Umineko

Umineko Anonymous Mon Jun 8 09:53:38 2009 No.2731899 [SPOILER]

I CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK/
BEST.
FUCKING.
EPISODE.
GODDAMN I'M GETTING A PANIC ATTACK. SAVE GAMES FUCKING EVERYWHERE. I MANAGED TO FILL IT UP TO PAGE 3 FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I'll say this in red.
>>>/rs/FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 09:54:38 2009 No.2731903 sup /a/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 09:59:38 2009 No.2731929 >>2731899 Definitely one of the best scenes. It's a tie between the end of Episode 2 and this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:03:38 2009 No.2731943 0:30 onwards of "mortal stampede". reminded me of one of the songs from the touhou games. does it ring a bell for anyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:04:38 2009 No.2731945 >SAVE GAMES FUCKING EVERYWHERE Glad to know somebody else did that. I flooded with saves throughout the series of scenes of the second to tenth twilights.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:06:38 2009 No.2731951 >>2731943 It has the same general feel as most Touhou themes, but unless it's something from the UFO demo then I don't hear anything directly similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:08:38 2009 No.2731954 >>2731951 >UFO hey thanks. that's it. the introduction of the 2nd stage's boss theme

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:10:38 2009 No.2731956

>>2731945

Gotta love how witch-hunt split up the translation patches

First half was meh
Second half? RIGHT CLICKING TO THE MENU LIKE THE MOTHERFUCKING FIST OF THE NORTH STAR

I also grinned like an idiot during some of the really badass scenes. Anyone else did that?

particularly at ange summoning the 7 stakes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:14:38 2009 No.2731963 >>2731956 Guilty of grinning during: First twilight. Entirety of chapter 16. Ange summoning the Stakes (after baaawing a bit). DREAMEND DISCHARGER manually

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:17:38 2009 No.2731972 >>2731956 Silly grinning aside (I was probably smirking in every scene that wasn't sad), I laughed like a motherfucker during KRAUSS KOUNTER and BSoD Bunnies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:17:38 2009 No.2731973 >>2731956 >>particularly at ange summoning the 7 stakes But that never happened Because magic doesn't exist And Ange dies in 1998

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:17:38 2009 No.2731974 >>2731956 oh and can't forget the "revolt" scene. that was really unexpected

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:21:38 2009 No.2731991 >>2731973 I know but as long as I believe it really did happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:22:38 2009 No.2731993 >>2731972 Was funny with the whole loser flags and the goat's past

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:23:38 2009 No.2731995 >>2731991 Everybody dropping dead around Ange was due to the escort with a sniper rifle.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:24:38 2009 No.2731996
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It saddens me that there likely won't be another episode that has as much Stake screentime.

It also saddens me that the Stake "Sisters" aren't real.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:27:38 2009 No.2732007 Judging from the discussions this shit is awesome, how much more will it take to be completed ? I don't like reading incomplete stories, so I'm waiting for the translation and story itself to be finished.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:27:38 2009 No.2732008 >>2731993 I thought that was great. But the best part was that his powerlevel ended up OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:28:38 2009 No.2732013 >>2731995 That never happens either Because Ange is dead and her evil aunt is still alive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:29:38 2009 No.2732017 i came when dreamenddischarger started playing and battler was shit serious

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:32:38 2009 No.2732029 >>2732007 Assuming they're 4 more games, maybe around 1 and half years?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:32:38 2009 No.2732032 File: 48 KB, 640x480, goatflag2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732008 VIRGILIA WHAT IS HIS POWER LEVEL?! And she was reduced to comic relief in this episode

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:32:38 2009 No.2732034 >>2732007 1 and a half years but Umineko is better when it's not completed because you get speculation time that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:33:38 2009 No.2732035 >>2732029 I forgot to add in translation time so maybe 2 years.

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 10:35:38 2009 No.2732049 File: 96 KB, 530x431, lambdaxbern5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are they so beautifully gay for each other, /jp/? >>2732032 She was extremely cute that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:35:38 2009 No.2732053 >so I'm waiting for the story to be finished. You're doing it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:36:38 2009 No.2732054 >>2732032 I'll stand by that EVERYONE is comedic relief in this episode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:36:38 2009 No.2732056 "When They Cry" series are made for the user's discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:37:38 2009 No.2732058 File: 33 KB, 640x480, goatflag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732049 I like how she implied that she was rooting for Battler even though she turned all "scary" later on

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:38:38 2009 No.2732064 >>2732032 When she opened both her eyes I completely freaked the fuck out. But then it was a comedy scene so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:38:38 2009 No.2732066 ryukishi07 really outdone himself with umineko. higurashi was okay but this had a motherfucking ton of lead ins. finding out the significance behind "uu-uu". the way he introduced the "bing-bong" and then hearing it at a critical moment later on

