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Next week, MangaGamer will be at anime expo, and it is likely that they will be announcing future titles. I expect to see official announcements of Edelweiss Eiden Fantasia and Kira Kira Curtain Call.

What would you like to see them get their hands on? Personally I would love to see them get a partnership with Age and announce Muv-Luv/Muv-Luv Alt.

>> No.2857792

>a partnership with Age and announce Muv-Luv/Muv-Luv Alt
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>> No.2857802

I don't know, but they should get some editors to clean things up during the translation phase.

It's not really that bad, but for $35-50 I have high standards.

>> No.2857804

Leaf would be nice, I want December When There Is No Angel

>> No.2857805

Is KKCC as good as Kira Kira?

Also, how is Edelweiss? Worth a DL?

>> No.2857813

Hmm. Alright, if we're allowed to have unrealistic dreams, then I'm hoping for ToHeart2 X-Rated. Or maybe Hello, World.

>> No.2857815
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>>2857805
>Also, how is Edelweiss? Worth a DL?

Expect an awful translation (pic related), but it is worth a download. There is a significant difference in quality though depending on which route you do,

>> No.2857822

>>2857804
>December When There Is No Angel

YES

I NEED THIS TRANSLATED

PLEASE MANGAGAMER

>> No.2857830

I expect more Da Capo

>> No.2857837

Anything from Nitro+, but maybe they're too horror-esque.

>> No.2857843
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>>2857805
It's fun, but not as good as Kira Kira. Also, translation quality isn't very good(see picture), or at least wasn't when I got it.
If they fixed it up, then it'd be a whole different matter.

>> No.2857846

>>2857837
Nitro+ isn't all horror, they have eroge too.

>> No.2857856

>>2857837
Actually, didn't Nitro+ sign partnership with JapanFiles for the game OSTs? I think them making a deal with MangaGamer isn't too farfetched.

>> No.2857868

I wonder if it is good or bad that it is now harder for them to get access to games like "Suck My Dick or Die"?

>> No.2857890

>>2857856
>Actually, didn't Nitro+ sign partnership with JapanFiles for the game OSTs? I think them making a deal with MangaGamer isn't too farfetched.

I would think that seeing them offer OSTs with English descriptions of their games means they have at least some interest in getting involved in the English market. What would be nice is if they were aware of the unofficial English translations of Saya no Uta and Chaos;Head, giving them a reason to think their is a market for English visual novels.

>> No.2857894

>>2857815
Hate to say but, I'm having trouble finding a torrent, any assistance?

>> No.2857917

>>2857894
>>>/rs/Edelweiss Not sure if any are still alive, though.

>> No.2857961

Pygmalion
never gonna happen though ;_;

>> No.2857979

Last year they had Da Capo cosplayers.

I wonder what they'll have this year. Probably the same thing.

>> No.2857984

>>2857917
Oh wow, I'm dumb.
Thank you.

>> No.2858007

If we can dream, I would also love to see some partnership with Age. I expect to see more Circus titles, most likely more Da Capo stuff seeing that they have a partnership with Circus.

Although not all of the Nexton partner companies have taken their rape games off(Shera, My Witch/Tasty Shafts) , I don't expect to see much from there considering the current situation. I would say there is roughly a 50/50 shot of some rape game company partnering with MangaGamer and leading to the release of such games.

Right now, I would say that the best odds of any single new company joining up with MangaGamer would be Nitro+, for reasons given in this thread. I however do expect at least one new partnership to be announced at the expo, regardless of which company it is.

Somewhat related, too bad now that Minori actually realizes that English speakers give a shit about them, they are now scared to death of foreigners.

>> No.2858015 [DELETED] 

op here lol sup nigga

>> No.2858018

>>2857890
There's not a very big English market though. But then again, KS got 50,000 downloads or so I think, so maybe VNs are starting to get more popular.

>> No.2858025

>>2858018
Then again, KS was free. But if even 1/5 of people who downloaded that would buy something from MangaGamer, it'd be some really good numbers.

>> No.2858032

any torrent for Cosplay Fetish academy?

>> No.2858034

>>2858007
>Somewhat related, too bad now that Minori actually realizes that English speakers give a shit about them, they are now scared to death of foreigners.

I honestly expect to see them try to release some stuff in English after things settle down. They seemed genuinely shocked that they received a ton of attention when blocking foreign IPs.

