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2866225 No.2866225 [Reply] [Original]

why are all the people in anime white?

Not once have I seen a Japanese person in an anime.

>> No.2866232

They're all Japanese

>> No.2866233

You don't watch all that much anime.

>> No.2866239

lol

>> No.2866242

Because the Japanese realize how ugly they are, and are ashamed of it.

>> No.2866278

>>2866225

Because the Japanese realize how uncannily they resemble coreans and chinks, who they despise, that they engage in fantasy escapism in the form of making themselves look caucasian in all their drawn media.

>> No.2866362
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2866362

Some of them look pretty Japanese. Like this one.

>> No.2866386
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2866386

What's the matter? Not JAPANESE enough for you?

>> No.2866405

>>2866225
They aren't. If you've ever seen anime characters who are actually supposed to be caucasian, you would understand that the Japanese have different racial distinctions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9PhcyNdS3k

>> No.2866422

>>2866405
that is, the Japanese MAKE different racial distinctions.

>> No.2866426

Race distinctions is 3D pig disgusting. That's why 2D characters generally don't look like they have a race.

>> No.2866437
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2866437

You can tell right off the bat who's American.
They're always depicted as barbarians.

>> No.2866441

All Japanese 2D characters are super Aryans.

>> No.2866462

>>2866405
How racist.

>> No.2866517

>>2866462
I'm not sure if the episode's villain turning into a racial cariacature of himself is racist considering that its supposed to reflect his inner self, being secretly spiteful and xenophobic instead of the typical friendly gaijin character....

okay its totally racist.

>> No.2866569

>>2866405
I'm not sure what you're trying to show here. All the characters look equally white, apart from one having a big nose. Which then turns into a monster, negating any possible point.

Regardless, the Japanese DO draw themselves as if they weren't Asian. Despite being so similar to Chinese and Koreans that many Koreans are able to live in Japan without having to deal with racism solely because most people can't tell them apart, the Japanese will invariably draw other Asians much the way the West sees them, while drawing their own people closer to the appearance of whites.

This is well documented.

>> No.2866587

If you haven't noticed Japanese skin is actually pretty pale. And animu facial features don't really even look Caucasian or Asian.

>> No.2866605

White people have saucer-sized eyes and pink hair.

>> No.2866623

>>2866569
>Despite being so similar to Chinese and Koreans that many Koreans are able to live in Japan without having to deal with racism solely because most people can't tell them apart

Yeah, you're making yourself look pretty dumb. Just because you personally can't tell the difference between the Japanese and Chinese doesn't mean that racial distinctions don't exists, because they do, in the facial bone structures. You could argue that they aren't significant, but any actual native of those asian countries can tell the difference between the different races easily.

>> No.2866641

>>2866623
Can you tell the difference between a person from Russia and a person from Ukraine by looking at their faces?

>> No.2866657

>>2866623
>Just because you personally can't tell the difference between the Japanese and Chinese doesn't mean that racial distinctions don't exists

Anyone who knows anything about the human genome would disagree with you.

>> No.2866660

watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsaReX4ej0

it explains it pretty well.

>> No.2866704
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2866704

octopus lips has always clearly been oriental of some sort.

>> No.2866712

>>2866657
Alright, so the Koreans and Chinese descendants currently residing in Japan are facing racism because....they showed off their birth certificates?

>> No.2866727
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2866727

THIS IS HOW ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE MUST BE DRAWN

IF THEY ARE NOT DRAWN LIKE THIS THEN THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN BE JAPANESE

>> No.2866734

>>2866712
Believe it or not, that's the answer in many cases. If you apply for a job or want to get married, in many cases, the party in question will check your family background, their documentation, et al.

Do you know about the Burakumin? They're "Japanese," yet they face similar sorts of discrimination.

>> No.2866744

>>2866657
Thousands of years of separation is sufficient for minor changes in the gene pool... There is SOME difference, not terribly large but it's there.

