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How thin is the line between lolicon(western definition) and pedophile?

2D lolis are made in the likeness of 3D lolis. People are attracted to them for the same reasons. They're cute, small and pure.

Are lolicons just pedophiles in denial?

>> No.3016310

Probably. Anyway "lolicons" like idealized 2D lolis and pedophiles just like raping kids.

>> No.3016314

Are FPS fanatics murderers in denial?

>> No.3016319

>>3016306
Yes. I've always blatantly considered myself a pedophile for enjoying lolicon.

That being said, pedophiles =/= child molesters. Pedophilia is just a fetish, nothing more.

>> No.3016318

Reported for stale trolling

>> No.3016322

>>3016314

That's a horrible analogy and you know it.

>> No.3016324

3D can be pretty shitty. I fap to it a lot, but I still feel bad about it and I haven't looked at any 3D in two days but I'll quit eventually, also all the 3D I saw was healthy and on /s/.

>> No.3016327

>>3016314
That example makes no sense. Unless you're one of those retards who thinks pedophile = child molester.

>> No.3016335

I've seen CP posted occasionally, and I can honestly say I've never been attracted to it. Loli just has a different appeal, and it doesn't make me feel like I'm on the same level as rapists and murderers either.

>> No.3016336

Reported for masterful trolls trying to led this thread into 250+ posts of triple distiled retardation.

>> No.3016343

lolicon is just 2d, pedos are people who go rape little children.
Know the difference.

>> No.3016346

>>3016343
>pedos are people who go rape little children
I hope you're not serious.

>> No.3016347

2D lolis don't look much like 3D lolis. There's an even greater disparity between the two than there is between anime women and 3D women (which are already pretty different).

>> No.3016349 [DELETED] 

>>3016318

I'm a lolicon myself.I wouldn't have had that picture if I wasn't.

It's just that I think. Loli is the only thing we don't directly relate to it's real life counterpart. If someone faps to Yaoi, we consider them gay. If someone likes big tits a drawing, they like it in real life too. Yet with loli, it's a situation where people always say, "lolicon=/=pedophile".
It's just that I think. Lolicon is the only thing we looked

>> No.3016356

>>3016318

I'm a lolicon myself.I wouldn't have had that picture if I wasn't.

It's just that I think. Loli is the only thing we don't directly relate to it's real life counterpart. If someone faps to Yaoi, we consider them gay. If someone likes big tits a drawing, they like it in real life too. Yet with loli, it's a situation where people always say, "lolicon=/=pedophile".

>> No.3016360

Apparently, a pedophile is someone who is even slightly attracted to anyone under the age of 18, regardless of their appearance and mental faculties.

Society agreed, don't bother them about it.

>> No.3016358

I think this thread has the potential. It should now be hijacked and made into a Rydia/Porom thread. Those two are awesomely hot lolis.

>> No.3016362

sure whatever, post more lolis

>> No.3016373

>>3016356
Now son we might tolerate directionless, pedophiles, tripfags that believe they own the board, silly hats, frilly dresses, Types, stupid games with lots of text and porn that sometimes it's not even worth a fap, idolfags, online games of various kinds that are fucking stupid along with the people that play them, the spam of the day and other assorted bullshit but we won't stand for liars like you.

>> No.3016384

>>3016356
>Loli is the only thing we don't directly relate to it's real life counterpart.
Who is this "we"? I don't really relate anything 2D to real life, except to note how superior it is. I'll fap to pretty much anything 2D but most of it I wouldn't find attractive in real life.

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3016395

Hima FF4 lolis are the best.

>> No.3016396

>>3016384

Yes, you do. Whether you think you do or not. You wouldn't like it to it if you didn't relate it to real life standards of beauty. They're idealistic, but they're still based on real life standards.

>> No.3016397

>>3016356

>
It's just that I think. Loli is the only thing we don't directly relate to it's real life counterpart. If someone faps to Yaoi, we consider them gay. If someone likes big tits a drawing, they like it in real life too. Yet with loli, it's a situation where people always say, "lolicon=/=pedophile".

What you fap to has nothing to do with your actions in real life, it's simple as that. I fap to futa but I would never fucking touch a shemale in real life, likewise I already fapped to shota but I would never touch a boy in reality, it's disgusting just to think about it. Incest (sister / mother / etc) is awesome in doujins, horrible when you picture yourself in it.

Fetishes =! your sexual orientation.

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3016412

DAT ASS

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3016426

Rydia or Porom? Such a difficult choice...

>> No.3016432

dunno, I like 2D whether it's loli or healthy but despise 3D whether it's loli or healthy.

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>> No.3016451

>>3016397

This.

>> No.3016455

Hey /jp/ recommend me some good 2D loli videos to fap to.

>> No.3016466

I find a few girls in real life genuinely attractive, but they don't all correspond to certain 2D ideals nor are they the disgusting whorebag tanning parlor-addicts that healthy guys are apparently supposed to like.

