Would /jp/ anons be considered otaku's or weeaboos? To my understanding, weeaboos love Japan regardless of how shitty 3D Japanese culture is but since most of us hate Japan, would that push us more to the Otaku side?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:49:49 2009 No.2895638 [Reply] [Original]

Would /jp/ anons be considered otaku's or weeaboos? To my understanding, weeaboos love Japan regardless of how shitty 3D Japanese culture is but since most of us hate Japan, would that push us more to the Otaku side?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:49:49 2009 No.2895643 WE'RE JUST NERDS, OK!?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:50:49 2009 No.2895651 We like to distance ourselves from weeaboos, but it's exactly what we are. We aren't otaku because we aren't japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:50:49 2009 No.2895653 I don't know. I don't dedicate my life to Japanese shit, but I enjoy VNs and Touhou and I'll buy merchandise occasionally. Other than that I play regular video games as well and read books.

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Sat Jul 4 12:52:49 2009 No.2895661 Otaku is moon for nerd, baka. We're not from the moon, so we're just ordinary nerds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:52:49 2009 No.2895663 Otaku is something weeaboos call themselves to sound cool We're weeaboos

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:53:49 2009 No.2895674 We are what we are. One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:55:49 2009 No.2895680 /jp/ anons are ''otaku'' if we use the term in its westernized meaning. Just like we use ''anime'' and ''manga'' to mean Japanese cartoons/comics.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Jul 4 12:56:49 2009 No.2895685 Weeaboo is a person who wants to be japanese

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:57:49 2009 No.2895693 We're not weeaboo. We don't buy pocky shit or want to live in Japan because we think Japan is awesome or anything. Those that want to live in Japan want to because of comiket and there are shops which cater to their tastes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:57:49 2009 No.2895696 I hate Japan period

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:57:49 2009 No.2895700 >most of us hate Japan Speak yourself, bro. I don't have any reason to hate Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:58:49 2009 No.2895705 personally I think of 'weeaboo' as being similar to the idea behind 'wigger'. 'Otaku' is just a quasi-NEET with too many figs and posters etc. "so moe~"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:59:49 2009 No.2895713 The only reason I even like VNs and Touhou are because I'm a NEET and I need something to pass time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:00:49 2009 No.2895717 >>2895713 Because Touhou and VNs are the only free media available on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:01:49 2009 No.2895721 >>2895705 >'Otaku' is just a quasi-NEET Otaku is actually "nerd". In itself it has nothing to do with hot gluing figmas and fucking dakimuras.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:01:49 2009 No.2895722 I think that most of us here don't hate Japan, per se, we just hate the fact that if Japan somehow stopped existing, we would all be bored out of our skulls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:02:49 2009 No.2895734 >>2895722 >we just hate the fact that if Japan somehow stopped existing, we would all be bored out of our skulls. What? That would be the best thing ever. I would actually get a life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:02:49 2009 No.2895735 >>2895717 ...point being?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:07:49 2009 No.2895778 >>2895734 Do you really think that you would be able to?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:11:49 2009 No.2895800 >>2895735 To me, you came off as implying that Touhou and VNs are the only things available for you to pass the time with, when obviously that's not true. I would think, you do them because you like them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:12:49 2009 No.2895807 >>2895734 There are NEETs that are only in to western media.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:16:49 2009 No.2895830 >>2895800 Well, for one thing, I'm not actually the original poster you were replying to, but I couldn't just let it slide. MY point is there was never any suggestion that Touhou and VNs were the SOLE form of entertainment, just rationale.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:21:49 2009 No.2895867

>>2895830

He sounded like he does not actually like them very much and only does them because there is nothing else he can do or something. There's a lot of stuff out there to choose from. If you're only interested in something because you're a NEET, then obviously you've chosen the wrong hobby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:25:49 2009 No.2895893 >>2895867 >does not actually like them very much I made a different assumption, in that he's only mentioning what's actually relevant to the thread and to the board, like a decent poster would. >wrong hobby I don't follow the logic behind that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:28:49 2009 No.2895912 I don't hate Japan, I'm indifferent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:30:49 2009 No.2895918 Western equivalent of NEET: Shut-in or Basement/Cellar Dweller

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:30:49 2009 No.2895924

>>2895893

>I made a different assumption, in that he's only mentioning what's actually relevant to the thread and to the board, like a decent poster would.

