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[Anonymous No.]

Hi /jp/

I'm new to the VN scene, what are a few good ones to start with?

I've read Planetarian and Narcissu so far.

[Anonymous No.]

Otoko Dogeza Jigoku

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Red Shift, True Remembrance

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>>2859107
What? It's a good game.

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Umineko

>>2859095
>LOLOL IM AN ELITE /jp/ ANON XD

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>2859095

Ah, this is a good one.

.>>2859107

Oh? You never played it?

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>>2859107
>Umineko
>good

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Ever17

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>>2859130
>reaction face
>poor attempt at trolling

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>>2859141
>Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA

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>>2859095

Look what you've started, faggot. I hope you're happy.

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>>2859146
>a guy wearing glasses

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>>2859159
>Suigin !YUsuiginy.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2859161
I never gave you permission to post my name or picture.
Please delete that post

[Anonymous No.]

if you liked narcissu go read ever17 those are both overrated pieces of shit

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>>2859169

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

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Saya no Uta is a good short one

Avoid Katawa Shoujo like the plague.

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>>2859095
Man, it's been too long since I've read that. Or even heard of it for that matter.

Tsukihime is a pleasant "my first vn". Action, horror centric with a neat perspective and storytelling. A little bit of rambling and lower production value, but solid.

Yume Miru Kusuri is a little more sex heavy, but it also has a nice flow to it. Two of the routes are endearing in their own way, it has a little bit of a following on /v/ I still think.

Both have their own flaws and nuances, but I'd like to think that they are good reads for newcomers.

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>>2859092
I'll go ahead and recommend Utawarerumono and Chaos;Head since no one else is going to.

Also, http://vndb.org/v/all?q=;o=d;s=pop

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>>2859256
Actually, disregard my second recommendation. You might as well wait for Noah now.

[Anonymous No.]

OP Here
Thanks for the recommendations guys, I wasn't expecting much from a 4chan thread, but I've got a good list now!

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SICP VN

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Fate/Stay Night. All these other fags would've recommended it by now if they weren't sick of hearing about how awesome it is.

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>>2859438
That is so very true.
The reason that people stopped recommend it to people was basically the fact that EVERYONE recommended it (several times in every thread) all the time and I guess that people got sick of it.

But I must say that Fate/Stay Night is a good VN to start with since it was very story driven and somewhat fast-paced with lots of character development at a pleasant speed with both action and romance combined with a deep story with lots of poetical meaning.
With that said I will also add that Tsukihime is also a great start for someone new to the VN scene and that lots of good things that can be said about Fate/Stay Night can also be said about Tsukihime and vice-versa (It is the same company that made them so I guess that is only natural), My own personal opinion that it is not as "noob" friendly though.

Yume Miru Kusuri is a really fantastic VN with a really touching story which is also quite fast-paced and is a VN which I to be honest almost can't think of how a person who ever even have seen a VN could hate and truly is something that I would recommend to everyone.
As long as you stay out of the "porno" route of Yume Miru Kusuri....(Yume Miru Kusuri really would have been better without Mitsuki's route, and I know that I might be a bit biased.) The other routes of Yume Miru Kusuri really have deep touching stories in my opinion.

Regarding Saya no Uta:
While it was a really good story in my opinion, with a quite short and fast paced story which really will leave you wondering how the story will progress during the whole thing and how it covers some quite ugly sides of "nature" and "Life" in general (It does somewhat follow Cuthulhu Mythos, so that is a given thing really) in a way that somewhat brings up the relativity of right and wrong in an interesting way.
I must say that I do not find Saya no Uta "noob" friendly at all, so I would not recommend it.

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>>2859592
And
Regarding Ever17:
I must say that I think that Ever17 is quite overrated because of a quite dumb reason.
Ever17 is quite damn slow and long even though it can get quite interesting from time to time and I must say that really did like it though (Yes... I really did, I guess it was because of some kind of atmosphere it gave off or something) even though most of it by far is generic shit and it didn't really get interesting for real until it started to get closer to the very end of the whole VN which in my opinion does not enough to say that the whole VN was good.

Then I guess that Sumuga is quite "noob" friendly as well considering how it is a VN of high quality who starts of with A LOT of things happening right away and with a story with touching character development.
I am not really sure If really can say last the whole time since I guess one could say it turns out quite slow at times, still a really good VN.
However since only 1.5 routes is translated I guess it really is not "noob" friendly at all.

And even though I know that said VNs is quite mainstream I do find them (even if mainstream) to be "noob" friendly (with the exception of Saya no Uta).

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>>2859329

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>>2859592
>I must say that I do not find Saya no Uta "noob" friendly at all, so I would not recommend it.
Why not? I've never understood this. The only thing that would turn off "noobs" is length, with a lot of VNs you need quite a lot of patience as they're pretty long, but Saya obviously doesn't have this problem.

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>>2859592
>>2859595

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>>2859618

Saya no Uta is not newbie friendly because of several reasons.

1) sex, lots of it, fairly disturbing sex too, often less than consensual, for someone who isn't used to that aspect of VNs SnU is not good at getting them comfortable with it.

2) Villian protagonist, combined with lack of any real choices or interaction, mean the main player is forced to do things he will not want to do, a type moon VN where you play the hero and make choices every day is more suitable.

3) Horror aspect, which means a focus more on plot than characters. Characters are usually the best part of a VN, where you get to fall in love with them, as opposed to SnU, where you get to see everyone's life completely wrecked.

does that make sense?

