learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

I'm willing to spend money on some books to learn japanese. Anyone know of any good books? I've studied already, but I'm trying to get something in paper form for studying!

[Anonymous No.]

Ask Ponpo-kun.

[Joker No.]

Genki I+II - Integrated Elementary Japanese Course (PDF, MP3)

Of course, you'll need it in paper form.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is Ponpo-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966517
A resident tripfag.

He doesn't show up all that often nowadays (or he's been lurking more or posting anonymously).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966500
>>2966531
Idiotic tripfag talking about himself.

No, no one gives a shit about you.

[Anonymous No.]

In before heisig, the one and only way to study japanese and achieve literacy in under 6 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966560
If that really is ponpo, then it's fucking pathetic, almost as bad as KoG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966591
No, I am not ponpo. What an insult. I've never used a tripcode.

It's like it's impossible to give level-headed information to newfags (in a sage post, no less) without people suspecting some bizarre ulterior motive out of you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966623
But ponpo doesn't know Japanese, why the fuck would you drop his name like that? Despite the fact that he's a total moron, that is irrelevant to the case here.

Mentioning him like that was completely fucking random.

>newfags
Ah, nevermind. It's a retard we're dealing with here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966651
The problem is, I wasn't >>2966500

I'm >>2966531

Not same person, so why do you keep assuming that?

As for newfag, does it matter? This is actually the first time I bothered using that term--because I do believe the OP may be a newcomer and not just your usual troll trying to infuriate people with a /lang/ thread. Normally I'd say "newfriend", but ponpo claimed to popularize the -friend suffix, so I avoided it this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966685
>but ponpo claimed to popularize the -friend suffix
What. That was Cirno, back on /a/.

Cirno coined and popularized -friend, ZUN!bar popularized -bro. Everyone knows this.

Ponpo, why are you such a liar and an attention whore?

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Only KoG would mention KoG. Quit talking to yourself, you annoying child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966731
While only KoG mentions KoG in almost all situations, he is the staple of samefriending in /jp/. I believe it was a valid comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966715
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/1958852#p1959056

Here's your proof that ponpo claimed "friend" was his gimmick, my memory isn't perfect anyway, so at that time I mistook him as saying "the whole -friend thing is mine".

Now stop trolling already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966759
Oh, the ", friend." thing, not -friend suffix.

Still, what an attention whore, claiming manners of speech like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Remembering the Kanji

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't Cirno start the whole "tripfriend" thing but as far as I remember he doesn't slap the -friend suffix onto every single word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966810
Yeah, he coined "tripfriend" only.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

It's such a common thing to use, though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966869
Slut.

[bloodynose !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>2966531
That's me, I still post. Also >>2966500 isn't me but that is a pretty random name drop.

Anyway I didn't claim to popularize NEWFRIEND and garbage like that, just adding friend to the end of sentences on /jp/ instead of bro or whatever.

>>2966651
>total moron

Derp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966869
Pygma-chan......................

[Anonymous No.]

"friend" is fucking retarded and only trolls use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968907
How is it trolling.
Friend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968849
Yes, I know you're still here Ponpo-kun. I meant you just don't post as often as back when you were Klein, thank goodness.

[bloodynose !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>2968922
I'm all for placing myself in the bottom tier, but can people at least have some base to their insults? I get that it's 4chan and everyone loves being an anonymous badass troll and everything, but I fail to see how most of /jp/ has a much better way of posting. Unless of course you like the awful trolling that makes up 75% of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

Reported for tripfag masturbation bullshit.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

This is the best learning Japanese thread ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968932
Are you seriously upset no one likes or gives a crap about you? It's 4chan, get used to it.

Pitiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968932
Take it easy, friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968932

I'm not going to give praise, you whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968932
i didnt read the thread but i just want to pop in and say you are a faggot

have a nice day

[Anonymous No.]

too many gaijin wannabes wanting to learn japanese. sorry! we are full. learn something else.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

leave ponpo alone you meanbutts

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968987
Forgot your sage, Mr. >>2968979 and >>2968966

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

This is a bad thread because it exposes some rather uncomfortable truths about the nature of /jp/'s tripfriend population.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968998
How can you be a gaijin wannabe and not know Japanese? I don't think you thought that through.

