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[Anonymous No.]

[Aya Shameful !I4IrJba9Qw No.]

>>2749818
Is it that time again?

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Image still manages to make me smile faintly whenever I see it.
Easily the most emotional moment in YMK.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

I couldn't stand little blue bitch, theres a limit to having compassion for people, and with someone who doesn't even try to do anything for herself it's definitely beyond that limit. ಠ_ಠ

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749834
You're cold, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749834
You have no heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749834
blue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749834
Put yourself in her scenario. What are you going to do against multiple kids who have tazers and knives? Telling the teacher isn't going to do anything because they're not on your side. If you tell the police then it'll just be your story versus everyone else's. Dropping out school is pretty much the only solution but then she'd be throwing away money he mom worked hard for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749863
>What are you going to do against multiple kids who have tazers and knives?
Intimidate them by acting homicidal and psychotic.

Always worked before.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

Last time I gave real reasoning I was just given teh "lol internet tough guy xD" routine, no reason to bother again even though its the truth. tl;dr when I was in highschool and people tried messing with me i simply kicked their asses, she might not do that as she's a frail girl regardless of her personality - but there is something called at least standing up for yourself.

If she had done so from the start? There wouldn't be any situation with 'people with knives and tazers' as she woudlnt have been a targeting of bullying at all if she only stood up for herself from the first moment it happened.

>>2749863
It's called having some pride in yourself. Even if it's a losing battle, you shouldn't back down.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749885
Rather, when I was in middleschool and highschool - though highschool I was on a sports team so I didn't get bothered really.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749863
I think it's also interesting that your only ideas involve running to someone else for help.

Have you never stood on your own two feet?

O TRIPL POST MY SIGS TOO LONG XD

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749885
>i simply kicked their asses
Okay. Aeka vs half the girls in the class. Who wins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749890
See I was never on the sports team I was in the Computer Science Society. And sure enough people were messing me at one point. We basically took the entire computer club and attacked that guy. Sure got our asses kicked but no one messed with us afterwards.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749905
Like I said, it's not about if you'll win or not - it's simply standing up for yourself. Even if you get your ass kicked, it's better than 1. being a worthless shit who doesn't even TRY to stand up for themselve 2. dealing with that same shitty ass kicking daily for years.

There's a difference between 'oh youll beat them and show them not to mess with you' and 'youll keep standing back up and trying your best to deal with it/fight back'.

Bullies don't bother people who stand up for themselves - it isn't fun to them.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749913
Forgot my email field ;_;

Also, forgot to mention but - anyone who won't even stand up for themselves doesn't deserve compassion, pity, or help.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749908
That's kind of exactly my point, actually. No matter who you are, or the situation given, if you just stand up for yourself then that's enough. But if you just let him keep doing that, I'd only agree with the bully that you'd deserve to keep getting fucked with.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, I thought this was going to lead to murder -> arrest -> bad end, so I was like really really torn here, one side of me wanted it to happen, the other didn't want a bad end. Fortunately both sides were satisfied.

[iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww No.]

feels good man

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares about little white hair anyway?

Black hair is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749913
>Bullies don't bother people who stand up for themselves

Or they'll just beat you up, laugh at you and bully you even harder next time. Repeat this for everytime you "stand up for yourself".

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749918

>anyone who won't even stand up for themselves doesn't deserve compassion, pity, or help

brb; i'm raping my little sister. Of course, she doesn't deserve compassion, pity, or help.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2749929
Sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749932
See this is why I brought friends. We got our asses kicked but they got hurt too. I figure they didn't think it was worth the hassle if we were gonna all come at them every time.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Whatever, CurryButt, you're just trolling now.
Enjoy being a big, bad alpha male in your dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749938
*hits Pygma-chan*

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749862
Her hair is 'white' but it always has a tint of blue to it, and that with their school uniform = little blue bitch because I don't care enough about her to remember her name.

>>2749932
>>2749937
>>2749943
Sup butthurt fags who let people push them around their whole life? What's it like never standing on your own two feet and continually begging and crying to others?

There's a difference between acting like an 'alpha male' and just not being a huge pussy who is to even try to take action, jones.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2749941
>>2749932

No, in group situations you run at one person and beat them until they can't see, hear, or cry. Everyone else promptly shits their pants and decides not to interfere with you further.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749951
too scared to try and take action*

ಠ3ಠ

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749943
Oh I almost forgot, but thanks for proving my point Jones.
>>2749885

I love how people who got bullied like to make excuses for themselves and tell me im trying to sound like some 'badass' simply because i say 'stand up for yourself'.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2749950
snf.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749951
I was never bullied. I'm trying to see this from Aeka's perspective.
I was always in higher-level classes so I never had to interact with dumb-jock types, lol.