>> No.3016474

>>3016396
Stop projecting. See >>3016397.

>> No.3016476

>>3016397

You're missing the point. I didn't say anything about going out and having sex with little girls.

The fact that it's real may deter you, but that doesn't mean your not actually attracted to it.You like shota/traps because you're attracted to their femininity + the forbiddeness associated with them having a cock. If it were the same way for 3D you would be attracted to it just the same.

>> No.3016480

>>3016455

The few loli hentai vids out there are over-censored and shitty. Kinda of annoying that for the shota lovers there are 3 fucking videos from the Boku no Pico series while there is nothing on the same quality level for loli.

>> No.3016483

>>3016480
There's an incoming anime. But they'll probably had titymonster tits to the "loli", so it's more "ok".

>> No.3016484

We already know that extreme manga fans can develop their obsessions to the point where they no longer have any interest in real people. So, we should encourage pedophiles to prefer lolicon manga to the point where they no longer want to pursue any real-life sexual contact with children.

A natural, market-based solution to the pedophile problem, and much more feasible than trying to force every single pedo out there into therapy (which has never "cured" pedophilia) or prison (which only increases their burden on society).

>> No.3016486

>>3016480
I know of at one uncensored one that was pretty good, but I can't recall the name.

>> No.3016494

>>3016480

I got off to the second one, even though I didn't and still don't think of myself as gay at all.

>> No.3016505

>>3016476

I didn't. When I look at 2D futa I get hard, when I look at 3D futa I feel disgusted. When I look at 2D loli I get hard, when I look at little girls I find them cute, in the same sense that I would find a dog or cat cute. It doesn't mean I want to fuck her or even have the desire to.

There is no forbiddenes, I like 2D futa because I have a fucking penis, I can relate to it better if I could somehow be part of the action.

If 3D looked and felt EXACTLY THE SAME as 2D as you mention, we wouldn't call it 3D. It's not an issue.

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>> No.3016557

>>3016476

Also, incest was a horrible example. The only reason you don't want to fuck your family in real life is due to the Westermarck Effect. When that isn't present(like with incest doujins) you want to fuck them pretty hard.

>>3016505

Most real life traps/shemales are fucking ugly. If you find a pretty one in real life like you find in anime, you will probably like it just as much.

At the most, you've conditioned your mind to hate it simply because it's real. Which doesn't mean you don't like it. It's just that it doesn't mess with your conscience as much when it's 2D.

>> No.3016559

>>3016557
Why would liking a trap mess with my conscience?

>> No.3016568 [DELETED] 

>>3016559

Sexual insecurity.

>> No.3016572

>>3016397

Yeah, it's true. Ginormous basketball-size tits look great in anime. They're goddamn fucking gross in real life.

>> No.3016573

>>3016559

Being insecure with your sexuality, for one.

>> No.3016574

7"

>> No.3016582 [DELETED] 

>>3016572

That's only because of the limitations of real life. If you could get the prefect proportions and non-saggy tits like in anime, it would be just as hot.

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3016578

>this thread

>> No.3016586 [DELETED] 

>>3016582

That's only because of the limitations of real life. If you could get the prefect proportions and nice tits like in anime, it would be just as hot.

>> No.3016584

>>3016572
I humbly disagree.

>> No.3016589

>>3016572

That's only because of the limitations of real life. If you could get the prefect proportions and nice tits like in anime, it would be just as hot.

>> No.3016611

>>3016557

>It's just that it doesn't mess with your conscience as much when it's 2D.

Isn't that the whole point of 2D? Isn't it better for example a pedo to quietly fap to his lolis instead of looking for CP or actually molesting children? It's not like people can control what makes their dicks hard.

But one can never admit that. Imagine if a pedo does it, even if he will never touches a child in his life he would still be looked down and his life would be crushed for something he can't even control.

And for the sake of that, I will keep arguing, Fetishes =! sexual orientation.

The more people believe that the better, even if it isn't what I actually believe.

I need some sleep.

>> No.3016623

I fap hard to drawn 10 year olds, but real ones don't get anything out of me. I'm not into 3D.

>> No.3016642

>>3016589

Actually, not even perfect proportions are enough to guarantee that it would look good in reality. A lot of what makes anime designs appealing is that they can regularly violate the laws of 3D perspective all they freaking want. It's why cel-shaded 3D animation still can't compare to hand-drawn animation.

Reality can't ever live up to fantasy, because in the end it must follow inviolate rules. It's the whole reason why people resort to fantasy in the first place.

>> No.3016646

>>3016584
>I humbly disagree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6BzxlXB8E0
So fucking hot, amirite?

>> No.3016667

I can't get off on 3D loli. It's like trying to force myself to eat unripened fruit.

2D loli though, that works fine.

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