>> No.2866755
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2866755

Because large eyes that are taller than they are wide and take up 50% of a character's head, a fern-like mane of neon blue hair, a mouth capable of opening wide enough to swallow it's prey whole, a little triangle for a nose, and lack of facial detail are all things we associate with "white" people, amirite?

>> No.2866756

>>2866660

Ha ha, I love the bit where the original text of "whites experience racism in Japan" is covered up by an annotation.

I think characters in anime aren't clearly either white or Japanese. They're just too stylised to be able to say which they most resemble. Very often characters that are not from Japan look identical to ones from Japan, so it's a moot point.

>> No.2866772

>>2866660
i like this

>> No.2866809

>>2866569

>the Japanese will invariably draw other Asians much the way the West sees them, while drawing their own people closer to the appearance of whites.

Yeah, I was always amazed at how Shampoo from Ranma 1/2 was such a slant-eyed bucktoothed yellow-skinned oriental compared to the rest of the wide-eyed, pale-faced cast. Just like how everyone draws Hong Meiling differently from all the other Touhous. And don't forget that Hei guy from Darker than Black, faggot stuck out like a sore yellow thumb in a sea of proud white fingers. Obviously the Japs draw the Chinese nothing like they draw themselves.

>> No.2866819

>>2866744
>thousands of years of separation

Do you really believe this? Just so you know, it has no basis in fact. It's had constant contact with the mainland through its entire history from the Yayoi period onward and with regards to the west, it maintained close relations with the Dutch from the 17th century onwards.

Or did you forget about its writing system, its chief religion for most of its history (Buddhism) and the similarities of the Heian court bureaucracy to the early Han dynasty's?

>> No.2866825

Holy shit, down blouse of Ed existed?! Why does she have no nipple?

>> No.2866828

>>2866819
You know theres a difference between "intimate separation" and "cultural separation"

>> No.2866840

>>2866828
Inner city America would disagree with you.

>> No.2866849

>>2866819
What so because they had contact with the Dutch they now all have Dutch heritage? What are you on about?

>> No.2866854

>>2866809
>Obviously the Japs draw the Chinese nothing like they draw themselves.

They've been doing it for decades, actually.

http://www.east-asian-history.net/textbooks/Slideshows/S-J_War/med_res/sld001.htm

>> No.2866879

>>2866849
What I'm saying is that to suggest that Japan was isolated for most of its history flies in the face of all evidence and to suggest that there's some sort of ethnic homogeneity is stupid because it's a social construct with no basis in empirical science or historical fact.

What makes your statement even more absurd is that even if we (wrongly) assume that there was never any foreign contact and the 11s were a secluded and "racially pure" country, how do you think the Japanese islands were populated to begin with?

>> No.2866891

>>2866712
There are certain sounds that natrual born Koreans can't pronounce that the Japanese can. This is how they found and persecuted Koreans before the out break of WW2.

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2866915

DEPICTED HERE IS A WHITE FEMALE WITH HER EYES CLOSED

>> No.2866928

USA+Japan+Australia vs. China+N.Korea+S.Korea.

Which does your country support?

>> No.2866938

>>2866928
Are you fucking stupid? Why the fuck would South Korea ever go in with china and/or the North?

>> No.2866939

>>2866928
Go back to bed, kid.

>> No.2866943

>>2866891
Bullshit.

>> No.2866945
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2866945

>>2866819
>Yayoi period

>> No.2866953

>>2866891
Are you 70 years old?
You are brainwashed by the government if you are younger than 70 years old.
The Korean misfortune is Korean War.
The Korea government covers the fact.

>> No.2866965

>>2866943
Do some Historical/Linguistic research.

>> No.2866969

>>2866938
Korea is anti-USA, an anti-Japan.
The present Presidents are slightly different.
It is only the time of now, too.

>> No.2866974

>>2866879
What I'M saying is that the original settlers mostly fucked amongst themselves for thousands of years causing genetic differences between them and the Chinese. I know they weren't culturally isolated, I never said that. That's got nothing to do with genetics, though.

