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2943882 No.2943882 [Reply] [Original]

So we're having anti-fantasy people say "It didn't happen" . But I'm pretty sure that anything that happened outside the game board is outside Beatrice's influence. That means:

Meta-Beatrice is real and is a witch.
Bern and Lambda are real and they are witches.
Meta-Siesta sisters are real
Meta-Sakes are real
Meta-Ronove
Meta-Gap

Etc

Basically anything shown outside the game board is real. So what do you anti-fantasy people believe?

>> No.2943887

The meta-world is made from miniature explosive devices.

>> No.2943894

>>Basically anything shown outside the game board is real.

No, I don't think so.

>> No.2943896

Meta-world is full of cosplayers.

>> No.2943906

There's a popular Jap theory that explains the meta-world with human logic

>> No.2943907

small bombs

>> No.2943909

>>2943896
Just reminded me that as soon as Gaap shows up all the pseudo-lolita cosplay fatties will cosplay her and proclaim themselves to be the BEST GAAP EVER.

>> No.2943915

Magic and witches only exist in the meta world. Anti-fantasy has nothing to do with that. Anti-fantasy is denying witches and magic in the game world.

>> No.2943916

Everything outside of meta-world isn't from meta-Battler's perspective. It can't be trusted.

>> No.2943918

>>2943909
But Gaap is a pseudo-lolita fatty.

>> No.2943928

>>2943906
Care to explain it?

>> No.2943932

I think the final answer will be a mix of anti-fantasy and anti-mystery. The events of the 4th and 5th for each game will be revealed to be normal murders explained by mystery, but everything that has happened in the mystery realm will also prove to be true, as well as Ange's Kakera where she sacrificed herself for meta Battler.

The meta side of the game is too big a part of the whole story to be a complete fabrication, and it would be lame if the meta realm was just wiped away at the end. Afterall something is causing the events of those two days to repeat, and something must be different for each scenario to play out differently.

I'm a bit afraid that meta-Battler isn't going to have a happy end though... If he wins the game, will he really get to go home with his family? Or will the Battler of the good end scenario get to go home, and meta-Battler disappear?

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>> No.2943935

>>2943906

Oh? What is it?

>> No.2943937

>>2943894
Why?

The argument for claiming everything in game is fake is that it's all an illusion to fool battler. The "????" discussions are not even remembered by Battler so everything that's said there can be seen as true.

As for what the Op said about the game board being false, well that's not true as well, it's Schrodinger's cat bastardization. Everything is true until proven other wise.

>> No.2943951

>>2943882

You sound like anti-anti mystery/fantasy. I like you. I believ magic had no invovlement on Rokkenjima but otherwises exists. The contradiction path is the true one.

>> No.2943952

>>2943932
Game board Battler goes home, meta Battler gets some sort of good end with Beatrice.

>> No.2943961

>>2943952
Berk goes gets 6 year old Ange from one of the worlds where everyone dies and brings her to meta Battler as a reward.

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2943967

No matter what the outcome, Ronove is real.

>> No.2943991

There's a huge problem with the meta-world.

It's the fact that the 1998 Ange deeply wounded the 1986 Maria (that's when she started to draw creepy Black Magic circles in her diary). And I'm sure the REAL 1986 Maria (not MARIA) said that she was angry against Ange. Ange was 3 years old, what the hell?

>> No.2944000

>>2943991

Magic exists.

>> No.2944004
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2944004

Anti-mistery sucks. Would you deny the existence of such creatures like them?

>> No.2944008

>>2943991
She was six. I can see a six year old and a nine year old playing with each other.

>> No.2944009

>>2943991
You misinterpreted that. Ange denied magic as a kid when the two of them were on Rokkenjima.

>> No.2944018

>>2944004
mistery=mystery*
My mistake.

>> No.2944026

>>2943991
I think at some point Ange said she remembers denying witches in front of Maria when she was little.

>> No.2944027

>>2944009
>Ange denied magic as a kid when the two of them were on Rokkenjima.

Well, I got the feeling that the wound came from Ange denying the Stakes and Sakutarou in the classroom. I think I missed that.

>> No.2944042

Everything is in the schroedinger's cat state.

Once the box is opened, if mystery is inside, meta-world never happened.

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>>2944027
It was only briefly shown

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