http://www.mangagamer.com/main/Titles/Details/D223E795-FFA5-44EC-861C-3F738CC53513/shuffle August 15th, €49.95 ($70) /jp/'s thought?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:12:57 2009 No.2933503 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.mangagamer.com/main/Titles/Details/D223E795-FFA5-44EC-861C-3F738CC53513/shuffle

August 15th, €49.95 ($70)

/jp/'s thought?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:15:57 2009 No.2933514 Awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:16:57 2009 No.2933520 I won't buy it, but I will make sure that other people do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:19:57 2009 No.2933534 SHITFLE FUCK YEAH

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:21:57 2009 No.2933537 Is it just a download or do I get a box with some shit in it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:21:57 2009 No.2933538 Jesus fuck, the dollar has really grown weak.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:21:57 2009 No.2933543 Shit, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:24:57 2009 No.2933552 >>2933537 Just a download --- Also, for those wondering, the game doesn't have much yandere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:24:57 2009 No.2933553 File: 70 KB, 889x445, 1240058090499.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2933543

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:25:57 2009 No.2933557 I spent too much money on /jp/ related stuff already this month so I won't be buying this anytime soon. I'm NEET too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:26:57 2009 No.2933562 >>2933552 Correct, that was a creation of the anime, which is vastly superior. I'll wait for the torrent

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:27:57 2009 No.2933566

>>2933520
> I won't buy it, but I will make sure that other people do.

This, I know the game is shit, but there are a lot of Shuffle fans in the western anime community, and I will make sure to do my best at viral marketing with this release, since they will love it and MangaGamer needs the money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:28:57 2009 No.2933574 File: 17 KB, 480x357, 1247291082798.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2933553

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:31:57 2009 No.2933584 I'd buy this if there weren't so many figures coming out in August and September

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:34:57 2009 No.2933592 >$70 Jesus fucking christ I can't afford that. I make like 300 bucks a year. From birthdays and christmas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:35:57 2009 No.2933595 50 euro? That is 1/20 of my paycheck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:44:57 2009 No.2933631 $70? They must have had to pay extra for a Japanese-to-Engrish translator.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:45:57 2009 No.2933636 Shufflefag here, I'd bite at paying $70 for a VN if it weren't for the fact that I'm paying for a DRM download rather than a physical copy. In fact, that's the main reason I wont buy from MangaGamer in general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:47:57 2009 No.2933644 >$70 Dohohoho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:48:57 2009 No.2933648 This group is back http://www.game-patch.net

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:50:57 2009 No.2933660 Speaking of which, is Shera, My Witch leaked?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:50:57 2009 No.2933662 >>2933636 >paying for a DRM download rather than a physical copy. >wont buy from MangaGamer Damn right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:53:57 2009 No.2933674 >>2933648 Then you should read this: http://game-patch.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:54:57 2009 No.2933681 >>2933674 Shit got real.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:56:57 2009 No.2933687 >>2933674 >Actually, gamepatch has written permission from Navel to distribute a translation patch for Shuffle! so I doubt that is a major concern ಠ_ಠ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:56:57 2009 No.2933689 >>2933674 ETA until Heklin's next excuse?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:57:57 2009 No.2933693

>>2933648
Beyond pathetic. Didn't they claim to already be finished, but couldn't release just because that idiot Heklin went to Japan (and took all the translations with him?), had no Internet connection (lolwut), etc etc. (more BS).

And now it's clear they aren't even ready to release yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:58:57 2009 No.2933695 >People can legally acquire the game from Mangagamer for a reduced price and still be able to apply this patch. Anyone found this fucking hilarious?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:59:57 2009 No.2933702 There's still people that haven't realized that Game Patch is nothing but a group of trolls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:00:57 2009 No.2933704 MG is worth it for the uncensoring alone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:01:57 2009 No.2933712 I cant wait to download this game, ill be damned if i pay 50~ for a babelfish translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:01:57 2009 No.2933713 >>2933704 Downloading the censored HCG to see if that is true

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:02:57 2009 No.2933723 >>2933712 > I cant wait to download this game, ill be damned if i pay 50~ for a babelfish translation. Everything after their starting lineup has had passable to decent translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:02:57 2009 No.2933726 >>2933704 Torrenting? Yes. Paying? No. Some of them are hardly worth uncensoring, like Da Capo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:02:57 2009 No.2933727 It will come out cracked soon enough. Not everyone can afford the game, there are many poorfags out there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:03:57 2009 No.2933732 >>2933712 We'll see if you can wait until 2011 for Gamepatch's releae

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:03:57 2009 No.2933736 I haven't played Shuffle but, to the people saying is shit, is it too dull or something? Boring?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:04:57 2009 No.2933740 >>2933732 read >>2933727

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:05:57 2009 No.2933743 Few on /jp/ will buy it, although like usual some /jp/bro will be the uploader and another will be the cracker. Just make sure ANN/AoD/Gaia/Where ever else knows about this release, we need casual buyfags to support MangaGamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:05:57 2009 No.2933746 >>2933727 ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:06:57 2009 No.2933749 >>2933736 Cliched But Navel was too good at marketing that it became popular (at least at /a/)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:06:57 2009 No.2933754 Normally I would say that I'm going to pirate the game so I don't care about price, but SHUFFLE! is not a game I would even pirate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:08:57 2009 No.2933759 50€ is actually not that expensive. The dollar is weak as shit. PS360 games can be sold 70€ in euroland.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:08:57 2009 No.2933761 >>2933736 The anime is actually one of the better harem fanservice adaptions, if only because it breaks the first girl wins rule and yandere moments are involved. The game is shit though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:09:57 2009 No.2933764 >>2933749 Well the anime did, and the anime is actually pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:14:57 2009 No.2933789 >Buy Oh you. I'll grab the torrent when it's out.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:20:07 2009 No.2933821 [DELETED]

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I've seen worse HCGs collections, probably better H content then the Circus games (not saying much)

Oh, get used to seeing the Navel skirt flipper, seeing that we are getting multiple Navel games in the next couple years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:21:57 2009 No.2933830 >>2933789 Bad boy, bad. Come 'ere, Mommy got to teach you a little about money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:24:57 2009 No.2933843 >>2933821 going to buy it if the girl rapes the boy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:26:57 2009 No.2933852 I actually managed to turn one of my friend into a weeaboo because of shuffle anime. Couldn't persuade him to play VNs though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:28:57 2009 No.2933864 >>2933852 Wow. Back when I was a low level I wouldn't watch anything that didn't have guns or some kind of action.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:28:57 2009 No.2933865 >>2933821 I think I remember that part in the anime. Doesn't the green-hair girl forget to put her panties on, and has to avoid having her skirt thingy up by that little kid?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:30:57 2009 No.2933874 File: 161 KB, 817x483, shuffle_shuffle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2933503

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:32:57 2009 No.2933888 Too expensive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:32:57 2009 No.2933889 >>2933821 Upon farther inspection, Really Really and Tick Tack both have superior HCGs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:32:57 2009 No.2933890 >>2933864 Shuffle was actually one of my first anime I ever watched. When I first got into it I was obsessed with the harem ones.