>> No.2866975

>>2866225

Nice trolling bro.

>> No.2866979

>>2866965
How about you show me some reliable source.

>> No.2866984

>>2866969
see
>>2866939

>> No.2866985

>>2866953
English isn't your native language is it? I'm not excatly sure why my Government would choose to put out historical monographs and pose as professors simply to fool history majors and other history advocates. And what does the Korean War have to do with this? Did you even understand what I was saying?

>> No.2866991

>>2866965
Obviously you haven't done any. Any human can pronounce any sounds of any language, providing they have mass input from that language at a very young age.

>> No.2866998

>>2866991
Obviosuly you can't read. As I said "native born Koreans", meaning those that immigrated to Japan and were not born there, never getting the chance to learn some of the more subtle pronounciations. I doubt that if you or any other person with no background in bantu moved to somalia (they speak that there right?) they would be able to master the sounds and pronounciations of the language with no formal training.

>> No.2867003

>>2866969
You should become honest.
A fact understands that you are stupid.
Korea was not a democratic country.
It is these days that Korea became the democratic country.
It is a still childish democratic country.
The former President committed suicide.
Many Presidents are condemned criminals.

In such a country, I cannot recite the correct history.

>> No.2867004

>>2866979
Mosley, Leonard. "Hirohito: Emperor of Japan" Prentince Hall Publishing. 1966. It talks extensively on what happened in Japan prior to World War II.

>> No.2867009
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2867009

what nationality is this face?

A basic representation of a person lacking any distinct racial characteristics is almost universally recognized by the viewer subconsciously as belonging to the same group as themselves. The animation style dictates a relatively simple to draw face with keys on magnified visual cues for expression. The Japanese don't make the characters look Caucasian, they just don't use exaggerated foreign stereotypes in their homegrown artwork.

>> No.2867010

>>2866998
You said sounds, not pronunciations.

>> No.2867012

>>2866969
....If this were true we'd be at war right now.

>> No.2867016

>>2867009
That's clearly a yellow smiley face. So he's Yellow.

>> No.2867021

>>2867010
What are you nit-picking words now? There is no difference. You pronounce a word, meaning you make the sounds that are attributed to that word in whatever language you happen to be speaking.

>> No.2867022

>>2867004
I said reliable.

>> No.2867024

In the country where a military regime led to for a long time, they do not have the correct history interpretation.
By time when Korea democratized it, a correction of the history interpretation under the dictatorial regime is necessary.

Current Korea is not the time.

>> No.2867033

>>2867021
>What are you nit-picking words now? There is no difference.
There is.

>> No.2867059

>>2867021
>You pronounce a word, meaning you make the sounds that are attributed to that word in whatever language you happen to be speaking.
That's not how sounds made by humans work.

>> No.2867065

http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=202011

>> No.2867069

>>2867022
It's not relibale how? Publisher is Ok, Author is ok, OIt's written after ww2, you can't just say something isn't reliable, you need to back it up.

>>2867033
Then, please, explain. The burden of proof now lies with you. Tell me why this is not the case.

>> No.2867075

Go back to /a/ if you want to discuss your shitty animes.

>> No.2867093

>>2867075
This thread has long since changed it's course. It 's now about the differences between the japanese and their relations with the koreans and the chinese.

>> No.2867103

>>2867093
That's as unrelated to the board as anime is.

>> No.2867114

Well this figures, this thread finally gets somewhere interesting and it dies. This is the problem with the internet, if people can't google somethng to support their argument they simply leave! I'm willing to admit I'm wrong! at the very least, I'd have ideas for research papers and whatnot, hopefully, my contenders will return with rebuttals.

>> No.2867119

>>2866405
Oh wow... there's some seeeeerious xenophobia in this anime.

>> No.2867124

>>2867075
>shitty animes

hurr, because touhou and VNs are so much better.

