/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

Assuming the majority of /jp/ is made of up NEETs, has anybody here ever considered making your own games or anything? Most of us just sit on our asses all day anyway, why not be productive?

You all saw how much popularity and attention Katawa Shoujo got with just their demo release. All that is is a collaborative project made by a bunch of faggots just like us. Not to mention Touhou. That's just one guy who does everything, as I'm sure you know.

You don't even need a college education in the field to learn how to do this kind of shit. People go to college for the credibility. You don't need credibility if you're self employed, and you won't have to spend the fuckton of money you'd spend on somebody teaching you something when you could just learn it yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

No skills. Too lazy.

[The /jp/ Police !3GqYIJ3Obs No.]

Didn't you hear? Original content is banned from /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>People go to college for the credibility
I'm going there because otherwise I can't enter sports competitions, math olympiads, debates, and other highly stimulating intellectual activities only offered for undergrads, but yeah you are right.

>you won't have to spend the fuckton of money you'd spend on somebody teaching you something when you could just learn it yourself.

Well some people are such simpletons that they need to pay fucktons of money to get people regurgitate the same shit stated in the books.

[Anonymous No.]

>You all saw how much popularity and attention Katawa Shoujo got with just their demo release. All that is is a collaborative project made by a bunch of faggots just like us.

And make something equally shitty? No, thank you.

>That's just one guy who does everything, as I'm sure you know.

One guy who worked as a professional game designer.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe. I've always wanted to write or make something, though more for myself than for others. Maybe one of these days I'll start writing something.

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2901503
Pretty much this, but I want to be self-employed eventually. I hate the thought of giving my time to other people in exchange for money.

>>2901515
>highly stimulating intellectual activities

Why are social science majors so pretentious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901519
>game programmer
Slight fix (this makes a big difference.)

[Anonymous No.]

I think a lot about it.
I have several drafts of lol "design documents" sitting around a folder I work on whenever I'm feeling ambitious. Pity I can't code my way out of a Console.WriteLine("Hello World");

[Anonymous No.]

The first Touhou was a school project if I recall correctly.
So Master 神主 did go to school at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901540
That's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901551
Touhou 98 games don't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

For a long time now I want to create an SLG game. Unfortunately I suck as a writer and can't draw shit. Not to mention I know nothing about musics. The only thing I know is programming and even that is suspect since I haven't programmed since the start of this year. ;_;

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2901564

[Anonymous No.]

I want to do something, but all I have is writing skill. I probably couldn't program or draw anything for shit, so I'm stuck. Music programs are too complicated as well.

[Anonymous No.]

We should start small - /jp/ tower defense game

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901515
It you want to actually learn something, it's better to hire a tutor or become an apprentice. Self-study rarely works out and college is mostly useless.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is too lazy to do anything, and if they bothered doing something with others it would fall apart fast with all the bitching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901584
Hire a programmer to teach me programming? Why didn't I think of that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901575
Who is that girl in the mirror?

[Anonymous No.]

/m/ has that homemade SRW game they are working on. Why can't we do something along the lines of Super Loli Wars? Sure it might only be a dozen or so folks who do the actual work but the community as a whole will have contributed their opinions and insights and what not. Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did we stop the original content threads, by the way?

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2901579
I'm actually pretty good with music and writing isn't even necessarily essential depending on what kind of game we're talking about. I'd like to learn how to do programming and shit, but I don't even know where I'd start. Google, maybe... That'd be a start. Haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901582
You mean a warcraft 3 custom map?

[Anonymous No.]

slowly making this thing. doesn't help that I keep rethinking the game rules. just wanted to get cards on the field and attack each other at first, then came up with threads and posts in place of the field, now I'm thinking about letting each player post on any side of the field freely. and so on...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901584
Programming is easy to self-study, math however...

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2901620
>Super Loli Wars

I'd be so down.

[Anonymous No.]

Currently making an Eroge--

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901622

Even something with as much support as the smirks got majorly harried by reportfags, tripfags, and what felt like invaders from /a/. In the end I think one person ended up making all of them. I know I made a few, but they were ultimately replaced, probably for the better.

Disagreements on the sleeves were somewhere near the heart of the problem. I still think cross-arms is acceptable, but whatever...
In the end we did get all our smirks done, so I wouldn't call it a failure.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2901653
You don't say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901582

a /jp/- hold on you're not actually talking about a community project are you? Oh lawd.