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:41:38 2009 No.2732079 I heard how George was going to be GAR in this but it really exceeded my expectations BY OVER 9000 Seriously. Being able to hit the enemy but holding back on purpose? HOW HIGH IS YOUR POWER LEVEL GEORGE?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:42:38 2009 No.2732086 >>2732079 o hai. looks like I'm gonna be the villian in this episode. fuhahahahahahaha. before that though Gaap-san.... YOU WILL BE THE FIRST I KILL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:42:38 2009 No.2732088 >>2732079 As high as he can kick, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:43:38 2009 No.2732091 >>2732086 That was so utterly badass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:43:38 2009 No.2732092 File: 65 KB, 639x479, TRUE BROFIST.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732066 Oh god, I think I nearly screamed when the loser flag sound popped up during the Gaap fight. Also, CUZFIST

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 10:44:38 2009 No.2732097 >>2732066 The uu-uu being the first magic made me cry rivers and hate Rosa even more, can she get any worse?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:45:38 2009 No.2732098 >>2732092 Yeah... that bell right then sounded like the same sound you hear when you get hit with a torque bow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:49:38 2009 No.2732112 >>2732097 Don't hate Rosa. Hate THE HATEFUL BLACK WITCH OF HATRED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:50:38 2009 No.2732116 >>2732112 eva_beato.jpg u mad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:51:01 2009 No.2732118 File: 55 KB, 640x480, george.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:51:38 2009 No.2732120 >>2731899 shut up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:52:38 2009 No.2732121 File: 55 KB, 640x480, george.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:53:38 2009 No.2732125 >>2732120 you're pitiful :3

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:54:38 2009 No.2732130 >>2732097 The Rosa which was tortured by the witch was not the real bitch. She was MARIA's delusion about what the evil witch possessing her mother could be like. Too one-sidedly evil. At least this is my theory.

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Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:01:38 2009 No.2732159

>>2732130
Yeah, that's what I think too. What made me hate her was the real rosa completely disregarding the meaning that moaning sound had to Maria. I mean of course there's no way she would know Maria considered it magic to always be friends with her, but I don't know, that's yet another failure as a mother.
>>2732112
But...Witches don't exist...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:04:38 2009 No.2732169 >>2732159 >uu-- is a magic spell! uu-- >MAGIC DOESN'T EXIST How do you live?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:04:38 2009 No.2732170 File: 376 KB, 900x600, 1240328534821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh god I want to see every character with a vagina wear Gaap's costume.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:04:38 2009 No.2732172

>>2732007
It not being completed is a good thing. You can make your own theories and discuss theories with others. It's because nobody knows the true answers so we can only take what information we have and speculate. Once it's finished, you can't do that. If you make a theory that's incorrect, someone will immediately correct you and tell the answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:06:38 2009 No.2732175 >>2732170 I wouldn't mind seeing it on some of the ones with penises, really. Kanon, Sakutaro, Battler, and Ronove come to mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:08:38 2009 No.2732185 >>2732170 >>2732175 Gaapsmith.jpg

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:10:38 2009 No.2732192 >>2732169 I'm not saying it's magic, I'm just saying it's important to her. And Rosa won't allow it. >>2732170 ..I'm really curious about how Gaap will be animated. I mean, she...kicks and all... That would be kinda awkward.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:12:38 2009 No.2732202 >>2732185 MY VIRGIN EYES

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:12:38 2009 No.2732203 >>2732192 >And Rosa won't allow it. Rosa doesn't think it means anything. Maria has never said what it means. I'd get annoyed at a kid who babbles every fifth word too.

Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:19:38 2009 No.2732220

>>2732203
Yeah, I understand I guess, but that doesn't really help her after the scene with Sakutaro and the guy at the hotel after that...
>>2732175
>Kanon, Sakutaro
Well, I wouldn't really mind.
>Battler, and Ronove
Oh god, take that out of my mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:21:38 2009 No.2732225 File: 45 KB, 641x482, shannon_george_casual.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >insert copypasta here >pic related its me and my bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:23:38 2009 No.2732229 >>2732225 TOMITAKE FLASH

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:25:38 2009 No.2732234 File: 66 KB, 640x480, beatoslut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just playing through it right now. A couple of questions. 1. Why is Beato such a slut? and 2. When did Virgilia become more incompetent than Team Rocket?!?!?!

>>	insanezero !VUNofZD8jM Mon Jun 8 11:25:38 2009 No.2732235 File: 73 KB, 271x201, 1244449116200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732185 >>2732175

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 11:25:38 2009 No.2732237 >>2732170 What's Rosa's problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:27:38 2009 No.2732239 >>2732225 Is Shannon supposed to be plump maid moe~ or is that a case of QUALITY?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:27:38 2009 No.2732240 File: 207 KB, 650x581, 1b4857835045ffd72f5e1769beae8a9a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ronove is fine just the way he is. Though I wonder how he'd react if someone shave off his mustache while he was asleep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:29:38 2009 No.2732242 >>2732237 I think she's yelling about how she's charging gold for looking or something.