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Mon Jul 13 01:34:26 2009 No.2933898 I can't wait to download it and see how many shitty how shitty the translation is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:35:57 2009 No.2933905 >>2933898 Can't be much worse than the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:36:57 2009 No.2933909 >>2933874 >Full voice ...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:37:57 2009 No.2933914 >>2933898 It will probably have better English than your post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:45:57 2009 No.2933949 File: 55 KB, 670x479, 1245696235214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2933898 >I can't wait to download it and see how many shitty how shitty the translation is. >how many shitty how shitty the translation is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:53:57 2009 No.2933972 >>2933874 So... we are supposed to fap to this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 01:55:57 2009 No.2933985 >>2933972 Yes, you insert it and then push "play".

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Mon Jul 13 02:15:57 2009 No.2934039 >>2933914 >>2933949 Yeah, that's what happens when you try to post while half asleep.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 07:52:57 2009 No.2935188

I still find it a bit scary to buy activation based things. What happens if mangagamer does shut down? What will offer activation for my games in 10 years?

You sort of have to get a crack even if you buy them with systems like that.

We'll see if they will be dropping prices of old products. I tend to buy my games 3 years after release when they have halved in price for PS2. 30 dollars is more acceptable than 60 dollars.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 10:34:57 2009 No.2935799

>>2935188

All this comes out of the curious idea that the consumer really owes something to the publishers and so shouldn't complain about things like DRM protection on games that makes them virtually unplayable without a crack or download-only arrangements. Or shitty translations, for that matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 10:47:57 2009 No.2935839 50 euro for a (very old) visual novel? What the fuck is this, Japan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 11:30:57 2009 No.2935997 >>2935839 Japan gets a physical copy of the game, so this is worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:38:57 2009 No.2936573 Gamepatch seems to think they are something special, and that people will constantly believe their bullshit lies.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:41:57 2009 No.2936587

>>2936573
> Gamepatch seems to think they are something special, and that people will constantly believe their bullshit lies.

We have Shuffle completed, but our guy with it is ummm, in Japan without internet. We are sorry we can't release all of our work
*MangaGamer announced Shuffle*
Our guy was actually in jail, we are a third of the way finished, and now we will rush to complete it just because we don't want someone else to release it, we own Shuffle, no one but us can do anything with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:45:57 2009 No.2936601 Probably won';t purchase this one since I'm not really interested in Shuffle. I'd buy Curtain Call though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:46:57 2009 No.2936605

<+qeed> why do people think that? :P
<+accRei> I wonder xD
<melty> "We have Shuffle completed, but our guy with it is ummm, in Japan without internet. We are sorry we can't release all of our work
<melty> *MangaGamer announced Shuffle*
<melty> Our guy was actually in jail, we are a third of the way finished, and now we will rush to complete it just because we don't want someone else to release it, we own Shuffle, no one but us can do anything with it."
<melty> lol
<melty> <3 jp
<+accRei> lol xD
<+qeed> man i love 4chan behaviors
<+qeed> selfish and indifferent
<+accRei> and funny at times :)
<+qeed> kind of scares me there are people that does this
<+qeed> and its growing rapidly!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:48:57 2009 No.2936612 >>2936605 Oh, and if it wasn't obviously to you guys, that was just taken from #gamepatch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:50:57 2009 No.2936616 Im waiting for Higurashi

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:50:57 2009 No.2936619 >>2936605 lol i just luv chatrooms :D

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:51:57 2009 No.2936624 sorry, IRC guy here, forgot an important line <+accRei> >>2933503 <-- "There's still people that haven't realized that Game Patch is nothing but a group of trolls?" <+accRei> :/ <+qeed> why do people think that? :P

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:54:57 2009 No.2936630 >>2936605 man i love Gamepatch behaviors Nothing but trolling and never funny :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:54:57 2009 No.2936633 >>2936624 the most important one

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:58:57 2009 No.2936644

Gamepatch is a just group of trolls butthurt that the thing they were slowly working on is being translated by a company much faster than them, so they are just doing whatever they can to attempt to make themselves relevant, be it bullshit stories or trying to rush now that they have competition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:59:57 2009 No.2936647 uhhhh what's shuffle?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:01:57 2009 No.2936650 I'd like to buy it just to support Manga Gamer, except I have no money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:03:57 2009 No.2936659 It's going to be such an huge shitstorm when people will realize they've been waiting for BAD game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:04:57 2009 No.2936663 >>2936612 which server?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:06:57 2009 No.2936671

I remember when someone posted that animesuki link where the head translator claimed to have been in jail due to the possession of loli doujin. Everyone ate up that shit, without asking a single question. GP is just mad that all of their fans will end up getting MG's version, and they won't be able to boast as much.

Still $70 is a tad expensive for a eroge. I wasn't going to buy it anyway, but I wonder if they'll try and get people to by Higurashi for this price.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:07:57 2009 No.2936672 >>2936663 >which server? #gamepatch on Rizon

Dessert Mon Jul 13 14:07:57 2009 No.2936674

Hi 4chan!
Dessert here, just to let you all know that we appreciate your support!

As for the heklin in japan/jail thing, that was two different times. He was in japan without internet, because he moved to Akita in the mountains and had to get a line ran out there, then went to jail later.

As for the manga gamer release and our patch, our patch will NOT be compatible with their version of the game, this patch is only for people who have bought the japanese version of the game, and can download the patch when its ready.

Thanks a lot everyone! Enjoy your 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:09:57 2009 No.2936676 >>2936659 Everyone's already prepared for Shuffle's shittiness. There will be a shitstorm when they realize the game they've been waiting for two years for is shit (Family Project), though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:11:57 2009 No.2936684 >>2936676 >Family Project You mean Slice of Life the VN ? Oh wow, that will be awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:14:57 2009 No.2936690 Seeing that Dessert just posted in #gamepatch * ~Dessert shrugs <~Dessert> Its not anything major. It is likely that really was him posting under that name.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:15:57 2009 No.2936698

>>2936671
>Everyone ate up that shit, without asking a single question.