[Anonymous No.]

I do a lot of writing myself, a couple of hours a day normally. I wish i could draw though, so I've been working on the basics.

If i had anything to do with my writing skills that was more goal focused, I would, but right now I'm just working on several different ideas at once and kind of switch between them depending on my mood at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyway, I can program some, been trying to dick around with DirectX APIs lately (should be doing some openGL, but meh). My main problem is my math isn't were I'd like it to be, and whenever I try to teach myself math I always end up stopping after an hour with a headache and no new knowledge. I also play music, but that's just for my own entertainment. I've always been a fag for project shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901661

Basically anytime somebody here tries to commit time and effort to something and attempt to share it, it gets attacked for one reason or another.

Even for something as banal as a longer-than avverage opener for a thread or a half-way decently developed argument or thought in any discussion will get a "cool story bro" or "fascinating" macro image guaranteed, at least during daylight hours.

Stuff like the Gensokyo Man chose-your-own adventure story threads are another example. A large part of the problem is that posters in 4chan don't know how to consolidate threads; they create new threads whenever they fancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901699

And they don't know how to respect other people's content, feeling apparently entitled to attack and invade, derail, and abuse reporting functions in antisocial ways.

This might be an inevitable problem when adapting Japanese social site models for Western users.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901715
Japanese people do that too, only they don't have a report button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901723
I doubt they do it as much, there's a lot of huge doujin projects that have started on BBS'.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

/jp/ should do something simple and awesome like Cave Story

Cave Story was cute and awesome, the story wasn't too deep or too bad, and it was fun as heck

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901699
GM and WUiG was a success. It created TP and many stories.
The best thing that came from /jp/ i would say

[Anonymous No.]

I thought you hated /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901731

But also rejected by /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

They are numerous places where good indie games are developed, but 4chan isn't going to be one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to try to make games, mostly platformers, using simple click and drag tools. Then I went to uni and learned a bit of programming. I graduated. Now I can't be bothered to do anything.

I'll try again one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901699

[Anonymous No.]

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2098410#p2100580

This was 5 months ago. Nothing new occured since then.

[Anonymous No.]

> collaborative project
not a chance, they make me do enough of those at work

> one guy who does everything
Working on this. It's fun, and you learn a lot. I'm always surprised at how long it takes though, and I'm never happy with my graphics/music, and it's easy to end up with a game that works but isn't any fun to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901802
He was being sarcastic (I HOPE TO GOD).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901802
There was Caster route. It was pretty good.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2901699
Well, I'm feeling particularly upbeat today, so I'll be back tonight to pep talk some folks here into wanting to work on a collaborative project or something with me. If nothing ends up happening, oh well, I won't lose anything. It's worth a try.

But I think we all have a lot of potential here as a group of people. You'll all just "
>/jp/
>potential"
but I think if some of us work together we can accomplish something and not just feel like balls all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

Me and another fellow /jp/ citizen I met through one of the threads here are working on a VN project. I'd post some of what I have done on my side, but I wouldn't feel comfortable without getting his approval first. So far we've been working on it for about a month or so, and things are going well. We still need to look into a possible engine to use as we are only working on the story and visuals at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901843
Great, I'll be there to troll it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901855
If you want help with scripting/engine stuff I'd be willing to help a bit, I'm not super experienced but I do code some.

[Anonymous No.]

Ambitious writefag-who-writes-novels-that-will-never-be-published / musicfag anon, I just rendered some shitty midi I wrote in high school in garageband and while I'm a NEET I spend a fuckton of time working on shit.

Due to the people saying music programs are too complicated I can write a tutorial for BAKA GAIJIN as most of the tutorials for various programs mean very little, and I proofread for a lit student / write my own crap 24/7 (it's probably bad, though!) so I can help people with that, too.