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:29:38 2009 No.2732243 File: 100 KB, 600x573, beatoface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732234 "Yeah Battler, throw me against the wall, violate me and make me remember the joy of being dominated".

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:30:38 2009 No.2732244

>>2732192

They'll either

A: Skip making certain frames

B: Cleverly censor the exposed parts

C: Edit her costume

B Sounds the most likely. Since her the costume looks to be pretty well attatched to her breasts, and her skirt is long enough to cover the naughty bits. Sort of like a China dress.

I must say i'm surprised Battler didnt ogle her more. I found myself unable to find an appropriate place to set my eyes. Looking at those drills is like looking at a hurricane so I find myself usually focusing on her breasts. Actually,when I recall Gaap,all I remember IS a pair of breasts...! I'm not sure if I should call that a good design or....Whatever else you can call it!

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 11:35:38 2009 No.2732252 File: 327 KB, 635x477, clothes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732244 From the itrollu collection.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:36:38 2009 No.2732254 File: 28 KB, 221x483, GAAAAAAAAAp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732244 agreed, though I didn't even notice that she was wearing a double sided apron with nothing under it unitl I unlocked the full ep 4 tips after the ???? tea party.

>>	insanezero !VUNofZD8jM Mon Jun 8 11:36:38 2009 No.2732255 >>2732244 When I see Gaap, I see a pair of boobs attached to a yellow mop. It also irked me to see that her arms never moved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:39:38 2009 No.2732263 >>2732244 they're gonna edit it. even shannon's edited and it just shows her thigh.

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:40:38 2009 No.2732266 >>2732244 >Actually,when I recall Gaap,all I remember IS a pair of breasts Now that I think of it, me too. Thanks, you made me feel kinda unconfortable.

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 11:42:38 2009 No.2732276 >>2732266 Dunno her face and that outrageous hairstyle with the small top hat attracts my attention a lot more. If I wanted to stare at Umineko boobs I'd read the Episode 1 manga for Natsuhi and Eva.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:45:38 2009 No.2732286 >Gaap = breasts Oh thank god I wasn't the only one not looking at her face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:45:38 2009 No.2732287 File: 99 KB, 550x750, 090514pict05.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks about the same to me...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:45:38 2009 No.2732289 >>2732244 I hope they don't do some stupid shit like having her wear a school swimsuit under it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:47:38 2009 No.2732297 I don't think anyone recall Gaap for anything other than delicious sideboobs and Yukari de ja vu.

Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 11:51:38 2009 No.2732307

>>2732276
I think that caught my attention more because I couldn't stop thinking about how unconfortable it must be to wear that. I imagine cosplays and stuff, too. And yet I can't take my eyes off it. I think the only time I paid any attention to her face was when she did that creepy smile on the bing-bong part, when she tricked George and Jessica.
>>2732289
I really, REALLY can't imagine that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:53:38 2009 No.2732311 Needs more porn tbh.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 8 11:55:38 2009 No.2732321 >>2732311 Yes. It needs more Virgillia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:58:38 2009 No.2732334 File: 67 KB, 221x483, gaap swimsuit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732307 let me help

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 11:59:38 2009 No.2732337 What was the music track with MICROSOFT SAM talking in the background? that really irritated the hell out of me.

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 12:00:38 2009 No.2732341 File: 283 KB, 638x480, only if he's hot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732334 Looks ruined man also Gaap's standards.

>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 12:00:38 2009 No.2732342 >>2732334 Jesus christ, that looks awf-- Hey, it wouldn't be that bad if it was red...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:02:38 2009 No.2732355 Who is Gaap anyway? Ronove let slip that Genji was the vessel for him, and the Virgilia/Kumasawa connection is obvious, but what about Gaap? Who does she tie up to?

>>	insanezero !VUNofZD8jM Mon Jun 8 12:03:38 2009 No.2732357 >>2732337 system0?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:03:38 2009 No.2732364 >>2732337 Agreed. Fuck you, Sam. >>2732357 No, that was the Star Trek quotes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:04:38 2009 No.2732370 >>2732355 I have to sayyyyyy... Natsuhi. Just cause.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:05:38 2009 No.2732373 Yukari can rape Gaap, discuss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:05:38 2009 No.2732379 >>2732355 Kinzo's wife? Maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:07:38 2009 No.2732384 >>2732379 but Virgilia is Kinzo's wife

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:08:38 2009 No.2732388 >>2732364 Endless Nine...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:08:38 2009 No.2732389 >>2732384 No, she's Kumasawa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:27:38 2009 No.2732483 >>2732355 Why do you believe that Gaap's vessel is human?

