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I CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK/
BEST.
FUCKING.
EPISODE.
GODDAMN I'M GETTING A PANIC ATTACK. SAVE GAMES FUCKING EVERYWHERE. I MANAGED TO FILL IT UP TO PAGE 3 FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I'll say this in red.
>>>/rs/FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCK

>> No.2731903

sup /a/

>> No.2731929

>>2731899

Definitely one of the best scenes. It's a tie between the end of Episode 2 and this.

>> No.2731943

0:30 onwards of "mortal stampede". reminded me of one of the songs from the touhou games. does it ring a bell for anyone?

>> No.2731945

>SAVE GAMES FUCKING EVERYWHERE

Glad to know somebody else did that.

I flooded with saves throughout the series of scenes of the second to tenth twilights.

>> No.2731951

>>2731943

It has the same general feel as most Touhou themes, but unless it's something from the UFO demo then I don't hear anything directly similar.

>> No.2731954

>>2731951
>UFO

hey thanks. that's it. the introduction of the 2nd stage's boss theme

>> No.2731956

>>2731945

Gotta love how witch-hunt split up the translation patches

First half was meh
Second half? RIGHT CLICKING TO THE MENU LIKE THE MOTHERFUCKING FIST OF THE NORTH STAR

I also grinned like an idiot during some of the really badass scenes. Anyone else did that?

particularly at ange summoning the 7 stakes

>> No.2731963

>>2731956

Guilty of grinning during: First twilight. Entirety of chapter 16. Ange summoning the Stakes (after baaawing a bit). DREAMEND DISCHARGER manually

>> No.2731972

>>2731956

Silly grinning aside (I was probably smirking in every scene that wasn't sad), I laughed like a motherfucker during KRAUSS KOUNTER and BSoD Bunnies.

>> No.2731973

>>2731956
>>particularly at ange summoning the 7 stakes

But that never happened
Because magic doesn't exist
And Ange dies in 1998

>> No.2731974

>>2731956

oh and can't forget the "revolt" scene. that was really unexpected

>> No.2731991

>>2731973

I know but as long as I believe it really did happen

>> No.2731993

>>2731972

Was funny with the whole loser flags and the goat's past

>> No.2731995

>>2731991

Everybody dropping dead around Ange was due to the escort with a sniper rifle.

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It saddens me that there likely won't be another episode that has as much Stake screentime.

It also saddens me that the Stake "Sisters" aren't real.

>> No.2732007

Judging from the discussions this shit is awesome, how much more will it take to be completed ?
I don't like reading incomplete stories, so I'm waiting for the translation and story itself to be finished.

>> No.2732008

>>2731993

I thought that was great.

But the best part was that his powerlevel ended up OVER
NINE
THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

>> No.2732013

>>2731995
That never happens either
Because Ange is dead and her evil aunt is still alive

>> No.2732017

i came when dreamenddischarger started playing and battler was shit serious

>> No.2732029

>>2732007
Assuming they're 4 more games, maybe around 1 and half years?

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>>2732008

VIRGILIA WHAT IS HIS POWER LEVEL?!

And she was reduced to comic relief in this episode

>> No.2732034

>>2732007

1 and a half years but Umineko is better when it's not completed because you get speculation time that way.

>> No.2732035

>>2732029
I forgot to add in translation time so maybe 2 years.

>> No.2732049
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Why are they so beautifully gay for each other, /jp/?
>>2732032
She was extremely cute that way.

>> No.2732053

>so I'm waiting for the story to be finished.
You're doing it wrong.

>> No.2732054

>>2732032

I'll stand by that EVERYONE is comedic relief in this episode.

>> No.2732056

"When They Cry" series are made for the user's discussion.

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>>2732049

I like how she implied that she was rooting for Battler even though she turned all "scary" later on

>> No.2732064

>>2732032

When she opened both her eyes I completely freaked the fuck out.

But then it was a comedy scene so yeah.

>> No.2732066

ryukishi07 really outdone himself with umineko. higurashi was okay but this had a motherfucking ton of lead ins. finding out the significance behind "uu-uu". the way he introduced the "bing-bong" and then hearing it at a critical moment later on

>> No.2732079

I heard how George was going to be GAR in this but it really exceeded my expectations BY OVER 9000

Seriously. Being able to hit the enemy but holding back on purpose? HOW HIGH IS YOUR POWER LEVEL GEORGE?!

