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http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.msg317#msg317
>My basic plan was to have three rounds of voting. The first round would simply be nominations, no actual voting, in which anyone could throw out any names they wanted so we could get a comprehensive list (so those "better Black Cyc titles" had better show up). FYI, everything mentioned in this thread is nominated by default (yes, that means you can get something on the list by posting here right now).

>The second round would be preliminary voting. I'd limit all users to three votes (either upvotes or downvotes) which can be made on anything in the list, and once the results are relatively stable I'll choose a set of finalists (probably around ten or twelve).

>Then the third round would be the actual poll, but this time the results will be blind to everyone outside Amaterasu staff until the poll is finished. That way we won't get as many people hopping on the top two bandwagons like last time. However, if the top two or three are too close together, I may choose to have a tie-breaker poll afterwards.

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Ergo if you want anything translated there, you better mention it there. It's a lot different now than last time in my opinion.

>> No.2998576

vote GSS

>> No.2998587

>>2998576
No, I would like for /jp/ to play something that is actually good.

>> No.2998593

Lots of good nominations. This is rough.

>> No.2998597

I'll vote for Ruitomo because I heard the trap protagonist managed to fuck the girls without them knowing he was a guy afterall.

>> No.2998605

>>2998576
GSS is good but not great. There are much better games without translations.

>> No.2998611

Just wait and see Hoshizora no Memoria be the ones chosen to be translated.
I don't even know why it's there but it seems to be pretty popular with most of the posters in that thread.
It was cute but fairly forgettable, there are lot of better eroge, even if you want only moe.

>> No.2998655

Man, a bunch of the 'Unlikely because of length, difficulty, or quality' I really want to see. MuvLuv, Hello World, RuiTomo, I/O. Hmm...

>> No.2998656

>>2998597
What, no. The girl he fucks finds out he's a guy. It would be pretty difficult to have a trap fuck a girl without them finding out they're being penetrated by a penis. How are you even thinking that would work?

>> No.2998663

>>2998597
how does that work?

>> No.2998670

>>2998597
That sounds stupid.

>> No.2998673

OFFICIAL I/O VOTE RALLY POSTING

Info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I/O_(visual_novel)
http://vndb.org/v96

Synopsis:
Writer and Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel)


April 26th, 2032 A.D. - Megalopolis Tokyo - 00:12 in the morning
A total lunar eclipse occurs for the first time in 3 years. Even though it's supposed to be a simple astronomical phenomenon, it soon sets off a series of unexpected events. Unexplainable mysteries, terrorist incidents, and network crime surge as if in unison. The truth mixes with lies, as if the world is awake but still sleeping.

Route A - Hinata, a youth who has lost his sister and himself .
Route B - Ishtar, a freelance programmer and leader of a hacker team.
Route C - Ishtar, but seems a bit different from the Ishtar in Route B....
Route D - He, a man completely shrouded in mystery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDE1_T0usM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRsPOmyTO6g
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=6331

>> No.2998681

>>2998673
It's not as good as most of the eroge in that list you know.

>> No.2998682

Baldr, Himawari, Muv Luv, Rewrite (even if it's not even out yet).

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>>2998605
That doesn't mean I don't want to play it still.

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2998691

>>2998673
>Writer and Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel)
Awesome.

>> No.2998715

I second this anon

>> No.2998723
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2998723

Lots of good titles there, but personaly I'm going to vote for baldr sky. Gregory will come to preach you his teachings if you dont.

>> No.2998726

Swan Song is gonna get translated, just accept that already.

>> No.2998733

>>2998691
>>2998673
You guys are doing this again, hyping some VNs you don't know shit about just because it has a cool title or synopsis.
There's a reason it's not popular or critically acclaimed at all you know.
Enjoy your new Chaos;Head if it gets translated.

>> No.2998743

>>2998733
Family Project is popular and critically acclaimed.
Family Project is shit.
Your logic is shit.

>> No.2998746

>>2998743
Except for one thing, Family Project isn't shit at all.

>> No.2998747

>>2998733

I, for one, would welcome another Chaos;Head.