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 12:33:38 2009 No.2732515 Gaap's vessel might the clothes that Rosa designs fo her company. As you all now the company is not doing good and what Gaap is wearing might the proof of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:35:38 2009 No.2732531 >>2732515 Well, at least someone is wearing her clothing. Don't think that Rosa would like to know that her clothing is in high demand in Hell, though.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 8 12:36:38 2009 No.2732536 >>2732531 Depends on how much in royalties and trips to Hokkaido she got out of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:36:38 2009 No.2732538 I bet $5 that Pendragon-sama looks like Saber.

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 12:37:38 2009 No.2732544 >>2732531 Clothes that are so bad they can go to Hell?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:40:38 2009 No.2732558 >>2732515 Well, Rosa making horrible clothes would explain Maria's idiotic crown thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:44:38 2009 No.2732573 >>2732538 Pendragon's a guy with a purple hand/claw thing He's going to show up in Ep 5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:47:38 2009 No.2732581 >>2732234 Beato turns into slut when she's drunk

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Jun 8 12:48:38 2009 No.2732586 >>2732581 >Beato turns into slut when she's drunk Just like a normal girl you mean?

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:49:38 2009 No.2732589

Yes, Maria and Ange showed us that imaginary characters are created by someone, from their own vessel.
So, who created imaginary characters in Rokkenjima during October 4-5? And what does "they overwrite the truth" mean?
Anti-fantasy have to remove fantasy from their explanations about it.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:53:38 2009 No.2732606 >>2732586 Well, men fuck anything that walks even without drinking alcohol.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:55:38 2009 No.2732612 >>2732606 >Well, foreign men named Rance fuck anything that walks even without drinking alcohol.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:59:31 2009 No.2732638 MOAR CIRNO

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:04:31 2009 No.2732665 I don't get why this is being bombed. Guess you're just shitting up good threads to troll?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:09:31 2009 No.2732690 >>2732665 Your reasoning only makes his bot harder

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:11:31 2009 No.2732697 EPIC GAR

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:17:31 2009 No.2732722 >>2732665 Probably a KS dev that can't handle a superior VN.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:25:38 2009 No.2732744 So how about that Umineko, guys?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:28:38 2009 No.2732754 >>2732744 Umineko? What's that? All I see here is Cirno.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:32:20 2009 No.2732770 baka baka lol

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>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 13:35:38 2009 No.2732780 >>2732754 Now you don't see Cirno.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:36:38 2009 No.2732784 >>2732780 Oh, cool, awesome. So uh. Witches. Yeah. Not existing and stuff.

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>>	Miang !F6TSKzw166 Mon Jun 8 13:38:38 2009 No.2732789 >>2732784 Yeah, and Gapgap's obscenity.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:44:11 2009 No.2732813 >>2732801 Rocko's Modern Life? In my Touhou?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:49:14 2009 No.2732836 >>2732801 i like where this is heading

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:09:38 2009 No.2732895 >>2732873 It felt like I was playing Planetarian, at that point. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:10:38 2009 No.2732899 >>2732895 I'm sorry, when I hear Onii-chan I think of those poor goats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:12:38 2009 No.2732901 Am I the only one who thought the "motherfucking powerlevels and shit" scene was the dumbest part of the episode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:14:38 2009 No.2732904 >>2732901 Hilariously dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:14:38 2009 No.2732905 >>2732901 Probably

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:15:38 2009 No.2732906 >>2732901 Krauss can kill zombie goatses discuss

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:15:38 2009 No.2732907 File: 287 KB, 641x478, ScreenShot025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732899 Can't wait to see goats x Virgilia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:15:38 2009 No.2732908 File: 43 KB, 646x504, loser flags.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2732901 it was suposed to be humorous... but the only part that I found funny was pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:19:38 2009 No.2732914 Virgilia and Goat-kun represented Kumasawa and Gohda as getting forcefully hanged by Krauss, then shot in the head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:26:38 2009 No.2732932 Kyrie is the mastermind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:28:38 2009 No.2732937 >>2732932 Sounds reliable, she was using the phone all the time

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:32:38 2009 No.2732944

>>2732932
I still really like this theory, with her motive being that Battler is her real son and the sin of him leaving being the cause. Though what I read last night about a 3rd Beatrice who's real name is Maria seems more likely. I mean with Maria's name being in the epitaph and Kinzo making a fuss over Maria's naming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:32:38 2009 No.2732945 By the way, will the next game include episodes 1-4, or is it the same deal as with Higurashi?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:33:38 2009 No.2732949 >>2732945 New game. Umineko no naku koro ni Ura. No epi 1-4, just Epi 5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:34:38 2009 No.2732951 >>>2732949 >Ura Is that confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:36:38 2009 No.2732954 >>2732951 It was on Ryuukishi diary or something like that.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 8 14:36:38 2009 No.2732957

Watch Battler turn out to be Kinzo's grandson by the real Beatrice's descendant. Then we'll find out that Beato of the 1986 is also his sister. Rudolph found Battler to replace the real one. Since he actually has Kinzo's blood, there would be direct lineage from Kinzo, regardless of whether Rudolph was actually the father.