What? Are you trying to say that getting arrested for one thing, getting charged with 900 counts of something different, and then getting that dropped and then jailed for a lesser, completely random charge (all done in complete secrecy unlike every other criminal proceeding in America) isn't believable?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:18:57 2009 No.2936705 File: 107 KB, 600x800, etto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2936676 >waiting for two years four years my friend, four years

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:21:57 2009 No.2936721 >$70 Are you fucking kidding me? An average VN is barely worth half that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:22:57 2009 No.2936722 >>2936674 That is not the problem at all here, point is that you gave bullshit excuses without proof. If you actually showed that the court thing actually happened, people wouldn't complain at all. Instead you just expect us to blindly believe it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:24:57 2009 No.2936732 Judging by the price they've pretty much acknowledged most people will end up pirating it anyways and are counting on moralfags to buy their products to support future translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:24:57 2009 No.2936735 >$70 What the fuck Not like I'll buy it anyway

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:25:57 2009 No.2936737

That's completely ridiculous to ask 50 Euro for that. The japanese version is on Amazon.jp for ￥ 4,480 (~35 Euro).

And let's not blame it on the localization, license fees etc, because Kira Kira translated is lower in price at MG (37 Euro), than the japanese version in Japan for ￥6100 (~47 Euro).
Additionally, despite that Shuffle is actually four and a half year old by the time it's translated, the less than two year old Kira Kira is sold 12 Euro cheaper.
(both prices at amazon.jp are for used product as there isn't any entry for buying new Shuffle)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:25:57 2009 No.2936740 70 dollars!!! hahaha, what idiot is going to pay that much for that shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:26:57 2009 No.2936741 $80 CAD? Fuck that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:26:57 2009 No.2936745 >$70 >Shuffle HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:29:57 2009 No.2936753

The very idea that you could have a translation group where only one person has the scripts is ridiculous.

The whole idea of having a group is to contain people to do things like edit and proofread, which of course means actually seeing the scripts.

Are the people claiming to be members of the group so gullible as to believe in a translation that only 1 person has access to, and continue believing after years of waiting punctuated by sketchy stories?

'No internet access!' - As if there aren't hundreds of internet cafes in Japan.

'Arrested for loli manga!' - Yet it wasn't in the news.

Either the entire group is a bunch of trolls, or just incredibly naive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:30:57 2009 No.2936756 I thought the Euro was worth less than the dollar. Huh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:30:57 2009 No.2936757 What happened to "My Sexslave is a Classmate" (or vice-versa) ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:30:57 2009 No.2936761 File: 4 KB, 178x178, 1231879343938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >€49.95 ($70)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:33:57 2009 No.2936769 more importantly. So I went to Europe one time and saw you guys don't have a $1 at your fast food restaurants, but a 2 euro menu. Why do you guys get ripped off so bad?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:33:57 2009 No.2936771
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>€49.95 ($70)

What? Even video games for my PS3 are only $60 at the most. This is just an eroge, and Shuffle isn't even that good.

Sucks for you buyfags, I guess. I'm not very rich so I'll stick to torrenting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:35:57 2009 No.2936778 >>2936769 Yeah, I know. Everything costs like hell here.

Dessert Mon Jul 13 14:36:57 2009 No.2936784

Well, as for proof, considering I actually had to call a California Prison just to talk to heklin, I'm pretty sure he was really in jail. :P

As for it not being on the news, its because back in 2007, loli wasn't officially against the law yet, and instead of holding him to try and get him for it, they offered a plea bargain to get tax evasion.

As for it all being on one computer, that was a mistake. At the time, we only had 3 active members working on the project, and we had kept the files stored on heklin's personal server. Of course we know better now.

Of course we don't really care about manga-gamer releasing an english version. The reason we started this was as a hobby, didn't want or expect any popularity or bragging rights. The reason we are finishing the project is for the people who bought a japanese copy of the game, and don't want to have to spend 70$ (which I agree is ridiculous) again to play the game.

Keep trolling about GamePatch if you really want to, it dosen't bother us. We have no interest in competing with manga-gamer, and just care about finishing what we started.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:36:57 2009 No.2936786 >>2936771 >PS3 hahaha-faggot.jpg

>>	MolesterJim Mon Jul 13 14:37:57 2009 No.2936788 >>2936756 Dude, at one point recently, you were worth less the the fucking CANDAIAN dollar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:38:57 2009 No.2936794 This is pretty much what paid for Overlord 2, and I still felt ripped off. How can they expect me to buy this ? I'd have second thought even if it costed half of that.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:39:57 2009 No.2936797

>Well, as for proof, considering I actually had to call a California Prison just to talk to heklin, I'm pretty sure he was really in jail. :P
Still doesn't sound plausible. Give us links to court records of the case. If it really happened they will exist.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:40:57 2009 No.2936800

<heklin> as i said before
<heklin> im not trying to beat MG, and could care less
<qeed> its no problem if someone translated it before you
<heklin> im doing this because i WANT to, not for fame/money
<accRei> yea i know that :)
<qeed> those situation happens all the time in game rom translation
<heklin> thats why ive refused donations from the start
<accRei> but... i'll have a hard time finding the old version (thats all)
<heklin> and the idiots that think our patch will work with the mg release are hilarious
<accRei> xD
<Kile> hmm actually that is a good question since I was planning on getting the Anniversary Edition as well
<heklin> acc, i have sources for copies if you need em
<Kile> heklin: that was kind of my fault
<Kile> i've tried to clear it up a bit
<heklin> mg's engine is completely diff, being a drm/download only they have to add all kinds of shit
<Kile> i figured at first that just the executable was modified
<accRei> i'll be needning them when i get money on my hands and are ready to buy it :)
<Kile> but yeah its an entirely different engine
<Kile> a lot of the text effect from the demo are gone
<accRei> :/ bad :/
<Kile> their engine just doesn't support them, sadly
<accRei> well... I'll buy MangaGamers version anyway... and hope they'll release CD versions later :)
<heklin> they dont have license to
<accRei> hmm :/ a shame... :|
<heklin> basicly, the license that mg got entitles navel to 80% of the profit
<heklin> instead of paying license fee's up front and MG keeping the profit
<Kile> heh...they'll prettymuch lose their shirt on their first navel game then
<Kile> so it had better turn out well for them
<heklin> its 50 50
<heklin> might go over well with people that have never played the original game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:42:57 2009 No.2936804 The price is so fucking expensive since Navel gets the vast majority of any profit with the contract that they have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:42:57 2009 No.2936807 >>2936784 Trolling confirmed. Go back to Animesuki where the people are dumber than you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:44:57 2009 No.2936813 File: 70 KB, 300x360, 1225475153488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >$70