>> No.2732086

>>2732079

o hai. looks like I'm gonna be the villian in this episode. fuhahahahahahaha.

before that though Gaap-san....
YOU WILL BE THE FIRST I KILL

>> No.2732088

>>2732079
As high as he can kick, apparently.

>> No.2732091

>>2732086

That was so utterly badass.

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>>2732066
Oh god, I think I nearly screamed when the loser flag sound popped up during the Gaap fight.

Also, CUZFIST

>> No.2732097

>>2732066
The uu-uu being the first magic made me cry rivers and hate Rosa even more, can she get any worse?

>> No.2732098

>>2732092
Yeah... that bell right then sounded like the same sound you hear when you get hit with a torque bow.

>> No.2732112

>>2732097

Don't hate Rosa.

Hate THE HATEFUL BLACK WITCH OF HATRED.

>> No.2732116

>>2732112
*eva_beato.jpg*

u mad?

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GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.2732120

>>2731899
shut up.

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GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.2732125

>>2732120

you're pitiful :3

>> No.2732130

>>2732097
The Rosa which was tortured by the witch was not the real bitch. She was MARIA's delusion about what the evil witch possessing her mother could be like. Too one-sidedly evil. At least this is my theory.

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>> No.2732159

>>2732130
Yeah, that's what I think too. What made me hate her was the real rosa completely disregarding the meaning that moaning sound had to Maria. I mean of course there's no way she would know Maria considered it magic to always be friends with her, but I don't know, that's yet another failure as a mother.
>>2732112
But...Witches don't exist...

>> No.2732169

>>2732159

>uu-- is a magic spell! uu--

>MAGIC DOESN'T EXIST

How do you live?

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Oh god I want to see every character with a vagina wear Gaap's costume.

>> No.2732172

>>2732007
It not being completed is a good thing. You can make your own theories and discuss theories with others. It's because nobody knows the true answers so we can only take what information we have and speculate. Once it's finished, you can't do that. If you make a theory that's incorrect, someone will immediately correct you and tell the answer.

>> No.2732175

>>2732170

I wouldn't mind seeing it on some of the ones with penises, really.

Kanon, Sakutaro, Battler, and Ronove come to mind.

>> No.2732185

>>2732170
>>2732175

Gaapsmith.jpg

>> No.2732192

>>2732169
I'm not saying it's magic, I'm just saying it's important to her. And Rosa won't allow it.
>>2732170
..I'm really curious about how Gaap will be animated. I mean, she...kicks and all... That would be kinda awkward.

>> No.2732202

>>2732185
MY VIRGIN EYES

>> No.2732203

>>2732192

>And Rosa won't allow it.

Rosa doesn't think it means anything.

Maria has never said what it means.

I'd get annoyed at a kid who babbles every fifth word too.

>> No.2732220

>>2732203
Yeah, I understand I guess, but that doesn't really help her after the scene with Sakutaro and the guy at the hotel after that...
>>2732175
>Kanon, Sakutaro
Well, I wouldn't really mind.
>Battler, and Ronove
Oh god, take that out of my mind.

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>insert copypasta here

>pic related its me and my bitch

>> No.2732229

>>2732225
TOMITAKE FLASH

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Just playing through it right now.

A couple of questions.

1. Why is Beato such a slut?
and
2. When did Virgilia become more incompetent than Team Rocket?!?!?!

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>>2732185
>>2732175

>> No.2732237

>>2732170
What's Rosa's problem?

>> No.2732239

>>2732225
Is Shannon supposed to be plump maid moe~ or is that a case of QUALITY?

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Ronove is fine just the way he is.

Though I wonder how he'd react if someone shave off his mustache while he was asleep.

>> No.2732242

>>2732237
I think she's yelling about how she's charging gold for looking or something.

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>>2732234
"Yeah Battler, throw me against the wall, violate me and make me remember the joy of being dominated".

>> No.2732244

>>2732192

They'll either

A: Skip making certain frames

B: Cleverly censor the exposed parts

C: Edit her costume


B Sounds the most likely. Since her the costume looks to be pretty well attatched to her breasts, and her skirt is long enough to cover the naughty bits. Sort of like a China dress.

