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302816 No.302816 [Reply] [Original]

Oh, hi, /touhou/, I see we got a number of visual novels in english now. I see on my Start Menu:

Tsukihime (non voiced)
Wind a breath of heart
Narcisu
Planetarian
Clannad (Voiced using PS2 source)
Utawarerumono (Voiced using PS2 source)
Fate/stay night (Fate and UBW routes voiced using PS2 source)
Ever 17

There's also Crescendo... that some people say it's also a visual novel but I guess it's more a hgame at heart.

Am I missing something? Perhaps a Tsukihime voice patch (now that would be something...)? I think Kanon had a partial translation somewhere (but it didn't actually finish any route so I dunno).

>> No.302847

Does Melty Blood count as a Visual Novel or is that just FIGHTAN? Also, Gadget Trial.

>> No.302849

http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Category:Completed_Visual_Novel_Projects

>> No.302876

Being a visual novel doesn't mean it isn't an h-game. Those are different types of classification.

And isn't Utawarerumono a SRPG?

Also, torrent.

>> No.302878

What is this difference between hgames and visual novels you speak of?

>> No.302882

http://shii.org/translate/

>> No.302919

http://www.shii.org/translate/

...And you can also check...

http://vndb.org/

>> No.304890

I prefer the term "Dating Sim".

>> No.304923

>>302816
wait... where is True Love??? now go back to the interweb and complete the set.

>> No.305050

The correct term used by the Japanese themselves is "eroge" (shortened vocalization of 'erotic game'). H game is also an acceptable alternative.

Visual Novel is a more neutral term made up by Westerners.

Both real eroge and eroe without the ero (VN's without sex scenes) are essentially the same -- same themes, same plots, same approach, same goals.

Of the games listed by the OP, only Tsukihime can be said to be "great", but that's only because of the legendary fandom mystique which surrounds it -- as a game, the TypeMoon stuff budget-art, convoluted storylines that don't make much sense and lack-luster H scenes. The mystque comes from the fact that TypeMoon started off as a doujin circle that made it big.

All the other ones listed are mediocre, short, or both. A harsh reality of the American VN translation market is that only budget crap gets purchased and translated. If you want to play the best in the media, you have to use machine translations or learn Japanese. Somethign I strongly suggests or else you will never really know awesome the best of the industry is really like.

>> No.305054

>>305050
ever17 is great, and thats an eroless VN

>> No.305068

>>302816
>Am I missing something?

OMGWTFOTL

>> No.305073

>>302816
Phantom of Inferno
One ~To the Radiant Season~
Kagetsu Tohya
Yume Miru Kusuri

Those are the only ones I can name off the top of my head that you should read. If you like short novels you can try Red Shift too.

>> No.305118
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305118

Tsyukiss. Required playing for the eroge player IMO.

Yoppi FTW.

>> No.305151

where can i download these games?
most of the links posted here are just for the translation patch

>> No.305175

>>305050

HAHAHA OH WOW

W-AIT? YOU'RE SERIOUS RIGHT?

_AND MY CAPS BROCKEN THANK YOU:

>> No.305195

>>305118
Damn I want to play this game but I can't read moonrunes nor is ATLAS a good choice. DAMN YOU JAPAN DAMN YOU

>> No.305198

>>305050
>>only Tsukihime can be said to be "great"
AHAHAHA NO, Tsukihime, Clannad, FSN and Ever17 are considered among the best in Japan no matter what you think.
I don't know what you mean by "great", probably lots of ero with high quality CGs, but those one are among the most liked and worthy of any top10 even for someone who played a fuckload lots of eroge.
Also Utawarerumono, Kana and Planetarian are very well liked as well.

>> No.305217

>>305050 Of the games listed by the OP, only Tsukihime can be said to be "great", but that's only because of the legendary fandom mystique which surrounds it
LOL
HALO IS THE GREATEST FPS REVER

>> No.305218
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305218

>>305195

Yoppi: "Anon...you won't play my game...of course...ku ku ku...you won't play my game afterall...how sad..."

>> No.305222

>>305050
>Of the games listed by the OP, only Tsukihime can be said to be "great"
You have got to be joking me. Clannad alone is highly considered as one of the greatest visual novels to this date. Don't get me wrong, Tsukihime is good, but you have either not played any of the novels in OP's list or you're talking shit out of your mouth.

>> No.305223

>>305050

I facepalm'd so hard I got brain cancer

>> No.305226

>>305218

Give me a link and i'll play her, if you know what i mean.

>> No.305229

>>305218
I played Tsuyokiss, it was good but stop hyping it like it's the best thing ever, it's not.
Also Yoppi's route was pretty disappointing, Kani's route is where the awesome is.

>> No.305227

>>305198
CLannad is shit

>> No.305234

>>305227

No anon, YOU are the shit.

>> No.305241

>>305227
You mean I DIDN'T LIKE CLANNAD though you probably didn't even play it.

>> No.305274

>>305241

Although, I can't blame him. There are alot of spammed clannad threads, enough to make anything think it's shit.

>> No.305284

>>305274

You mean Touhou. Clannad gets a few threads since the split between /a/ and /jp/

>> No.305315

Nobody ever bothers to mention Radical Dreamers, which is probably the oldest english translated VN (aside from really old hgames), released on the SNES. I thought it was really good.

>> No.305385

>>305315
I'm thinking about playing it for a while now, is it really worth it? Chrono Trigger kind of blew my mind.