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:44:57 2009 No.2936815 >basicly, the license that mg got entitles navel to 80% of the profit Damn, I feel bad for MangaGamer. No wonder they have to make the price high.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 14:44:57 2009 No.2936817 >>2936784 This guy is so full of shit. The fan translation of Shuffle! won't be finished and was probably never even started in the first place. Their troll has kind of backfired now that Mangagamer has picked it up. No more attention for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:45:57 2009 No.2936819 >>2936807 They can't, locked because of their licensing policy.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:45:57 2009 No.2936822

>>2936800
><qeed> those situation happens all the time in game rom translation
lolno
This never happens on serious translation, and you know why ?
Becuase THOSE translations were made underground, by just having some topics open on some obscure game forums and updating once in while
No websites and no personal forums where they could've jerked off to fanboys.

(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 14:47:57 2009 No.2936828

>>2936819
>With MangaGamer's officially-licensed version now officially scheduled for August 15th, and given this forum's licensing policy, I'm going to lock this thread now. It's against AnimeSuki site policy to discuss the translation of licensed works, and patches are not exempted from this rule.

Hahaha, this is awesome.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:50:57 2009 No.2936840

>we only had 3 active members working on the project
Out of curiosity: If there were 3 active members (I presume one being the translator), and only the translator had the entire script with him, then what was the other two person doing to be considered "active"?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:54:57 2009 No.2936858

> Well, as for proof, considering I actually had to call a California Prison just to talk to heklin, I'm pretty sure he was really in jail. :P

This isn't proof. Proof is something verifiable.

Were the story true, there would be all sorts of ways to verify at least parts of it. Arrest records, criminal records, paperwork, etc.

If that's too much, then just post the incomplete shuffle script someplace. No need to build a patch, just a snapshot of whatever you claim to be working on would shut up the 'trolls'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:55:57 2009 No.2936861 >>2936840 posting pics of their family in irc

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:57:57 2009 No.2936869 >>2936861 Post them here.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:00:57 2009 No.2936885

<heklin> This isn't proof. Proof is something verifiable.
<heklin> Were the story true, there would be all sorts of ways to verify at least parts of it. Arrest records, criminal records, paperwork, etc.
<heklin> If that's too much, then just post the incomplete shuffle script someplace. No need to build a patch, just a snapshot of whatever you claim to be working on would shut up the 'trolls'.
<heklin> do they really think im gonna post shit with my real name, adress, SS# etc?
<Kile> well you could edit those out but...then they will probably say they are faked
<SupernaturalDream> are you reading 4chan again?
<heklin> haha i love reading uninformed idiots ranting
<Kile> where else gives enough of a shit to troll this hard?
<heklin> i needed a good laugh today,

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:03:57 2009 No.2936898 > <heklin> do they really think im gonna post shit with my real name, adress, SS# etc? Someone never learned how to use photoshop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:04:06 2009 No.2936904 Guys, I think it's time we ALL went down to their IRC to have a little talk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:04:57 2009 No.2936903 >>2936898 Or even paint.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:06:57 2009 No.2936908 >>2936885 ahaha poor guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:06:57 2009 No.2936910 >>2936885 I was just looking forward to having something else to read, but man he's a dick about this.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:07:57 2009 No.2936915

>>2936885
I like how he ignores the WIP part. They should be able to post something up that verifies how far they are. More than likely, they would be pimping their progress if they actually had it done. Aka, a second patch that had more than their alpha one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:07:57 2009 No.2936917 <heklin> should i post a screenshot of the email we are useing as an archive now? * heklin has the sudden urge to troll the 4chan trolls and feed the fire

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:14:57 2009 No.2936930

<heklin> either that, or just build what we have and release it
<heklin> ill talk to des, since the polls gone
<heklin> it looked like most people were leaning twards incremental releases anyway
<heklin> welcome vodka
<Kile> heklin
<Kile> there is a new poll up
<Vodoka> 'Sup.
<Kile> :P
<heklin> ah, ok, i checked before and it was down
<Kile> yeah it didn't survive the conversion but its been reposted
<Kile> and yeah it is still leaning toward incremental releases
<heklin> ok cool
<heklin> ok, i thin today ill sort through all the recovered stuff
<heklin> *think
<heklin> and sort out the final release stuff and what needs edited
<Kile> do you need me to set up any sort of distro?
<heklin> for now, no need
<heklin> prolly need something by end of the week though
<Kile> i can provide ddl, bittorrent, xdcc bots, SVN, or any combination of the above

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:16:57 2009 No.2936936

<heklin> its mainly text so the patch size should be total under 500k
<Kile> SVN will need a little more time to set up though
<heklin> svn will prolly be the way we go
<Kile> oh just DDL then
<Kile> for now
<heklin> do an initial release first, then allow svn updates
<Kile> if you wanna shut the trolls up
<Dessert> Yeah, just put an SVN, then make a post saying to update your SVN when we update.
<Kile> alright, I'll get to work setting up an AVN then
<Kile> *SVN
<Dessert> Either way, its not like 4chan will/can do anything, they will forget about it in a day or two (goldfish syndrome).
<Kile> hahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:22:57 2009 No.2936954 >>2936936 Why do they refer to /jp/ as all of 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:29:57 2009 No.2936972 What are you raging about 70$? 50€ is pretty standard for a game (in a box, in Europe). no box = no buy, though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:30:57 2009 No.2936976

Why are they getting all bent out of shape when some people are just asking for them to verify the claim heklin stated? Also why does it seem like they want to stick it to this site, and make us feel incompetent? Shouldn't they have more important things do and try to stay respectable about this situation. Making fun of people and calling them names is just irresponsible and a childish way of trying to get back at someone. I can understand that type of behavior here because nobody takes the other person seriously, but it actually seem s like they genuinely hate this site.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 15:32:57 2009 No.2936979 I wasn't going to buy this, but I just realised that it's being released on my birthday and this would be a pretty good gift to buy for myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:33:57 2009 No.2936981 >>2936976 Their hollier than thou attitude posted in this thread really turned me off to them EXTREMELY fast. I was expecting an awesome team like Witch-Hunt which presents themselves more like not-faggots.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:35:57 2009 No.2936989