I must say i'm surprised Battler didnt ogle her more. I found myself unable to find an appropriate place to set my eyes. Looking at those drills is like looking at a hurricane so I find myself usually focusing on her breasts. Actually,when I recall Gaap,all I remember IS a pair of breasts...! I'm not sure if I should call that a good design or....Whatever else you can call it!

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>>2732244
From the itrollu collection.

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>>2732244
agreed, though I didn't even notice that she was wearing a double sided apron with nothing under it unitl I unlocked the full ep 4 tips after the ???? tea party.

>> No.2732255

>>2732244
When I see Gaap, I see a pair of boobs attached to a yellow mop. It also irked me to see that her arms never moved.

>> No.2732263

>>2732244

they're gonna edit it. even shannon's edited and it just shows her thigh.

>> No.2732266

>>2732244
>Actually,when I recall Gaap,all I remember IS a pair of breasts
Now that I think of it, me too. Thanks, you made me feel kinda unconfortable.

>> No.2732276

>>2732266
Dunno her face and that outrageous hairstyle with the small top hat attracts my attention a lot more. If I wanted to stare at Umineko boobs I'd read the Episode 1 manga for Natsuhi and Eva.

>> No.2732286

>Gaap = breasts

Oh thank god I wasn't the only one not looking at her face.

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Looks about the same to me...

>> No.2732289

>>2732244

I hope they don't do some stupid shit like having her wear a school swimsuit under it.

>> No.2732297

I don't think anyone recall Gaap for anything other than delicious sideboobs and Yukari de ja vu.

>> No.2732307

>>2732276
I think that caught my attention more because I couldn't stop thinking about how unconfortable it must be to wear that. I imagine cosplays and stuff, too. And yet I can't take my eyes off it. I think the only time I paid any attention to her face was when she did that creepy smile on the bing-bong part, when she tricked George and Jessica.
>>2732289
I really, REALLY can't imagine that.

>> No.2732311

Needs more porn tbh.

>> No.2732321

>>2732311
Yes.

It needs more Virgillia.

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>>2732307
let me help

>> No.2732337

What was the music track with MICROSOFT SAM talking in the background? that really irritated the hell out of me.

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>>2732334
Looks ruined man also Gaap's standards.

>> No.2732342

>>2732334
Jesus christ, that looks awf-- Hey, it wouldn't be that bad if it was red...

>> No.2732355

Who is Gaap anyway? Ronove let slip that Genji was the vessel for him, and the Virgilia/Kumasawa connection is obvious, but what about Gaap? Who does she tie up to?

>> No.2732357

>>2732337
system0?

>> No.2732364

>>2732337

Agreed. Fuck you, Sam.

>>2732357

No, that was the Star Trek quotes.

>> No.2732370

>>2732355

I have to sayyyyyy...
Natsuhi.
Just cause.

>> No.2732373

Yukari can rape Gaap, discuss.

>> No.2732379

>>2732355
Kinzo's wife? Maybe?

>> No.2732384

>>2732379
but Virgilia is Kinzo's wife

>> No.2732388

>>2732364
Endless Nine...

>> No.2732389

>>2732384
No, she's Kumasawa.

>> No.2732483

>>2732355
Why do you believe that Gaap's vessel is human?

>> No.2732515

Gaap's vessel might the clothes that Rosa designs fo
her company. As you all now the company is not doing good and what Gaap is wearing might the proof of that.

>> No.2732531

>>2732515
Well, at least someone is wearing her clothing.

Don't think that Rosa would like to know that her clothing is in high demand in Hell, though.

>> No.2732536

>>2732531
Depends on how much in royalties and trips to Hokkaido she got out of it.

>> No.2732538

I bet $5 that Pendragon-sama looks like Saber.

>> No.2732544

>>2732531
Clothes that are so bad they can go to Hell?

>> No.2732558

>>2732515
Well, Rosa making horrible clothes would explain Maria's idiotic crown thing.

>> No.2732573

>>2732538
Pendragon's a guy with a purple hand/claw thing
He's going to show up in Ep 5

>> No.2732581

>>2732234
Beato turns into slut when she's drunk

>> No.2732586

>>2732581
>Beato turns into slut when she's drunk
Just like a normal girl you mean?

