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2844826 No.2844826 [Reply] [Original]

Yes?

>> No.2844830

Sugoi sugoi

>> No.2844834

where's my fucking remake

>> No.2844836

wai wai~

>> No.2844845
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My eternal waifu.

>> No.2844848

You will never see Elly again. Thanks, Squaresoft.

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>>2844848
Partially Nintendo's fault, too, given they own Monolith Soft. now.

>> No.2844856

>>2844853
I thought Square/Enix owns the original Xenogears. That's why when the dev team bailed they had to make Xenosaga aka not-Xenogears-oh-god-please-dont-sue-us

>> No.2844869

>>2844856
They do, but I doubt Nintendo would want them to take on the franchise again, if it was being offered by Square Enix.

>> No.2844895

>>2844869
Didn't they lose the original dev team leader too?

>> No.2844910

Never played Xenogears, despite knowing that I would love it. Hemm.

>> No.2844916

>>2844910

You wouldnt

Fei is a massive faggot.

>> No.2844917
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Elly was my first waifu.

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I have a fetish for the Enemy Mine Romance. Two people of opposing sides in a war, cast into seclusion in each others' company, forced to cooperate and survive together and fall in love.

It's so ridiculously cliche but it gets me every time.

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I wasn't ready for them to be rescued when they were adrift on the open sea. Damnable Men of the Sea. Can't you see they needed that valuable alone time?

A few more hours and we all know they'd be repopulating on the wreckage.

>> No.2844989

>>2844916
What.

>> No.2845003

>>2844989

It's true,i've never seen a bigger moralfag in my life. He puts even fucking Emiya Shirou to shame in that department.

>> No.2845019

>>2845003

I don't remember much of Fei beyond being a faggot pacifist. Here I was pumped up and eager to thrash fuckers with my punchangaems, beamspam, and GIANT ROBOTS, and this fucker's all like "War is stupid, I hate giant robots, waaah"

FUCK YOU FEI

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>>2845031

Hey, hey. Cut it out.

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>>2845019


MY BROTHER!

Finally someone that understands my PAIN! Oh jesus,whenever I give my honest opinion about this game on /v/ I always get shot down to hell. Seriously I get crowded by fags that claim its "TOO DEEP FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND"

And i'm like "WHAT!? Well whats deep about it!?"

"Your a faggot,so even if I explain it to you,you'll never get it."

"....Well that makes no sense"

inb4coolstorybro

But seriously it pisses me off how such a seemingly good game gets ruined by one overtly boring protagonist. Dude, I could care less about how you feel... Get your ass in that Gear called the Weltall and you pilot it with a fucking SMILE on your face!

And that girl you like called Elly? Stop depressing the fuck out of her too. You're a man,act like one and blow some shit up!

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>>2845125

I think it's nostalgia for the most part.

See, in the early nineties, my Dad, who almost always slept on the couch in the living room (I thought nothing of it at the time), would occasionally let me stay up late and watch TV with him. Usually we'd watch action/horror flicks a la Terminator, Aliens, Predator, or First Blood.

But sometimes, dubbed late-night anime would air. The stuff that was "too much for kids" usually due to explicit violence and the cast saying a lot of grown up words like "damn" and "shit."

This was mostly from 92 to 95, when I was about 5 to 8.

So when I got Xenogears, it was a godsend. It was, crammed onto a two-disc game, those nights when I got to stay up and watch action, sci-fi, and horror. Xenogears progresses a lot like an older anime series. It really should have had an adaptation. It's screaming for one.

So it instills in the otaku that euphoria we all know as the nostalgia bomb. It's hard to describe, and nobody likes having their childhood torn down, so it's easier to write off the other guy as a dumb faggot.

I love Xenogears but I didn't always like Fei. He occasionally said something sensible, but the first impressions were weak. I suppose that's the point of character development, but, well, I still hate Fei The Pacifist.

>> No.2845205

>>2845125
I'm with ya too

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>> No.2845232

She died or what ?

>> No.2845315

>>2845232
not the last time did you even pay attention to the story

>> No.2845329

>>2845315
I've never played it, that's why I'm asking.