>> No.2858036

>>2858018
It's a free demo, much associated with 4chan.
Many posters here on various boards have given it a whirl, regardless of previous experiences.
Not the same thing.

>> No.2858038

>>2858018
Half of those people would do anything if 4chan told them to.

>> No.2858046

>>2858025


I purchased KIRAKIRA as I would love to see MangaGamer release more good stuff.

>> No.2858051

>>2858025
10,000 sales for $35-50 each would earn an incredible amount of money too, although I imagine some money would go to the developers. Not sure what their sales are really like though.

>> No.2858066

There have been tons of releases these past 8 months or so, and a lot more coming.

I'm surprised though. Three years ago nobody gave a shit about VNs.

>> No.2858067

>>2858036
>It's a free demo, much associated with 4chan.
>Many posters here on various boards have given it a whirl, regardless of previous experiences.
>Not the same thing.

True, but at the same time that also means a significant number of people were exposed to a good visual novel, and are far more likely to try other visual novels in the future.

>> No.2858070

Expect for Hello, World, pretty much everything really good from Nitroplus is getting or has gotten a translation.
Personally I want to seem some eroge from Light translated, I'm sure Gunjou no Sora wo Koete could be popular in the west.

>> No.2858075
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>>2858067
>Katawa Shoujo
>good visual novel

>> No.2858076

I want to support MangaGamer, but I'm a NEET, so I'm stuck on pirating.

>> No.2858079

>>2858067
Disregarding 'good', it's just a polished demo with simple writing.
The jump to supporting VNs by buying is too fucking huge. Have them read some good, COMPLETE ones so they appreciate the medium properly, and THEN expect support.

>> No.2858088

>>2858067
>>2858075
Let's not start this shit again.

KS is neither good nor bad, it's just average. Middle-tier VN.

>> No.2858092

>>2858066
>There have been tons of releases these past 8 months or so, and a lot more coming.

By the end of the year, we should have
Cross Channel
Family Project
Some porn not plot titles from J-List
What ever MangaGamer decides to release
Symphonic Rain
Sumaga
Umineko 5
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
G-Senjou no Maou
At least a couple surprised releases
Sengoku Rance
Possibly Remember 11

>> No.2858096

well whoever is doing hte LB translation is sure taking their time.

>> No.2858099

>>2858088
still more like a demo

>> No.2858100

I want a partnership with KEY

>> No.2858101

for elise
Flutter of Birds
Pygmalion
Yosuga no Sora
sayonara wo oshiete
[other titles /jp/ keeps talking about but for which nobody really gives a fuck]

>> No.2858102

>>2858079
>The jump to supporting VNs by buying is too fucking huge. Have them read some good, COMPLETE ones so they appreciate the medium properly, and THEN expect support.

True, but at the same time KS likely introduced some buy fags to Visual Novels, which is very important.

>> No.2858103

>>2858088
It's an incomplete demo.
Judging it is like determining the worth of a book from the first chapter only.

>> No.2858106

>>2858092
>Cross Channel
>Sumaga
>Umineko 5
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
>G-Senjou no Maou
>Sengoku Rance

Looking forward to these. Don't really know much about the others, though.

>> No.2858107

>>2858092
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
I wish that this would happen, but with the speed translator is going, I just can't believe it to be true.

>> No.2858110

>>2858096
How would you know? They don't give an update percentage very much, and the whole thing is longer than F/SN and Clannad.

Someone who frequents their IRC said they're at 30% at the moment.

>> No.2858113

Person who said KS was good here

I did not mean to start an argument on how good it is, and this shouldn't derail the thread, what I met by good is something decent enough to make it likely that people playing that may check out other VNs.

>> No.2858118

>>2858103
>It's an incomplete demo.

With the huge ass fanbase it has already I keep forgetting that.

>> No.2858121

>>2858110
30% is correct, expect at least one route by Christmas

>> No.2858123

>>2858102
Well, using an incomplete demo written by inexperienced people directly in english while using pseudo-japanese culture is not the best bait to attarct people with money.

On the other hand, few localized VNs are a good lure for people since they are mostly porn centered.

>> No.2858124

I actually look forward to the day when the only thing discussed on /jp/ is translated VNs because so many come out at once.

>> No.2858129

>Cross Channel
ack
>Family Project
after DNF maybe
>Symphonic Rain
don't think so aniki
>Sumaga
anonymous is doing this, expect nothing
>Umineko 5
give me higurashi instead
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
hahaha no
>G-Senjou no Maou
hopefully this year
>At least a couple surprised releases
like suprise suprise ?_?
>Sengoku Rance
not a vn
>Possibly Remember 11
yay everything is possible ....