>> No.2998749

>>2998733
Still better than overhyped shit like Kirakira or Family Project

>> No.2998752

>>2998656
>>2998663
>>2998670

The Golden Boy manga deals with this if you guys are interested enough.

>> No.2998754

The thing about Baldr Sky is, you can't just translate Dive 1. If they translate Dive 1, will they commit to translating Dive 2 as well?

>> No.2998756

http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/05/17/doujin-game-himawari/

>> No.2998761

>>2998749
Not really, both of them are very good if you like their genre.
Vote Saihate no Ima if you want a plot intensive eroge full of weird shits, at least it will be good;

>> No.2998773

>>2998761

>all the dialogue is presented using a blog-like interface.

Interesting...

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2998776

I'd like to see Swan Song translated, I played it ages ago and it's still pretty much remained my favorite eroge.

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2998778

I for one will be supporting Suigetsu.

>> No.2998791

GSS seems really intriguing based on the information I've seen post here, I'll most likely vote for it.

>> No.2998795

I'll be voting for Saihate no Ima, since it will most likely take me years to learn how to read it

>> No.2998799

It doesn't matter what gets translated, /jp/ will call it shit regardless.

>> No.2998807

himawari is cute and short but can't really compare against most of the mentioned titles of the same genre

yu-no would be by suggestion. It was one of the earliest vns I've ever read and it still holds a special place or I/O since I'm guessing /jp/ will love the story. There is also muv-luv which can get FAR more attention than any of those titles but there are many games, total script to be translated would be incredibly long and there is so much picture editing that the poor editor would hate life in the end. Also the engine was supposedly a bitch to hack

>> No.2998810

>>2998799
Sadly, this.

>> No.2998821

I'll be voting for something cute. I'm sick of serious business.

>> No.2998830

>>2998807
I guess he should go for something short after those 2 long projects. I liked that review of Himawari someone posted above.

>> No.2998854

>>2998821
Vote for the Little Witch game then.

>> No.2998893
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My not very interesting opinion on these eroge, at least those I played:

Swan Song 10/10: Probably one of my favorite eroge, I can't find any fault except maybe the true end that is a little weak.
A true character driven story and a joy to read.

Himawari 9.5/10: Honestly I like it as much as Swan Song but I have to give some demerit points for the first route that isn't on par with the rest and the lack of CGs.
Extremely fun and easy to read, it can do pretty much everything very well, be it moe, humor or drama.
The second and third routes, Aqua's story, form one of the most perfect story I've seen in an eroge.

Suigetsu 9/10: May be my nostalgia faggotry speaking since it's one of the first moonspeak eroge I played years ago but I love it, a great cast and a very interesting story.
And YUKI, one of the first character I really went moe over.

Saihate no Ima 9/10: This one is strange, probably one of the weirdest eroge I played. The story is simple at first focusing on a group of childhood friend but it become far more complicated over time.
It's similar to Cross Channel in a way, with far less perversity and even more introspection and philosophical stuffs.
But it's always very interesting and some scenes in it are extremely memorable.

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Hello, World 9/10: Probably my favorite Nitroplus eroge, it's a story that really go crescendo starting as a normal moe galge and ending with the end of the world as we know it.
Very entertaining and extremely long, it's very fun especially on the first playthrough.

Ruitomo 9/10: Another pretty good one, some of the best chemistry among a cast I've seen in an eroge and a pretty witty script, very fun to play through and Tomo is an awesome protagonist.

Sekien no Inganock 8.5/10: Beautiful eroge with great art and very good writing. I'm not the biggest fan of Liar-soft but this one is my favorite. It really manages to create a great setting.
One of the flaw would be the same that every Liar-soft eroge, the way the voice disappear after a while, I can understand not voicing anything but only voicing thing partially is pretty jarring to me.

That's it for those I really liked, of course I would like to see Muv-Luv translated too but it's not very interesting without Alternative, GSS had some good scenes but overall I found it kinda dull, Little Witch Romanesque was cute and Katahane isn't bad at all.