>> No.2732589

Yes, Maria and Ange showed us that imaginary characters are created by someone, from their own vessel.
So, who created imaginary characters in Rokkenjima during October 4-5? And what does "they overwrite the truth" mean?
Anti-fantasy have to remove fantasy from their explanations about it.

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>>2732586
Well, men fuck anything that walks even without drinking alcohol.

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>>2732606
>Well, foreign men named Rance fuck anything that walks even without drinking alcohol.

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MOAR CIRNO

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I don't get why this is being bombed.

Guess you're just shitting up good threads to troll?

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>>2732665
Your reasoning only makes his bot harder

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EPIC GAR

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>>2732705
>5

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>>2732665
Probably a KS dev that can't handle a superior VN.

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So how about that Umineko, guys?

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>>2732744
Umineko? What's that? All I see here is Cirno.

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baka baka lol

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>> No.2732780

>>2732754
Now you don't see Cirno.

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>> No.2732784

>>2732780
Oh, cool, awesome.

So uh. Witches. Yeah. Not existing and stuff.

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>>2732784
Yeah, and Gapgap's obscenity.

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>>2732801
Rocko's Modern Life? In my Touhou?

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>>2732801
i like where this is heading

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>> No.2732895

>>2732873
It felt like I was playing Planetarian, at that point. ;_;

>> No.2732899

>>2732895
I'm sorry, when I hear Onii-chan I think of those poor goats.

>> No.2732901

Am I the only one who thought the "motherfucking powerlevels and shit" scene was the dumbest part of the episode?

>> No.2732904

>>2732901
Hilariously dumb.

>> No.2732905

>>2732901
Probably

>> No.2732906

>>2732901
Krauss can kill zombie goatses discuss

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>>2732899
Can't wait to see goats x Virgilia.

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>>2732901

it was suposed to be humorous...

but the only part that I found funny was pic

>> No.2732914

Virgilia and Goat-kun represented Kumasawa and Gohda as getting forcefully hanged by Krauss, then shot in the head.

>> No.2732932

Kyrie is the mastermind.

>> No.2732937

>>2732932
Sounds reliable, she was using the phone all the time

>> No.2732944

>>2732932
I still really like this theory, with her motive being that Battler is her real son and the sin of him leaving being the cause. Though what I read last night about a 3rd Beatrice who's real name is Maria seems more likely. I mean with Maria's name being in the epitaph and Kinzo making a fuss over Maria's naming.

>> No.2732945

By the way, will the next game include episodes 1-4, or is it the same deal as with Higurashi?

>> No.2732949

>>2732945
New game.
Umineko no naku koro ni Ura.
No epi 1-4, just Epi 5

>> No.2732951

>>>2732949
>Ura

Is that confirmed?

>> No.2732954

>>2732951
It was on Ryuukishi diary or something like that.

>> No.2732957

Watch Battler turn out to be Kinzo's grandson by the real Beatrice's descendant. Then we'll find out that Beato of the 1986 is also his sister. Rudolph found Battler to replace the real one. Since he actually has Kinzo's blood, there would be direct lineage from Kinzo, regardless of whether Rudolph was actually the father.

Or something.

>> No.2733056

can't wait to rage how they will fuck up the anime adaptation

>> No.2733103

>Miang !F6TSKzw166
back to /a/ with you.

>> No.2733108

>>2732957
What I'm curious about is what happened to Battler Mk1? How is Mk2 supposed to help Rudolf take over the family when both Jessica and George outrank him? Who exactly is Asumu anyway?

>> No.2734864

>>2732899

"I'm sorry little sister... Onii-chan won't be able to make it back"

>> No.2734872

>>2732337

if you meant the one played during the last portion of the main game, エンドレスナイン(リズム付き)

>> No.2734878

>>2734872

did dai compose this? or was it the other guy who did rahu goldenslaughterer

>> No.2734879

>>2733108
Mk 1 is dead

>> No.2734899

>>2731995
I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT REALIZE/THINK OF THAT WHEN I FIRST READ IT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME MAGIC DOESNT EXIST
>>2732901
I guess most people like or at least don't mind those parts, but I find almost all of the "look here is some magic that is happening" to be overdone, and the way that the human characters always act to be sort of melodramatic. With the exceptions of Kyrie and Rudolf in episode 3.