I'd really like to work on a project, so dummy email in email field if you'd like to get to know me. I lack confidence hugely so please be nice ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

I would, but I am highly suspicious of community projects. I have an unfounded belief that the majority of them will fizzle out of it's just a bunch of people together trying to make something and that the whole thing would generally be a big mess of everyone trying to force in what they think is awesome without a real direction. Instead I would rather work on the entire thing myself with a few people I can trust to workshop it, then worry about getting an artist or composer after everything else is ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901876
anonymity doesn't help, either, really; tripfags get flamed off of the board onto shitty things like that /jp/project one and working with people without names / registering interest with them is a fucking pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

And this is how original content threads ended.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2497816#p2504523

Fuck you, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

I can write and draw reasonably well, and I'm currently learning Python. I'm planning to try to make something by myself one day.

Collaborative projects seem not to come to anything. We all know what happened to the last /jp/ project, don't we? I wouldn't rule it out though; if anyone has any decent ideas please post them. Perhaps something will come of it this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901866
Send me an e-mail so we can talk about it more in detail, and probably give you some in progress artwork/text to work with to see what you can do. We are talking our time with this so there isn't a rush for anything to be done if you're more comfortable working in a lax project.

>>2901870
What are the extent of your abilities? So far the only music I can provide is pretty much metal styled guitar work.

[Anonymous No.]

If your project is cool I might be willing to work on art to whatever extent I can.
Depends on what's demanded. I can do sprites and animation, stellar background art may be a little trickier. I have no 2D character design experience, but I can follow a template.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901943

Doing things in email are we?
Well so much for /jp/ I guess.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2901855
I'm pretty good with music composition, if you need any music, broha.

If you have AIM, I can send you some samples or something? Given that you're serious about this VN, or even need help with music

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901943
>>2901870 here
I'll send you a link to my project's myspace oh god I've discredited myself already, if you'd like to know me musically. I'll type up an email once I've got this mastered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901855
Hahaha, I just happened to see your email. It's funny to see you in a thread now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902006
Please send me the link too - I'm currently working on another project, but maybe I could do some sprites or other stuff..

[Reaction Face Guy of /a/ !Ep8pui8Vw2 No.]

>>2901910

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901971
Got to sleep for work so I can't really follow this thread right now. E-mail is how me and the writer communicate idea's as randomly passing /jp/ threads aren't the best source of communication, but seeing as I only work on weekends I can try to accommodate you if you don't feel comfortable doing this through e-mail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902034
I've saved you both to notepad, hopefully I should have this done soon as it adds to what's on there already but if it's not in 2 or so hours time I'll just give up and send you both emails. I'll whack my MSN in there too if you're dirty perverts and get your rocks off to that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902022
Figured it would be a good idea to try and get some more people in on this at least in terms of working on coding the engine or using an existing engine to at least get a rough version of the VN done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902072
Mm, I agree, I knew we would have to ask more people to join eventually.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2902069
I sent you an email.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902048
Coding Anon here, dropped you a line.

[Anonymous No.]

I think there's a problem in the way a lot of people think when it comes to making a project. Most ideas that I've seen suggested are people emulating what's already been done, for example making a dating sim with a twist of having personified viruses(virusii?) and the super robot wars idea already suggested here.

I think this is rather harmful. For a real collaboration project between several individuals, I think it would be best to adopt a new style that forms to this instead of copying what's already been done. I'll use the example of a visual novel, most people see it as centering on one main character and going into routes based on choices. This will cause a lot of conflict when you have more than a couple people writing this, as several problems such as writing styles or incongruity may crop up.

An idea for a project that may work instead is work out the basis of the story then give everyone their own character and have them tell the story through that character. At the beginning, the player selects a character from the roster and then they proceed to view the story through their eyes. In this instance, different writing styles would lend themselves to having more diverse characters and different ways of viewing the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902083
I'll forward you some e-mails of people willing to work with us if you want to check out and if you want to pass on some questions. Also wanted to see if it was okay to send over the artwork I've shown you in terms of character design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902130
Okay, that sounds good. We'll work out some more details later on, I'm sure you probably want to get some sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902126
An episode centered VN would be another idea - Everybody writes or draws (or writes &draws) an episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902126
>>2902157
Something like Suika with multiple protagonist would work fine. It needs to be somewhat related to each other otherwise why not release the parts seperately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901639
Math is even easier to self-study. That is, of course, if you manage to read from a mathematician who actually could write...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902182
>Mathmatician ... can write
Doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902165
I would totally do such a project, anybody else want to participate? I could set up a blog for further discussion--