<accRei> oki
<heklin> the last one was from /a/
<heklin> and then there was one in /b/ god those guys were just strange (scary strange)
<heklin> im never going in /b/ again haha
<Kile> lurk moar
<Kile> >:O
<heklin> there are some good people that use 4chan, that think before they post
<accRei> xD
<Kile> most ppl see 4chan as a shield behind which they can post without a real identity of any kind
<heklin> but it seems the majority of them are well under 18, and have no buisness talking about a hgame anyway =3
<Kile> they won't come discuss it on irc because they are forced to have a name tied to their words
<heklin> as well as an ip =3
<Kile> well a vhost fixes that problem
<SupernaturalDream> rizon has masking, unless you know ircops <_<
<heklin> if someone came in here in the channel, and asked for proof, thats diff
<Kile> i'm not gonna ask an ircop to give me someone's IP address unless they are causing actual destruction
<heklin> im not giving up court docs, but i could give em screenshots etc
<heklin> just dcc chat em
<Kile> then they have to accept :P
<heklin> if they dumb enough to accept you have their ip
<heklin> or dcc send em something
<SupernaturalDream> and they have yours
<heklin> i have a 256 ip block =3
<heklin> a simple dc and click and diff ip
* heklin loves buisness class internets

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:38:57 2009 No.2937000 >>2936989 Generalizations make you sound smart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:38:57 2009 No.2937004 >>2936979 Throwing away $70 for something you could get for free, which isn't very good in the first place, is considered a gift to yourself?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:39:57 2009 No.2937009 >>2937004 I welcome every mg support, they have a reason to request such a high price, it's sad but it's true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:41:57 2009 No.2937015 Is anyone actually curious about Shuffle at all, other than using it as a yardstick to estimate how MGs translations of Higurashi and other games will turn out?

(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 15:42:57 2009 No.2937019

>>2937004
You act as though you've actually played it or something.

But yes. Why not? I want to support Mangagamer and I'd like to see them pick up more high profile titles like this. I already bought Kira Kira from them. And Japan seems to like Shuffle! enough.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 15:43:57 2009 No.2937023 >>2936989 That's a lot of unwarranted pretentiousness right there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:44:57 2009 No.2937025 >>2937019 Japan also likes Da Capo and To Heart 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:45:57 2009 No.2937028 >>2937025 For good reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:45:57 2009 No.2937029 >>2937019 >You act as though you've actually played it or something. You act as though you know whether I've played it or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:45:57 2009 No.2937031 You guys are all cowards for only discussing this stuff on here, speak to us directly on our IRC channel (#gamepatch on Rizon)

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:46:57 2009 No.2937037

I really don't see why heklin doesn't give us some kind of proof he was arrested. Someone else saying they talked to him in prision is hardly proof.

I was arrested last year (the case was dropped), and they give you SHITLOADS OF PAPERWORK. Arresting, booking, court, court fines, jail paperwork, receipts, booking fines, all of this has shitloads of shit you need to sign and keep. And a lot of it has no more information than your name, or address. Some of it has stuff like your booking number/case number/etc, but none of that is any real damn use to any of us.

>>	Falcon !2Rbw7EnERg Mon Jul 13 15:46:57 2009 No.2937038 >>2933503 this better have a gold-plated box

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:47:57 2009 No.2937039 >>2937029 Whether it's shit or not there's nothing wrong with buying a game now and then to support the translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:47:57 2009 No.2937040 So how are they going to handle the Rin/Rin thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:48:57 2009 No.2937047 >>2937037 And by "None of that has any real use to us", I mean it's not like we'll be able to steal his SN number or something from them. But they could all be shown as proof that ANYTHING -actually- happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:50:57 2009 No.2937055 could someone tell me whats so great about shuffle?? does it have some gimmick that makes it more entertaining than other dating sims?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:50:57 2009 No.2937057 >>2937031 But heklin might get my ip address! Whatever would I do if something like that happened? After all, he's a convicted felon, who knows what he could do!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:50:57 2009 No.2937058 As long as Umineko isnt touched, I don't care. But Sumanga... that really hurt me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:51:57 2009 No.2937061 >>2937055 Usually I would be helpful and reply seriously but your post has newfriend written all over it. So I'll just tell you to lurk more.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:53:57 2009 No.2937067

>>2937031
Fuck off, heklin.

If you had done your homework before writing your work of fiction (such as taking a minute or so to find out what you would actually be charged with had you been arrested for loli manga, saying 'CP with intent to distribute' makes it too fucking obvious you're lying) then less people would be calling your bullshit out.

Or had you just decided to not bother with that story, obviously meant to garner unwarranted sympathy from the 'anime community', and said 'I'm a tax cheat so the big bad government threw me in jail' literally no one would give a shit enough to ask you for proof.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:56:57 2009 No.2937076 >>2937055 No. The anime actually had to add things to make it interesting. (Kaede isn't yandere in the game)

(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 16:03:57 2009 No.2937109

<_nameless_> Okay, so where is this proof that you're only giving people who join the channel?
<&KittieKyo> Hello.
<Vodoka> Well, what you said about 4chan earlier was pretty annoying to read.
<&heklin> nameless, go make an anon email addy and link it here
<_nameless_> Kay, wait a sec'
<&KittieKyo> heklin: I heard I get to go piss off 4chan?
<&heklin> and ill email you the scripts we have recovered, sound fair?
<&heklin> if you want to hun -3
<&KittieKyo> Yay! I am soo bored.. and the kid is being a pain too
<Vodoka> Is your opinion based on just generilazations from two years ago or what?
<&heklin> normally i would ignore it as usual, im just bored as well
<&KittieKyo> Whos the new peoples?
<@Kile> my issues with 4chan are a combination of various things
<@Kile> "Usually I would be helpful and reply seriously but your post has newfriend written all over it. So I'll just tell you to lurk more."
<_nameless_> Wait, the scripts? I was expecting proof of the whole prison thing
<@Kile> that being one of them
<Vodoka> Oh come on, they've been getting stuff like that for months.
<&heklin> ahh, sorry, thats one thing im not giving out
<@Kile> and the terrible abuse of the anonymity
<_nameless_> Yeah, thought so

So yeah. I joined the channel and asked for proof and he's still not willing to give any. That pretty much settles it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:03:57 2009 No.2937110 >>2937047 who cares or needs proof heklin was arrested? more importantly, where is any proof that game-patch had supposedly finished translation of shuffle! and was already in the editing stage, and presumably nearly finished, for more than a year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:06:57 2009 No.2937125 Why do you give that huge faggot attention

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:06:57 2009 No.2937129

>>2937019
>Japan seems to like Shuffle! enough

That's hardly a recommendation. Japan seems to like a lot of things that are shit.