Well whether it's relevant or not doesn't change my point.

>I don't follow the logic behind that.

Why would someone spend their type doing something they dislike when there's plenty of other things out there to choose from? I don't see what being a NEET has to do with Touhou and VNs. I'm a NEET, but if I was not interested in anime, VNs, etc. I wouldn't bother with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:35:49 2009 No.2895956 Japan hates you though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:38:49 2009 No.2895978

I think I'm pretty unique in this community....

I don't really have a reason to hate Japan because I've never been there, and I only know a few Japanese people through my job, but I will say that I am terrified of Japan for some reason. Every time a Japanese friend from the Tokyo branch of our company asks me to visit, I decline the invitation because the thought of setting foot in Japan scares the fuck out of me. I guess I'm some kind of Japanophobe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:41:49 2009 No.2895996 >>2895696 ADN MANGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:43:49 2009 No.2896010 >>2895996 GAYMEN!

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Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:52:49 2009 No.2896071

>>2895978
Me too actually, Japan scares the shit out of me. I don't think I would last long there on a casual trip, I'm somehow imagening that I would go nuts and become paranoid.

The way I see it there's much goodies spawning from their popculture, but there is so much wrong with that country as a society.

Spiral Dreamer !!gEboGl65CZ1 Sat Jul 4 13:52:49 2009 No.2896078

People can talk about Japanese usage all they want but that's really irrelevant. Out in most of the West(America at least), it's used to describe a specific type of nerd.

Now I would generally not go around calling myself an otaku because I think it sounds ridiculously stupid, but as far as it being a term to describe people who invest significant amount of time with what's considered "otaku culture", I don't really care.

And I don't have any reason to hate Japan. I also find Japanese culture(East Asian culture as a whole though) really interesting.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:56:49 2009 No.2896097

>>2896071
>>2895978

What do you guys have against Japan? It's really not a bad place.

>The way I see it there's much goodies spawning from their popculture, but there is so much wrong with that country as a society.

Because there's nothing wrong with Western society? I bet you're going to call Japan "xenophobic" or something, and be completely oblivious to how ironic that would be coming from you.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:14:49 2009 No.2896195

>>2896097
I can see the irony, thank you. I can also see that you want my reasons for disliking Japan as a society. I'll keep it short: the view on women. In Japan it's still like in the good old fifties - man finds work and woman, makes a family, and the woman remains lucked up in the house. I don't need to say anything more than that, it's no joke that men are more highly regarded than women in Japan. And why do you think the Japanese population is getting awfully old? Well, Japanese women found out that finding a man and making a family beheld less benefits than screwing the whole thing, get a career and live with mom and pops.

There you go.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:20:49 2009 No.2896229

And honestly, don't get me started on e.g. the American way. BUT, I think there's a small change going on. By all means no revolution, but a small step in the right direction. Japan on the other hand have been sticking to their old fashioned ways for ever. I don't think they'll change their ways untill they get burnt, real bad. It'll be exciting to see wether the demographic or the economic crisis gets them first.

Oh, and I forgot to add elitism to my little reasonings. That shouldn't be too hard to swallow. I could get into detail if you wanted though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:21:49 2009 No.2896232

>>2896195

Everything you learned about Japan is obviously from trolls on /jp/. This is sad.

And either way, I don't see how that has anything to do with being in the country. Even if what you were saying was not a completely exaggeration, it's not like Japan is like some middle eastern country where women will be stoned for having premarital sex. And I assuming you're not a woman so none of this affects you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:26:49 2009 No.2896258 >>2896097 I'm >>2895978 and while I fully knowledge that there is much to like about Japan and it's a very safe place, I can't shake the feeling that I would be killed if I went there. I'm sorry I can't explain it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:27:49 2009 No.2896268 >>2896258 >I can't shake the feeling that I would be killed if I went there Are you Korean or Chinese? If not then you have nothing to worry about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:31:49 2009 No.2896294 >>2896258 Japan doesn't have a law against racial discrimination. But I don't think they'll kill you.