I wish we would get Noah this year ;_;

>> No.2858130

KS gathered a fanbase on the internet larger than any other VN has done for English. When the full thing is released, even if only 1 in 5 people in the fanbase gives other visual novels a try, that will still be a huge jump in size for the English Visual Novel community.

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>>2857822
Program some new tools for this shit, please. To date, the engine made 3 ASM hackers cry.

>> No.2858132

>>2858124
Most of the /jp/ discussions are Touhou and whatever has been translated already.
Incoming surge will just limit repetitive threads a bit.

>> No.2858136

Will KS still be popular until the full thing is out, or will it just slowly die out?

>> No.2858145

Apparently Cross Channel is being done by a guy who has only been learning Japanese for a year or something. Not sure how well that will go.

>> No.2858147

>>2858130
Not really, no.
Actual number of fans is hard to measure, for one thing. Not as huge as the trolling may make it seem.
And there are already a few certain releases with ridiculous appeal outside of Japan too.

>> No.2858152

>>2858145
His translation of MOON which is not the easiest one to work with was pretty good and readable for sure.
Let's have faith, guy seems to have a knack for it.

>> No.2858153

>>2858123
>Well, using an incomplete demo written by inexperienced people directly in english while using pseudo-japanese culture is not the best bait to attarct people with money.

>On the other hand, few localized VNs are a good lure for people since they are mostly porn centered.

I actually think a demo without porn then a full release with porn is great bait to get people into porn games. Many of the buyfags normally avoid porn games like the plague, but since they have been introduced to KS, they will play it even with the porn when the full game comes out.

>> No.2858166

>>2858153
That's very naive and wishful thinking, since the fact remains that few non-porn centered game are available for buying and supporting the whole movement. A good free VN that is not porn centered does not change the problem.
But if it actually happens this way, it's cool I guess.

>> No.2858167

>Many of the buyfags normally avoid porn games like the plague
You sure about this?

>> No.2858176

>>2858145
Three actually, though I think he seems like somewhat of a genius (at least in regards with learning languages). The MOON. translation was pretty decent, so at least it's manageable I think.

>> No.2858183
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2858183

Needs more fang moe

>> No.2858186

problem is that most people just assume that all VNs = hentai

>> No.2858190

>>2858176
How is learning a language to a decent level in 3 years genius-like? That's pretty average. Khatzumoto did it in half that time.

>> No.2858193

>>2858183
So, who's that? I'm fapping to her now.

>> No.2858200

>>2858190
Not this shit again. Let's just say he came from nowhere and faced the challenge

>> No.2858203

>>2858186
Which is the exact reason KS was so important.

>> No.2858205

>>2858190
Yeah, but Khatz is different than your average weeaboo.

>> No.2858220

>>2858190

>Some guy on the internet said he learnt Japanese in 18 months and I'm stupid enough to believe it.

>> No.2858221

>>2858203
Not really, no.
You need to show them that there is good stuff available in the MARKET.
A free project by people unrelated with the industry doesn't do the job.
A better example is Phoenix Wright.
While it's more of an adventure game similar to west ones, it was a tremendous success and thus there have been quite a few text-heavy games or even VN like for the DS.

>> No.2858223

>>2858136
It already has died down a lot. For many people KS's appeal was simply novelty. "Oh hey some guys from 4chan created one of those crazy Japanese porn games." I'm not even sure how large of a resurgence in popularity the full release will create.

>> No.2858224

>>2858203
Couldn't they have hyped up a better game instead? Saya no Uta, YMK, and F/SN got a decent amount of threads in /a/ and a little in /v/ so they have no excuse for this bullshit.

>> No.2858230

They should pick up RapeLay It would surely be a success

>> No.2858239

>>2858224
>Couldn't they have hyped up a better game instead? Saya no Uta, YMK, and F/SN got a decent amount of threads in /a/ and a little in /v/ so they have no excuse for this bullshit.

The big thing though is KS has gained popularity outside of 4chan.

>> No.2858247

>>2858092
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia

you live in a delusional world

>> No.2858251

>>2858239
Is that so, KSDev? But there is no web outside of 4chan.

