ok, finished ep2. what the fuck is this...IT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!! THE LOVE BATTLE THAT NEVER END. Anyway, with magic flying everywhere, isn't that pretty much said magic exist already?

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Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:32:53 2009 No.2799459 [Reply] [Original]

ok, finished ep2.
what the fuck is this...IT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!! THE LOVE BATTLE THAT NEVER END.

Anyway, with magic flying everywhere, isn't that pretty much said magic exist already?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:33:53 2009 No.2799463 none of those actually happened. Keep reading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:34:53 2009 No.2799465 >Anyway, with magic flying everywhere, isn't that pretty much said magic exist already? You're fucking weak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:34:53 2009 No.2799469 If that's what you are saying about episode 2, then brace for impact in episode 4.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:35:53 2009 No.2799474

I don't know.. these people are flying everywhere using some magic blade and barrier to fight one another.

Also didn't Batrice just summon a bunch of people in the end? Magic butterfly flying everywhere killing people and shit? Do science explain those?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:37:53 2009 No.2799484 File: 334 KB, 711x750, worldend dominator.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck yeah! I liked Episode 2's ending the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR6PYrjEzcQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:38:53 2009 No.2799489 File: 117 KB, 633x480, battler.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799474 That never happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:38:53 2009 No.2799490 >>2799463 How does those work? I thought even Batler saw those crazy shit in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:39:53 2009 No.2799495 >>2799490 He was fucking drunk as shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:40:53 2009 No.2799500 >>2799495 oh shit, god damit.. you are right. Then how do you explain the locked room everywhere then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:40:53 2009 No.2799501 >>2799474 >Also didn't Batrice just summon a bunch of people Isn't that against the rules?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:41:53 2009 No.2799503 >>2799474 Yes. Also, this episode's difficulty was hard, so don't feel too bad.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:42:53 2009 No.2799510

>>2799474
Just because you don't know how something works doesn't mean it's magic.

Just as an example, a massive tower rises out of the ground seemingly out of nowhere.

You can argue "It was a magic summoning"

I can argue "There's a hidden military base underneath our feet, the tower was raised up through some mechanical means."

Now you'll say "But how would such a machine work?"

I can argue back "How would magic work?"

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:43:53 2009 No.2799511

>>2799474
Battler was tripping balls.

I will not divulge the theories I have on episode 2's closed rooms because you are not finished with episode 4 yet and small bombs.

But yeah, this episode is supposed to be Beatrice's crushing victory so I am not sure we can figure it out just yet. I think we may come close though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:45:53 2009 No.2799522 Has some wiki gathered all the cases and their related red text? It'd be nice if I didn't have to replay everything just to find the red text again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:45:53 2009 No.2799524 well, I can pretty much guess now that every scene without Batler in it are all questionable. and also the scene in the end was due to him drinking. dam... this shit is good. I am waiting to fap to this furniture scene in anime version already.

WASSHOI !WsoGLPGdyA Sat Jun 20 10:45:53 2009 No.2799525 [SPOILER]

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>>2799484
Rosa playing DOOM in real life = awesome.
Did you play the Tea Party yet? Episode 2 has a great Tea Party too. Image spoiled in case you haven't read Tea Party 2. If you have, then it's safe to reveal.
Yummy, Maria.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:47:53 2009 No.2799534 >>2799525 But Battler, that is your sistercousin. You can't do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:48:53 2009 No.2799536 >>2799525 yes, thats why the battle between them go on. I guess you can never end it unless one of them surrender. Since it doesn't matter if you lose a game - they will just start the next one...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:49:53 2009 No.2799542 >>2799525 Maria didn't say it in red.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:49:53 2009 No.2799543

>>2799510
You argue that you used magic to blow people's heads off. A Magical arrow that can aim with precision and blow half a person's face clean off.

I say it was the work of small bombs, carried by Beatrice's trained army of seagulls.

You ask me how one would go about getting the materials for said bombs.

I argue back; "Problem, Beatrice?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:50:53 2009 No.2799550 File: 21 KB, 532x495, problem.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I argue back; "Problem, Beatrice? She argues back

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:50:53 2009 No.2799551

man, when I first read ep 1 i was just all like "oh okay, so thats what happened, alright" and believed everything that happened as it was told to me.

But i get on the net and look at discussion of it, and the whole umineko world is turned upside down for me, feels good man.

can't wait for ep 4 to arrive in the mail, i have alot of catching up to do!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:52:53 2009 No.2799558 >Ep2 >fucking awesome oh just wait until Ep3, it will look "meh" compared to it

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Sat Jun 20 10:53:53 2009 No.2799567 File: 233 KB, 416x500, maria19.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799525 Fast forward 10 years Battler isn't even 30 yet. Some people call this image blasphemous.

>>	WASSHOI !WsoGLPGdyA Sat Jun 20 10:53:53 2009 No.2799568 File: 127 KB, 498x650, 1243703515441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799542 Nor could she deny it in red.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:54:53 2009 No.2799573 ep.3 was horrible. Never trust a fucking witch.

>>	WASSHOI !WsoGLPGdyA Sat Jun 20 10:54:53 2009 No.2799576 File: 73 KB, 600x450, 3b815077f0bb54d546755c464e3d639c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799534 Quite the contrary, my friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:55:53 2009 No.2799580 >>2799542 You can't use red text to predict the future. Only speak absolute truths.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:56:53 2009 No.2799585 File: 87 KB, 600x450, battler-ange2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799576 I will admit that a part of me thinks they'd be perfect together, but it's all useless. There'll always be fanart though.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:57:53 2009 No.2799588

>>2799580
the red text is always true isn't it. So it it says 'A will happen' then A will happen definitely. Just like Bratice said Bater will becomes her furniture.
But.. even if Maria said she 'promise' in red. Its only 'promise'. It doesn't mean it will happen.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:58:15 2009 No.2799592 [DELETED]

>>2799573
Goddammit, I finished the whole VN already but OP clearly hasn't beat episode 3 yet, so why leave a spoiler of episode 3 unspoiler tagged?