>> No.2734904

>>2734878
says its dai in the music box.

>> No.2734908

Maria its Gaap vessel since she asked Beatrice to teach her magic that'll help her get revenge and Beatrice mentioned something about teaching her Abyss magic or sth...

>> No.2734919

>>2734899

it may be over the top but it made me like the characters more so it's okay.

>> No.2734930

This episode certainly is the peak of the series so far. Will there even be any more middle-aged people kicking ass in the "answer arcs"? ;_;

>> No.2734932

If Krauss was my dad, things would be different around here

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AND HERE I FUCKING WAS TELLING MYSELF "OK, WELL THE NEXT GAME MIGHT BE BETTER BUT NO TEA PARTY COULD EVER TOP COWTIT SLICING SAMMICH MAKING BEATRICE HEAD SLAMMING BATTLER"

I WAS FUCKING WRONG WASN'T I?

WARNING: THE PICTURE'S RESOLUTION WAS TOO LARGE FOR 4CHAN. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S LIKE HAVING A PENIS TOO BIG FOR A VAGINA. IT WON'T FIT BUT IT'S STILL AWESOME.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8821/thisisawesomeasshit.jpg

YOU JUST GOTTA FIND A BIGGER VAGINA.

>> No.2734973

About how Battler was able to say Ange was his sister in red. Is there a possibility that he's Kyrie's son who was thought to have been a miscarriage?

>> No.2734987

About the "uuuu" being magic, especially "get along with Mama" magic, I thought it was pretty interesting considering the delicious irony it creates in the whole story up until then.

It also made me very happy because I HATE that stupid noise and Maria in general, and hate the alleged magic which obviously doesn't exist anyways, so it's a nice way to combine them for convenient hating!

>> No.2734990

>>2734973
yes

>> No.2734991

>>2734987
Yeah? Well, I hate you, so there!

>> No.2735008

>>2734973
that was what I was thinking as well. also did you notice that battler called kyrie mom for the first time in ep 4? doesn't really mean hes saying that kyrie is his actual mother but I thought it was interesting none the less.

>> No.2735013

>>2734987
Sup Rosa.

>> No.2735037

>>2735008
Not only is Kyrie (probably) Battler's actual mother, but there's probably a second Battler

Recall that these were said in red:
"I am Ushiromiya Battler"
"Ushiromiya Battler is Asumu's son"
"I am Ushiromiya Asumu's son"


As far as I can see, only by accepting a second Battler's (whether he's currently alive or dead is questionable) existence at some point in time can we account for these statements.

>> No.2735051

>>2735037
It also sort of fits if you say: "Ushiromiya Battler is the name that would have been given to Asumu's son if she had not miscarried"

Works there too.

Yes, the second son theory is still a possibility, but I think with the fact that a miscarriage probably occurred, this one is more likely.

That being said, I'm pretty sure there can't really be much further debate in the manner because there's just not enough evidence to support either theory. Battler's sin could be so much as "He forgot to give Kinzo his medicine and Kinzo died which made Krauss start getting really fucking nervous so he had to make it seem like Kinzo was killed alongside his siblings"

Though that's just a dumb idea.

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WHO WROTE THIS ON THE DOOR AT THE END OF EPISODE 3 :F

>> No.2735108

>>2735100

"Beatrice", duh.

>> No.2735124

>>2735108

Your toxin is weak, bro

>> No.2735133

>>2735100
more to the point why the fuck would they write the pin number for the safety deposit box?

>> No.2735141

>>2735133
It's not the pin number to the safety deposit box.

It's a very important number known at least by the owner, and he didn't want to have to remember a second series of 8 important numbers.

>> No.2735146

>>2735037

I took those statements to mean that Asumu was Battler's mother in the sense that she raised him. However, a much more literal statement like "Battler was born of Asumu" is false because she's not his birth mother.

>> No.2735161

>>2735133

Exactly, the culprit had already set in motion the money scheme, so that would indicate that someone still alive was the original planner of the event (or that Beatrice did it, but that's boring). Did that mean solving the riddle and killing everyone to keep the gold was full of shit and that Eva had planned all of it in advance, in which case you've got to wonder how the hell she had access to that kind of money, etc etc

>> No.2735187

>>2735124

That is what you think.
Rather, I mean it is the 17th human, "Beatrice", whom Battler witnessed in the final hour of October 4th!