Or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:08:38 2009 No.2733056 can't wait to rage how they will fuck up the anime adaptation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:22:38 2009 No.2733103 >Miang !F6TSKzw166 back to /a/ with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:24:38 2009 No.2733108 >>2732957 What I'm curious about is what happened to Battler Mk1? How is Mk2 supposed to help Rudolf take over the family when both Jessica and George outrank him? Who exactly is Asumu anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:14:38 2009 No.2734864 >>2732899 "I'm sorry little sister... Onii-chan won't be able to make it back"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:16:38 2009 No.2734872 >>2732337 if you meant the one played during the last portion of the main game, エンドレスナイン（リズム付き）

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:20:38 2009 No.2734878 >>2734872 did dai compose this? or was it the other guy who did rahu goldenslaughterer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:20:38 2009 No.2734879 >>2733108 Mk 1 is dead

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:28:38 2009 No.2734899

>>2731995
I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT REALIZE/THINK OF THAT WHEN I FIRST READ IT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME MAGIC DOESNT EXIST
>>2732901
I guess most people like or at least don't mind those parts, but I find almost all of the "look here is some magic that is happening" to be overdone, and the way that the human characters always act to be sort of melodramatic. With the exceptions of Kyrie and Rudolf in episode 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:31:38 2009 No.2734904 >>2734878 says its dai in the music box.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:33:38 2009 No.2734908 Maria its Gaap vessel since she asked Beatrice to teach her magic that'll help her get revenge and Beatrice mentioned something about teaching her Abyss magic or sth...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:37:38 2009 No.2734919 >>2734899 it may be over the top but it made me like the characters more so it's okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:42:38 2009 No.2734930 This episode certainly is the peak of the series so far. Will there even be any more middle-aged people kicking ass in the "answer arcs"? ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:43:38 2009 No.2734932 If Krauss was my dad, things would be different around here

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:46:38 2009 No.2734941
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AND HERE I FUCKING WAS TELLING MYSELF "OK, WELL THE NEXT GAME MIGHT BE BETTER BUT NO TEA PARTY COULD EVER TOP COWTIT SLICING SAMMICH MAKING BEATRICE HEAD SLAMMING BATTLER"

I WAS FUCKING WRONG WASN'T I?

WARNING: THE PICTURE'S RESOLUTION WAS TOO LARGE FOR 4CHAN. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S LIKE HAVING A PENIS TOO BIG FOR A VAGINA. IT WON'T FIT BUT IT'S STILL AWESOME.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8821/thisisawesomeasshit.jpg

YOU JUST GOTTA FIND A BIGGER VAGINA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:58:38 2009 No.2734973 About how Battler was able to say Ange was his sister in red. Is there a possibility that he's Kyrie's son who was thought to have been a miscarriage?

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:03:38 2009 No.2734987

About the "uuuu" being magic, especially "get along with Mama" magic, I thought it was pretty interesting considering the delicious irony it creates in the whole story up until then.

It also made me very happy because I HATE that stupid noise and Maria in general, and hate the alleged magic which obviously doesn't exist anyways, so it's a nice way to combine them for convenient hating!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:04:38 2009 No.2734990 >>2734973 yes

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Tue Jun 9 00:04:38 2009 No.2734991 >>2734987 Yeah? Well, I hate you, so there!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:08:38 2009 No.2735008 >>2734973 that was what I was thinking as well. also did you notice that battler called kyrie mom for the first time in ep 4? doesn't really mean hes saying that kyrie is his actual mother but I thought it was interesting none the less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:10:38 2009 No.2735013 >>2734987 Sup Rosa.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:16:38 2009 No.2735037

>>2735008
Not only is Kyrie (probably) Battler's actual mother, but there's probably a second Battler

Recall that these were said in red:
"I am Ushiromiya Battler"
"Ushiromiya Battler is Asumu's son"
"I am Ushiromiya Asumu's son"

As far as I can see, only by accepting a second Battler's (whether he's currently alive or dead is questionable) existence at some point in time can we account for these statements.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:22:38 2009 No.2735051

>>2735037
It also sort of fits if you say: "Ushiromiya Battler is the name that would have been given to Asumu's son if she had not miscarried"

Works there too.

Yes, the second son theory is still a possibility, but I think with the fact that a miscarriage probably occurred, this one is more likely.