And from Aeka's perspective, that's a useless struggle.
Note from YMK that when Aeka showed signs of resistance, her tormentors just upped the ante.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749951

>>2749937 here.

Don't get me wrong. I never get bullied. Just pointing out how flawed your argument is.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749938 >>2749950 >>2749962
same person

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749966
You're saying she stands up for herself and they just make it worse? Yeah, but how long did she wait to bother trying that? Exactly.

Also, YMK actually PROVES my point - what stops the bullying? Almost killing the bitch - which is VERY much a form of fighting back - she scared the literal shit out of her and she almost died, she nor her friends ever bothered little blue bitch again after that im sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749951
>huge pussy who is to even try to take action, jones.

I know you're trolling but the thing is that "taking action" in most cases has absolutely no effect. In fact it just makes the bullying much worse, unless you can actually manage to beat the crap out of them. And when you're a friendless fat loser your chances are void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749970
*hits Jones-chan*

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749977
You don't become a friendless fat loser by bad luck, just like you don't get bullied if you don't treat YOURSELF as a piece of shit.

It's called self respect, even anon deserves some of that.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2749970
Nope. I rarely post without my trip, actually.
To stay on topic, I liked Aeka's route and did feel bad for her, but this was such a pathetic ending.
But I've already voiced my opinion on this.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749974
It only stopped because they won.
If she fought back but didn't choke the bitch, what do you think would have happened?
Apparently Antoinette would have just backed down in whatever illogical fantasy world you live in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749930

Nekoko is the best.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749937
>>2749967

You're actually saying an argument I never stated is flawed.

You quoted me yourself even. How would you know you're RAPING your sister if she gave no resistance?

Resistance IS a form of standing up for yourself - if she's HELPLESS or not is not what matters - it's that she is doing the little bit she can against 1. someone bigger than her 2. her own family to help herself.

Someone in that situation falls into the category of people who deserve a better situation and help - if she simply bent over for you and cried, then she deserves it and probably would enjoy it.

So no, my argument isn't flawed in that aspect at all - as she would at least TRY even if its futile, so she deserves compassion, pity, and help.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749984
I agree, Curry, but "in most cases has absolutely no effect. In fact it just makes the bullying much worse, unless you can actually manage to beat the crap out of them," was a valid point of his you didn't bother to respond to.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2749974
>she scared the literal shit out of her
Half of the reason I hated it. This was so disgusting and unnecessary. It ruined the "pure" feel of her route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750000
GET!!!!

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2749998
And you don't think somebody whose spirit has been so completely crushed is worth your pity?
I guess this comes back to what I said at first.

You're cold, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749984
>just like you don't get bullied if you don't treat YOURSELF as a piece of shit.

Sure thing, now let's pass on this wonderful message to all the bullied kids in this world, so they can see the light. Even if they have no friends, everyone hates them, they are depressed, have low self esteem, their grades are shit and are constantly regarded as failures by pretty much everyone (family too in some cases), this piece of wisdom will make them see enlightment and give them strenght to fight back in a world that constantly shits on them. Awesome.

Too bad people don't work that way uh?

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2750001
Oh, christ.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749988
I'm tired of hearing your pathetic whining about your own childhood. Just because you never had any balls and probably still don't, doesn't mean a thing in the real world.

I've dealt with, and seen plenty of others deal with, these situations. And 99 out of 100 times, if you simply stand up for yourself, it'll work out even if you get your ass handed to you.

You also ignored an important part of what I said - the first line, how long did little blue bitch wait until even trying to stand up for herself at all?

If you wait until months of bullying have happened they KNOW you're a little bitch who will let them do what they want - even if you show signs otherwise later down the line.

I clearly said that matters - as in unless you fight back the moment it begins the likelihood it will help lessens.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750008
Loser.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750001
FFFFFFFFFFFFF XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>2749984
I treat others as more important than myself and I have never been bullied..

[Anonymous No.]

Kouhei is a jerk. Itakano is superior. Shiki can kill servants.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750011
Are you linking to the wrong post?

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2749984
and? I never said have super self importance and think of yourself as better than everyone else or something. Just have some self respect and self esteem for fucks sake.