[2968922 No.]

>>2968932
Actually, I hated ponpo but kind of liked Klein, which made me feel confused when I found that they were the same person.

And now I'm indifferent to bloodynose.

Sorry for giving undue attention to tripfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop making yourself look important, stupid tripfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969018
Jones you are worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck every single tripfag in /jp/. FUCK YOU.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping to piss off tripfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969048
Some do. Just because you, some no name, and Jones, an awful poster, circle jerk in the archive, doesn't mean you're any better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2968932
u mad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969065
Sup ponpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969048
Shut the fuck up faggot. Fuck that ponpo shithead too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969069
Sup jones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969072
Sup sion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969065
>Some do.
>implying someone likes that attenttion-whoring tripfag
Good thing I have him and all other tripfags ITT filtered now, including the ones I never saw before.

[Stoned Anonymous !XUUanJpkos No.]

>>2966495

Get two books for kanji:

Heisig Remembering the Kanji I
Heisig Remembering the Kanji III

and then spend the rest of your money on native-language manga and DVDs and music. Grind 10,000 hours of listening, grind the kanji EVERYDAY, grind 10,000 new sentences in the next year.

Immersion is key. Do everything in Japanese. Even if you don't get it at first, in a few months you'll know more than you do now and it won't be so scary.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, /jp/ I'm wanting to learn Latin. I'm willing to spend some money on books and such, and I've already bought Wheelock's, but is there anything else that can help me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969065
Hi Ponpo. 'Some people' aren't posting in this thread, lol

[Anonymous No.]

As long as trip / namefags type properly and don't flood, they are all better than of the awful, /a/ reject, reaction-face-image posting population that makes up 99% of /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese: The Spoken Language, if you actually use the tapes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969091
Hi ZUN!bar

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969092

[Anonymous No.]

If you see a tripfag quote their name and SAGE THAT SHIT. If they try to post as Anonymous and defend themselves CALL THAT BITCH OUT. Don't let those faggots post freely on our board.

ANONYMOUS IS LEGION
NEVAR FORGIVE
NEVAR FORGET

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969092

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969092
All tripfags type properly and don't flood because they care about their 'reputation' on a board. And the ones that act like retards are basically the same.
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969110
Better to have a name and be afraid of looking like a shit head than post 40 times anonymously in a thread trolling and pretending to be like multiple people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969110
Except fot Sion, of course. Sion is the only 'true' tripfag on this board. And the only one I will never filter.

[Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo No.]

>>2969092
u mad

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>2969121

Sup Jonesy.

[Anonymous No.]

sion is the best because he says what we're all thinking, but with pictures

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969118
Sup ponpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969122
There he is! Hail to the king of /jp/!

[bloodynose !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>2969131
ヽ(　ﾟ∀ﾟ)人(ﾟ∀ﾟ　)ﾉ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969125
sup Suigin

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

sup currybutt

[Anonymous No.]

Best thread on /jp/ right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969150
Fuck off and stop shitting up our board tripfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969158
shut the f**k up tripfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969165
xD

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[Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo No.]

>>2969175
>Haruhi1994 !JimREGmAW6

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2969090
Agh, sorry, I don't remember which textbooks I used to learn Latin. They were actually pretty good, and it's a shame I was such a terrible student at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

HAVE A NAKED SAKUYA

its me, im arc

[Anonymous No.]

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*SHOTS TURD IN UR FACE*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969175
Haruhi1994 for mod

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969179
Fuck off faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

I FUCKED THIS THREAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969196
How did it feel?

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2969090
ECCE ROMANI, SON

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is evidence that all posters on /jp/, Anonymous and tripfag alike, enjoy acting like idiots and pulling /b/ shit in general. I don't deny that I enjoy it as well; I just felt this should be pointed out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969209
I think everyone enjoys doing dumb shit. As long as it doesn't happen too often and is contained to a single thread every few weeks, I don't really mind.

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Anyone else who took Latin as a kid: do you remember stories about some guy Caecilius (?) in the first semester's book?
I think it ended with Pompeii.
They moved on to Britain in the second book, and from there elsewhere.

