/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth it getting a Japanese bed
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089Q7SWR3/?coliid=I1DHGLLO7X92M6&colid=S7KQK60P1CW7&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200076
why

[Anonymous No.]

do you already have a bed?

[Anonymous No.]

Won't insects and spiders keep crawling on you? Mice and rrrats will hide under the blanket

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200617
not if you get a pet snake

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200596
I just recently had to throw it out. Now I have to get another and thought I might try this

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200715
get a hammock

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200841
I dont want a hammock

[Anonymous No.]

There is a reason why western style beds are more popular in japan now, futon aren't comfortable. They are a nice novelty while staying in a ryokan but thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200617
close your door so mice don't come in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30208417
I was actually wondering about if western beds were becoming the majority in Japan. I havent done any research into it or anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>30208417
The reason is that they have less tatami rooms nows.
Tatami->futon
Normal floor->bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>30210511
so with tatami they are just as comfortable, or you were just giving an explanation of why it changed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
If you want to sleep on the floor, just do it. Don't need to buy all the expensive stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
The reason why Japanese use beds like that is because they have no fucking space in their homes so whenever they are done sleeping they pick the bed up and store it to make use of the space.
Don't think it's because of some sort of mythical japanese comfort materials or some shit, it's just because space in Japan is extremely expensive so they have to make use of it wisely.

So just go buy a proper bed

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>>30211257
hmhm

[Anonymous No.]

>>30208417
sounds like a plus to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>30218980
Yeah Im also thinking that if you like firmer bedding, wouldnt this be a plus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
just get a regular bed you fucking weeb, get a metal frame queen-sized bed.

[Anonymous No.]

if you're not a back sleeper you will basically die

i bought one but couldn't deal with it so now it just sits on top of an actual mattress

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
No, you belong to te streets

[Anonymous No.]

if you're a back sleeper then go for it.
I fucking hated my bed so much because it gave me the comfort of sleeping sideways fucking up my muscle.

I transferred to a small and stiff bed. Shit feels so much better now and my lower back doesnt feel fucked up.

Also i like cleaning things easier. Dirt and trash can go underneath your bed. Having a futon eliminates that and actually makes you clean your room to avoid mouses and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30209544
Sorry, I didnt mean they were more popular. I meant becoming more popular, I have no idea on the actual stats over there.

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to save space just get a fold out sofa bed, I've been using one for the last year and its great if you have a small room. They sell with foam bases now rather than the shitty old metal frame and springs holding the base. The space savings is the only upside to a futon.

[Anonymous No.]

No.

In order to comfortably sleep on a futon, you'll need tatami mats underneath it. Unless you live in a traditional Japanese house or are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars for tatami mats or a specialty bed frame, then don't bother.

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>>30222540
doesn't your breathing get strange lying on your back?

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>>30200030
why does this shit cost 300$

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200617
>not having temple guards and maidens

[Anonymous No.]

the futon is kinder on my back than a western style mattress

[Anonymous No.]

I was thinking of buying one or two tatami mats and putting a futon on top of mats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30225072
What Ive been considering is getting a futon with a tatami. They cost about the same as a mattress with a frame. I like firmer beds and sleep on my side, though Ive been slowly getting used to sleeping on my back. Only problem is as soon as I fall asleep while on my back I immediately wake up as if im falling. Just giving this information since I cant go out and test these things for myself and find out what I would actually want

Very poor timing

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>>30252821
I feel like my swallow reflex engages and I stop breathing and panic if i try to fall asleep on my back

[Anonymous No.]

>>30252910
Its difficult for me to recollect what is causing me to wake up, it just feels like falling after the fact

[Anonymous No.]

I'm actually looking to furnish a room in near future. It's bare concrete now, I was thinking of making a tatami section. Is this a good idea nowdays or will it get old super fast and I better get simple laminate or tiles or some carpeting like a boomer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>30252910
Might be sleep apnea.

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>>30248458
Is it really? Why is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
if it was good, japs wouldn't be buying western beds.

[Anonymous No.]

a cheap futon on carpet was perfectly comfortable for me and being able to fold it up and fit it in the passenger seat of my car along with the comforter and pillow was very nice.

[Anonymous No.]

Is a tatami mat redundant if you have carpet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>30248458
get a hard spring mattress

[Anonymous No.]

>>30268535
perhaps it's particular to my circumstance, but I benefit from a firmer surface
>>30286865 is an alternative but the futon performs the same and is portable so I don't ever need to use more than a passenger vehicle to move

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200030
Insects and animals sleep on the floor, humans sleep on elevated beds, if you wanna be a weeb then buy the bed but other than satisfying your weeb heart futons have no pro

[Anonymous No.]