That being said, I'm pretty sure there can't really be much further debate in the manner because there's just not enough evidence to support either theory. Battler's sin could be so much as "He forgot to give Kinzo his medicine and Kinzo died which made Krauss start getting really fucking nervous so he had to make it seem like Kinzo was killed alongside his siblings"

Though that's just a dumb idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:43:38 2009 No.2735100 File: 36 KB, 646x506, 07151129.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHO WROTE THIS ON THE DOOR AT THE END OF EPISODE 3 :F

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:45:38 2009 No.2735108 >>2735100 "Beatrice", duh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:49:38 2009 No.2735124 >>2735108 Your toxin is weak, bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:53:38 2009 No.2735133 >>2735100 more to the point why the fuck would they write the pin number for the safety deposit box?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:55:38 2009 No.2735141 >>2735133 It's not the pin number to the safety deposit box. It's a very important number known at least by the owner, and he didn't want to have to remember a second series of 8 important numbers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:55:38 2009 No.2735146 >>2735037 I took those statements to mean that Asumu was Battler's mother in the sense that she raised him. However, a much more literal statement like "Battler was born of Asumu" is false because she's not his birth mother.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:58:38 2009 No.2735161

>>2735133

Exactly, the culprit had already set in motion the money scheme, so that would indicate that someone still alive was the original planner of the event (or that Beatrice did it, but that's boring). Did that mean solving the riddle and killing everyone to keep the gold was full of shit and that Eva had planned all of it in advance, in which case you've got to wonder how the hell she had access to that kind of money, etc etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:03:38 2009 No.2735187 >>2735124 That is what you think. Rather, I mean it is the 17th human, "Beatrice", whom Battler witnessed in the final hour of October 4th!

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:09:38 2009 No.2735219

>>2735037
That wasn't said in red. Also, there was no mention of gender. The translation reflected this:
Ushiromiya Battler was born from Ushiromiya Asumu

But Battler wasn't able to say this one:
I was born from Ushiromiya Asumu

Which suggests the other Battler is not necessarily a male. Although it was just there for vagueness.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:30:38 2009 No.2735272

>>2735219

About Battler not being able to say the "I" statement. He said it as meta Battler, right? And in the same way that MARIA isn't Ushiromiya Maria and ANGE not being the same as Ushiromiya Ange, doesn't that mean that meta Battler wasn't able to say it because the one who was born from Asumu was Ushiromiya Battler?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:32:38 2009 No.2735280 >>2732954 Ryuukishi hasn't announced anything. Someone told a lie the title of answer arcs are "Umineko Ura" yesterday, and you stupid believe it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:54:38 2009 No.2735364 Battler is really Kinzo from the past, transported into the future.

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Tue Jun 9 01:57:38 2009 No.2735370 >>2735364 But "Battler is Kinzo's grandson," or something similar, was stated in red. Pime taradox?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:04:38 2009 No.2735395 >>2735370 No, it was never stated in red. Ange stated in blue that both "Battler isn't Asumu's son" and "my opponent is Kinzo's grandson" don't conflict each other at all, so long he is Rudolf's son, which wasn't denied in red.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:07:38 2009 No.2735408

>>2735272
That doesn't work. Battler and meta battler are the same. The proof is that Beato could say in red it is his sin in red (Your sin) despite it was the suit beatrice that said that to game Battler.

Furthermore, Ange could call him "onii chan" in red, while meta battler could call her his sister. If both were considered different due of being "meta" version of their world self, it wouldn't work.

Therefore, game battler = Meta battler, just their context, knowledge etc are very different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:23:38 2009 No.2735448 I wonder how impressive the power levels of the pieces will end up by the end of the series. There seems to be a steady increase in the general ability to resist with each volume.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:28:38 2009 No.2735463

If we assume that 0715 is meant to signify Battler's birthday and isnt just a coincidence, I'm gonna guess that 1129 is the day that Battler committed his 'sin'. So the person who set up all that money wasn't Kinzo. Though it may have been done with his help. The letters that had been sent to the victims families weren't going to arrive for some time, so only the killer, or orchestrator, could have done it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:31:38 2009 No.2735473 >>2731899 出て行け！基地外！

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:35:38 2009 No.2735485

The statement that Battler was not born from Asumu, but she is Battler's mother, is probably not veiled semantics, its a literal statement. Maybe Asumu was the one to miscarry. Or maybe her son died very young (November 29th perhaps...?). If Kyrie's baby did in fact survive, might Kinzo and the Ushiromiya group not have put pressure on her family to turn over her child?
The Sumadera are having some tough times, right? Kinzo might have been able to lean on them some.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:48:38 2009 No.2735527

>>2735485

How much truth was there exactly to Kyrie's rant to Leviathan? If you assume Battler is Kyrie's son, then that would make her a liar, or rather just taking an extremely odd viewpoint on Asumu's miscarriage. And if she wasn't lying about her and Rudolf being in love, then why exactly would Rudolph marry Asumu even with her miscarriage, given that that was the supposed reason for the marriage to begin with. Was he pressured by Kinzo for some reason (probably pertaining to Asumu's family)? Or really, I suppose he might've just married her when she got pregnant, which happened to be before Kyrie did.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:08:38 2009 No.2735577

>>2735527
It's a 'magical' scene, so one should take the dialogue with a grain of salt. If it was Eva or Hideyoshi she was confronting, I doubt anything of the sort was said at all. Taking it at face value though, I suppose its possible she doesn't even know that her child survived. Though Ange seemed to know what was going on with that, so I doubt it.