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2998980

Vote for Waha!

>> No.2998996

Anyone translating Togainu no Chi yet?

If not, someone should suggest it.

>> No.2999015

>>2998893
>>2998915
Cool opinion, Asceai. I'll make sure to vote for Swan Song.

>> No.2999024

>>2999015
Not Asceai but yeah do that.

>> No.2999035

I'll be happy whatever he translates.

Which made me wonder how different a poll with multiple choices vs a poll with only one choice would look. It would probably make the game liked by most people win, while not being the favorite of most people. Hard to say if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.

>> No.2999055

Honestly rather than doing a poll he should play the games himself and translate what he likes.
Though I only think this because I'm confident that anyone who play Swan Song can only love it.

>> No.2999075

>>2999055
You could say that the polls help him decide what to play and see if it's worth it.
He read Cross Channel because of the poll and swore to translate it if it was the last thing he did.

>> No.2999086

What the vn with the girl with the messy hair?

>> No.2999116

>>2998915
You haven't played Yu-No fellow anon? I'm really interested to know any opinion about it. in before "it's shit"

>> No.2999117

>>2999086
Amagami, but that game is PS2 exclusive.

>> No.2999131

Does this mean that Ixrec is confident that he will be done with Cross Channel very soon?
There's still 3 weeks of the plot left.

>> No.2999135

>>2999116
I haven't, I plan to do so soon though.
I'll make some threads about it here when I'll get to it.

>> No.2999160

>>2999117
yes... that's right. damn.

>> No.2999164

>>2999131
I though that about 3/5ths of it are already released?
And general estimates are about two months.

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2999166

tonight's the night

>> No.2999183

>nobody mentioning Pygmalion
;_;

>> No.2999193

>>2999166
No, fuck you /m/. You won't win this time no matter what you try.

>> No.2999200

>>2999183
Shut up about it. It's an above-average game with some significant flaws, not worth translating above all these other games.

>> No.2999241

>>2999135
That'd be certainly great. The only thing I know about it (besides being totally awesome) are the reviews of the Sage Saturn version, and it is one of the longest games in existence. Oh and it's written by the same guy who wrote EVE Burst Error, which I dearly love.

>> No.2999266

>>2998754
Do want

>> No.2999277

>>2999117
Surely there's a way to emulate it, right? Please?

>> No.2999297

>>2999131
He's going at a pretty steady pace:

CCC Set (Weeks 3 and 4): 120/125 (96%) * 2 scripts in this set are not used but will be counted as finished.

Looks like week four will probably be finished this weekend or soon after.

>> No.2999346

Vote for Shuffle please.

>> No.2999353

>>2999277
Obviously. I often play PS2 VNs. The only trouble I often run into is trying to get the sound running properly.

>> No.2999377

I don't get it. Are Narcissu 2 and 3 shit? Ixrec could translate them in a couple of weeks and then move back onto a bigger project.

Other than that, the ones I'm most interested in are I/O, Saihate no IMA, Himawari and Swan Song.

>> No.2999397

Guys, no Gore Screaming Show. Looks shit. Try convincing the fag over at Dark Translations to do it.

Also, what's the point in going for MuvLuv when we've got Demonbane coming out soon anyway? No need for two lengthy mecha VNs releasing simultaneously.

>> No.2999418

I wonder if anybody would ever translate something by little witch.
I at least love the art in their games, and having some sort of gameplay is always refreshing.

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>>2999117
It was never meant to be...

>> No.2999523

Has there been any release dates for Rewrite or Type Moon's new VNs yet?

I'm obviously expecting TakaJun/Yandere to do one of the TM games (presumably Mahōtsukai no Yoru unless Girls' Work comes out first) and I'm really hoping Ixrec will translate Rewrite.

>> No.2999855

>>2999826
It would be pretty unwieldy, and I'd imagine extraction/insertion would be more annoying. Factor in the non-ero, and the odds aren't looking good for it.

>> No.2999882

>>2999855
but it's heartwarming moe

>> No.2999883

>>2999117
you can still translate ps2 games. it would require alot more hacking then a pc game would but still very doable and it would probably run very easily on the ps2 emulator.