This is really bugging me now.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread has been requested 1 times now.

ARCHIVE THIS SHIIIIT XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969223
Was this it?

[Anonymous No.]

>Thanks for your request.
>It has been added to our database and the thread will be archived as soon as enough request for that thread have been made.
>This thread has been requested 2 times now.
Just a couple more guys!

[Anonymous No.]

I THINK I'M LEARNING JAPANESE
I THINK I'M LEARNING JAPANESE
I REALLY THINK SO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969209
Does /b/ really take itself this seriously, though? There seems to be some genuine anger over some REALLY pointless bullshit in here, not just trolling.

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2969238
No, I'm pretty sure I didn't learn Latin from Mein Kampf.
Good try, though.

Sorry, Anonymous, but people who react to that sort of thing are subhuman ^_~

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969272
>Anonymous Jewnes
>Talking about subhuman people

[Anonymous No.]

BUMP FOR ARCHIVE REQUESTS!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969261
FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!!

NOW I HAVE THAT STUPID SONG STUCK IN MY HEAD.....

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Aww, you're such an excellent troll! Maybe if you post more pictures of Nazis and various bits of Nazi propaganda, you'll make me upset... is that the idea here?
I feel sorry for you. You should know by now that all you're going to accomplish that way is make a spectacle of yourself. Although, I suppose, if you're trying to amuse me you're doing a good job.

But, really. Who's going to get mad about racial slurs?

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2969303
Forgot my quote to >>2969284

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969223
I took Latin as a kid but my guy was named Gaius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GK2jhWJryE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969303
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Anonymous No.]

Best thread on /jp/ right now.

[ZONE !Du1A6pui8g No.]

>>2969312
Ah, counter-clockwise. Nice touch.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2969309
Aurelia is angry in every single picture. Even in the second book.

[bloodynose !ponpoNB7VQ No.]

>>2966651
>But ponpo doesn't know Japanese,

Then explain THIS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In0bn2c0Q6s

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2969309
Mine didn't have color pictures, I don't think.
I think one of the characters was a Gaius, too, but that was in the second or third semester... ehh.

The main character for the first book was Lucius I____ Caecilius, I think, and his son was named Lucius Caecilius Quintus? My memory is really hazy.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

first ponpo, then jones...
i'm next i guess
*assumes aikido stance*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969327
*punches suigin, is 300 pounds*

[Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Really, the only thing I remember now is the stories. That really was a much better way to teach a language than the way they tried to teach me Spanish.

I guess shy of total immersion, using those stories to get you to use the language was a pretty good technique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2969333
You FOOL. That's 300 pounds of mass that will be used against you!

[NewFriend !zkraGArAss No.]

So I got this a few days ago and have been practicing writing....

[Anonymous No.]

Although I've missed the opportunity to take it in college, there are some decent looking Adult Education places that teach Japanese. Would this be a worthwhile investment or is it just a more expensive version of what you'd get from buying a textbook on your own and getting down to work?

[Anonymous No.]

1.Heisig "remembering the kanji"
2.learn the kana
3.read tae kim's guide to jap grammar on the net
4.go through genki 1 and 2 for vocab
5.japanese, the manga way
6.senko k maynard japanese grammar handbook
7.integrated intermediate jap
8.GOOD JOB THE WINNER IS YOU!


Just study these books in that order. Get the CDS for all textbooks. Find and Download "Yan-san and the Japanese people" movies and accompanying workbooks. Study this series in combo with Genki 1 and 2. When you get to the intermediate level, start seriously trying to understand jap drama which you download off the interbuts.

once you get past the "integrated intermediate japanese" text, start importing JLPT books for Nippon, particularly the listening comprehenstion.

Also try to find a tutor, but if you can't don't give up! Speak it when you can, but you can still go a long way by studying grammar AND listening comprehension. Listening is a great skill to build. When and if you do get to japan , and if you followed the method I outlined above, your moonspeak ability will be excellent. even more important is that you built a strong foundation of grammar and comprehension ability, so when you immerse yourself in japan, you'll be able to thrive.

The schoolgirls will be yours, my friend.