In the end, it was neither confirmed nor denied that Battler was Rudolph's son, or Kinzo's grandson. We can interpret this in a number of ways. Beato's assertion that Battler was replaced in the last 6 years was BS, since he knew the family too familiarly and remembered things about his family from before.

Anyway, Ange said in red that he was her brother, and I think that the red, though it may be used out of context and to disguise the truth, still has to be taken literally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:16:38 2009 No.2735601 Was the STORM ever said in red? Maybe there is like a sniper on a fuckin' boat about a thousand meters away and has a modified gun to shoot stakes or it's a cross bow and the stakes are merely the bolts? Anychances nah didn't think so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:17:38 2009 No.2735605 >>2735100 Wasn't that also in episode 1?

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:19:38 2009 No.2735611

Did anyone else notice this really weird thing that Beatrice said in red? I remember it starting with "My" and it was quite clearly before Battler learned how to use the Red himself. I'd go take a screen shot of it myself but dammit that was so far into the game and I only made one single save which was near the end.

"My family"....Erhhh,I completely forget. It was such an odd thing to say in red too.

>>	Anonymous of Colombia !/MTU7LNU7s Tue Jun 9 04:17:38 2009 No.2735777 >>2734973 No, it simply means that He is Rudolf's son, even if he is not Asumu's son, thus he's still Ange's brother since they have the same father.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 04:51:38 2009 No.2735919 Hey guys, what did Ange, Mammon, and Sakutarou saw in the seaman's house? I'm guessing black witch?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 04:55:38 2009 No.2735930 >>2735919 we don't know but some have guessed it was another Sakutarou doll and that rosa lied about the original being hand made.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 05:04:38 2009 No.2735955

>>2735930

Probably this. It'd explain why Ange was able to revive Sakutaro when Beatrice outright said she couldnt. And it'd also add fuel to the fire onto the goal of destroying Beatrices and Maria's little happy place. After all,Ange was still mulling over how to revive Sakutaro in Maria's eyes. That was a pretty perfect and flawless way. As to how the sailor got it though.......That's anyone's guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 05:28:38 2009 No.2736047 >>2735955 >how the sailor got it Here's another theory. Maria gave the captain the torn up sakutaro for god knows what and he's been putting it in the display case for a while. and maybe jizzing all over it occasionally ...

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:16:38 2009 No.2736179

Just finished the ??? tea party.

You know how throughout the game Kinzo had been saying that the greater the odds the more powerful the magic that will occur will become? And how Ange was able to summon the 7 stakes in front of humans even though it didn't happen?

With both witches proclaiming that Beatrice have a 0 percent chance of winning. Doesn't that mean that she will be able to perform the greatest magic and end up winning? Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:19:38 2009 No.2736189 >>2736179 You know there's no solid proof that Bern is the Frederica of Higurashi. The only evidence you have to go by is what she says and that wasn't in red.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:19:38 2009 No.2736190 >>2736179 >Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl. She is. Bernkastel is not. After all, she and Furude Rika are not the same. Shame on you if you thought so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:27:38 2009 No.2736209 >>2736189 yeah everything that's not in red is a lie derp.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:27:38 2009 No.2736212

>>2736189

That made sense. But Bernkastel was created when Rika named the "Rika who travelled across worlds" after a wine bottle, right? So does that mean that the Bernkastel in Higurashi is probably still living out her life with her friends? Or did it take a consciousness of its own and is perhaps somewhere else?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:30:38 2009 No.2736214 it's the same fucking bitch. check it out nigs: Rika Furude Furude Rika FurudeRika Fruderika Frederika and bernkastel is a real wine. who likes wine? furude rika.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:31:38 2009 No.2736217 MUST-NOT-READ-BEFORE-FINISHING-EPISODE

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:34:38 2009 No.2736220

>>2736214
>I am who I am; Frederica Bernkastel.
>Furude Rika and Frederica are different. Shame on you if you thought so.
>My age? I've gotten bored with it, so I've quit counting.
>
>Huh? Are you speculating that the real identity of the Oyashiro-sama is me?
>Giggle giggle. You are so insolent.
>The Oyashiro-sama is the Oyashiro-sama. You want me to introduce it to you? It's rather shy.
>It gets frightened easily so don't scare it, okay? However, it seems that you are the one that's scared.
>
>Giggle giggle giggle...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:38:38 2009 No.2736224 >>2736220 > I am Frederika Bernkastel, I am also Furude Rika. Disregard what I said before. That was a lie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:38:38 2009 No.2736225 >>2735930 I wouldnt doubt this, because Beato stops as she's about to say that he's the only one in red.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 06:43:38 2009 No.2736238 File: 213 KB, 646x512, mii, nipa~.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>>Also, what the hell. I thought Rika was a good little girl. didn't you see Rika beat Satoko with a chair? also this.