>> No.2999928

I would prefer they actually pick something they want to translate the whole voting thing doesn't sound like it would work becuase what if they end up with a vn the translators don't even like? what are the odds of them ever finishing it?

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2999988

Waha!

>> No.3000036

I recommend I/O.

>> No.3000065

>>2999928
Then Ixrec probably won't translated it, and maybe look at the next one on the list. It looks like he goes through the VN before actually starting translation. And from what I understand, he's still relatively new to the VN scene. So these things are more to help him discover good titles to translate.

>> No.3000404

This thread still alive?

>> No.3000413

>>2999928
>The qualifications for whether specific titles can make it as a candidate for the final vote are:
>1. Ixrec (our lead translator)'s impression of the game (requires him to play or at least try the game himself)

>> No.3000483

>>2999397
MuvLuv has mecha, yes. But it's not the main point of the game.

>> No.3000677

>>3000483
This. MuvLuv is more than a mecha VN. If you liked KimiNozo, you'll love MuvLuv Extra. It's a great slice of life with really nice characters. And this is coming from someone who thinks that Unlimited and Alternative are fucking better than Extra.

And yeah, I'm going for MuvLuv. There are games there that I want to see translated as mush as it, like Swan Song, but this is the only project that I think it'd be able to finish MuvLuv.

>> No.3000748

>>3000677
I played Extra with a lot of disdain, thinking "when does it end, when does it end" so I could start Unlimited.

Maybe I should replay it more slowly and enjoy it. And try to catch more time-space anomalies. Like the self moving shoe.

>> No.3000783

I'll most likely vote Swan Song or Himawari.

You're all dreaming if you think MuvLuv is getting translated. I wouldn't mind some of the N+ shit, but considering the Jast situation.....

>> No.3000797

I thought there would be a lot more votes from Saihate no Ima, from all of the moonspeakers who find it so difficult to read

>> No.3000803

>>2998562
Anyone supporting MuvLuv is a faggot /m/ viral advertiser. We want Ixrec to translate actual good games, sorry.

wrong thread earlier

>> No.3000822

>>3000803

This. Only liberal newfags and cross-board terrorists will vote for MuvLuv. They want to undermine true /jp/ers, who are the only people that can really appreciate VNs, by having shit translated instead of quality stories.

>> No.3000833

>>3000822
I can't even tell if you're trolling or not. Good job, bro.

>> No.3000834

>>3000822
I want both Muv Luv and Swan Song translated.

Equally.

>> No.3000852

I want Amagami to be translated.

>> No.3000856

>>3000797
I'm voting for it.

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3001086

My vote, since Muvluv is out of the question with the whole engine thing.

>> No.3001577

How about he translate all of them?

>> No.3001634

>>2998576
go back to gurochan

>> No.3002334

I wonder when they are actually posting the poll.

>> No.3003832

Come on guys, why don't we all just vote for I/O? It's obviously /jp/'s kind of game and if Ixrec doesn't do it it'll probably never get translated.

>> No.3003849

>>3001634
Gore Screaming Show isn't really about the guro H scenes.

It's actually a lot more slice of life-y than you might expect.

>> No.3003850

>>3003832
I don't vote for it because I don't like Romeo Tanaka.

>> No.3003858

Also, I want to see Saihate no Ima translated because I know that I'll never be able to read that otherwise. And Ixrec likes a challenge anyway.

>> No.3003965

What about Oretsuba? That should be a challenge for him and I hear it's very good.

>> No.3004006

>>3003965
Navel, will probably be translated by Mangagamers.

>> No.3004088

>>2998996
http://yaoiforever.rikkaidai.net/forums/index.php?board=3.0

>> No.3004114

>>3003850
Hmm, that's like saying you don't like Ryukishi07.
>>3003858
Same. Sounds pretty interesting and complex dialogue/text makes pretty much the entire game enjoyable.

>> No.3004132

>>3004114
Tanaka is shit. Ryukishi makes some entertaining stories but he's still a shit writer.