>> No.305565

>>305050

Most of this is pure faggotry, but

>>A harsh reality of the American VN translation market is that only budget crap gets purchased and translated.

is true. 9 out of 10 of the translated visual novels out there are fan works, simply because between licensing costs and the actual time involved it's more economic to translate a simple stupid porn game that doesn't have to sell much to turn a profit than to do something like F/SN or Clannad, which between the costs and the fact that there's no proven market for VNs that are more than cheap wank material would be a HUGE risk.

>> No.305665

There is no market for VNs outside Japan. Those little few consumers are typically net savvy and smart enough to claim their unlimited free supply.

>> No.305733

>>305665
This is all too true. If I recall correctly from one of Peter Payne's convention panels, 3000 units is the target for their game sales. That's the point at which they've returned enough to warrant the project.

So lets assume all 3000 copies are sold directly through J-List/JAST USA for 50 USD. That's a total revenue of 150,000 USD. To turn a 5% profit, that leaves the budget for the game at 142,185 USD. A 20% profit leaves the budget at 125,000. And that money needs to cover licensing fees, translators, programmers, package design, advertising, printing, etc. So it's no wonder that only shit with the lowest possible licensing fees will get published here. It just wouldn't be economical to license Little Busters, or To Heart 2, or anything like that.

>> No.306365

To summarize most of the content of this thread:

Internet. Serious business.
Learn moonrunes to play eroge, faggot.
Amerikkka LOL.

Also, Ace Attorney is a visual novel, I think. While it definitely doesn't PLAY like one, it's definitely listed somewhere.

>> No.306415

>>305315

Wow, I remember that...Great old school VN.

>> No.306428

>>305385
There's no time travel, and you're playing the cast from Chrono Cross. It's enjoyable, but every route is like a completely different plot and they don't fit into any big picture.
I personally liked it better than Chrono Cross itself. There are even a few almost-ecchi references about Kid.

>> No.307316

>>305226

Shameless bump for this post. I've looked everywhere.

>> No.307631

>>305050
A little late but from what I've read FSN, Clannad and Ever17 are considered among the best VNs, right? And there's another one called Family Project that will be released soon that is supposed to be amazing.

>> No.307645

>>307631
Tsukihime is better than Fate/Stay Night, especially if you only consider the Far Side routes.

>> No.307672

>>307645
Tsukihime is honestly not that amazing, the only real great part is Hisui's route but even then you spent most of the route in a bed.
FSN is a little bland and the "slice of life" portions are pretty boring but it's pretty good, I like them both but I do find them overrated.

>> No.307735

>>306428
Um, no. Of the over 40 playable characters of Chrono Cross, the only two who appear are Kid and Lynx. Serge and Magil are completely different characters, though they share the same name as their alterego counterparts.

>>305050
No. Visual Novels (commonly abbreviated as NVL in Japan) are games where the text display field takes up most of the screen, whereas Adventure games (ADV) are games where the text field is only displayed in the lower portion of the screen.

>> No.307752

>>307645
It's only too obvious you haven't played Heaven's Feel.

>> No.307779

>>307752
>>It's only too obvious you haven't played UBW.
It's what people were saying before it was translated.

>> No.307784

>>306365
Fuck yes, Ace Attorney

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>>307752
I can't understand moonrunes and I don't feel like learning how to, so no. I am expecting the Sakura version of the pic, but I'm still waiting for the translation before making any judgments.

>> No.307805

>>307752
>It's only too obvious you haven't played FATE
>It's only too obvious you haven't played UBW
>It's only too obvious you haven't played HF

I wonder if after all three are released they'll all suddenly seem higher in quality.

>> No.308299

Yopi is the reason why you play that game.

CLANNAD sucks. Not as bad as many other games, so it's really just mediocre. It's mediocre crap from a major publisher so it has more of mainstream appeal in the Japanese gamers, but it can't in a million years to be considered to be within the top 5 or even the top 10 of most real eroge players' libraries. The hard truth remains: If you want epic an brick-shitting, you need to learn how to like ATLAS translations.

>> No.308401

>>308299
You are the shit and Yoppi's route is really overrated, only good for the shock factor.
Let me see, you probably are a retard who think that School Days is a masterpiece because it's "DARK" and has lot of sex scenes, right? Retard.

>> No.308412

Yo-Jin-Bo was awesome.

>> No.309903

>>308401

Yopi's route owns because she's incredibly hot and causes drama. School Days is good ebcause it has lots of sex THAT IMPPACTS THE STORY, many different endings and routes, and lots of drama. You're probably a faggot from hongfire who gets off to those horrible loli games. Sexy, healthy grils with large breasts are probably like the anti-christ to you.

>> No.310166

>>305073
I didn't think I'll ever say this but Yume Miru Kusuri has way to much H-scenes.
It's fucking annoying to have the plot interrupted every 20 minutes by a little slut who wants it up the ass in order to get to some fairyland or shit, like I hadn't got enough fap material on my PC.

>> No.310234

>>309903
No, Yoppi's route isn't bad but it's short and it doesn't have the great mix of character development, drama and comedy that routes like Hime or Kinu have.
School Days has really shitty character dynamics and is really badly written overall. It's playable in a LOOK AT THE TRAINWRECK kind of way but nobody should take it seriously, not only that but that faggot Makoto makes the game totally unfappable.
I like my girl healthy too but you sound like the type of retard who think any eroges that don't have a sex scene every 5 minutes, a main character who is a rapist and a ZOMG DARK storyline is a failure, you should understand some people want something different from their eroge/galge so stop trying to impose your ideas on others.

>> No.310286

Hey, what was that game on the DS that was sort of like a visual novel, sort of like an adventure game?
Hotel something or other?

>> No.310801

>>308299
>If you want epic an brick-shitting

Protip: Clannad wasnt made for "epic brick-shitting". Learn to know genre.

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