>> No.2867125

>>2867069
>Then, please, explain. The burden of proof now lies with you. Tell me why this is not the case.
A man heard a new sound made by another man, the man learn how to make that sound.
Simple like that.

And the japanese language doesn't have any "secret sounds" that koreans can't make.

So, it's very hard to believe in that.

>> No.2867142

>>2867124
More entertaining, at least.

>> No.2867147

>>2867125
一円五十銭
FIFA

>> No.2867159

>>2867147
What?

>> No.2867166

>>2867125
So you have passed the 日本語能力試験一級?You know the ins and outs of the Japanese from not only today, but from the 1930's as well? I must say, I am impressed. Besides, I never said secret, and if i did i meant subtle.

And your explaination of the reproduction of sounds leaves much to be desired. "oh a man heard a sound and then he just did it himself." Wha is this? Are you even trying? Allow me to once again bring up bantu. You jsut encountered a Somali Bantu refugee, he says something in bantu to you. Most likely you will not get it right when you try to say it, because they use clicks and other sounds you have never tried to use in life...ever. Chances are, you won't be able to for years upon years. The same was truefor the Korean immigrants. Before they could perfect their japanese, they were deported or killed outright.

>> No.2867183 [DELETED] 

>>2867159
。A simple method to distinguish a Korean.
let say these words to them.

>> No.2867184

>>2866660
This video leaves out that Japanese sometimes have their eyes opened up more. Maybe it's not related, though, because that doesn't make them more white. Eh, I'm just niggling.

>> No.2867187

>>2867159
A simple method to distinguish a Korean.

>> No.2867189

>>2867183
AH! precisely!

>> No.2867191

>>2867166
>And your explaination of the reproduction of sounds leaves much to be desired. "oh a man heard a sound and then he just did it himself." Wha is this? Are you even trying?
What's wrong?

>Before they could perfect their japanese, they were deported or killed outright.
Again,
You said sounds, not pronunciations.

>> No.2867198

>>2867191
You can't just say something and expect it to be taken at face value, you need to back it up with research or science or something. That's what's wrong.

and again you fail to say what the difference is.

>> No.2867208

>>2867187
Are you retarded?

>> No.2867221

>>2867208
What is the basis for this accusation? The fact that you've been given hard evidence and now instead of allowing that their may be truth to what we say? Instead of flinging insults do some research and prove people wrong, dont throw a temper-tantrum.

>> No.2867236

>>2867221
What the, proof-read.

>> No.2867241

>>2867221
What is the basis for this accusation? The fact that you've been given hard evidence and now realize that there may be some truth to what we say? Instead of flinging insults do some research and prove people wrong, dont throw a temper-tantrum.

>> No.2867252

>>2867221
Let's read here!

>>2867125
>And the japanese language doesn't have any "secret sounds" that koreans can't make.

>>2867147
>一円五十銭
>FIFA

>>2867187
>A simple method to distinguish a Korean.

>> No.2867257

>>2867198
>You can't just say something and expect it to be taken at face value, you need to back it up with research or science or something.
How about no?
You think that humans born knowing how to make sounds?
No, they learn by themselfs.

But pronunciation is other thing.

>> No.2867278

>>2867257
What Country are you from, and how old are you?

>> No.2867293
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>> No.2867295

>>2867278
Why don't you say first?

>> No.2867309

>>2867295
This is all I needed to hear.

>> No.2867345

>>2867309
Ok, here is a tip:
Which country was the last country to ban slavery?

>> No.2867394

does the kkk have a japanese branch?

>> No.2867431

>>2867309
>This is all I needed to hear.
Wait...
What do you mean?

>> No.2867457

>>2867345
Mauritania?

>> No.2867464

Who the fuck cares if they look Japanese or not. How can a subject like this really matter to anyone? Holy flogging shit, watch animu if you want but don't make it into some kinda political racist debate where you argue over who's the best, Glorious NIPPON! Or Proud White Power!