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>>3004132
Your taste is shit, do something about it.

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And THIS is the reason why you have to vote for Saihate no Ima.

>> No.3004358

Himawari is obviously best choice.
Cute design, very good ratings, a loli as main girl. What else can you ask for?

>> No.3004371

>>3004358
Voices?

>> No.3004390

>>3003855
What's the link to that iM@S translation project anyway?

>> No.3004402

>>3004358
>very good ratings
hurr

>> No.3004404

>>3004390
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Idolmaster_SP

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3004412

This game from that nomination thread looks interesting.

>> No.3004448

>>3004412
It should, Tsukihime ripped it off.

>> No.3004571

>>3004402
He is probably thinking of Erogamescape.

>> No.3004762

>>3004358
I was previously considering that too but it's almost twice as long as Swan Song (SS being slightly shorter than Cross†Channel).
If we want something long I/O's probably a better a pick as it's unlikely anyone else would choose to translate it. Swan Song sounds good for a story that isn't over-long and people don't seem to have any complaints with it.
I wish I knew Saihate no Ima's text length so I could choose between that and Swan Song.

>> No.3004793

>>3004762
>I wish I knew Saihate no Ima's text length so I could choose between that and Swan Song.
http://notazsite.hp.infoseek.co.jp/main/soft/size.html puts it at 2.27MB

>> No.3004794

>>3004762
Saihate no Ima has a little more than 2.0 m if I remember correctly, about the same as Himawari.
But text length doesn't necessarily indicate the length of the game or difficulty of the translation.
For example it took me about 3 days to finish Himawari, that's because the game is very easy to read and flow very well, the translation would be quick too.
Saihate no Ima took me 2 weeks, and I was playing several hours every days, that's how difficult it was.

>> No.3004838

>>3004794
Damn, that makes it hard to decide. I really enjoy the narration, dialogue, plot, etc. in Cross†Channel. Is it similar? I enjoy cc because it just never seems to get boring.
Also, would Swan Song be really quick to translate?

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3004842

what about this game? it has twincest

>> No.3004859

>>3004794
Is Saihate even more difficult than Ruitomo?

>> No.3004864

>>3004838
Yeah Ima has similar witty dialogues, though Shinobu the main character is completely different compared to Taichi, he isn't a pervert for one.
Otherwise it goes even deeper in the psyche of the characters than Cross Channel, if you liked this then you'll love Saihate no Ima.

The text of Swan Song isn't particularly difficult but the writing style is beautiful and would be hard to transcribe well in english.
The game itself is FULL of long and heavy monologues, it's basically structured like a theatrical play.

>> No.3004866

>>3004842
/jp/ actually likes their VNs to have a good story. Not cliches that generally include a crappy story. But she looks like a loli so maybe.

>> No.3004867

>>3004859
Yes.

>>3004842
Swan Song does too.

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3004895

>>3004866
i don't know about the plot, but i always liked the cgs in this game

>> No.3004947

>>3004866
>>/jp/ actually likes their VNs to have a good story. Not cliches that generally include a crappy story.

You seem to have missed the dozens of Rance threads the past month or so.

>> No.3004953

>>3004947
Rance isn't a VN, it's a game.
In a game the gameplay is always the most important thing, Rance has a good gameplay and is kinda addictive, that's why it's popular.

>> No.3004959

>>3004947
Rance is a strategy game, it's not even a VN. It doesn't have to have a strong story. Neither does Touhou.

>> No.3004969

If Rance is a game and not a VN, then why isn't it in /v/ where it belongs?

>> No.3004975

>>3004947
Rance is on the extreme end of excellent gameplay. I think heavy plot or characterization will just ruin the fast-paced gameplay of it. Most Alicesoft eroges are like that; it attract gamers more than readers.

Never seen proper balance between gameplay and narrative, except from established Japan or Western RPG genre (not eroges). I hope Baldr series can prove me wrong.

>> No.3004979

>>3004969
>If Touhou is a game and not a VN, then why was /jp/ created for it?