>> No.2735219

>>2735037
That wasn't said in red. Also, there was no mention of gender. The translation reflected this:
Ushiromiya Battler was born from Ushiromiya Asumu

But Battler wasn't able to say this one:
I was born from Ushiromiya Asumu

Which suggests the other Battler is not necessarily a male. Although it was just there for vagueness.

>> No.2735272

>>2735219

About Battler not being able to say the "I" statement. He said it as meta Battler, right? And in the same way that MARIA isn't Ushiromiya Maria and ANGE not being the same as Ushiromiya Ange, doesn't that mean that meta Battler wasn't able to say it because the one who was born from Asumu was Ushiromiya Battler?

>> No.2735280

>>2732954
Ryuukishi hasn't announced anything.
Someone told a lie the title of answer arcs are "Umineko Ura" yesterday, and you stupid believe it.

>> No.2735364

Battler is really Kinzo from the past, transported into the future.

>> No.2735370

>>2735364
But "Battler is Kinzo's grandson," or something similar, was stated in red.

Pime taradox?

>> No.2735395

>>2735370
No, it was never stated in red.

Ange stated in blue that both "Battler isn't Asumu's son" and "my opponent is Kinzo's grandson" don't conflict each other at all, so long he is Rudolf's son, which wasn't denied in red.

>> No.2735408

>>2735272
That doesn't work. Battler and meta battler are the same. The proof is that Beato could say in red it is his sin in red (Your sin) despite it was the suit beatrice that said that to game Battler.

Furthermore, Ange could call him "onii chan" in red, while meta battler could call her his sister. If both were considered different due of being "meta" version of their world self, it wouldn't work.

Therefore, game battler = Meta battler, just their context, knowledge etc are very different.

>> No.2735448

I wonder how impressive the power levels of the pieces will end up by the end of the series. There seems to be a steady increase in the general ability to resist with each volume.

>> No.2735463

If we assume that 0715 is meant to signify Battler's birthday and isnt just a coincidence, I'm gonna guess that 1129 is the day that Battler committed his 'sin'. So the person who set up all that money wasn't Kinzo. Though it may have been done with his help. The letters that had been sent to the victims families weren't going to arrive for some time, so only the killer, or orchestrator, could have done it.

>> No.2735473

>>2731899
出て行け!基地外!

>> No.2735485

The statement that Battler was not born from Asumu, but she is Battler's mother, is probably not veiled semantics, its a literal statement. Maybe Asumu was the one to miscarry. Or maybe her son died very young (November 29th perhaps...?). If Kyrie's baby did in fact survive, might Kinzo and the Ushiromiya group not have put pressure on her family to turn over her child?
The Sumadera are having some tough times, right? Kinzo might have been able to lean on them some.

>> No.2735527

>>2735485

How much truth was there exactly to Kyrie's rant to Leviathan? If you assume Battler is Kyrie's son, then that would make her a liar, or rather just taking an extremely odd viewpoint on Asumu's miscarriage. And if she wasn't lying about her and Rudolf being in love, then why exactly would Rudolph marry Asumu even with her miscarriage, given that that was the supposed reason for the marriage to begin with. Was he pressured by Kinzo for some reason (probably pertaining to Asumu's family)? Or really, I suppose he might've just married her when she got pregnant, which happened to be before Kyrie did.

>> No.2735577

>>2735527
It's a 'magical' scene, so one should take the dialogue with a grain of salt. If it was Eva or Hideyoshi she was confronting, I doubt anything of the sort was said at all. Taking it at face value though, I suppose its possible she doesn't even know that her child survived. Though Ange seemed to know what was going on with that, so I doubt it.

In the end, it was neither confirmed nor denied that Battler was Rudolph's son, or Kinzo's grandson. We can interpret this in a number of ways. Beato's assertion that Battler was replaced in the last 6 years was BS, since he knew the family too familiarly and remembered things about his family from before.

Anyway, Ange said in red that he was her brother, and I think that the red, though it may be used out of context and to disguise the truth, still has to be taken literally.