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>>2845329
>>2845232

The story deals heavily with eastern religious themes. Of course there's an obligatory western catholicism based organization, but the plot of Xenogears as Fei and Elly are concerned involves them meeting and falling in love several times throughout the ages. In every reincarnation, Elly makes a noble sacrifice of herself and dies either in Fei's arms or just out of his reach.

Fei breaks the cycle in the events of Xenogears and finally saves Elly from having to be a martyr for the umpteen millionth time.

So, yes and no. Elly dies. Elly dies a lot. But only in previous lives. Elly manages to survive the last one.

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>>2845357

To make things freakier, one of Fei's previous incarnations is actually a character in the story who frequently attacks Fei and the group, but never lays a hand on Elly.

I forgot what happens to him by the end of the game, but it's pretty fucking weird when the game reveals that you're playing a character who is the reincarnation of one of the biggest asshole villains who's been hounding you since the beginning of the game.

Also, there's a female villain in the game who is able to possess any woman she wants, because she was the first woman on the planet or some shit and so she's basically every woman and can be whichever one she wants to be whenever she feels like it.

Man, that's messed up.

>> No.2845379

Oh hey, I'm actually transcribing Xenogears music right now just for fun.

Good game, but sort of forgettable even though I played through it twice. But I feel that's because the translation was so bad. The game definitely deserves a port (or remake) with a retranslated script.

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>>2845375
don't forget he's also possessing the body of your dad

I never noticed he never attacked elly though.

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>>2845379

What Xenogears deserves is disc 2.

That's the only reason it was forgettable. Halfway through the story they had to rush things and wash too much shit over the player too quickly. It was easy to lose track of what happened and everything between the birth of Weltall 2 and the ending is a bit of a blur for everyone who played Xenogears.

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>>2845395

Did they ever explain how Grahf and Fei were supposed to be able to exist at the same time even though they were both technically Fei? It was like, Grahf had to possess someone to stay in the game, right?

Did Xenogears explain that fully or did we eventually just get shit handwaved?

>> No.2845408

not even gonna bother reading the thread, but i just wanted to say i fucking LOVE Xenogears.

>> No.2845434

>>2845405

Grahf is the WILL of Lacan. He is no longer the Contact, which is Fei. Basically, Grahf is the mind of a past Contact, but he doesn't have the Contact's body or powers.

Or something like that.

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>>2845434

He had an easy enough time kicking my ass.

>> No.2845631

>>2845446

Even without the Contact's powers, he's incredibly strong due to 500 years of experience and the body of Khan Fong Wong, an incredible fighter, in addition to his own strength.

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>>2844942
My fetish is (any) /h/ in a mecha anime.

>> No.2845824

>>2845750
but that's not worth watching gundam SEED

>> No.2845869

I never finished this game, but I must have fapped to her like 20 times the day I got it

>> No.2845903

>>2845869
you should finish it you see her naked at the end

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>>2845824
I'll let this blatant disrespect towards Gundam SEED slide for now. But if this was ever to occur again, I would have no choice but to educate you about how SEED is the spiritual successor to Gundam 0079. To hate SEED is the same thing as hating 0079. And as you know, hating 0079 is the equivalent to hating Gundam.

tl;dr If you compare/contrast the events of 0079 and SEED you'll notice that SEED is basically a retelling of 0079 with racism and j-pop.

>> No.2845913

Xenogears is a legitimate reason to hate FF7. Square poured all its resources into that game, and basically scrapped all but minimal support for Xenogears.

FF7 is why we got disc 2 with whole sitting in the chair telling a story, when it should have been all gameplay. I'd love to see a remake, but that wont happen.

>> No.2845921

>>2845909
>retelling of 0079 with racism and j-pop

and you wonder why people don't like SEED

>> No.2845933

>>2845913

I believe it was FF8's fault, actually.

I hate both regardless.

>> No.2845957

>>2845903
But it's the stockings that get me going.

I only got as far as the cave. I suck at video games.

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Elly was cute, if a bit useless out of her gear. And in it, until she got her bits, which sucked fuel anyway. I've always liked Miang, though.