>> No.3004982

>>3004953
>Rance
>good gameplay
Pick one.

>> No.3004988

>>3004979
/jp/ was created for touhou+vn's

>> No.3004996

>>3004979

Touhou has piles of fan books, games, and music.

Rance does not.

>> No.3005006

>>3004988
Rance is an ero-game, falls under /jp/s jurisdiction. It is however, shit.

>> No.3005030

>>3005006
It's also a 2D game and /v/ only likes 3D games.

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>> No.3005638

Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song Swan Song.

>> No.3005652

OFFICIAL I/O VOTE RALLY THREAD IOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOI

Info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I/O_(visual_novel)
http://vndb.org/v96

Synopsis:
Writer and Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel)


April 26th, 2032 A.D. - Megalopolis Tokyo - 00:12 in the morning
A total lunar eclipse occurs for the first time in 3 years. Even though it's supposed to be a simple astronomical phenomenon, it soon sets off a series of unexpected events. Unexplainable mysteries, terrorist incidents, and network crime surge as if in unison. The truth mixes with lies, as if the world is awake but still sleeping.

Route A - Hinata, a youth who has lost his sister and himself .
Route B - Ishtar, a freelance programmer and leader of a hacker team.
Route C - Ishtar, but seems a bit different from the Ishtar in Route B....
Route D - He, a man completely shrouded in mystery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDE1_T0usM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRsPOmyTO6g
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=6331

>> No.3005671

>>3005652
Find me a download link and then we'll talk. I've been searching for this one but can't find it.

>> No.3005688

>>3005671
I assume they'll translate the PC port, but I can't find anyone uploading it to MU and the like.

>> No.3005697

>>3005652
>Writer and Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel)

You've sold me on it.

>> No.3005866

Hm, I think I'll just vote for I/O anyway. It's either that or Saihate no Ima. It would be easier to decide if people could find some info proving one better than the other or something.

>> No.3005902

>>3005866
That's rather difficult. They're different, and good in different ways. People who like one won't necessarily like the other. That said, if you really like NUMBERS:
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=6331
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=10180

>> No.3005914

>>3005866
>>3005697
Guys, before you vote I/O, take into account how low profile the game is. These EGS links give you some kind of picture.
PS2 game
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=6331

PC port
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=11059

Sure, the game might be good, but I don't think it's worth it to vote for such an under-the-radar game when there are so many more highly regarded classics on that list that we have yet to get our hands on.

>> No.3005949

>>3004143
>>3004145
>>3004152
>>3004154
>>3004158
>>3004161
>>3004165
>>3004167
>>3004173
>>3004176
You make a compelling argument.

>> No.3005969

>>3005902
I'm more interested in information about what makes each game good. Then I can make an educated decision based on my interests.
Saying it like this probably sounds stupid but: if one is more like Cross Channel than the other I'd vote for it.
>>3005914
Isn't your logic slightly backwards? Just because a game is more popular doesn't mean it's better, right? And the more popular ones are more likely to get translation projects / officially localised in the future anyway.

Ixrec's a talented translator and both are games we likely won't ever see translated if he doesn't do them due to their complexity.

>> No.3005984

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDE1_T0usM
Is it just me or is I/O's opening song commonly used... not sure for what? I feel like I've heard it loads of times.

>> No.3006278

>>3005969
>Just because a game is more popular doesn't mean it's better, right?
What I mean is that a game that has both quality and recognition should be prioritized over games that are good but are of a lower profile. I am not saying that anything that is more popular is better.

>And the more popular ones are more likely to get translation projects / officially localised in the future anyway.
Using this logic, we will end up waiting even more years before we see the greatest the visual novel genre has to offer. You seem to have a lot of faith in the fan translation community and official localizers, which I believe is extremely unfounded.

We have fan translators picking up games like Wanko to Kurasou, Tears to Tiara, and various sex romp titles (Nephrinn, I'm looking at you). On the other hand, we do have fan translations for a few high profile and arguably quality games like FSN and Clannad. But those games are few and far in between. The truth is, translators choose to translate what they like, which doesn't necessarily entail titles that have quality or acclaim.