Inb4 wont happen- If everybody would just write&draw 1 episode it isn't this much work, but it could be really interesting to see how different artists would tell the same story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902229

I'm not an artist, but I'd be willing to join in the beginning and see if it'll develop into a kind of story I'd like to write.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902198
Try Descartes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902182
>mathematician could write

Does not compute.
Error, error.
Divide by zero error.
The universe will shut down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902265
Yeah, ditto
I'm no writer, but I've had a few ideas and who knows I might I even contribute

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902198
HURR
Russel ring a bell ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902126

Someone's got to be there to write the premise, the roster of characters and a justification for their existence, as well as to tie up all the diffuse story lines into one functional bundle, but I find it intriguing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902280
>>2902265
Cool, I've created a blog for discussing the game, let's discuss the things there, and also bump for moar partipiciants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902229

Sounds interesting. Something lightweight like that could actually get finished. Count me in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902323
Blog is here: http://episodevn.blogspot.com/

The first topic will be the basics of the gameplay & the szenario--

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902275
I have a giant boner for Descartes, good call. Anyway, the point is I haven't any good books that teach math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902337

Read Principia Mathematica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902326

Alright, going to bed now but I'll check back on it later.
Don't know how we can keep it from just being a bunch of guys roleplaying, but something good can come from that too, assuming we have decent writers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902348
I hope so too- I'll advertise it on some forums, as we're not really much participants for now.

[Spiral Dreamer !!gEboGl65CZ1 No.]

I have all these ideas swirling around in my head, ideas that I've had for as long as I could remember, but I've never been able to materialize them.

My ambition isn't strong enough. There are times when I'm heavily motivated to do something and I'll work on it for a few weeks weeks or so, and then for whatever reason just stop. I run into a wall maybe, and instead of trying to work through it I procrastinate and eventually just give up. That's basically the story of my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902347
Thanks, I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902363
Then just make a small story- That's the awesome thing regarding this format!

[Anonymous No.]

I've always been interested in developing a mobile game to start with, seeing as it is somewhat a realistic benchmark for someone to start with low overhead. Writing for me is easy modo and most games on that kind of platform aren't that in-depth (Not that I would mind trying to make a decent story.) and I have a variety of languages/platforms/etc. to use from J2ME for your average phone to Open GL 2.0 and such for the 3GS if I felt like making a fool of my self. I even plan on taking an internship as soon as possible just to get at least a feel for using basic programing enviroments.

If worse comes to worse, my waifu will comfort me through the bad times.

I don't know why people are so scared of audio editors/programs (I can understand actual composition.), most of them are rather user-friendly to begin with

>>2902126

That's very true, but at this point, anything /jp/ does that even resembles original content is better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

I've done countless games on my spare time. They just tend to never be finished, ugly and written in pirated software.

Image related. Hitting boxes rotates or shifts the world (player is static during this change). Intended to be a puzzle game, but since I can't think of the puzzles to solve it kind of got stuck there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902383
I can sympathize with them because DAWs have a lot of functionality integrated into one piece of software, and when you throw in VSTs it becomes even more overwhelming. Just takes a bit of getting used to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902084
I've not received it, so I'll get on my 10 year old AIM account and give you a nudge

to the others: I'll send you emails ASAP

[Anonymous No.]

>us
>tripfriend so new he isn't on the new-tripfriends list
No, OP, you are not one of us.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2902437
No problem. I wonder why you didn't receive it, though? You can try sending me an Email too, if you want. Maybe I typed your address in wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for more participants. Anyone that's interested in some kind of collaborative project go to this blog: http://episodevn.blogspot.com/

The more people involved the better/easier it will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902510
I think its best to stick to a single setting and use it during the whole game. Say like everyone is stuck on an island.

[Anonymous No.]

Set an IRC channel guys, that's way it's easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901823
Not incredibly. Well, it was a great effort and entertaining, though the writer really, really wasn't listening to most of the viewers most times.

Though reading through that got me in the mindset to try out my own hand at it. But 4chan fags about anything fanfic-related. Faggotry--Caster Route wasn't stellar, but it was refreshing and tasty for those of us who like words with our pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901582
FUND IT!

[Anonymous No.]

what's a tower defense game?

[Anonymous No.]