I was never interested in Shuffle anyway. I might buy Higurashi, but the download-only thing really gets on my nerves. I understand that they want to cut costs, but for God's sake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:07:57 2009 No.2937133 >>2937109 There's a lot of proof he could give that wouldn't let us pry into his private life. Translation: He is lying. Not that there's any surprise there, anyway.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:07:57 2009 No.2937134

<_nameless_> Okay, so where is this proof that you're only giving people who join the channel?
<heklin> nameless, go make an anon email addy and link it here
<_nameless_> Kay, wait a sec'
<heklin> and ill email you the scripts we have recovered, sound fair?
<_nameless_> Wait, the scripts? I was expecting proof of the whole prison thing
<heklin> ahh, sorry, thats one thing im not giving out
<heklin> theres to much people can do with that kinda info
<Vodoka> Just blank out all the personal info.
<heklin> even if i just gave a case number, it can be traced back easily via public records
<heklin> and i dont plan on having problems over some random person
<_nameless_> Surely there's some sort of proof you can give that can't be traced back to you
<heklin> not really, to much shit to do
<Kile> if you want proof that can't be traced back to him he may as well do a search of public records for a similar case...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:09:57 2009 No.2937141 Why are people being so idiotic about the price? Average price for an eroge in Japan is around $90.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:11:57 2009 No.2937151

>>2937134
>not really, to much shit to do

Lets see...

Notice to appear/reappear (If you got out on OR, I don't know the whole backstory) cotains no personal information that could be traced back to you.

Back side of the booking/property record contains no personal information that could be traced back to you.

Jail/prision orientation papers contain no information that could be traced back to you.

A lot of the papers have no information that could be traced back to you in the event that you only take a picture of the top half and/or one side of it.

Surprise to no one: He is full of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:13:57 2009 No.2937163 >>2937109 >_nameless_ disconnects (Quit: Oh, there's a cat. I can put that cat in my anus...) seriously...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:14:57 2009 No.2937167 >>2937141 > Why are people being so idiotic about the price? Average price for an eroge in Japan is around $90. They get nice things with their purchases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:15:57 2009 No.2937170 >>2937151 >If you got out on OR I also meant to say "on OR or on bail".

>>	KittieKyo Mon Jul 13 16:16:57 2009 No.2937174 You all are soooooo boring~!

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 16:16:57 2009 No.2937179 >>2937174 And you're probably a whale with a huge yaoi collection.

>>	KittieKyo Mon Jul 13 16:18:57 2009 No.2937184 Nah, Yaoi is dull. The whale we can roll with though~ Til I bother losing the baby weight.. Care to try again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:19:57 2009 No.2937188 >>2937184 I don't think he has to. You already took care of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:20:57 2009 No.2937192 >>2937184 You're only making yourself look bad here, please do not try to troll us like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:20:57 2009 No.2937194 >>2937179 Being a whale with a huge yuri collection doesn't make you any better, to be fair.

>>	KittieKyo Mon Jul 13 16:21:57 2009 No.2937198 Aww but that means you have no imagination! Come on, I am bored.. Entertain me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:22:57 2009 No.2937201 >>2937198 Anyone have that picture of how a troll thinks you're reacting, and how you're actually reacting? I'm reminded of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:22:57 2009 No.2937206 File: 9 KB, 493x402, 1245619951625.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2937174 GET THE HARPOONS

>>	KittieKyo Mon Jul 13 16:23:57 2009 No.2937210 Actually! The hubby and I deleted all of our hentai when we had our son! Oh no! No hentai is too much for all of you to handle isn't it? I'm sorry, just imagine we have some. K? ^-^

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:23:57 2009 No.2937211 File: 87 KB, 755x1255, 10976.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:24:57 2009 No.2937213 This thread is a disgrace, even for /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:24:57 2009 No.2937219 >>2937210 Obvious /jp/er in disguise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:25:57 2009 No.2937222 >>2937198 Look, /jp/ already gets lots of shit only for being /jp/. You probably think you're being clever or funny, but you aren't at all.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:27:57 2009 No.2937229

To be quite honest, what MG should do in my opinion (and doesn't involve setting up their own english edition-delivery service), is to work on a solution to cooperate with a delivery site importing original games in japanese (which would improve their sales too, so they wouldn't refuse), and charge a small reasonable price for a localization patch made by MG. (It would be quite big, because it changes the engine and whatnot, but today broadband isn't the issue.)

Doing that would be also a roundabout solution to solve their "claim", that they cannot produce physical copies due to the japanese developers disagree with it.

Obviously getting a physical copy that way would cost like a huge pain in the ass, but whoever insists on physical copy could get it, and it'd be still better than as it is now.
Probably even their sales could be improved with that, as those people who would import and patch will ending up pirating it now the way things are, however in the hypothesis I just said, they would at least spend some money on it.
In some cases as I pointed it out in >>2936737 the japanese release is even cheaper than the english (I haven't checked the other titles MG released).

-----
And let's stop that drama with that guy, I didn't believe him two years ago, I will not believe him now either. It's pointless to even discuss anything about him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:27:57 2009 No.2937230 >>2937211 That about sums it up, only the troll should be saying "^__^ lol i am like soooooo clever"

>>	KittieKyo Mon Jul 13 16:30:57 2009 No.2937246 Anyhow, I have to get going because I have a life off of the net. So, Have fun whining and bashing GP for no reason! And believe what you want, but my dad will finish the patch, on his own time, when he feels like it!

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 16:31:57 2009 No.2937251 >>2937229 I'd be willing to pay extra for a hard copy and I imagine I'm not the only one. I wonder how much the price would go up though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:31:57 2009 No.2937253 >>2937246 Please see >>2937211

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:32:57 2009 No.2937254 ...wait, this isn't even a hard copy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:33:57 2009 No.2937257 >>2937246 I'm starting to fucking hate these guys. Let's all send Email to MG and tell them that they should send cease and desist letter to Gamepatch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:34:57 2009 No.2937259 >>2936972 50€ is pretty standard for a game For a GAME, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:35:57 2009 No.2937265 >>2937257 im on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:35:57 2009 No.2937267 >>2937257 FUCKING THIS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:36:57 2009 No.2937269 >>2937246 You'll need to try harder than that, Mrs. Beluga. You're hardly amusing.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 16:37:57 2009 No.2937272 >>2937257 As much as I would like to stop giving them anymore attention, I do like this idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:38:57 2009 No.2937273 >>2937257 Now that's a good idea

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:38:57 2009 No.2937275

>>2937251

Remove "extra" from that statement and I agree. I don't buy anything that's just available as a download. Not visual novels and not games on that shitty Steam network. I really will buy a VN if it comes as a hard copy, though. I've got Phantom of Inferno and Ever17.