>> No.2735601

Was the STORM ever said in red? Maybe there is like a sniper on a fuckin' boat about a thousand meters away and has a modified gun to shoot stakes or it's a cross bow and the stakes are merely the bolts?

Anychances nah didn't think so.

>> No.2735605

>>2735100
Wasn't that also in episode 1?

>> No.2735611

Did anyone else notice this really weird thing that Beatrice said in red? I remember it starting with "My" and it was quite clearly before Battler learned how to use the Red himself. I'd go take a screen shot of it myself but dammit that was so far into the game and I only made one single save which was near the end.

"My family"....Erhhh,I completely forget. It was such an odd thing to say in red too.

>> No.2735777

>>2734973

No, it simply means that He is Rudolf's son, even if he is not Asumu's son, thus he's still Ange's brother since they have the same father.

>> No.2735919

Hey guys, what did Ange, Mammon, and Sakutarou saw in the seaman's house?

I'm guessing black witch?

>> No.2735930

>>2735919
we don't know but some have guessed it was another Sakutarou doll and that rosa lied about the original being hand made.

>> No.2735955

>>2735930

Probably this. It'd explain why Ange was able to revive Sakutaro when Beatrice outright said she couldnt. And it'd also add fuel to the fire onto the goal of destroying Beatrices and Maria's little happy place. After all,Ange was still mulling over how to revive Sakutaro in Maria's eyes. That was a pretty perfect and flawless way. As to how the sailor got it though.......That's anyone's guess.

>> No.2736047

>>2735955
>how the sailor got it

Here's another theory. Maria gave the captain the torn up sakutaro for god knows what and he's been putting it in the display case for a while. and maybe jizzing all over it occasionally

...

>> No.2736179

Just finished the ??? tea party.

You know how throughout the game Kinzo had been saying that the greater the odds the more powerful the magic that will occur will become? And how Ange was able to summon the 7 stakes in front of humans even though it didn't happen?

With both witches proclaiming that Beatrice have a 0 percent chance of winning. Doesn't that mean that she will be able to perform the greatest magic and end up winning? Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl.

>> No.2736189

>>2736179
You know there's no solid proof that Bern is the Frederica of Higurashi. The only evidence you have to go by is what she says and that wasn't in red.

>> No.2736190

>>2736179
>Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl.
She is.

Bernkastel is not. After all, she and Furude Rika are not the same. Shame on you if you thought so.

>> No.2736209

>>2736189

yeah everything that's not in red is a lie

derp.

>> No.2736212

>>2736189

That made sense. But Bernkastel was created when Rika named the "Rika who travelled across worlds" after a wine bottle, right? So does that mean that the Bernkastel in Higurashi is probably still living out her life with her friends? Or did it take a consciousness of its own and is perhaps somewhere else?

>> No.2736214

it's the same fucking bitch.

check it out nigs:

Rika Furude
Furude Rika
FurudeRika
Fruderika
Frederika

and bernkastel is a real wine. who likes wine? furude rika.

>> No.2736217

MUST-NOT-READ-BEFORE-FINISHING-EPISODE

>> No.2736220

>>2736214
>I am who I am; Frederica Bernkastel.
>Furude Rika and Frederica are different. Shame on you if you thought so.
>My age? I've gotten bored with it, so I've quit counting.
>
>Huh? Are you speculating that the real identity of the Oyashiro-sama is me?
>Giggle giggle. You are so insolent.
>The Oyashiro-sama is the Oyashiro-sama. You want me to introduce it to you? It's rather shy.
>It gets frightened easily so don't scare it, okay? However, it seems that you are the one that's scared.
>
>Giggle giggle giggle...

>> No.2736224

>>2736220

> I am Frederika Bernkastel, I am also Furude Rika. Disregard what I said before. That was a lie.

>> No.2736225

>>2735930

I wouldnt doubt this, because Beato stops as she's about to say that he's the only one in red.

>> No.2736238
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2736238

>>>Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl.

didn't you see Rika beat Satoko with a chair?

also this.

>> No.2736253

Bernkastel is the accumulation of memories from all the Rikas that have died over the past century that have become self-aware, as she says at the start of Minagoroshi-hen. Presumably Bernkastel was created when the amount of Rika's memories that Hanyuu deposited in the dimension with the fragments reached a critical mass. The scenario for a death of Rika's mind described by Bernkastel is probably what would happen if that accumulation of memories became too great to be housed in a human being.