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>>2845921
>and you wonder why people don't like SEED
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Speak for yourself you Americant. Gundam SEED is the second most popular Gundam.

Gundam SEED's CE setting will become the first setting to surpass the UC setting in size. With 102+ episodes, 6 movie remakes, 2 spinoffs, 2 ripoffs, and 5 OVAs, plus an additional movie that's rumored to be in production (which might even inspire a third season) the C.E. setting has become the new standard.

Weeaboos agreed, don't bother me about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh0iQfRSq9w

http://www.google.com/trends?q=gundam+seed%2C+gundam+00%2C+gundam+wing&ctab=0&geo=all&da
te=all&sort=0

Picture also related. The C.E. verse is about to surpass the UC verse in size. And to think the C.E. verse has only been around for half a decade while the UC has been out for 4 decades.

>> No.2846006

>>2845987
And X withTurn A failed in Japan.
Japan has a shittaste, what a surprise.

>> No.2846014

>>2845960
Too bad she was the bitch of that pussy-commander.

>> No.2846023

>>2846014

Actually, Miang was using Ramsus the whole time.

>> No.2846027

>>2846023
Using him as in "having sex with him to satisfy her desire". Yeah.

>> No.2846031

>>2845987
but seed is mostly popular with girls so that doesn't count

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>>2846014

Yeah, I liked her better when she was that head of state that got everyone to nuke each other.

>> No.2846040

>>2845987
It also managed to recruit the most newcomers. SEED was the first Gundam where the female demographic played a big role in the ratings. SEED's success revived the franchise. It's a shame Gundam 00 is shitting all over its momentum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_SEED#Reception

>> No.2846066

>>2846027

She was working with Krelian to use him to kill Cain, if I recall correctly. She was also the first to call him "garbage", I believe, while he was still developing in a tube and somewhat convinced Krelian to throw him out into the garbage.

Basically, she was a real bitch to him and he never even knew it.

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>>2846040

>Gundam 00 is shitting all over its momentum.

PFFFFFFFFFFTTTT

HAHAHAHAHA

WHAT IS WITH YOU MONGRELS THESE DAYS!? AHAHAHAHA!!!

>> No.2846086

>>2846040
I'd rather have had it continue losing popularity than the shitty fangirl takeover we ended up with. hopefully unicorn will take things back in the right direction

>> No.2846100

>>2846031
I'm just happy it was able to recruit some more fans to the franchise. Many people are scared away from watching an anime once they discover it has mechas in it. But SEED did a good job of letting people know that Gundam is not, was not, and never will be a story about mechs. The only reason why Gundam 0079 managed to stand out from the herd of 80s mecha is because it wasn't only about the mechs. Sadly, all of Gundam SEED's progress with newcomers was wasted when Gundam 00 aired. Gundam 00 basically starts out with hurr durr my hax mech is stronger than yours. (With little or no regard for character development, romance, comedy, or drama).

>> No.2846126

>>2845125
Xenogears drove me fucking batshit,first off it was too long and WAY too complex,by the time I got to disk 2 I had a migrane.

Then Fei,Fei the single most boring bastard in all of videogames and the biggest pussy I have ever seen.
Protip for a game maker:when you play a game for a half hour and the thing you want most is to kill the main character because he makes you want to cry at his sissy ways and because he bores you to tears is a baaaaad sign-go redevelope the mutherfucker ok?

Elly was hot as all get out,and that's all that's good about that steaming pile of shit.

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>>2846126

Fei annoyed me in the beginning when he was a pacifist but he got over that during the assault on Bart's hideout. It wasn't a deal breaker.

I thought the pacing of Xenogears was awesome. You can't play through it in one go just like you should try to marathon any anime series in one sitting. Shit's bad for you.

It helps to be able to handle extremely lengthy, long running, plot heavy stuff. Xenogears is one long fucking ride. You gotta be ready for it. If you don't have a long night with nothing to do but bask in a dark room lit only by the glow of the TV, you really better wait until you get one of those nights before you try Xenogears.