(cont.)

>> No.3006283 [DELETED] 

>>3006278
>>3005969
Official localization companies are even worse, but have been improving in very recent times, but I don't find it cause to be overly optimistic. JAST has come out into the open about the possibility of censorship in their future games, which may affect their choice of titles. For that matter, the only thing keeping them relevant at this point are the Nitro+ titles. They haven't made any other deals we know of or have any other games of value in their pipeline. MangaGamer shows extreme promise, but suffers many problems I'm sure you're well aware of. I personally have more faith that MG might get some good titles in the future, but I am not holding my breath that they will get even a few of the titles on that list. EvoSpace's comments in IRC posted on the other thread just about confirms that they won't be getting some the extremely high profile games any time soon.
"[16:40] <EvoSpace> nothing that big like August or Type-moon yet thou
[16:40] <EvoSpace> about translating their games into English"

So what we are left with is to depend on Ixrec, a willing and dedicated translator, to take up the task of translating what has been deemed to be of high quality by both the Japanese and the multilingual English community. If anyone can be trusted in this volatile fanbase, he is it.

>> No.3006302

>>3006278
>>3005969
(cont.)

Official localization companies are even worse, but have been improving in very recent times, but I don't find it cause to be overly optimistic. JAST has come out into the open about the possibility of censorship in their future games, which may affect their choice of titles. For that matter, the only thing keeping them relevant at this point are the Nitro+ titles. They haven't made any other deals we know of or have any other games of value in their pipeline. MangaGamer shows extreme promise, but suffers many problems I'm sure you're well aware of. I personally have more faith that MG might get some good titles in the future, but I am not holding my breath that they will get even a few of the titles on that list. EvoSpace's comments in IRC posted on the other thread just about confirms that they won't be getting some the extremely high profile games any time soon.

"[16:40] <EvoSpace> nothing that big like August or Type-moon yet thou
[16:40] <EvoSpace> about translating their games into English"

So what we are left with is to depend on Ixrec, a willing and dedicated translator, to take up the task of translating what has been deemed to be of high quality by both the Japanese and the multilingual English community. If anyone can be trusted in this volatile fanbase, he is it.

>> No.3006323

But why does a VN being higher profile make it more worthy of translation?

>> No.3006327

>>3006323
It will appeal to an even wider audience probably.

>> No.3006328

>>3005969
>Saying it like this probably sounds stupid but: if one is more like Cross Channel than the other I'd vote for it.
In that case, you probably want Saihate no Ima.

Ixrec should actually play the whole thing before deciding if he wants to translate it, though, because it's going to require an unusual amount of work. From that standpoint, I/O might be the better choice.

But why is it down to Saihate and I/O anyway? There's other good games on that list.

>> No.3006343

>>3006302
>nothing that big like August or Type-moon yet thou

The thing is that those companies are just about unique (maybe add Leaf to that) as the eroge companies capable of selling >100,000 copies of a title. It's obvious that those two would be out.

Fairly well known (but not ridiculously popular) companies like liar-soft, purple software, cyc, light etc. might be more within their grasp.

>> No.3006348

>>3005688
http://www.sharedb.info/index.php/q-I/O/?range=all

I could make a megaupload/torrent if someone can point out which Share hash(es) to download. "(一般ゲーム)[080829][アスガルド] I/O -ディレクターズカット- (iso rr3%)" looks like it might be it for the PC port, but I'm not good enough at dealing with Japanese to know for sure.

>> No.3006362

>>3006348
That's the one.

>> No.3006377

>>3006362
Adding the triggers. Should I make a torrent or do you really need a mu?

Don't expect anything right away though, considering the size of it.

>> No.3006526

>>3006323
Because it is better in my mind to prioritize the classics over other games that are good, but are less well known.