OP is a 16 year old tripfag. Not joking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902623
>16 year old
Too old, I want my shotas.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for more participants. Anyone that's interested in some kind of collaborative project go to this blog: http://episodevn.blogspot.com/

The more people involved the better/easier it will be.

[Anonymous No.]

Why won't you kids realize that this shit NEVER works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902437
I've sent emails.
>>2901870
Is me, by the way, and I'm still looking and can email anyone else who asks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902686
TO TROLL

[/b/tard of /jp/ !!N4vDj2gI/RZ No.]

guys if u r serious about this i can let u in on my project but u need 2 no i am head directer and u do wat i say r u out of it

[Anonymous No.]

Some character sets you guys might utilize
http://skimlines.deviantart.com/gallery/#_browse

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902748
Okay, where can I e-mail you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902748
jesus christ, you sound retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

Sending this to the ghost realm to promote original content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902326
Could you enable anonymous comments on your blog?

[Suigin !GaAaaaaaAY No.]

Nobody liked my idea ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902831
Oops, haven't seen this. Enabled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902876
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902686 Why won't you kids realize that this shit NEVER works.
Sadly, this man speaks the truth.

This is the last time I'm going to place my faith in you /jp/. If this gathering fails to bear fruit, I'll never post in another one of these threads again. I kid you not when I say group projects never work on 4chan (KS being the only exception). Personally, I believe these threads would serve a better purpose if we were to forgo the group project thing and agree to work separately on our own projects. Original content threads, such as this, could be used to swap information, ideals, and advice. Kinda like this >>2902347. Well, that's my two cents on this thread.

>>2902759
>>2902770
He's a registered troll offender. Why are you replying to a blatant troll? Honestly, if more people were to download the '4chan grease-monkey filter' we wouldn't have to put up with name field abusers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902955
YHBT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902831
>>2902876
Can we please refer to it as a devblog. Blog sounds kinda gay. And it's a good thing you enabled Anonymous posting.

[/b/tard of /jp/ !!N4vDj2gI/RZ No.]

>>2902831
>>2902994
y does it matter if ur anon r not? i thought /jp/ hated legion. its 2 hard to do stuff to if ur anon why not use a name so less confusing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902955
In which case, I'll get started on the tower defense game

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903014
/jp/ looves legiun, but is too tsundere to admit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2902876
What a strange blog, how come my comments aren't showing?

[Anonymous No.]

Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

I write mathematical programs for a living and have written for national papers. I wrote a game, then I realized I was too attached to it to ever let others fill in the pieces I'm unable to do, like music/art/blah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903109
What type of job is that? How much do you get paid?

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

Visit the "devblog".

Read my entry.

Discuss idea. Would anybody be interested in working on a serious project with me like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903152
I write academic papers on obscure subjects nobody cares about. They often end up in second-tier journals that are tangentially related to economics. I earn just over 80k, plus I get a lot of travel benefits to attend conferences. But you need a PhD.

[/b/tard of /jp/ !!N4vDj2gI/RZ No.]

u shud make a vn about this guy that got bowel problems n it always commin up at random times like the guys watching his friends loli for him but then she commin onto him n its hot but then he get bad gas n gotta shit so he run to the bathroom n when he done n come back the loli is gone and then a skeleton pops out

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903298
¦:|

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903298
Yeah, a VN based on the famous fart guy of /jp/ would be awesome... perhaps he'd like to write it himself!

[Anonymous No.]

I've actually been working off and on (well, very, very off I should say) on my own game for a while now. Progress is very slow as you can see from the attached image. This is just a test to show collision detection. I was also playing around with bullet velocities, which is why the shot is at such a strange angle in relation to the currently identically sprited ship. I dunno when or if I'll ever finish it, considering how much work I ever put into it at once, the fact that it's my first time doing this sort of thing, my inability to sprite worth shit, and the fact that I've no clue how to make sound effects. Thankfully, music is already taken care of for me.