The whole legal argument Mangagamer is making honestly seems like a dodge, but then I don't know the specifics of the law in that field.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:39:57 2009 No.2937278 <heklin> they cant <heklin> only navel can =3 <heklin> and ive already emailed them =3

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:39:57 2009 No.2937280 >>2937257 fucking genius

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:41:57 2009 No.2937289 >>2937278 I like how he stopped talking about proving he got arrested after that one guy pointed out he could EASILY do it. GP are truly top-tier trolls.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:41:57 2009 No.2937293

>>2937251
Well it'd be obviously more expensive than the DL only, however MG should take some % from the delivery company, because they are the reason those titles are selling (like they will charge 50% for every Higurashi the Delivery company sells). If they'd adjust the prices between the patch and between the Delivery company, Mangagamer would be getting essentially the same money, than the DL only edition, however there would be more happy customer, and MG could say that there is a way to have a physical copy if you don't like DL only. For us buyers it'd be more expensive though, but it'd still better for the guys like you.
As for myself, I will only buy Higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:44:57 2009 No.2937310 >>2937278 And when was it that GP contacted Navel? Three years ago?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:45:57 2009 No.2937313 <KittieKyo> I love how whiney everyone is about GP when the patch is for personal use anyhow and not for all the idiots on the internet. <KittieKyo> ... I needa go bra shopping More like potatoe sacks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:48:57 2009 No.2937331 >>2937313 Oh lord, it's ToHeart 2 all over again.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:48:57 2009 No.2937332

>>2937313
<KittieKyo> I love how whiney everyone is about GP when the patch is for personal use anyhow and not for all the idiots on the internet.

<@Kile> my issues with 4chan are a combination of various things
<@Kile> "Usually I would be helpful and reply seriously but your post has newfriend written all over it. So I'll just tell you to lurk more."
<@Kile> that being one of them

Funny, sounds the same to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:49:57 2009 No.2937337 >>2937278 <heklin> only navel can =3 I'm not seeing any problems here. Enjoy your C&D.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:52:57 2009 No.2937352

Few years ago there was a group translating Shuffle, but they disappeared without explanation. Soon after it was announced that MangaGamer would be releasing the same game in English, they resurfaced again and currently they have their project set up in forum here:
http://game-patch.net/forums/index.php
This group is claiming that they will release the patch(that will not be compatible with version bought from MangaGamer!) even though you are localizing the game officially.
This will surely affect MangaGamer's profits, so wouldn't it be best to either buy the translation(if any) from them or just tell them to stop?

Help me out here guys. Anything else that needs to be put on, or could it be worded better?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:56:57 2009 No.2937375 >>2937352 >buy the translation Leave that shit out. This is probably what the faggots were hoping would happen when they came out of the woodworks.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Mon Jul 13 16:57:57 2009 No.2937379 E-mail sent to MangaGamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 16:58:57 2009 No.2937386 >>2937375 Good point. Sending now.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:03:57 2009 No.2937410

I don't really care if they're trolling or not, but I don't like that they're potentially stealing business from MangaGamer. I'd much rather have money going to MangaGamer so we can get more translations like this, rather than going through years of drama for a fan translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:07:57 2009 No.2937434 File: 58 KB, 463x347, yyyyyyyyyyy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Keep trolling about GamePatch if you really want to, it dosen't bother us And you don't interest us. Niggers.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:10:57 2009 No.2937451
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Best thing is that 49€ is a pretty good price for games in Europe. Have fun paying your shitty amerikkan FPS for 69 €.

And now stop failing at economics. It's not that the eurofags are being cheated but that amerikkans are in the pole position on the road to hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:12:57 2009 No.2937461 >>2937451 we shouldn't hate each other but instead combine our forces to send emails to mg and navel

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:13:57 2009 No.2937468

By the way, I'd love to see that agreement GP boasts to have, which entitles them to translate Shuffle.
If someone is still here from those folks, be so kind and forward my humble request. Screenshot would be preferable (it's not that hard to black out the personal parts like emailaddress), but my curiosity would be satisfied with copy-pasting it somewhere too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:14:57 2009 No.2937472 >>2937461 I actually sent Email to Liar-Soft earlier asking for them to work with MG. Dunno if they understand English, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:14:57 2009 No.2937474 >>2933648 Are you fucking kidding. They've been working on it(that's what they say) for 4 years. Just accept it, they are never going to release it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:14:57 2009 No.2937478 >>2937461 Yes my friend, /jp/ shall combine it's powers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:16:57 2009 No.2937488 For example: Blazblue PS3 English 64 € + extra shipping costs because only sold to adults Though games got a little cheaper in the last two years. I remember paying like fucking ~70€ for my Resident Evil 4 GC Uncut version

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:17:57 2009 No.2937493

"KittieKyo 07/13/09(Mon)16:30 No.2937246 - Anyhow, I have to get going because I have a life off of the net. So, Have fun whining and bashing GP for no reason! And believe what you want, but my dad will finish the patch, on his own time, when he feels like it!"

Please don't let daddy Heklin babysit your kid, or else we'll never get the patch lol

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:17:57 2009 No.2937495

>>2937410
>rather than going through years of drama for a fan translation.
BREAK THE SUPPORT DISC, etc.

I like to weigh a game's playtime to their price.
Still, would be nice to have a box and disc. How many times are they going to let me install this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:19:57 2009 No.2937504 >>2937495 JUST GET THE CRACK. How many times again? You can buy it if you want and fucking crack it.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:29:22 2009 No.2937547 [DELETED]

>>2937474
I know that, and I'm also really sure there is something fishy going on.
However I wanted to word myself nicely, so that's not going to be the issue for denying such an easy request, like making a screenshot about that supposed agreement they claim to have.
More specifically I'm interested to see it's date, and whether there is anything else besides just "sure, go ahead and TL it".