I hate you right now, and I wasn't even the one spoiled. Because if I was in OP's shoes I'd be pissed off, why the hell would you ruin a great story like that? I can understand if the thread was a theory thread or some other Umineko general thread. Fine, then it'd kinda be OP's fault for venturing into those kinds of threads himself on his own accord. But this is a thread OP made about episode 2.

I hope for OP's sake he's already left the thread and started on episode 3 himself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:02:53 2009 No.2799617 >>2799592 Coming and talking about something before finishing it only causes trouble for others that have to hold back. A spoiler like that is common sense until you over reacted about it and made it seem so very significant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:03:53 2009 No.2799619 >>2799490 >>2799495 >>2799500 > He was fucking drunk as shit. It doesn't make sense. He narrated "My drunkenness was completely blown away."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:04:53 2009 No.2799626 >>2799592 It means nothing to those that havn't played ep.3 As if anyone can see ep3's ending without being told it directly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:04:53 2009 No.2799628 >>2799619 It wasn't in red.

>>	Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY Sat Jun 20 11:04:53 2009 No.2799629 >>2799619 "It's cool guys, I'm totally good to drive. I'm not drunk at all." Drunk people are not good judges for their own state of inebriation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:05:53 2009 No.2799632 >>2799619 I don't think getting drunk works like that though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:06:53 2009 No.2799635 File: 241 KB, 1000x1000, おかゆ - まもえんキッス - うみねこのなく頃にもっとやれマモン百合縁寿 Kiss!Kiss!Kiss! _2895172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2799551 Episode 4 will fuck you up real good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:08:53 2009 No.2799648 >>2799522 This would be great, I kind of wish I'd noted everything down at the time. I'm sure their are better explanations than small bombs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:09:53 2009 No.2799655 >>2799629 People who believe Battler's narration is real can't accept shitty excuses like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:09:53 2009 No.2799659 >>2799648 This is the red text for all the episodes. http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Text

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:10:53 2009 No.2799663 >>2799659 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:11:53 2009 No.2799669 >>2799632 Yes, you don't have to depend on the drunkenness for believing Battler's narration. THERE IS NO MAGIC IN HIS NARRATION.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:15:53 2009 No.2799689

>>2799626
No, because while episode 3's story is developing they'll have that post in the back of their head and know they'll get their trust betrayed. Spoilers aren't all black and white, you don't have to specifically tell someone every detail of the ending for it to be considered a spoiler. People aren't dumb, they can put two and two together y'know. If you didn't specify episode 3 then it'd be okay, because then it'd be general and he wouldn't have it too much in the back of his head. But now it's going to be there while he plays. The minute he sees things start changing he would have known its too good to be true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:17:53 2009 No.2799697 >>2799669 Well, there was Beatrice and people wearing goat masks and being eaten alive. I'd like to think being drunk accounts for at least 2/3 of those delusions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:18:53 2009 No.2799705 >>2799689 It was fine until you over hyped it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:18:53 2009 No.2799707 >>2799697 The illusions seem too specific. All beatrice related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:21:53 2009 No.2799721 ep4 Are there 2 battlers? one from kyrie and one from asumu?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:23:53 2009 No.2799733 >>2799707 Agreed. "Battler was drunk" theory never explain why all Battler's hallucinations have the same setting as other magical scenes. They are thinking that they will be allowed to say anything if they explain with alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:26:53 2009 No.2799748 Anyone think that ryukishi07 accidently made it impossible. seriously ep4 small bombs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:27:53 2009 No.2799751 >>2799697 > Well, there was Beatrice and people wearing goat masks and being eaten alive. It is not what I meant. Reread EP2. There is no magic in Battler's narration.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:27:53 2009 No.2799753 So when we get any answer arc? (AKA: Battler start winning?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:32:53 2009 No.2799782 >>2799721 We're working on it. Someone will post a theory already made sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:33:53 2009 No.2799788 If you thought episode 2 was great then episode 3 will blow your mind. Episode 3 is like 2 on steroids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:36:53 2009 No.2799805 >>2799751 Was it all Beato's POV then? Battler was there, but he wasn't narrating? It's been a while and I've forgotten, also tired.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:37:53 2009 No.2799810 >>2799805 Wish it had some chapter jump. holding ctrl gets boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:39:53 2009 No.2799821 >>2799810 There is chapter jump. Go to start the episode at the beginning and "Cast a spell" to jump to the chapter you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:40:53 2009 No.2799823 >>2799751 Maybe at ep 8 or some PS2/PSP/DS VN spin-offs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:40:53 2009 No.2799825 >>2799810 There is a chapter jump if you go to start instead of load. You can skip to any chapter you've already cleared. Or maybe the feature is only unlocked after you beat the episode, I've never checked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:44:53 2009 No.2799854 >>2799825 Guess I only tried before finishing it. Thanks. Was loading my halfway save everytime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:51:53 2009 No.2799897 Does Beato even 'exist' in ep 2? I can fucking swear she never appear in the same scene as Battler unless he was fucking drunk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:56:53 2009 No.2799923 >>2799897 ep2 The one wing servants and family all saw her. not even the 'shared name' trick works since they comapred her to the portrait I think we're supposed to take that scene as fact. or 'it never happened'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 12:04:53 2009 No.2799953 ep4 I was waiting patiently for 'warlock battler' to show up and slam beato into the desk after battler faded away

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