It's very obviously a Touhou clone. I've a couple of interesting ideas I'm working out on how to set it apart from its obvious inspiration, the two biggest being cast and bomb mechanics. If I ever get to a point where I need to get some testers, I'll probably be coming here for help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903530
> I've a couple of interesting ideas I'm working out on how to set it apart from its obvious inspiration, the two biggest being cast and bomb mechanics.
More important is making it a good game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903543
Well very obviously. But making it a good game isn't something I can plan, it's only something I can do once I have it in front of me so I can identify where I went wrong and what needs fixing. How to make the game stand on its own as a shmup can be planned in advance and, very likely, ought to be since changing the code to adopt new mechanics once it's mostly finished would be terribly, terribly annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903530
>Shmup

Nice job pandering to /jp/. Never get into the gaming industry, all you'll ever be good for is churning out casual gamer games to the masses. Good job being original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903625
It's just what I felt like doing and I had a few ideas that I thought would be interesting to try out. Feel free to wear your tinfoil hat/trollface though.

[Anonymous No.]

stop spamen us u dumb chenturd's

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[Anonymous No.]

Making an eroge is not that hard. The problem is the music and the art.

[/b/tard of /jp/ !!N4vDj2gI/RZ No.]

>>2903717
but that IS hard

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>2902126
>>I think there's a problem in the way a lot of people think when it comes to making a project. Most ideas that I've seen suggested are people emulating what's already been done

I see nothing wrong with that. That's sort of the heart and soul of doujin/indie games anyways. It worked for say, Touhou and Rosenkreuzstilette. Those games offer nothing new gameplay-wise, but they're still wonderful; The people making them are hardcore game otaku who know what works in these types of games and what doesn't. For example, Japanese ZUN is an STG_Expert (over 500 STGs played).

Actually, I'd say that western indie game creators don't play enough games. So maybe the problem is that we're trying to emulate the wrong things. Please don't use Touhou as your inspiration for a STG; go load up MAME and learn from the many incredible arcade STGs.

Anyways, I'll never start my game until I'm happy with my art/sprite skills. I imagine that this will take another few years. But I am a perfectionist at heart, and I won't be satisfied until I can make an original Alucard-level walking animation for my loli main character.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>2903738
With 'Making an eroge' I meant the coding.

[Anonymous No.]

History repeats itself. This is like February all over again with the /jp/ project.

My only advice is to avoid making too many threads about your original content stuff, lest it start to attract too many cynical people (or those bent on trying to prevent something from happening).

[Anonymous No.]

Super Loli Wars

[Anonymous No.]

I always drop my projects before I finish them
My final project for uni is a cellphone game, the first I'll finish (pic related)

On most of my free time I mess with scripts/css

[Anonymous No.]

>>2903986
>>I see nothing wrong with that. That's sort of the heart and soul of doujin/indie games anyways. It worked for say, Touhou and Rosenkreuzstilette. Those games offer nothing new gameplay-wise, but they're still wonderful; The people making them are hardcore game otaku who know what works in these types of games and what doesn't. For example, Japanese ZUN is an STG_Expert (over 500 STGs played).


I think that the real heart of independent designers is creativity. They aren't bound by the trappings of an industry where profit means success, but have free reign to pursue experimental ideas. Although they may flop, like so many other games that build ontop of the foundations laid by others, the difference is that they'll have tried to be something else and that in itself can lead to a greater idea. I'm not saying that making a megaman-style platformer is bad, but that kind of thinking can lead to a person being trapped in only repeating what's already been done many times over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2904197
>My only advice is to avoid making too many threads about your original content stuff, lest it start to attract too many cynical people
Agreed.

The mods can (and will) start deleting these threads on contact if they become too (what's the word I'm looking for) abundant. Whatever you do, DO NOT turn this thread into a template e.g. http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S2041591

When you post, make sure you utilize sage to keep it off of the main page. Never forget what happened to the other string of '/jp/ project' threads - the janitors started to delete them because they were being overrun by non-believers. Just remember, if things get bad, we could use the ghost board. http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S2901494

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2904277
You made GTA 1 for a final project? Cool beans.

[Anonymous No.]

bampu for more rage ^__^;;

[Anonymous No.]

Why will I never be as cool as the MITfags from /prog/?

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2908658
Nobody cares. Your name is E-clops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2908663
How the hell can you read that name as E-clops?

[Anonymous No.]

Original Material Again? Actually the threads in the past didn't go so badly when 6 or so threads actually maxed out with progress.

>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2458937
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2436623
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2430042
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2424789
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2423861
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2471102
>>http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2485382

But anyways the problem came when we just tried to keep the threads up 24/7. People just don't work that fast. Might as well just have two threads per week, 1 for weekdays and 1 for weekends. Having breaks is a good thing.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2908737
It sounds like an Aztec name

[Anonymous No.]