And I do think it might be a good idea to send an email to MG actually. Not because I'm against these folks, and not because I'd like to feel evil, however as someone who plays VNs most of his time, I really think that MG could boast their sales -especially that they are in the red, so they need all the money they can make-, if every people will buy their own edition, instead of importing/downloading a japanese version and applying the patch which GP claims to release sometimes in the dubious future (whether it's true or not it's not the issue now).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:37:57 2009 No.2937833 These fags are way too smug, here's hoping they get a C&D.

Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Mon Jul 13 19:09:57 2009 No.2937915

Mangagamer is releasing a 5 and half year old game, that will be download only, for $70US.

GamePatch is an extremely incompetent 'group', that will never translate the game, and it's questionable how much work they've even done.

The game in question, Shuffle!, isn't even a very good game.

Is this what the thread is basically about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:34:57 2009 No.2938222 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:40:57 2009 No.2938248 >>2937915 Who are we kidding? You really think /jp/ will buy them? There is only 1-2 buyfags in /jp/. We should help mangagamer and do a viral marketing in animesuki, gaia, sankaku or ann.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:41:57 2009 No.2938255 Buyfag reporting in. I'm skipping this one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:44:57 2009 No.2938261 If I had a job I would buy it. I don't.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:50:57 2009 No.2938285

To be quite honest, I also think it might be worthwhile fpr a few of us to send an email and ask MG to send C&D. Not because I like or dislike GP, don't get me wrong. However as someone who's only playing with english VNs, it's desirable to see the official translations made by a company (especially one who selects titles decently), but when GP might release sometimes their own patch months/years/decades later, then some people might going to decide to import the japanese title and use the GP patch, so MG will not see a penny out of that. I'd prefer if those people would rather support MG with their money instead of whatever japanese company he'll import from.
I do feel sorry for whoever bought the japanese game already, but I personally wouldn't have ordered it before the beta-testing phase at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:04:57 2009 No.2938328 Was looking forward to this for yandere content. Lack of yandere makes this game shit. Semi-Enjoyable show with out of fucking nowhere end pairing does not need even more dissapointment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:40:57 2009 No.2938533 I have a job, and while I understand Japs may normally pay outrageous prices for VNs anyways, there's no way I would throw down that much for a VN, and I buy figures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:10:57 2009 No.2939332 bump

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:24:57 2009 No.2939401

>>2938285

>it's desirable to see the official translations made by a company

Why? Why's a professional translation better than a fan translation? Especially when so many professional VN translations have been complete shit.

>but when GP might release sometimes their own patch months/years/decades later, then some people might going to decide to import the japanese title and use the GP patch, so MG will not see a penny out of that.

Yeah, because MangaGamer is the one making all the VNs we enjoy. Oh wait, no they're not. If I want to pay money to support the VN industry in anway, I'd much rather buy directly from the Japanese, and not some foreign distributor. At least that way some of the money might end up in the hands of the original creators. Why should I want to support MangaGamer's translations when fans can provide the same service, better and for free? And I can still support the creators by buying their games in the original Japanese and applying the patches. Everyone wins. Except for MangaGamer of course.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:29:57 2009 No.2939418 I don't buy software, it's stupid.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:37:57 2009 No.2939458
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Mangagamer charge for translations far worse than fan translations, and now, ridiculous DRM.

Gamepatch are a bunch of attentionwhores now stalling like crazy after excuse after excuse was given for no patch release.

Shuffle itself is a very average game.

This situation is hilarious. It's better than the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:43:57 2009 No.2939475 >>2939401 70% of your purchase goes to Navel,

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:45:57 2009 No.2939477 >>2939418 Cool story bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:49:57 2009 No.2939489 >>2939475 Versus 100% from importing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:51:57 2009 No.2939505 >>2939489 Enjoy your moonspeak + never going to exist translation from FagPatch.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 00:54:57 2009 No.2939518

>>2939401
I'd take stability over quality, at least in the case of something like Shuffle, which isn't exactly a literary masterpiece, but still something I might interested in. I'd certainly take it over this bullshit drama that's been going on for the last four years.

Also, at this point, I am not so concerned with supporting the Japanese industry since it's not like there'll be a draught of decent VNs to localize anytime soon. MG is starting to improve and listen to it's customers - I emailed them a few days ago about the hardcopy issue, and this was their prompt response:

>Thank you for your advice!

>If we find any partner to sell with disc, we'd like to start it ASAP.
>We can do that by ourselves.

>Thanks again for your support at MangaGamer.com

So it's not like they are opposed to the idea.

mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k Tue Jul 14 00:54:57 2009 No.2939520

I already own the PS2 version so there's no way in hell anyone can compel me to purchase another. Though I am very interested in seeing the translation. I bought my copy new over a year and a half ago for less than $40 including shipping. Why is this copy so expensive?

The excuse that it's expensive in Japan doesn't work. If so why was mine so cheap? Just because it's for all ages shouldn't mean shit, it contains two more routes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 01:00:57 2009 No.2939553 >>2939520 Shuffle! On the Stage was repackaged as a "Greatest Hits" (discounted) type game.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 02:36:57 2009 No.2939908

>Why should I want to support MangaGamer's translations when fans can provide the same service, better and for free?

Because it's highly obvious that the fans don't always prodive better. Or can either buy from a company that has it up on their page with a gaurentee of being translated with a timeframe. Or you can twiddle your thumbs and hang on the every word of idiot fans who have no reputation to speak of.

This whole thread is great. Trolls on both side. In the end most of you will buy shuffle from MG. None of you really care about a hard copy. Like any of you go buya hardcopy of the countless other VN you've all pirated. And I highly doubt some random fans have a translation.

Maybe if they could put out instead of hiding in IRC behind fake names while trying to poke fun at 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:02:57 2009 No.2940082 Man I couldn't finish reading this thread but I don't give a fuck about GP's translation. I will torrent the game when it comes out next month. MG's translations might not be the best ever but they are acceptable enough

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:07:57 2009 No.2940093

>>2939908
Disclaimer: I'm not touching translated Shuffle because the game itself is pretty average, if not outright bad.

If I pay for a translation, I fucking expect some professionalism in the translation. Doubly so if they're charging these kinds of prices. Kira Kira's translation was lazy and reeked of lack of editing at meny points, and don't even get me started on Edelweiss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:21:57 2009 No.2940135 File: 120 KB, 600x375, 1247241474396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2939520 >purchase >bought

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:28:57 2009 No.2940170 I was hoping they would troll like Valve did and make it $70 and €70.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:30:57 2009 No.2940178 >>2939908 You must be fucking high if you think anymore than a handful of people are going to buy from MG and don't think those few will have the game up in a day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 14:46:17 2009 No.2940178,1 lol.

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