And other anon and maybe jones i forget, by 'if you dont treat YOURSELF like shit others wont' i didnt mean magically people will think oh he has self esteem i wont bother him xD The fact is, believing in yourself more than 'im garbage bawwwwwwww ;-;' does make you different as a person - and a lot less likely to get bullied...and even if you DO get bullied, you'd have the self esteem to do something about it.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750008
>world that constantly shits on them

THAT IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS.

It's not any easier for anyone else. You think the rebels in Chechnya were crying about how the Russians were mean to them and that they couldn't get a leg up because they were poor, underfed, and starving, not to mentioned outnumbered ten to one?

Of course not. They gave those Russians hell in a handbasket.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750032
As much of a troll Arc is, the point is right.

The world is shit, it'll make your life shit. It's not about whether you have hardships or not - it's if you face them instead of back down.

[Anonymous No.]

Standing up for yourself? That's rich! I even tried to kill one of those fuckers with a boxcutter.

Did that stop them? Hell no, just made things much worse actually, and not with the bullies themselves only, my family and the school too.

Also, currybut has no idea of what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

It's like I'm in kindergarten or something. "IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU SUCCEED, JUST TRY YOUR BEST!"

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750048
I don't know what I'm talking about? I never said do something horribly illegal like try to murder someone. There's a difference between being a MORON and trying to kill some other kid for kicking you around, and simply standing up for yourself.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750032
I'm Arcueid Brunestud, and I approve of terrorism.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750053
America was founded by terrorists, so who cares.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Damn it, Curry, explain what the hell you were saying in >>2750011 and how that relates to >>2749988 already.
It's okay if you misquoted. It happens to everyone sometimes.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2750048
>Standing up for yourself? That's rich! I even tried to kill one of those fuckers with a boxcutter.
Good girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750032
>It's not any easier for anyone else.

So you're claiming that, let's say, your typical sports jock with the banging hot girlfriend have it has bad as a friendless bullied kid? Sure, life may not be perfect for him, but seriously.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750058
George Washington didn't kill schoolchildren.
I think that's an important difference.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750051

>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU SUCCEED, JUST TRY YOUR BEST!"

That is all that matters. It does not matter if you win or lose, but if you did your very best, people will respect you. And even if they don't, your efforts will be recognized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750032
>>2750045

>realism in VNs
>Arcueid Brunestud!ARC

Ooooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750067
Nope.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750060
I didn't misquote, maybe I just misread you, ignore the first couple lines if that helps make it easier to understand ಠ3ಠ

Also, I'm gonna eat some lunch and play some vidya - so enjoy making counter arguments, telling me im wrong, telling me im a troll, etc in a situation you know I can't reply and disprove you. ಠ3ಠ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750067
>That is all that matters.

I can't stop laughing. Life isn't a shounen anime.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750072
kk lol

But that takes the fun out of it. And here you'd alleviated my boredom completely for a moment ;_;

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750065

You don't know what goes on behind closed doors for him. For all you know, he goes home to an alcoholic mother, doesn't know who his father is, or was abused by his pushy parents in an effort to make him succeed. That banging hot girlfriend? Relationship problems, ho!

Life is not a bed of roses for anyone, kiddo. It's all about how you face adversity. If you think for one minute that the jock in question doesn't have to put up with bad cess, you're dreadfully wrong. Sports are highly physically demanding, and your teammates WILL bully you in an effort to make you do your best. You have to endure a whole lot of bullshit from your team coach, you have to work yourself down to the bone with practice...

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2750079
Sorry brah, but a Butt's gotta eat ;_; bye for now jonesy~kun

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>2750075
It is if you're high all the time!

[Anonymous No.]

Interesting. So, according to this thread if a bullied kid tries his best and stands up for himself the bullying will stop, uh?

I find this most hilarious, please proceed.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh look, it's all my favorite tripfags shitposting. Lovely.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750075

Life is not a shounen anime, but I give you this - if you don't try, you will never succeed.

Winston Churchill failed the 6th grade. However, that never stopped him to work harder! He strived and eventually became the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom during the Second World War. Churchill is generally regarded as one of the most important leaders in Britain and world history. In a poll conducted by the BBC in 2002 to identify the "100 Greatest Britons", participants voted Churchill as the most important of all.


And if you can't respect Winston Churchill, the man who led Britain through a long, bloody war with the Germans, then I can't help you.

Or how about Albert Einstein? He was a theoretical physicist widely regarded as the most important scientist of the 20th century. He was awarded the 1921 Nobel Prize for Physics for his explanation of the photoelectric effect in 1905 and "for his services to Theoretical Physics". However, when Einstein was young, his parents thought he was mentally retarded. His grades in school were so poor that a teacher asked him to quit, saying, "Einstein, you will never amount to anything!"