>> No.2858256

>>2858239
anything 4chan talks about gains popularity outside of 4chan

>> No.2858263

>>2858129
doesn't higurashi already have a translation

>> No.2858271

>>2858247
>you live in a delusional world

The Kagetsu Tohya translator is now putting a serious effort into translating it.

>> No.2858291

>>2858256
>anything 4chan talks about gains popularity outside of 4chan

Stuff that 4chan talks about and likes doesn't always enjoy numerical success. For example Ippo and One Outs were quite popular on /a/, but in terms of numbers very few people have seen it elsewhere when compared to the most watched stuff of the season. Visual Novels have always been similar, sure they are regularly discussed, but in terms of numbers they are small. The KS demo seems to have broken out of the typical small numbers of downloads other VNs get.

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>>2858205
niggers using computer skills to learn fluent japanese

>> No.2858305

>>2858263
Only the Onikakushi.

>> No.2858311

>>2858291
Ippo got licensed though, and season 2 will probably follow. I see your point though.

>> No.2858314

>>2858291
>For example Ippo and One Outs were quite popular on /a/

no they weren't. the amount of people who liked it was comparable to the amount of people who talked about it else where. just because /a/ has more than one thread about it doesn't mean it's popular.

>> No.2858315

And One Outs was shit due to Baseball terminology

>> No.2858321

>>2858291
Hajime no Ippo and one Outs were NEVER,NEVER heavily discussed in /a/.
Never. And it's a shame. Lucky Star? Gurren Laggan? Geass?
Now you are talking.
KS due to being a '4chan' project got some infamy, but that's it. It's not praised as something that gives a better view of the medium than other things already available. And it doesn't solve or really help the underlying problem, even if it was recognized as such.

>> No.2858340

>>2858321
No, KS got attention because its the first serious english VN

>> No.2858349

>>2858340
no it was definitely 4chan

>> No.2858350

>>2858340
Why would it matter that it's English? And besides, there are probably better OELVNs that just never got any attention.

>> No.2858367

I just want a translation fix patch for Edelweiss.

>> No.2858382

>>2858367
Still don't understand why we never got this. anonymous betrayed us.

>> No.2858427

>>2858350

Do you know any that are better than KS?

>> No.2858466

>>2858315
Did you even watched the show? I barely know anything about baseball and I followed and enjoyed it fairly well.

>> No.2858474

>>2858466
no one watched the show.

>> No.2858508

>>2858314
>no they weren't. the amount of people who liked it was comparable to the amount of people who talked about it else where. just because /a/ has more than one thread about it doesn't mean it's popular.

I have seen more of those threads then any non Type Moon visual novel, even when one looked at /a/ before /jp/.


>Ippo got licensed though, and season 2 will probably follow. I see your point though.
Although Ippo was licensed, it was a disaster in terms of sales in North America

>> No.2858518

Sad to hear that but Ippo was an older show to begin with

>> No.2858520

>>2858508
non Type Moon visual novel aren't popular. i still don't see your point.

>> No.2858533

>>2858508
/a/ has 10 times the traffic.
Unlike here where we usually get concentrated threads, the 3 people who watch a shit show will prolly make 3 threads.

>> No.2858539

>>2858520
>non Type Moon visual novel aren't popular. i still don't see your point.

KS has far more popularity then other VNs, and will probably have similar success when the full version is released. That means that a lot of people who haven't played Visual Novels were/will be suddenly introduced to the genre with KS, and hopefully that includes a good number of buyfags who have mostly avoided the medium.

>> No.2858554

>>2858520
>non Type Moon visual novel aren't popular. i still don't see your point.

I think he is trying to say KS is popular in terms of pure numbers and has a wide reaching audience, YMK, Umineko, Kana little sister, and to some degree even the F/SN and Tsukihime visual novels (not looking at the anime popularity) do not.

>> No.2858564

>>2858520
>>2858539
Chaos;Head is popular among the weeaboo teenage honto ni kawaii desu ka crowd because of Takumi's emo shit and the anime. Sadly, that makes it one of the more popular ones.

Look up Chaos;Head on Deviantart. I dare you.

>> No.2858572

>>2858564
I doubt many underage would know Chaos;HEad, the game obviously.

>devianart
facepalm

>> No.2858575

>>2858539
>KS has far more popularity then other VNs, and will probably have similar success when the full version is released. That means that a lot of people who haven't played Visual Novels were/will be suddenly introduced to the genre with KS, and hopefully that includes a good number of buyfags who have mostly avoided the medium.