I'm White, I don't give a shit about what race animecharacters get depicted as.

>> No.2867480

Darker than Black had noticeably different blacks, whites, chinks and japs.

>> No.2867486

>>2867457
No, it's a country that has bad reputation with MMOs.

>> No.2867489

>>2867345
Japan is not connected with the slave.
However, Korean insist that the Korean was a slave.

Japan made a railroad for a slave.
Japan carried out compulsory education and made a university.
Japan doubled the population of the slave.
Japan gave a slave the right to vote.

>>2867394
Is Japanese KKK gentle?

>> No.2867490

>>2867486
Mauritania?

>> No.2867500

>>2867489
Get out of 4chan, please.

>> No.2867541

>>2867500
You had better not beat a key if there is not ability to argue against you.

>> No.2867559

>>2867541
Speak english, please.

>> No.2867579

>>2867500
>>2867559
Hey!"Boku-tyan".

>> No.2867590

>>2867541
>You had better not beat a key if there is not ability to argue against you.
>not ability to argue

>> No.2867593

>>2867490
>>2867457
Begins with "B".

>> No.2867607

>>2866569 the Japanese will invariably draw other Asians much the way the West sees them
But the opposite of this is also true. Other Asians tend to caricaturize the Japanese the way the west does. Big buck teeth, slit eyes, etc.

>> No.2867613

>>2867590
It is not necessary for you to escape.
You had better not write in it if you escape.

>>2867489
>Is Japanese KKK gentle?

Yes?No?

>> No.2867631

>>2867593
Bauritania isn't a country.

>> No.2867632

How much discrimination is left in the country of you?
Is the discrimination smaller than Japan?
Japan is not heaven.
Japanese is not God.

>> No.2867652

>>2867632
BRO-TIP

Just because Coreans, Chinese, and Japs can't SPEAK english coherently, doesn't mean that they aren't able to TYPE proper English.

Many slanty eyed chinkies could perform in English courses better than most native English speakers.

Your trolling = Weak

>> No.2867658

>>2867652
No. You're wrong.

>> No.2867670

>>2867652
The Japanese is not God.

The Japanese is gentle KKK. wwwwwwww

>> No.2867696

>>2867652
It's a rather mixed bag. I used to tutor Chinese students exclusively during college. The majority had an issue with the proper usage of tenses. Other than that, it was more or less legible. Most of the time less .

>> No.2867704 [DELETED] 

>>2867652
BRO-TIP

When you evade a question, there are many cases of the inconvenient question.
Does not your country have discrimination?

I think that the problem of your country is bigger.

>> No.2867709

Hey, faggot OP.

The anime characters don't look "white".

They look like CARTOON CHARACTERS.

You think they look white because the racial default in your cracker brain is white. You think everybody is white unless they have some kind of a clear identifier of non-whiteness, like huge melon-eating lips or squinty slit eyes and buckteeth.

The same way, the racial default for Japanese is Japanese. They assume everybody in those cartoons is Japanese unless specifically identified as not such.

Originally, whites were depicted as having huge red noses, until the American conquerors got all butthurt over it.

>> No.2867713

>>2867652
>>2867652
BRO-TIP

When you evade a question, there are many cases of the inconvenient question.

Does not your country have discrimination?

I think that the problem of your country is bigger

>> No.2867724

>>2867696
I said TYPE, not hand written you fucking moron. Your lack of reading comprehension causes me to severely doubt your tutoring history.

>>2867704
Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? You're on a fucking image board pretending to be some god damn oriental who doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of the English language you miserable tumor. Nobody gives a god damn shit if the Japs discriminate against others.

>> No.2867794

>>2867724
BRO-TIP

When you evade a question, there are many cases of the inconvenient question.

Does not your country have discrimination?
Is the discrimination smaller than Japan?

If you do not answer, the answer judges that the problem is bigger than Japan.

>Nobody gives a god damn shit if the Japs discriminate against others.

You give a god damn shit.

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