[KZZO No.]

You guys gotta remember that there are different types of bullies some do it because there bored and some do it because their fucked up etc Your way of dealing with a bully might not work against someone else's bully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750048
That's odd. I tried to kill someone once and they pretty much became an obedient servant after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750075
No, life is a seinen anime. lrn2demograph

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750097
>Or how about Albert Einstein? He was a theoretical physicist widely regarded as the most important scientist of the 20th century. He was awarded the 1921 Nobel Prize for Physics for his explanation of the photoelectric effect in 1905 and "for his services to Theoretical Physics". However, when Einstein was young, his parents thought he was mentally retarded. His grades in school were so poor that a teacher asked him to quit, saying, "Einstein, you will never amount to anything!"

Wrong, this is completely wrong. Einstein was a top student all throughout his school years. This is just an urban legend, perpetuated by the willingness of damn socialists to pretend to themselves that everyone is a unique and special flower, and that some idiot 12 year old who doesn't pay any attention, but merely disrupts things for everyone else, should be bundled into classes with people who might actually be able to make something of themselves. Just in case they somehow suddenly turn out to be a genius later on, and that it's all society's fault that he's a complete bastard, even though this never actually happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750097
You seem to be basing your claims on the premise that every human being is equal. That everyone has the potential to achieve greatness, just by trying their best.

I'm sorry but people do not work that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>HURR DURR I can't stand characters with flaws. I only like unrealistically perfect heroines.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750129

How about when he failed the entrance exam of the Eidgenössische Polytechnische Schule (later Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule (ETH)) in Zürich, Switzerland? That's plenty factual.

Albert had his fuckups, but he didn't curl up into a little ball and cry about the world being unfair.

>>2750136

>every human being is equal

Yes, they are. That is the beauty of humanity - the seed of greatness rests within every one of them, but without using one's potential, it will never amount to anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750136
That's true. The inferior humans should just kill themselves if they don't wish to live to serve, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750083
I just used the sports jock as an example. I could have said "the quiet cool guy who has a lot of friends".

Life is indeed hard for everyone, but some people have it much tougher than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>generalization of humankind and the human experience on the whole

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750155
sup /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750147
>Yes, they are. That is the beauty of humanity - the seed of greatness rests within every one of them, but without using one's potential, it will never amount to anything.

It's like I'm really reading some crappy corny novel wrote by a 14 year old.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750149

Precisely. Just look at the starving babies in Africa, whose lifespans could be counted on one's hand.

However. If you do not try, you cannot succeed.

You can, however, make up reasons in your own head not to try and convince yourself that it is the right way to think. Of course, this ends with you completely failing at everything you ever put your hand to.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750161

This is why you fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750165
>this ends with you completely failing at everything you ever put your hand to.
Isn't that fine? True success is in how much you enjoy life, not how much you accomplish in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750165
>Just look at the starving babies in Africa, whose lifespans could be counted on one's hand.

Exactly, just look at them. Do you think that each one of those has the potential to greatness? Doomed even before they are born, do you think that even all of them could achieve greatness just by trying really hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750165
And you? What have you accomplished by following this optimistic view on life yourself? If you follow it at all, after all, easier said than done right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750176

Well, yeah.
But instead of becoming a doctor or a business man, they'd probably have to become a warlord or pirate.
Still successful.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750172

Yes, but what most people fail to realize is that their lives aren't tailored to suit their tastes and desires. Exceptions will not be made for them. Your environment will not give you special attention, and the world isn't a huge amusement park that serves only to make you happy.

Enjoy life, but do not be eaten up with rage and self-pity when the world inevitably crushes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750180

>TRYING REALLY HARD
>IS REALLY HARD

Well, derp dee doo. If everyone had the strength of will to follow through with the nonsense Arcade Bumstead and Shitass spout, then humankind should already be in the deep-space faring era of science fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750186
Providing that they wouldn't die before accomplishing that. And let's face it, for babies in Africa, the probability of that happening is quite large. So much for innate potential, taken away by some random disease or malnutrition. But I guess they could have avoided that, if they tried REALLY REALLY hard.

[KZZO No.]