None !Nipaa0mi0. Tue Jun 9 06:48:38 2009 No.2736253

Bernkastel is the accumulation of memories from all the Rikas that have died over the past century that have become self-aware, as she says at the start of Minagoroshi-hen. Presumably Bernkastel was created when the amount of Rika's memories that Hanyuu deposited in the dimension with the fragments reached a critical mass. The scenario for a death of Rika's mind described by Bernkastel is probably what would happen if that accumulation of memories became too great to be housed in a human being.

What presumably happens when "Rika" arrives in a new world is that a copy of Bernkastel's memories replaces the existing Rika's memories (Rika can't recall anything from before she was playing her friends in Minagoroshi-hen or from before she was hit with a ball in Saikoroshi-hen). We can't be sure that she retains all of Bernkastel's memories, since in Saikoroshi-hen Hanyuu explains to Rika that the worlds appear as fragments in the realm of the gods and how they traveled between worlds by joining these fragments, which Bernkastel must have already known since she can manipulate them (but Hanyuu could be reiterating something Rika knew). Also, Bernkastel is aware of what happened in Minagoroshi-hen at the start of Matsuribayashi-hen, but the Rika in the world of Matsuribayashi-hen lacks that information (but that may be simply be an anomaly due to Hanyuu's powers failing).

None !Nipaa0mi0. Tue Jun 9 06:49:38 2009 No.2736255

However, the fact that Rika is aware that a version of herself exists in a higher dimension, that she says she isn't Rika when she's speaking to Rena in Tsumihoboroshi-hen (Bernkastel feels that way to an extent) and that she gives herself the name Bernkastel when inhabiting Rika's body in Saikoroshi-hen to distinguish herself from the original Rika indicates that the Rikas of the various worlds possess at least some of Bernkastel's memories. Conversely, in Minagoroshi-hen Bernkastel says that she only has the memories that Rika obtained from the various worlds, that she was born in the human world and refers to herself as Rika at one point. Based on that, as well as all the things she says in the tea parties in Umineko which make it clear she was born from the events in Higurashi, we can assume that Bernkastel views herself as an being that's a continuation of Rika rather than a completely separate entity, which supports a close connection between them.

When Rika dies, Hanyuu sends the memories from that world to join the accumulation of memories in that higher dimension and thus become part of Bernkastel. This would explain why Bernkastel retains the name that "Rika" came up with in Saikoroshi-hen and why the Rika in the world at the end of Saikoroshi-hen says that the version of her in the higher dimension no longer matters, since her memories won't be joining it when she dies.

So in conclusion, a copy of Bernkastel's memories and personality replace Rika's mind and then the experiences of that copy merge with Bernkastel when the Rika of that world dies. Bernkastel neither created Rika nor is she really a separate entity (since 'Rika' is simply Bernkastel's mind in a human body) until they diverge at the end of Saikoroshi-hen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 08:18:38 2009 No.2736448 >>2736238 The bitch was putting on an act ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 08:28:38 2009 No.2736470 Eh, when the hell did the patch come out?

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Tue Jun 9 08:31:38 2009 No.2736476 >>2736238 Rika is also acting when she pretend to be cute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:10:38 2009 No.2736817 Is the ending song in the BGM folder? What about the song that plays during Beatrice's phone call?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:12:38 2009 No.2736823 >>2736817 >Is Background Music in the Background Music folder?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:22:38 2009 No.2736874 >>2736823 >Where in the BGM folder is the ending song >name

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:26:38 2009 No.2736884 i got the music from http://joesca.livejournal.com/11203.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:30:38 2009 No.2736895 >>2736817 The phone call song is "happy_maria_uta_m" As for the ending song, do you mean the one from the ???? party? That's "rougoku"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:35:38 2009 No.2736906 >>2736895 Thanks. Phone call song is spot on. And by ending song I meant the one in the normal tea party. It has really nice vocals

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:38:38 2009 No.2736911 >>2736906 That's "discode1c", then

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:40:38 2009 No.2736921 >>2736906 Discode

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:44:38 2009 No.2736935 >>2736921 >>2736911 thank you thank you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:36:38 2009 No.2737349 >>2735463 that might be true, but why does it coincide with 2nd and 8th twilight in ep2 (or well, the time when it's shown to the survivors in game)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 16:21:38 2009 No.2738076 I just reached the tsurupetan part of episode 2. how long into episode 2 am I?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:28:25 2009 No.2738076,1 [INTERNAL]

Just thought I'd toss this out there, its not going to be the real answer but: beatrice may just be saying that "furniture" doesn't count as people. She doesn't include herself or the stakes of purgatory or any of that in the count of 18. Hell, if Battler were smart he'd just say something along the lines of "beatrice the witch, is not amoung the 18 people on the island. Therefore she is not the killer"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:54:57 2009 No.2738076,2 >>2738076,1 She could say "a witch is inhuman" and that would dissolve.

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