What presumably happens when "Rika" arrives in a new world is that a copy of Bernkastel's memories replaces the existing Rika's memories (Rika can't recall anything from before she was playing her friends in Minagoroshi-hen or from before she was hit with a ball in Saikoroshi-hen). We can't be sure that she retains all of Bernkastel's memories, since in Saikoroshi-hen Hanyuu explains to Rika that the worlds appear as fragments in the realm of the gods and how they traveled between worlds by joining these fragments, which Bernkastel must have already known since she can manipulate them (but Hanyuu could be reiterating something Rika knew). Also, Bernkastel is aware of what happened in Minagoroshi-hen at the start of Matsuribayashi-hen, but the Rika in the world of Matsuribayashi-hen lacks that information (but that may be simply be an anomaly due to Hanyuu's powers failing).

>> No.2736255

However, the fact that Rika is aware that a version of herself exists in a higher dimension, that she says she isn't Rika when she's speaking to Rena in Tsumihoboroshi-hen (Bernkastel feels that way to an extent) and that she gives herself the name Bernkastel when inhabiting Rika's body in Saikoroshi-hen to distinguish herself from the original Rika indicates that the Rikas of the various worlds possess at least some of Bernkastel's memories. Conversely, in Minagoroshi-hen Bernkastel says that she only has the memories that Rika obtained from the various worlds, that she was born in the human world and refers to herself as Rika at one point. Based on that, as well as all the things she says in the tea parties in Umineko which make it clear she was born from the events in Higurashi, we can assume that Bernkastel views herself as an being that's a continuation of Rika rather than a completely separate entity, which supports a close connection between them.

When Rika dies, Hanyuu sends the memories from that world to join the accumulation of memories in that higher dimension and thus become part of Bernkastel. This would explain why Bernkastel retains the name that "Rika" came up with in Saikoroshi-hen and why the Rika in the world at the end of Saikoroshi-hen says that the version of her in the higher dimension no longer matters, since her memories won't be joining it when she dies.

So in conclusion, a copy of Bernkastel's memories and personality replace Rika's mind and then the experiences of that copy merge with Bernkastel when the Rika of that world dies. Bernkastel neither created Rika nor is she really a separate entity (since 'Rika' is simply Bernkastel's mind in a human body) until they diverge at the end of Saikoroshi-hen.

>> No.2736448

>>2736238

The bitch was putting on an act ;_;

>> No.2736470

Eh, when the hell did the patch come out?

>> No.2736476

>>2736238
Rika is also acting when she pretend to be cute.

>> No.2736817

Is the ending song in the BGM folder? What about the song that plays during Beatrice's phone call?

>> No.2736823

>>2736817
>Is Background Music in the Background Music folder?

>> No.2736874

>>2736823
>Where in the BGM folder is the ending song
>name

>> No.2736884

i got the music from
http://joesca.livejournal.com/11203.html

>> No.2736895

>>2736817
The phone call song is "happy_maria_uta_m"
As for the ending song, do you mean the one from the ???? party? That's "rougoku"

>> No.2736906

>>2736895

Thanks. Phone call song is spot on. And by ending song I meant the one in the normal tea party. It has really nice vocals

>> No.2736911

>>2736906
That's "discode1c", then

>> No.2736921

>>2736906
Discode

>> No.2736935

>>2736921
>>2736911

thank you thank you

>> No.2737349

>>2735463
that might be true, but why does it coincide with
2nd and 8th twilight in ep2 (or well, the time when it's shown to the survivors in game)?

>> No.2738076

I just reached the tsurupetan part of episode 2.
how long into episode 2 am I?

>> No.2738076,1 [INTERNAL] 

Just thought I'd toss this out there, its not going to be the real answer but: beatrice may just be saying that "furniture" doesn't count as people. She doesn't include herself or the stakes of purgatory or any of that in the count of 18. Hell, if Battler were smart he'd just say something along the lines of "beatrice the witch, is not amoung the 18 people on the island. Therefore she is not the killer"

>> No.2738076,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>2738076,1
She could say "a witch is inhuman" and that would dissolve.

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