>>2908737
Can we just call you Eskimo?

[Anonymous No.]

That would actually require some knowledge and/or skills.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the progress report? Has this thread produced any thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2909898
http://episodevn.blogspot.com/2009/07/gameplay-szenario.html#comments
Some guy has taken a role as the leader and is trying to organize stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

bampu

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a professional game dev, experienced in 3D engine development, and as such have no time to do a hobby Touhou game on the side as much as I want to.

Will code Touhou if someone tells me how to do that and have money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2910909

Are you saying you work 80+ hour weeks? Having a job hardly means you have no free time.

I'm not a game developer, but I'm a professional programmer and still have plenty of time for hobby projects. It's not like you are churning out the next AAA title in your spare time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2910964
>Are you saying you work 80+ hour weeks?
Welcome to the videogame industry.

[Anonymous No.]

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[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>2910909
>>Will code Touhou if someone tells me how to do that and have money.

Work for Taito like Japanese ZUN!

But seriously, I'm sure he had long work weeks as well. He is probably just a god tier game dev.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, /jp/, you already have an artist that is better than 95% of you guys:

http://jpproject.2ksite.com/heavy-metal-girl-madonna-episode-1-humble-beginning--t74s50.html

Yeah, he's fucking insane. But I'd like to see anyone here do better.

*POOF*... disappears

[Virus Guy No.]

>>2911042

I already said it once, mugenjohncel will be the first to finish a /jp/ project... all by himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2911042
sup mugen

Your VN sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2911042
>SOMEONE OUT THERE IS BETTER AT WHAT I DO THAN ME! THAT MEANS EVERYTHING I DO IS WORTHLESS AND I SHOULD JUST SPEND THE REST OF MY TIME DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2911042
sup mugen. your self-confession of you being a poof gave you away.

>>2911071
he may complete it first, but its not a collaborative project as he done it all by himself. last i checked in the old archives, jp project were meant to be "randum jpers coming together to make shit"

[Anonymous No.]

I've been banned from the ghost board.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2911777
you are the ghost of a ghost

[mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU No.]

>>2911073
>>2911419
But that wasn't me... I never post without my tripcode.

>>2911419
It is collaborative work my friend. I write horrible ZUN will provide good music and several very good english speakers promised to help me to improve my horrible english. But first, I must show them a complete project before I ask for help. This should be fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2911981
You scenario writing sucks as well, and cannot be fixed by simply hiring an editor or two.

Hire a dedicated writer.

[mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU No.]

>>2912000
Well, the scenario is complete. It is a short revenge driven VN divided into 8 episodes and that is a good thing since everything is now easier to plan. All it needs is polish.

>This is my original writting
"If you are wondering who that grouchy old man is, he is my Papa."
"Papa and I live in this small house here on Settlement 69."
"Papa used to be a Guardog."
"Now, Papa fries lizard."
"Not only fried Lizard, Papa also fry other small animals."
"And sometimes Papa even fry larger ones... but Papa cuts them to tiny pieces."
"After frying and putting them on sticks I sell them in the morning while Papa watches over the store."
"In the afternoon, we switch places and Papa goes out while I watch over the store."
"Better get my face washed before Papa gets angry again..."

>This one is written by a very good english speaker
"so this is my life.
papa and I live together in a small house in settlement 69.
way back when, papa worked as a Guardog in the army, until he got fired for chewing a man's face off.
Now he sells fried lizards to fat tourists.
well, not just lizards, anything he can find really. The rumor around town is he even fries up homeless people on occassion too. I help out with cooking in the back during the lunch crowd, and then papa leaves the store to me and goes out and does who knows what."

Sure, there are few conflicts with original story but that can be edited. I will give people who helped me make this VN proper credit.

Also, I have big plans for this... after VN is finish... I will see if someone is willing to produce an animation based on this and profit will be equally divided to people who helped me make this... Still farfetched dream I know but who knows... just maybe...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2911071
>>mugenjohncel will be the first to finish a /jp/ project...

It's not a /jp/ project because mugen isn't /jp/. Considering how people obviously have feelings ranging form dislike to disdain for his admitted little troll-project, it's not fair to attribute his insanity as a collective representation of the entire board.

[mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU No.]

>>2912038
For that I apologize. I still don't understand why people hate me for being me. But the rest of /jp/ project don't deserve to get the same hate and rage usually thrown at my direction. People if you need to hate someone, go ahead... please hate me instead... do not worry, I'm used to it but please do not hate the other good people of /jp/ project.

[『五角场 之 無名氏』 No.]

>>2912076
I didn't have a reason to hate you John, but please stop being a white knight or I will really come to dislike you.

[mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU No.]

>>2912083
May I humbly ask, what is this White Knight term you talking about?... I've seen it used in this forum several times...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2912076
I don't see what's wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.]

> has anybody here ever considered making your own games or anything?
A while back I got a great idea for a Touhou-Fallout game. Tons of bullets like in Touhou but the view, movement, etc from Fallout and dodging would primarily be done by stat checks. Projectiles wouldn't be instant like in Fallout, but would move at the same time the characters did.

However I'm a lazy son of a bitch, plus I'm using SDL without actually knowing much about graphical functions, game design, etc. When I'm actually working on it progress is slow, and I'm usually not working on it. I think the ~30 FPS while drawing a bunch of tiles is a great example of me fucking up somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not white-knighting. It's more acting like a martyr. Do you want a step-ladder so you can nail yourself to the cross easier?

[Distraction Penis !NrbJY1xcPg No.]

I have a project in the works that I am currently designing from the ground up. It's not ready for the eyes of 4chan yet certainly but hopefully in a few months there will be some things that will make people care and not just troll my site. Here's hoping you interested few still care then...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2912106
>this forum
Well, seems that I've found a reason to hate you.

[Hanyū !SbmJYlHAUU No.]

I can write, but my creativity is gone. So I sit around... "Wouldn't it be great to write about this? Ohhh, it would be really fun to write about this!" but I never get past a paragraph. Hau auu...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2912121
Sorry, who are you?

[Distraction Penis !NrbJY1xcPg No.]

>>2912143
Some guy. Who the fuck cares who I am?

[Anonymous No.]

Distraction clit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2901564
fuck you i loved HRtP!

[Anonymous No.]

derp

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody start a new thread once this thread reaches its bump limit. Also, make sure the new thread is NOT obnoxious. See: >>2904705

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

http://episodevn.blogspot.com/2009/07/gameplay-szenario.html

[Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs No.]

If there's some kind of ambitious /jp/ game I volunteer to do the music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2913389
We will use your already released album, don't bother yourself.

[Traavy Tripfag !!pYkN8+/vJA9 No.]

>>2913389
I planned on working on the music once we got the ball rolling with what's going on here http://episodevn.blogspot.com/2009/07/gameplay-szenario.html, but given that you're a capable musician, I don't see why you shouldn't be a part of it all.

If you're interested, read through the whole thing there, you might not be interested from the first few posts, but some different ideas start coming up before long.

[Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs No.]

>>2913409

No, my music is better now, I have been training in secret to reveal my true musical genius.

[Anonymous No.]

This shit isn't going to work out unless you've got motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2913424
Hey dollfagers, when is your next single coming out?

[Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs No.]

>>2913501

August.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Whatever you make, just be sure to have most of your characters be the little girl.

It worked for Japanese ZUN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2913663
>ZUN !barYV1VtIA

[YUJIRO !i0DMX0LJOo No.]

A friend of mine and I have been working on a VN project for 2 years now.
I do the writing, he does the art.

It's coming along at a good pace but recently he hit his head and needed stitches. Wish him well, he's a fantastic artist and you'll be amazed at what he can do.

eos-project.us is the unbuilt domain name, i'm in the midst of getting it up and running. anyway, expect an action-packed VN with animated parts and scripting involving giant robots and shit in about a year or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>has anybody here ever considered making your own games or anything
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if this thread is still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2913760,1
I've managed to load it a few times. It's certainly not getting pushed off since zip is down.

[Anonymous No.]

New thread, where?

[Anonymous No.]

herp derp FIOC

[Anonymous No.]

>>2913760,3
I don't see why you can't just continue using this thread in ghost mode.

Other than the absolute lack of activity whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

There's an OC thread at >>2932136 . Creating your own game counts as OC