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>>2859592
>>2859595

pay attention to this man.

Also, if you liked Planetarian and Narcissu, try True Remembrance, its very similar in length and the fact that there is only one route, and is very well written, definitely check it out.
http://trueremembrance.insani.org/

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>>2859652
No. A story is a story. People will like it regardless of how new they are to VNs or dislike it regardless of how much they're used to VNs. Being new to VNs doesn't make you a child.

SnU is actually the only VN I've recommended to several friends, and the one that read it liked it.

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>>2859595
Interesting. I had a completely different impression of Ever17. In fact, that description is almost exactly how I felt about Tsukihime.

I'm fairly new to VN's myself, and after completing Planetarian and Saya no Uta, I eagerly decided to give Tsukihime a shot, because it's seems to be held in such high regard here. It ended up being the worst VN I've played, even now. I found myself forcing myself to continue, and only because I was determined to finish at least one playthrough.

To be quite frank, the overall story was not very well crafted together. Personally, I found the story and the characters to be pretty generic and uninteresting. The game felt unbearably long, largely because the first half of the story was so boring.

Ever17, on the other hand, had a compelling story. I could hardly tear myself away from it, because I wanted to know what was going to happen next and just what had gone wrong. And of course, that's just regarding the story. I think there is little dispute that Ever17 had much better artwork and music.

You can write me off as a troll, but that's honestly how I felt about those games.

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>>2859618
First of all I am going to point out that I am the Anon that wrote
>>2859592
>>2859595

Even though what you say may largest factor regarding if a VN would be noob friendly or not.

I based my oppinion pretty much on what
>>2859652
Said in point 1 and 2 and somewhat 3 where I absolutely does not mean that a VN focused more on plot than characters is in any way worse or less "noob" friendly, but I somehow think that a VN that is focused on a story such as Saya no Uta
>where you get to see everyone's life completely wrecked.
could be considered as not "noob" friendly.

Personally I really liked Saya no Uta though, but I don't think that it is suited for someone new to the VN scene.

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>>2859779
Like I said, they're not children. If they don't like that sort of thing, they wouldn't like that sort of thing regardless of how many VNs they've read.

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>>2859092
>the VN scene
This terrifies me.

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>>2859793
hmmm, you may be right but I don't think you are.

I know a person who love horror and gore movies and such, however that very person can't stand said things in the form of a VN.
Even though I myself find it quite ridiculous, I think that people could have a "harder" time to adapt to things if they encounter them through a media which they are not used to, even if said things are things that usually don't bother them.

I could be completely wrong though.

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>>2859838
I agree with >>2859793

I guess it depends on the person. I'm quite the opposite. I'm really not a huge fan of gory movies, but I rather enjoy horror in a written/illustrated form. SnU was my second VN and I loved it. It's short, with only a few choices and three possible endings. I think it's perfect for a novice to visual novels.

I will admit, that when I first started Saya no Uta, I had no idea what it was about. So, when the first background image popped up, I was shocked to the point that I almost closed the game. However, that was simply because I wasn't mentally prepared for it. Once, that initial shock wore off, I thoroughly enjoyed the game.

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>>2859757
I must say that I do find that interesting.

I somewhat believe that the whole foundation of Tsukihime is somewhat based on some kind of mystic feel which it tries to build that both the plot and the main aspects of the characters rest on.
However that mystic feel is something I think one could call quite vague even if it is something that I believe "works" with the majority of people.

If that mystic feel wouldn't work on a person I am quite sure that person would find both the plot and the characters really bland since this so called mystic feel is what gives it all strength.

This is just my theory though.
Does it sound reasonable or do I just have weird thoughts?

I think that is pretty clear which one has better Art/Music though, but I guess that one should give Type Moon some cred considering that they made it while they were still a doujin group (it does not change the quality of the VN though).

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This is the third recommendation thread these past 8-10 hours.

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No.2859652 here

See, what I was trying to get at is not that Saya no Uta isn't newbie friendly not because it was bad, but because it is very different from what a typical VN is, and might give people the wrong impression, they play SnU and expect all other VNs to be like that.

I have encountered this before, an anon who plays Saya no Uta first, and that is the only VN they like, calling everything else "generic anime shi". Except that is exactly what VNs are supposed to be, they have the flavour of an anime, or what I would call "anime-ish".

The same thing happened with anons who came in from /a/ and /v/, who played Katawa Shoujo as their first, and KS, [whatever merit it may have, is definitely american (you play RISK for crissakes)] then they complained that other VN's were "too japanese".


This is why I always suggest Tsukihime, Planetarian, and True Remembrance as the "firsties", because they have rather unique settings and characters that aren't exactly typical, but also retain that kind of cutesy "anime-ish" quality that pervades VNs.

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>>2859888
well, it IS summer. we were all newbros once anyway.

also, in addition to the Vndb linked to by an anon, tvtropes isn't a bad place to check out VNs
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VisualNovel

Continuing from No.2859952, there are three VNs that I consider "must sees", that I consider to be the most accomplished works of the genre, Clannad, Fate/Stay Night, and Ever17, which I only suggest playing only after you have gotten several other VNs under your belt. Clannad and FSN mostly because of length (a newbie might not be willing to put down 60 hours into a story right off the bat) and Ever17 because of the tricks the game plays on the player, with multiple main characters and multiverse stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a VN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2860238

Visual Novel. They range from chose your own adventure to linear with game play elements thrown in to lol it's porn with voice acting.