>>	Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs Sat Jul 4 14:34:49 2009 No.2896305 The word otaku makes me think of Bleachfags and the like, weeaboo makes me think of fat nerds with neckbeards. Its sort of annoying, to be honest.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:37:49 2009 No.2896317

>>2896268

No, I'm American (Finnish and French Canadian mix to be exact).
I know it's absurd, but I would shrink into a nervous mess unable to leave the hotel room in Japan out of fear that I would be jumped by some nationalist right-wing crazy and stabbed to death.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:40:49 2009 No.2896331

>>2896232
How rude, I don't lurk on /jp/; just passing by, really. I can assure you that I've done my research on Japan. I don't know Japan in the way that I've fealt it, I just look at different reliable sources and spot
miscellaneous connection which makes me curious. But by all means, lets not generalize, Japan isn't a small country. We're discussing tendencies right? I'm not saying that my words are hard facts, and you have no reason to regard them as it. Surely I'm just a troll since I speak words that are not of your taste...

Anyway, either you're the cynical person or I'm the melodramatic person. I'm probably the one with issues though; I mean, why the hell should I care if there's certain ethic issues here and there in a foreign country? Japan was a country with huge possibilities, and still is in several ways. I do think though that they never truly let go of their old militarism. I mean, it worked pretty well for them untill someone dropped the bomb on them. Japan is a country were only the strongest prevail, even though it never had to be that way, there's little room for the little guys. That's my issue with Japan.

Fin

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:52:49 2009 No.2896372 I'm half asian, and I essentially look like an asian with slightly rounder eyes and natural auburn hair. Would they hate me even more because I'm of impure blood?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:59:49 2009 No.2896403 You'll be the center of the party if you have really big eyes, a round face, and a cute ahoge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:34:49 2009 No.2896862 >otaku makes me think of Bleachfags and the like Wut? Bleachfags are usually annoying fanboy types, rather than actual otakus. They are the kind of people who brag about how the only anime they watch are endless shounen series.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:41:49 2009 No.2896892

For me, I define "weeaboos" as non-Japanese people with an interest in the niche Japanese culture like anime, manga, visual novels, figurines, other doujinshi, and the like. By that definition, most /jp/ anon's (and a portion of /a/, maybe even /v/'s userbase) would be weeaboos.

On the other hand, I separate weeaboos from wapanese, which I define as the non-Japanese people who think Japan is the best country, Japanese culture is the best, have an obsession with Japan, want to live in Japan, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:42:49 2009 No.2896899 >>2896892 You do know Weeaboo is just a wordfilter for wapanese, do you ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:46:49 2009 No.2896929 >>2896899 was. just like idort was a mispelling of idiot at first.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:48:49 2009 No.2896937

>>2896899
yes. which i why i went out of the way to describe it as my own definition. in time i thought it was necessary to provide separate meanings for the terms weeaboo and wapanese in order to more accurately categorize different groups of people. but i am fully aware that originally those two words meant the same thing.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:02:49 2009 No.2897008 >>2896937 >in time i thought it was necessary to provide separate meanings for the terms weeaboo and wapanese in order to more accurately categorize different groups of people >I'm better than those other narutards, I really am!

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Sat Jul 4 17:03:49 2009 No.2897012 >>2896991 And you're about to get some hot dickings.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 17:06:29 2009 No.2897028 [DELETED]

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>>2896899

>speaks the truth.

Weeaboo is just a wordfilter for Wapanese.

YOU ARE ALL FUCKING WEEABOOS.

Including you, you, and that guy over there.

You're weeaboo just for posting on 4chan, a shitty knockoff of a Japanese board. By using 4chan you are admitting to your weeaboo nature.

There is definition for Weeaboo. Weeaboo is wordfilter for Wapanese. You are all Wapanese if you have even the slightest interest in Japanese pop culture, without exception.

Shut the fuck up. Seriously, newfags these days, trying to be fucking edgy and LOLRANDUM by making up their own definitions for words that ALREADY HAVE SET MEANININGS. 'Weeaboo' is the wordfilter for 'Wapanese'. Get the fuck out of here with your goddamn EDiot self. I fucking raged my face off just seeing ten percent of the posts in this thread by newfag fucktards. I can't even fathom why a thread with people using the word 'otaku' seriously isn't being saged to oblivion.

Fucking weekend, I swear to God...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:06:49 2009 No.2897030 >>2896991 I'm currently very depressed and fapping, so source?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 17:07:49 2009 No.2897033
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>>2896899

>speaks the truth.