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Fei's nanomachine colony daughter was awesome too, especially after you make her grow up.

>> No.2846181

>>2845395
Wait. I thought Wisman was your dad.

>> No.2846190

>>2846100

Those people are fuckheads. There's plenty of daytime drama and soaps for faggots who want that shit.

I can understand if you think a mecha show is too much about powerlevels and mecha fights, and that's an understandable concern, but the answer is not to fly on over to the opposite end of the spectrum and turn it into Days of Our Lives With Giant Robots.

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>>2846181

Samefag.

>> No.2846201

>>2846181

Grahf possessed Wiseman. They shared the same body.

Kind of like Fei and Id, only one was out at a time.

Like father, like son.

>> No.2846229

>>2846176

I don't remember that part very well.

>> No.2846253

>>2846190
Even with the aforementioned drama aspects of Gundam SEED, it still was the only true Gundam in the last decade.

>>2846086
>hopefully unicorn will take things back in the right direction
What direction do you want it to go into? SEED was the first Gundam of our generation to return Gundam back to its roots. And if you don't understand this then I'll be pleased to educate you.

Would you rather to see Gundam bomb in the ratings department like (Turn A Gundam) or would you rather see it spiral into mediocrity like Gundam 00. I hate to tell you this, but Gundam 00 and Turn A Gundam have nothing to do with Gundam. Yeah they might be better shows than Gundam SEED but they'll never be better Gundams than Gundam SEED. SEED follows the Gundam blueprint to the T. While Wing, G, and 00 aren't even aware of the blueprint.

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>>2846229

As I recall, one of Fei's reincarnations was a scientist and he created Esmeralda as a living nanomachine colony experiment thing. Then some years later you finds her as a loli and she thinks he's the same Fei as the one who created her because they look the same. If you go back to this huge abandoned underground city thing, you can access some machinery that will make her grow into a teenager, and she gets boosted stats. Plus her hair is prehensile and can turn into a hammer.

>> No.2846312

Fuck you guys, I preferred disc two to disc one. It cut through all the bullshit and gave us a nice, meaningful narration and poetic dialogue of precisely what we wanted to know. Screw holding the analog left and engaging in the same tedious random battles.

>> No.2846315

How is this /jp/-related?

>> No.2846317

So...what?

Fei has three split-personalities that manifested themselves into the real world?

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Arc the Lad 2 > Xenogears > Xenosaga

>> No.2846327

>>2846315

directionless remember. Really threads like these are why I keep coming to /jp/

>> No.2846329

>>2846317

That's about right. Id, which uses the full power of the Contact, The Coward, which is basically Fei as a child, and the Fei you see throughout the game, which is a personality Khan somehow created for Fei to surpress Id.

>> No.2846336

>>2846253
>Turn A Gundam have nothing to do with Gundam.
This just in: Gundam done by the original creator of Gundam and follows the main gundam themes has nothing to do with Gundam. Amazing.
You are the worst SEED fanboy I ever saw.

>> No.2846338

>>2846315

Japanese 2D games are /jp/ related!

>> No.2846353

>>2846315

Xenogears is a JRPG

JRPG = Japanese RPG

And one of the rules is that "All Japanese things are welcome" so there ya go...Really moot should edit that rule a little so its a bit more clearer.

>>2846253

>Gundam 00 and Turn A Gundam have nothing to do with Gundam

And just what do you mean by that?

>SEED was the first Gundam of our generation to return Gundam back to its roots

Yeah it brought it back to its roots. And took a giant shit all over it. In SEED,Gundams dont look anything close to "Real" they move so fast that some of them look like they could even fight on par with the God Gundam from G Gundam. And the worst part is that nearly -EVERYTHING- in SEED is a Gundam because its just a shitty Operating System. And dont even get me started on how bullshit Kira is,he survives a Nuke-looking-level explosion. And dont get me started on him in Destiny....Ugh.

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>>2846253
THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED!

>> No.2846379

>>2846253
So you're saying 0079 and SEED are the only Gundams?

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Wow, a decent /jp/ thread for once. Here, have more Maria.