Even the most popular visual novels (the Type Moon titles) only have popularity because people recognize the anime. If Katawa Shoujo becomes popular, it would be the first visual novel to get popularity in the English community as simply a visual novel.

>> No.2858589

>>2858427
Ones that are called "adventure games."

>> No.2858593

>>2858575
Have you forgotten True Love

>> No.2858596

Where is my Key games?
Also, I dont want pay for such a bad translation.
It is OK for free fansub but not for commercial release.

>> No.2858597

Back on topic, I am quite interested in seeing what MangaGamer will announce. They have on averaged released something every couple months, including 4 plot with porn titles in the last year (Edelweiss, Kira Kira, Da Capo, Suika). They have their own problems, but I would rather see something announced at the Expo for MangaGamer instead of J-List. If J-List announces something, odds favor it being another pure porn game, and regardless we won't see it for at least 18 months, but with MangaGamer anything they announce are likely to be released by this time next year, and may be released in as little as a few months.

>> No.2858599

>>2858593
Dating sim.

>> No.2858603

>>2858575
Strictly speaking, Phoenix Wright has done a better job.
And I doubt KS is more appreciated than most of your examples.
More KNOWN, but acknowledging existence is not the same.

>> No.2858607

>>2858575
YMK has (or had) regular threads on /v/ and /a/. I'm not sure how popular it is outside of 4chan though.

>> No.2858609

>>2858607
YMK has very little popularity in the general anime community.

>> No.2858610

>>2858597

Yeah I'm interested in seeing more titles from them too. Hopefully as they release more they will get better at quality control, but maybe that is just wishful thinking.

>> No.2858617

>>2858610
KIRAKIRA has problems, but nothing like Edelweiss did. As long as it flows, the translation is accurate, and one doesn't need to figure out what is being said, they can continue to release them at this quality if it lets them do more as far as I am concerned.

>> No.2858622

The reason KS is popular is because it owes some of it's origins to 4chan and is considered a 4chan work. If it wasn't because of 4chan there would be little attention to it.

>> No.2858631

I can't about KS as a real VN. It is GAIJIN VN.

>> No.2858647

>>2858631
*I can't think

>> No.2858660

>>2858617
It's night and day, yeah. There were only a couple of head scratchers, like how they keep refering to Kirari's hair as black, and at one point they talk about income and how 150k yen a month is scraping by. A few typos too, I guess. But I don't consider it bad. Edelweiss was...readable, but I wouldn't call it anything close to good.

>> No.2858684

>>2858631

Shit, visual novel is just the medium. A very Japanese medium I guess, but there's no reason people can't write good VNs in other languages. Weren't some people doing a Chinese language VN?

>> No.2858695

>I just want a translation fix patch for Edelweiss.

I'm pretty sure they re-did it a bit so there is a version (not pirated) that has better grammar. Still not perfect from what I hear, but if you pay up you can at least get a small fix.

I'd like them to get their hands on some nice yuri story though, like sonohanabira (even though that is being fan translated slowly). I'm not sure what other yuri VNs is out there, which kind of show how rare they seem to be.

>> No.2858744 [DELETED] 

>>2858684
Everyone who is serious about making a game like that outside of Japan who isn't a weeaboo is writting IF and not VNs.

>> No.2858747

>>2858684
Everyone who is serious about making a game like that outside of Japan who isn't a weeaboo is writing IF and not VNs.

>> No.2858756

>>2858747
>Everyone who is serious about making a game like that
A game like what? VN and IF are completely different genres.

>> No.2858766

>>2858756
What a VN is, a story with pictures and music. A lot of modern IF have pictures and music.

>> No.2858790

Personally I think the Visual Novel medium could be use for a lot more than Japanese eroge.

>> No.2858892

>>2858684
The Asian moves are quite different from the European's one.
The difference between VNs will be the same.
It is different mentality, different cultures.
I'm weaboo, so I want read story about japanes schoolgirls with moe specifics and Japaneses entourage. For other cases I can play in old-good adventures like Longest Journey.
Why this game type is dead now? Because the cool story's with a lot of text and a small amount of action doesn't popular. You can't create well selling game without anime related stuff. Coz only weaboo ready to pay for this.

>> No.2859061

ITT: KS Devs thinking their game will magically create a huge market for english VN.

>> No.2859154

One important question, why is there no porn of the new mascot yet?

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