrong while she was the only reason I keep watchig this bad show.

>> No.3058794

I thought Beato's VA has been perfect for the role so far, and I played the game first. She captured that part of Beatrice very well, but it still remains to be seen how she can portray the cruel Beatrice, the childish Beatrice, and all the other faces of her personality.

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>> No.3058796

>>3058761
I thought all her HAUU, KAWAII, OMACHIKAERI were really passionate and convincing. The only complain I have is that Tamura really overdid her Dark Rika.

>> No.3058798

Complaining about Beato's voice with the context and words we get from her as of episode 5, is like thinking that Battler would sound 'OHOHOHOI' under any circumstance.

Actual character and moods of Beatrice have yet to show up. If she screws up when she actually starts speaking for more than a minute and different expressions are required, your whining may be taken seriously.

>> No.3058799

ITT: Opinions.

>> No.3058838

The voice fits, because Beatrice and Yuuko from xxxHolic are so similar.

>> No.3058842

THis isn't an issue with moods -- beato in ep.5 sounded like she was faking a deep voice. lol! Beato should have a higher-pitched, feminime voice that collapses into a hysterical laughter and given to long drawls. When she's being moe, she just loses the drawl.

>> No.3058852

The voice suits her, Ryukushi agreed, if you disagree you are wrong.

>> No.3058854

>>3058842
>I know the character better than Ryukishi

>> No.3058860

>>3058842
No. She shouldn't.
She is supposed to sound serious, not like she has lost her marbles and is delirious in her very first meeting.

>> No.3058865

So, OP, why we should care about your shitty opinion? Are you trying to complain till we all suck your cock and agree with you? Or do you have some higher purpose?

>> No.3058873

>>3058496
I spooged my pants at the VN Beato laugh in... episode 4, I think, when Kanon got wasted.

I so love that sound effect.

>> No.3058874

I love how you dumbasses believe your feelings and personal inclinations are valid in the least bit. Real maturity going on in this thread.

>> No.3059299

>>3058873
I was pretty sure those are the stakes laughing.

>> No.3059393

Beatrice's voice isn't all that terrible. It sounds high and mighty and it fits her.

>> No.3059425

she'll be fine.
by ep10 you'll all fall in love with her voice.
Eva has TEH ONEESAMA as VA. Battler is just right. everyone else pretty much fits right in.

>> No.3059430

I liked the casting of Daisuke Ono as Battler.
He's pretty good at contrasting a playful voice and a serious voice.

>> No.3059436

>>3059430
He was great in episode 5. He just needs to be a bit louder, I'd say.

>> No.3059536

>>3058725
>Kinzo voiced by Jimang
You just gave me 3 orgasms.

>> No.3059546

Anime is horrible why are you casuals watching it?

>> No.3059561

>>3059546
>horrible
>why are [...] casuals watching it?

answered your own question

>> No.3059571

>>3059546

Becauze I don't like reading.

>> No.3059575

>>3059571
get out.

>> No.3059577

>>3059571
/jp/ != anime

Go to /a/ if you want to discuss anime.

>> No.3059578

>>3059546
It's watchable if you aren't prone to nerd rage

>> No.3059579

>>3059575
Hey there!
Welcome to /jp/

enjoy your stay =D

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>> No.3059624

>>3059577
/a/ don't discuss anime.

>> No.3059647

>>3059624
Then what the hell do they use the board for? They are like 10x the pace of /jp/.
They cant be discussing nothing if they can post that fast.

>> No.3059660

Glad to know I am not the only one that thinks Beato's voice sounds off. I mean damn,while she's at it she should also say she's going to make my lunch,wash my laundry and orally service my dick.

I wouldnt say she sucks but DAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN woman,that doesnt match up to what I had in mind at all. With the everyone elses voice it synced up pretty fast in my mind but Beatrice is...Just...Not even close.

>> No.3059664

>>3059660
>that doesnt match up to what I had in mind at all
Then you had the wrong image in your mind. Stop blaming the voice casting.

>> No.3059706

I think you people just wanted Beatrice to sound like an old insane hag living in a house made out of various pastry and sweets. Luring innocent children for "dinner", once they start nibbling on the house's outer walls.

>> No.3059719

>>3059706
That made me think of the Hansel and Gretel doujinshi that was posted here months ago. The candy was filled with aphrodisiacs.

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Now you can't unsee (or unhear) it.

>> No.3059824

Maria ended up okay...Battler is fairly close...George works as a younger version. Thank god shanon is pretty close. Jessica is not bad.

But beato...omg awful, crazy bad.

>> No.3059832

>>3059824
>omg

>> No.3059848

>>3059832

Its ok. Just imagine it says orz

>> No.3059867

She sounds pretty good in episode 6.

>> No.3059897

ITT: retards.

>> No.3059913

>Anime-Battler already lost because he can't explain multiplying golden butterflies at the end of the first 'Episode'.

Sure is furniture in here! Stop reading the VN just so you canbe told how to think and start making up crazy, harebrained but loud theories like you're supposed to.

>> No.3060028

There is no way to judge her voice before the game between her and Battler even starts.

>> No.3060067

I HATE THE CAST
I HATE THE ANIME
I HATE EVERYTHING
HIUWFHI#HI#&UFHGIKBWHKWBDLJDB

>> No.3060083

I hope the anime gets a filthy magic ending while the VN gets the true mystery ending.

>> No.3060105

>>3060083
Both will have "power of love" ending.