Once upon a time a fag tried to bully me so i fought him i knocked him to the floor and decided to walk away he then started to talk shit on the floor and got back up to fight me so once again i knocked him to floor and this shit just kept on going to the point where he was all bloody and could only mumble his insults and i was amazed man how could someone want to hurt another person so badly that they would keep on assaulting them even if it cost them there life? Eventually teachers and shit intervened and i got in trouble etc But two weeks later when we came back to school the same shit went down like every other day until they transferred him. Plain and simple some people are fucked up and they will just keep coming back regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't like the ending, it disn't feel like love at the end like the other two arcs. It was more of a "well, we're out of high school and our futures are fucked, might as well stick with each other!"

Also, Antoinette or whatever the bitch's name was needed an arc. She was probally the most fucked up of all of them, yet she just gets treated like a cold hearted bitch. She just wanted to be loved... ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750206

>NATURAL SELECTION > LIVING CREATURES

Uh durr.
They still have the potential, just that the potential gets dashed by forces beyond human control.

[KZZO No.]

Shit to this day i don't even know what i could have done to get this guy angry he pretty much just said fuck it I'm going to bully this guy!

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750193
>>2750180

That is the thing. Strength of will is immensely important, but not everyone has it.

Some people will never have it. I have been dealt bad hands by life, have sweated and cried and bled like any other, toiled in the ground, and yet I have not allowed anyone to push me down, because my mother did not raise me to be fucked around with by people.
She did not suffer almost unendurable pain on the operating table just so that I could lie in my own feces and cry about how life is hard and people are mean to me.

Subsequently, many good things have come my way through the opportunities I have taken, and I am always in complete control of my surroundings. I retain calm and confidence even in the face of adversity, and generally succeed at what I put my hands to, even if the first few times I fail at it.

Giving up is very easy. But that's for -suckas-.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what if you're born fully paralyzed because of a genetic defect?

Do you still have the potential for greatness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750227
Of course not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750147
Yeah, but he only failed to pass that because the university had silly entrance requirements, with an exam in many subjects, and he had decided to skip all of high school and the end of secondary school. He got exceptional grades in Maths and physics, he probably only failed in some unimportant subject. The results still showed he was destined for greatness, and he got in the next year anyway.
>Yes, they are. That is the beauty of humanity - the seed of greatness rests within every one of them, but without using one's potential, it will never amount to anything.
People are not born equal, great intelligence is mostly determined by birth, and will be apparent from an early age even to the untrained eye. Of course it requires nurturing and some work from the child somewhat to be a true great, but it'll still be quite apparent that they are leagues above the idiots besides them.
Whereas someone born to chavs will almost certainly have an inferior mind that will not be able to succeed at anything, no matter how much help they are given, no matter how hard they work.
Your blind egalitarianism is a threat to society, you and your kind would seek to destroy every future great person, pulling them down just to try and satisfy the false principles you have embraced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750210
I thought Aeka's route had the most convincing romance in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750223
>Strength of will is immensely important, but not everyone has it.

You seem to be contradicting yourself a bit. Let me ask you, is this "strenght of will" a learned behaviour, genetic or a mix of both? What do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750252
Yeah, but the ending sucked ass, IMO.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

Effort and luck do battle forever. There doesn't seem to be any definite answer which is more important.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750262

I am not a psychologist, so I am not fully qualified to answer questions regarding human thought processes and logic. Doubly so as your question has much to do with the mind and not so much with the body. My apologies.

Perhaps if you discusses this with someone who holds degrees in such a thing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750262
It's clearly a mix of both, just like everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750276
I asked your opinion.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2750280

Opinions are very much like assholes. Everyone has one, and they usually stink.

Personally, from what I've learned of the human psyche, people often undermine their own strength of will. They get in their own way. They puddle-jump from self-created disaster to self-created disaster, willfully engineering their own destruction. This is caused by their surroundings, their parentage...many different factors.

But I'm not a psychiatrist, so I might as well be talking out of my ass for all I know.

Also, /opinion, not fact.

[BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl No.]

>>2750356
mine smells great.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2750373

Some things are best left unexplained, dear. Some things.

[Anonymous No.]

ANYBODY ELSE WANTED AN ANTOINETTE ROUTE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751104

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2751104
I can see how one would work. Still not particularly interested, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751132
Yep just take OP's image and swap Aeka with Antoinette

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750356
>Opinions are very much like assholes. Everyone has one, and they usually stink.
>Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6

You don't say...

[Whisperer No.]

I BET YOU'D ALL LOVE AN AYA ROUTE THOUGH, RIGHT?

[ReiNya~<3 !hpU9OhgLVE No.]

>>2751104
Sure, but what the hell would be the good end? My mind is filled only with bad ends.