>>30308907
>elevated beds

[Anonymous No.]

I very nearly bought one a few years ago because it was cheaper than a mattress and bedframe, but I ended up not doing it, saving longer and got a cheap mattress at Ikea.
I feel like I dodged a bullet since they're apparently bad if you don't have tatami flooring, require a good amount of maintenance, and they really only come in one size whereas I benefit from my bed being a double.

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>>30200030
Bed, probably not unless you are a back sleeper and like a firm bed. The comforters however I can vouch for. At least if you live in a cold area or for winter. You will never go cold in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30252910
I've had the same issue, usually I just prop up my sleeping position with a couple pillows underneath your mattress or whatever you're sleeping on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30325087
You mean extra pillows under your head to raise your head?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't sleep on hard floor

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>>30200030
Depends how your house is. If your floor is clean enough and doesn't get any bugs, then yes.

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>>30226262
Only if you're a fat pig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30211092
This. I recently disassembled mine an have a thin mattress on the floor. Works wonders for me, I wake up very well rested, with spread shoulders and perfectly fixed spine.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a 9x9 room that's currently carpeted but in kind if rough shape. Convince me to spend $1000 on tatami instead of $300 on new carpet. Is there a noticable difference between the two when sleeping on a futon?

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>>30200030
this little guy is gonna crawl on you while you sleep.

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>>30383363
FUCK those fuckers

[Nomad No.]

>>30226262
Only if you're a fat bastard

[Anonymous No.]

>>30211257
Why was this deleted?

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>>30226262
I literally only sleep lying on my back.

[Anonymous No.]

if you have carpet
no
you are just inviting whatever bugs live in your caroet onto you bed

hard wood
very much yes
comfy as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>30383561

[Anonymous No.]

I sleep on a stearns and foster twinxl mattress from ~1967. I don't understand why people change mattresses. If the side sags some, rotate and flip it. You can do that forever.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone used a kotatsu before?
Is it as cozy as the anime characters make it out to be? I'd try making one myself but I'm scared of fire

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>>30221866
how are you supposed to sleep?

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>>30429517
Yeah, they are pointless. You only burn your legs and it takes up a bunch of floor space. Also good back posture is impossible with maximizing heat exposure. A dumb as fuck Jap contraption built out of neccesity and outdated unneeded efficiency.

Just upgrade your heat pump if you have forced air.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30423675
This is OP. Still haven't made a decision. I live in southern California so I wasn't too concerned with mold becoming a problem, but, I have carpets

Is the dream over for me?

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>>30430348
>You only burn your legs
You're doing it wrong if you're burning your legs
>it takes up a bunch of floor space
It's supposed to be an alternative for a coffee table. If you're worried about real estate, then don't buy any furniture at all.
>good back posture is impossible
It's called a chair, or propping it up against a wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30200841
>Having your spine bent for 8+ hours

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>>30383363
Those guys are bros, though. They feed on bugs and other insects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30383363
Worse, Japan has these motherfuckers

[Anonymous No.]

>>30383363
>>30502092
This
Harmless to humans, but eats all the other bugs

[Anonymous No.]

>>30506281
No. One of those fuckers bit mom and we had to take her the ER and it hurts like hell.
And also sleeping on the floor exposes you to cockroaches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30508086
It's very rare for them to be aggressive and even be able to pierce human skin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutigera_coleoptrata

[Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU No.]

No, don't get memed into sleeping on the floor. It's a slippery slope from tatami mats to sleeping in cubes and eating bugs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30506281
they can eat the bugs far away from me

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>>30221416
what even is the point of the bed? why not just put the mattress on the floor?
>>30223764
there's also the fact that you can move it easily and you don't have to spend that much money on it.
>>30366765
>thin mattress
I've been looking into getting something like this, what type of thing did you go for?

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>>30383363
can't they just crawl up the edge of the bed?

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>>30383363
Not if they're not in this continent.

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>>30200617
that's definitely not ogey with me

[Anonymous No.]

surprised no one has really mentioned the advantage of space saving
i guess you dont live in urban shoebox studios
having a futon means my bedroom is useful for things other than sleeping. I like the little ritual of getting it out and putting it away too
i dont know about creepy crawlies because there arent many where i live but it works best on a wooden floor

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>>30200030
How about like a tatami bed? You can always not use a mattress if you want to go full weeb.

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>>30556928
Depending on what you need the space for you could get more space with a bed if you can put things under it, that's one thing the bed is better at than sleeping on the floor.