>> No.2846397

>>2846253
>And the worst part is that nearly -EVERYTHING- in SEED is a Gundam because its just a shitty Operating System
The operating system stuff was a good idea, rather different, but should have been handled better.

>> No.2846424

>>2846391

But... that's not Maria...

>> No.2846427

>>2846353
That's BS. If a CYOA thread of F/SN isn't /jp/, then a vidya thread of JRPGs shouldn't be either.

>> No.2846435

>>2846427
butthurt much? gtfo already

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>> No.2846447

>>2846427
Quit whining in every single thread.
We had this shitstorm last year. You newfriends just don't get it, I guess, but that shit will not get unbanned just because you cry about it all over /jp/.

>> No.2846449

>>2846379
I'm just saying only a few Gundams follow the correct blueprint (e.g. 0079, 0083, 08th team, F91, Zeta, and SEED). One could argue that Gundam Wing follows the blueprint because it pays a lot of homage to 0079.

But other Gundams such as G, Turn A, and 00 have absolutely nothing to do with Gundam. Gundam was never about mechs, nor was it ever about cool/anti-social pretty boys. Gundam is/was about the story of a kid that embarks on a journey of love and warfare.

I should make a chart for this. You start with a hundred points.

1). If the Gundam doesn't have a white base, subtract 10 points.
2). If the Gundam doesn't have a masked man in it, then subtract 5 points.
3). If there's no princess or Sayla clone in it, then subtract 5 points.

...And so on.

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dat hair

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>>2846449
>nor was it ever about cool/anti-social pretty boys
Hahahahahaha. Fuck off. Sage.

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If you don't like SEED then you're not a true fan of Gundam. Here's a comparison between Gundam SEED and 0079.

Gundam 0079:
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1. Kid on a neutral colony who hates war, finds an experimental mobile suit during an attack from enemy forces.
2. Kid is surprisingly good at piloting experimental mobile suit and defeats the two invading mobile suits.
3. Kid joins a white base and travels to Earth while being attacked by a mysterious masked man.
4. They travel to a nearby Earth alliance colony that detains them. They escape said colony and make their way towards Earth.
5. They get into a battle above Earth's atmosphere. The protagonist is forced to make a landing in the Earth's atmosphere.
6. Once on Earth they get into various battles with the masked man.
7. Kid visits his mother.
8. They travel to the desert. At said desert the main character fights against an ace pilot called Ramba Ral (the battle gets postponed). Later that day the main character meets Ramba Ral and his wife. The protagonist kills Ramba Ral.
9. Side character Sayla is revealed to be an important character.
10. ............
11. The desperate enemy reveals a giant laser beam cannon and threatens to use it on Earth.
12. The main character defeats the masked man and prevents the giant laser cannon from being used. The credits roll.

>> No.2846495

>>2846488 [flood detected]
Gundam SEED:
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Kid on a neutral colony who hates war, finds an experimental mobile suit during an attack from enemy forces.[flood detected]
2. Kid is surprisingly good at piloting experimental mobile suit and defeats the two invading mobile suits.
3. Kid joins a white base and travels to Earth while being attacked by a mysterious masked man.
4. They travel to a nearby Earth alliance colony that arrest them. They escape said colony and make their way towards Earth.
5. They get into a battle above Earth's atmosphere. The protagonist is forced to make a landing in the Earth's atmosphere.
6. Once on Earth they get into various battles with the masked man.
7. They travel to the desert. At the said desert the main character fights against an ace pilot called Desert Tiger (the battle ends in a stalemate). Later that day the main character meets the Desert Tiger and his wife. The protagonist kills the Desert Tiger.
8. Kid visits his mother.
9. Side character Cagalli is revealed to be an important character.
10. ...........[flood detected]
11. The desperate enemy reveals a giant laser beam cannon and threatens to use it on Earth.
12. The main character defeats the masked man and prevents the giant laser cannon from being used. The credits roll.[flood detected]

>> No.2846502

>>2846427
Hey there. I like discussions of some JRPGs and alternative route threads now and then. Too bad that some aidoru fapping janitor had to be power crazy and remove it asap.