>> No.3060111

>>3060083
>mystery ending
laughmanface.jpg

>> No.3060159

this thread sucks hard

>> No.3060202

This thread is exactly why /jp/ is /jp/. We have some fucking idiots when it comes to anime.

>> No.3060364

>>3058604
>Anime-Battler already lost because he can't explain multiplying golden butterflies at the end of the first 'Episode'.

The Butterflies appeared on October 26th, which is past the cutoff point for their game; He doesn't have to explain them

>> No.3060392

>>3060364
That's bullshit and DEEN just put it in for the sensation.
Battler should be able to explain everything that happens on the island. The "After 0:00"-thing is just a loophole that managed to save the anime's ass.

>> No.3060446

GOD DAMN STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN DON'T WATCH IT

>> No.3060448

>>3058496
>>>/rs/your+opinion+is+shit+and+you+should+feel+bad

>> No.3060456

VN fags and their unrealistic expectations are fucking annoying.

>> No.3060472

>>3060392
The butterflies can easily be explained. It looks like you've stopped thinking.

>> No.3060640

Poor quality raw is out on THAT SITE. If anyone still cares.

>> No.3060731

>>3060392
What about what happens in episode 2 after midnight? And I don't think that Battler getting drunk is enough to explain him seeing a huge crowd of goatmen who eat him.

>> No.3060741

>>3060640
Thanks.

>> No.3060744

>>3060731
None of that was through his perspective.

>> No.3060746

>>3060731
Well all red text only applies to October 4-5th right? In that case due to all the alcohol Battler drank, he saw Hundreds of black people as the goats. They then proceded to tear him apart.

>> No.3060757

>>3060746
Negroes spawn on the island after midnight and eat everyone? That's an original explanation.

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DOKYUN DOKYUN

>> No.3060766

>>3060757
No, they are simply waiting on boats off the coast of the island, only getting on it when it becomes Oct. 6th.

>> No.3060773

>>3060757
Why do you think Beatrice said there are no PEOPLE other than Battler on the island in Episode 4?

>> No.3060775

>>3060744
Battler was there though. None of the other supernatural scenes happen wane game-piece Battler is present.

Or if you're willing to accept that, I can simply say that the golden butterflies weren't from Battler's perspective and therefore the anime has committed no mistake.

>> No.3060778

>>3060766
Maybe they were Taiwanese refugees.

>> No.3060782

>>3060773
That's still Oct. 5th though.

>> No.3060795

It also explains the disaster. The japanese government detected the huge spike in negro population in Tokyo, as Rokkenjima is part in Tokyo's jurisdiction decided to carpet bomb the island to keep Tokyo's gene pool as pure as possible.

>> No.3060811

>>3060456
People who think that others are not allowed to voice complaints about the anime adaptation are worse.

>> No.3061005

I'll get used to her voice, I just expected it to match her laugh... Her beautiful, beautiful laugh.

>> No.3061066

Do people honestly thing anyone would bother watching Umineko it it had 10 episodes of the family chatting on the ship and airplane before getting to the island? There are a number of people who thought the show was boring after watching just the first episode.

>> No.3061080

>>3061066
I'd watch an 52 episode show about Battler getting tortured by the Seven Stakes, getting revived, tortured again and so forth, over and over again.

>> No.3061088

>>3061066
Good, it would weed them out.

>> No.3061091

>>3061080

SEXY torture.

>> No.3061113

>>3061080
See, forget your Endless 8 nonsense, this is what the public wants to see!

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I can't wait for Baat.

>> No.3061351

Beato's voice is perfect. OP probably wanted Rie loli tsundere voice or some shit.

>> No.3061391

>>3061351
I was expecting something a bit perkier, like Ami Koshimizu's Horo voice.

Instead mai wolfu is voicing that bitch Rosa. ;_;

>> No.3061452

I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT OOISHI WAS PERFECTLY CAST

>> No.3061535

>>3061391
Rosa is love.

>> No.3061537

I don't really like how they're picturing Maria in the Anime. They're fucking overdoing it on the batshit insane.

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>>3061537
UU~UU Mad?

>> No.3061616
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same va

>> No.3061660

>>3061066
That would be fine. Although, I would prefer that instead of trying to be coherent story, they just animated the most critical and anticipated scenes and fast forwearded through the rest with just flashes of what happened like you were really pressing ctrl.

>> No.3061663

>>3058524
>Ryukishi chose her himself, so this is what he wanted Beatrice to sound.

Since everyone keeps saying this, the VA has a huge voice range. Ryukishi did pick her, but the director was one one who picked the voice.

>> No.3061665

>>3061537
They've lightened up with the faces. I thought she was well portrayed in episode 5.

>> No.3061688

I thought Kihihihi was supposed to be a little creepy, but more like a kid pretending to be playing around, and the really creepy part was when she did while the corpses hit the floor.

>> No.3061697

So here's a question. How much of the animation budget was spent on Maria's emoting?

>> No.3061731

I have found the absolute goddamn perfect voice actor for Beatrice, no arguments allowed: Nina Hagen. She sounds EXACTLY the way I always imagined her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrzwifWTEM

(Okay, she's in a wrong language but who cares.)

>> No.3061752

>>3061731
you are an idiot.

>> No.3061769

I have never understood why Japanese VAs always have to do those squeaky helium chipmunk voices instead of using their full vocal range like real actors.

>> No.3061824

>>3061769
Moe! Moeteruuuuuu

>> No.3061966

>>3061769
because otakus are pedos

>> No.3061976

>>3061731
You should make a thread about this.

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