Oh, wait. Maybe the good end will be Antoinette murdering Aeka for going overboard on the torture. Fuck, that scene pisses me off so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751160
Actually, it felt much more satisfying just being a dick to her. Raping her propably wouldn't be so awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751104
A thousand times over. I'm almost positive they had one planned. Theres a lot of hinting towards her problems and openongs for flags that just seem unanswered and unfufilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2750020
sauce on pic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751170
You keep her from a bitch by showing her that she doesn't need to be a bully to be liked. That fear isn't the same as admiration. You will give her the love she never had, and be the one she opens up to and shows her real self.

The only reason she goes after Aika is because you ignored her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751170
Good end: you both murder Aeka and frame Antoinette's no ex-boyfriend. Her family can't afford a proper burial and no one shows up at the funeral. Aeka's mother kills herself later or is beaten to death by her abusive husband. Kohei and Antoinette share a soda at a family restaurant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751181
I agree. She definitely had problems with that Gingen or whatever. Though she only wants to use you to get at him. Nonetheless, I think you could turn around into a decent human being.

[ReiNya~<3 !hpU9OhgLVE No.]

>>2751237
That works for me.

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2751181
hmm, I always saw that as the openings of her having a chance to change, but as the story progresses she refuses to. So she gets closed off.

I guess that could just be me trying to find a deeper meaning to something that has none though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751236
That's how it would go. However, what about her freinds? You think they'd brown nose you bcuz your with Antoinette? Or would they start to push her out of the group and follow around some other girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751270
She can't change if you ignore her. Which you do, or at least thats what i felt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751270
She refuses to cause she's enraged you chose Aeka over her. She's sees Aeka as inferior. And for you to choose that makes her revert to just being a bullying bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751279
Her friends ditch her for some new girl, since she's no longer the cold-hearted beauty queen. She'll be hurt at first, but then realize they were all shallow cunts and she doesn't need them anyway.

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2751294
>>2751291
Really? She never really seemed to change at all to me.

Not for a damn second, even if she tried to disguise it.
But, again. This is probably just an unrelated rage I have towards people who bring suffering to others to alleviate their own suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751320
Hmmmm... Or maybe she sides with Aeka on something and they all turn on her? Maybe they team up with her ex-douchebag and... Wow, we should write her an arc, this keeps playing out better and better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751334
I could be reading to much into it too, i've seen people who act out cuz its easier to pass the pain to someone else. Also the fear of being hated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751236
>The only reason she goes after Aika is because you ignored her.
Except for the fact that she was bullying Aeka before you even get involved with her.

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>>2751181
This was another reason why this "solution" that Kouhei and Aeka come to seems so random, when there's much evidence to hint toward Antoinette's more sympathetic side, and by that, other solutions.
And possibly a separate route.
But I do believe there was a lot of potential for her to change in other ways. She wasn't a particularly one-sided character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751378
Your name makes me cry thinking of Sora's route

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want Antoinette to change. I don't want to see her better self. I don't want to make her to become a good person.
I just want to kill her. Watch her burn. Choke her until she passes out, and do it again after she regains consciousness. I want her to feel the pain. I would want to rape her if she didn't disgust me. I would want to chop her head off but it would be too painless. I want her to suffer.
Also, I want to make Aeka feel good. And I HATE moeblobs.

[Anonymous No.]

Its incredible how this thread is WORST then the same one in /a/ right now.

Come on, /jp/, wtf?

[Anonymous No.]

sup /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751435
Why do you think that its the worst?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751425

>Also, I want to make Aeka feel good.
>And I HATE moeblobs.

wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751442

Currybutt

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751445
Strange, isn't it?
Maybe its because she's being bullied. I was too, so I guess its an affection for a fellow bullee.

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2751425
WHY WONT YOU HATE ME

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751448
He left pretty soon. Rest of the thread is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751451

I see... I was also bullied my entire high school life, so I felt a strong sympathy towards her.

However, unlike her, I fought back (not saying she should have done it, though - I was a very big kid for my age and it was not the whole class vs me either), but thats beside the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751142

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2751555
Wait a second, maybe he's on to something.

Only instead of replacing Aeka with Antoinette you replace Antoinette with Kohei.

And then you replace his neck with his penis.
and maybe loosen the grip just a tad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751661

Why, that is a fine idea you have good sir. Where may I subscribe to your newsletter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2751661

I don't know why, but I lol'd HARD.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably because this scenario results in Kohei doing a headstand as they try desperately to give him an upside down hand job without pushing him over and inadvertently pulling his penis off.