You will probably say that classic doesn't necessarily mean the game is good. And I agree, that is sometimes the case. I'm sure many a Japanese fan would consider the original Da Capo game to be a "classic", but I found it to be nothing special. However, there are games that any fan should be able to say they have played simply because it is high profile or well regarded. We have the benefit of having well regarded and high profile games on the list, so attracting lower quality generic stuff like Da Capo isn't that much of an issue.

Fans of a genre should be able to say that they have played the classics or the extremely popular titles. Imagine a JRPG fan who says they have never played Final Fantasy or an anime fan who says they have never watched Evangelion. Even if you think those titles are complete shit, you owe it to yourself as a fan to at least expose yourself to them.

>> No.3006540

>>3006323
Unfortunately for us Japanese illiterate, we are forced to depend on the opinions of others in a choice situation like this one. Since we cannot play the original games, we have no choice but to put our trust in things like Japanese ratings, English reviews, and opinions from the multilingual fans. Basing quality on the opinions of others is of course extremely flawed, but there is really nothing else we can do until we study Japanese to a high enough level to be able to actually play the original games.

When a game has few ratings and few people giving their opinion on it, there is greater cause for skepticism as to how good the game really is simply because the sample size of people who actually played the game is much smaller. When a game has over 1000 ratings on EGS and still maintains a high 70s or 80+ rating, it is much safer to trust that the game is of better quality than that of a game with 100 ratings and a similar rating. Again, I am basing quality on the opinions of others since monolinguals can't form opinions on their own.

>> No.3007039

>>3006348
So, how goes that I/O download?

>> No.3007056

>>3007039
Every piece found. A grand total of 6 megabytes downloaded. I said not to expect anything soon.

I'll leave it on overnight and it'll probably make good progress. It'll still probably take at least a full day. I'll post a torrent somewhere; either in a new post, in this thread on the ghost board, or maybe just on Ixrec's forum.

>> No.3007274

Looks like someone put up some more suggestions - Killer Queen, 3days, and France Shoujo sound like interesting stuffs

>> No.3007396

>>3007056
Sounds good, man. I'll be waiting patiently.

>> No.3008256

Bumping for I/O.

>> No.3008269

Honestly till someone write a review of I/O I won't vote for it.
It could be good but it could also be a dud.
Compared to Swan Song, Himawari or Ruitomo that seem to be universally liked, no point in risking this.

>> No.3008515

>>3008256
Part 3&4 are done.
Part 1: 414/1000
Part 2: 20/1000
Not currently downloading from anyone. Hopefully a connection will start soon.

>> No.3008674
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3008674

>>3007274
Wait, Secret Game: Killer Queen (the remake) or just Killer Queen (the original)? Because even though my waifu didn't get a route in it, I personally found the original doujin game to be overall better.

>> No.3008689

>>3008674
I don't think it's decided at this point. What is it about the remake that makes it so inferior though? Doesn't it actually add more stuff?

>> No.3008893

>>3008689
They contain different stuff. The original doujin game chapters aren't in the remake, the story and characters have been changed quite a bit.

>> No.3009072

Swan Song

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3009220

Oh god. Please advise.

I've had this problem before. Occasionally the download craps out on the conversion when the file is done, so it tries to redownload and just repeatedly gives "data block corrupted" errors. Does anyone who knows more about Share know of a way to fix this so I can get a working copy of the file?

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>> No.3009580

>>3009220
http://bbs.chiisai.net/download/kareha.pl/1181851671/

>> No.3009629

Nobody has suggested Kusarihime yet? Aaw.

>> No.3009662

>>3009580
Just did 'Check and Recover'. Because of the error I currently have 953/954 downloaded. Error checking did not find anything on what I have downloaded. Share automatically checks for errors whenever that occurs, which is why it has anything to redownload in the first place, so this isn't surprising.

Does this mean I have bad sectors, or what? And wouldn't that also mean that every time Share redownloads the piece, it tries and fails to write it on the exact same sector?

>> No.3009662,1 [INTERNAL] 

choices, choices.

>> No.3009662,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>3009220 here
see >>3015451
I can't get it. Nothing is making it work. The thread I just linked has downloads for what I was able to get, if anyone wants 3 out of the 4 parts of I/O.

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