Aidorufaggies sure are insecure.

>> No.2846518

>>2846449
Oh god, so same old cliché is now a requirement to be called a Gundam? This is what Tomino hated the most, next to turning a franchise into a milking cow that started to happen right after Zeta.
And even then:
>1). If the Gundam doesn't have a white base, subtract 10 points.
Turn A has two of them in fact. Just like Zeta.
>2). If the Gundam doesn't have a masked man in it, then subtract 5 points.
Yes, he's there.
>3). If there's no princess or Sayla clone in it, then subtract 5 points.
Diana/Kihel should count, considering their relationships to masked man.
>Gundam is/was about the story of a kid that embarks on a journey of love and warfare.
Turn A fits it perfectly.
I don't know how you can't consider the ultimate ending to Tomino Gundams, a quintessence of all gundam shows as an actual Gundam show just because it has a slightly different angle.
Turn A did the main idea of all Gundam shows "The war is bad and stupid" better than anything else.

You are fucking retarded. On a grand scale.

>> No.2846521

>>2846449
Sticking religiously to a formula isn't the best way to make interesting/good shows.
And you missed out ZZ, and I was under the impression that V and X also followed the formula.

>> No.2846530

>>2846449

OH THIS IS -PERFECT- Well then allow me to tear what you just said in half by using Gundam 00 as an example:

>1). If the Gundam doesn't have a white base, subtract 10 points.

It was called the Ptolemaios

>2). If the Gundam doesn't have a masked man in it, then subtract 5 points.

MISTA BUSHIDO

>3). If there's no princess or Sayla clone in it, then subtract 5 points.

There's Marina Ismal,she's a Princess. Starting to see how biased you are now?

>> No.2846531

>>2846488
>>2846495
Just because SEED uses the same plot elements 0079 did back in the day, doesn't make it any good. Enjoy your atrocious show.
Oh god, I'm so getting trolled here.

>> No.2846545

>>2846518
Turn A Gundam is just weird. I don't know what to say about it. Yes it does pay some homage to the original but its setting, writing, pacing, characters, and art direction couldn't be more different from Gundam 0079.

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I liked war in the pocket.

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>>2846566

I liked them all.


.......Well,except for ZZ. ZZ Can go suck my ginormously small penis.

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>>2846518
>>2846530
Hooray!

The three examples I listed were just samples. If I wasn't so busy I could list a hundred+ necessary 'events'.

I haven't even warmed up yet.

>> No.2846625

This is best thread so far today.

Fuck I'm going to dig up my Xenogears Artworks book some where.

>> No.2846653

>>2846611
>hundred+
To be a Gundam show you must be a complete clone of the original. Who cares if you were done by the author of the Gundam shows. Fans know better.
>You are the worst SEED fanboy I ever saw.

>> No.2846672

>>2846566
Sorry it's not Gundam it doesnt follow the formula.

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>>2846518
>>2846530
Look, you could create a show about 5 environmentalist who have the power to put their hands together and summon Captain Planet X195 (a giant rainbow colored mech) then you could label said mech "Gundam", but that still doesn't make it a Gundam.

Wing, 00, G Gundam, Turn A, etc... could indeed be better shows than Gundam SEED, but that still doesn't make them Gundams. You're obviously a kid that grew up with these hybrid Gundams, thus you have an immature perception of what Gundam is about. And quite frankly, as a person who grew up on the original, I find your questionable remarks offensive and I request an apology.

tl;dr Your flavor of the month Gundams will never hold a candle to the original Gundam 0079.

>>2846672
Well, unlike Gundam 00 and Turn A Gundam, 0080 never tried to claim it was the de-facto Gundam of its respective generation. 0080 was always meant to be an insignificant deviant of the UC setting. If your Gundam has over 40 episodes and it's the only Gundam that's currently airing at its time, then it better honor the Gundam name/legacy. Otherwise you'll end up with fans such as myself that have the tendency of calling them out on their bastardization of our beloved series.

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>>2846788

> Turn A Gundam
> Directed by Tomino
> Not a Gundam

I'm late to this conversation but, wut?

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