Weeaboo is just a wordfilter for Wapanese.

YOU ARE ALL FUCKING WEEABOOS.

Including you, you, and that guy over there.

You're weeaboo just for posting on 4chan, a shitty knockoff of a Japanese board. By using 4chan you are admitting to your weeaboo nature.

There is definition for Weeaboo. Weeaboo is wordfilter for Wapanese. You are all Wapanese if you have even the slightest interest in Japanese pop culture, without exception.

Shut the fuck up. Seriously, newfags these days, trying to be fucking edgy and LOLRANDUM by making up their own definitions for words that ALREADY HAVE SET MEANINGS. 'Weeaboo' is the wordfilter for 'Wapanese'.
Get the fuck out of here with your goddamn EDiot self. I fucking raged my face off just seeing ten percent of the posts in this thread by newfag fucktards. I can't even fathom why a thread with people using the word 'otaku' seriously isn't being saged to oblivion.

Fucking weekend, I swear to God...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:10:49 2009 No.2897049 File: 12 KB, 160x148, weeaboo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >weeaboo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:11:49 2009 No.2897053 >>2897033 >>Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:12:49 2009 No.2897058 >>2897033 >YOU ARE ALL FUCKING WEEABOOS. Including you, you, and that guy over there. You're weeaboo just for posting on 4chan >JP R LEGIUN XDDD >newfags This isn't your blog. Take your nerdrage back to /b/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:13:49 2009 No.2897065 >>2896991 Anyone got source on that, anyway ?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 17:17:49 2009 No.2897091
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>>2897053
>>2897058
>>2897058

>butthurt newfriends

Telling people to go back to /b/? Gee, I wonder if that's because that's the only board you knew about prior to coming here. Shut the fuck up.

>>	The /jp/ Police !3GqYIJ3Obs Sat Jul 4 17:18:49 2009 No.2897099 >>2897091 Reported for flaming

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Jul 4 17:18:49 2009 No.2897100 File: 47 KB, 757x561, 1218003213457.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2897033 I always wondered, are you this Arc-chan guy?

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 17:20:49 2009 No.2897105 >>2897100 No, I don't post on Blowtax's forum because I am not a faggot. I have an account there, kiddies, so you can shut up about me not having any money to play TENBUX to get in. But I don't post. I lurk.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Jul 4 17:21:49 2009 No.2897115 >>2897105 Oh, I do the same

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:22:49 2009 No.2897119 >>2897105 So you payed 10 dollars not to post. Nice, dude.

>>	The /jp/ Police !3GqYIJ3Obs Sat Jul 4 17:23:49 2009 No.2897120 >>2897105 >I am not a faggot Reported for unrealistic judgement

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:27:49 2009 No.2897132 >>2897120 I love you, Police.

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>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 17:31:49 2009 No.2897149 >>2897119 Yes. You got a problem with that, chucklefuck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:35:49 2009 No.2897169 >>2896991 >Masturbating while watching porn and crying. HAWT

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:15:49 2009 No.2897319

>>2897008
That 's just stupid. I never said anything about "one group is better than another" or "I'm part of a group which I consider superior to another group, and do not wish to be associated with the other group". People felt the need to categorize and differentiate between ethnicities--East Asians, MIddle Easterners, Caucasians, Africans, etc. Even if some of these terms have positive/negative connotations attached to them, their denotations do not imply any racial superiority of a particular group.

So then, what is wrong with categorizing people with different kinds of interest in Japan?

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat Jul 4 19:34:49 2009 No.2897675 File: 64 KB, 692x519, marimite_shirt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2895638 That guy's shirt is so awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:38:49 2009 No.2897702 >>2897675 I know. I want one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:44:49 2009 No.2897726 >Would /jp/ anons be considered Losers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:46:49 2009 No.2897734

3D Japanese culture (traditional in this case) at least has substance and takes at least a smidgen of intelligence to appreciate.
Let's be frank, otaku culture in contrast is easily digestible and is catered precisely to the lowest common denominator. It's like saying the powerpuff girls is better than the entire catalogue of western literature.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:48:49 2009 No.2897742 >>2897734 >powerpuff girls is better than the entire catalogue of western literature. Depending on what you consider western, it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:02:49 2009 No.2897798 >>2896372 ... lick...

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