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2694001 No.2694001 [Reply] [Original]

Somewhere in the vast expanse of the universe, Gensokyo really exists. The thought that Yukari could someday gap into my room keeps me alive.

>> No.2694021

Err, I'm fairly certain that the imaginary cannot affect the real -- that is, Yukari cannot gap herself into existence.

>> No.2694022

But Gensokyo is just like another dimension, it's here, you just can't reach it.

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>> No.2694038

>But Gensokyo is just like another dimension
It's just ZUNs fantasy.

>> No.2694039

What's the first thing you'd do when she gaps herself into your room? Let's say in the same way as OP's image.

>> No.2694045


Oh god some woman just appeared in my room hanging upside-down from a portal! Quick, slam the computer shut and hide under the bed until she goes away.

>> No.2694048

It's a Devil's proof, it would be easy to prove Gensokyo exists, but you can't prove it doesn't exist in some form somewhere. But we'll know the truth when we turn on the LHC and open up the cat box

>> No.2694052

Well yeah, somewhere in the vast expanse of the universe, you really arent a virgin anymore. Which one is it? ZUNs wankery that you know to be so half assed it couldnt ever exist, or a reality where youd be everything you never were?

>> No.2694054

I'd politely introduce myself and offer her some tea and snacks. I'd ask her why she came here and if there's anything I could do for her. I'd try my best to make happy, because it's all I want.

>> No.2694055
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Yukari-sama exists! Uu-!

>> No.2694056

shed a single tear of concentrated joy

>> No.2694058

I want to believe.

>> No.2694064

half true. even if Gensokyo and the gang don't exist right now, Yukari can shift the border between non-existence and existence, and voila! we can has lots of win

>> No.2694066

Maybe, but there is an infinite amount of dimensions, so by that logic Gensokyo exists somewhere as well as every other universe we could come up with.

>> No.2694067

I'll say: "This world isn't good place for you. Go back to your own."

>> No.2694069

Sounds like the self delusion of otakukin and so on.
It's bound to happen somewhere, right?

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>> No.2694202

why are yukari's boobs defying the laws of gravity unlike her hair?

>> No.2694253

I love Yukari so much.

>> No.2694284

I don't think I want Yukari to just burst into my house.. she like eats humans or something right?

>> No.2694287

Good for you

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>> No.2694303

I would happily let her eat me. In the few moments before I die, just being in her presence would be the greatest joy I could ever hope to feel.

>> No.2694307


Fuck that! I'd pimp slap her! I Aint going without a fight!

>> No.2694308

Because they are firm.

>> No.2694314

If infinite parallel worlds do indeed exist, then it is GUARANTEED that Gensokyo exists because somewhere, somehow a universe came into existence where Gensokyo formed by chance just as our world did. Monkeys on typewriters, Shakespeare etc.

>> No.2694321
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Spoken like a true yuakin fan ;_;

>> No.2694325

Go back to digimon.

>> No.2694328

Who the fuck is Yuakin?

>> No.2694330

Ok, assemble the expeditionary forces.

>> No.2694333


It's mean endless, not all-encompassing.
There are infinity numbers between 1.0 and 2.0. None of them are larger than 3. Is that really so hard to understand?

>> No.2694334

>If infinite parallel worlds do indeed exist
That's a huge fucking if right there.

>> No.2694339

A nickname for Yukari, search yuakin on pixiv.

>> No.2694344

Pff, everyone know the LHC will opne the gateway to Gensokyo in the case that the Higgs Boson proves non-existent

>> No.2694345

I think you don't understand current theories about the universe. Infinite parallel dimensions/universes encompassing all possible permutations of matter and energy.

>> No.2694355
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You learn something new every day...

>> No.2694356

I see no reason to 'understand' something as ludicrious as that.

>> No.2694357

Sounds like you need some proper physics.

>> No.2694362

As a physics major, I call this pure and blatant bullshit.

>> No.2694370

Why?, it has nothing to do with it

>> No.2694374

Look at it this way.

On most browsers, you can bring up your browsing history by pressing Control-H. (No, this is not going to become a discussion of werecows.) On Firefox, this brings up a sidebar that shows up on the left side of the window. If you put your mouse over the edge of the sidebar, the cursor will turn into a different kind of arrow. By clicking and dragging it, you can move the edge of the sidebar back and forth. You are, to put it another way, manipulating the border between the normal window and the history window. By moving the mouse, you can increase the portion of the window devoted to either part. In a more extreme view of this situation, you're increasing or decreasing the amount of existence the sidebar has.

Now, let's apply this idea to something more abstract. Look out your window. If you don't live in a highly urbanized area, you should be able to see the horizon. Think of this as the border between the land and the sky. The land and sky are obviously distinguishable thanks to this boundary. Now, if you were to "drag" the sash between the sky and the land, or to manipulate the border between land and sky, you would end up causing the sky to become larger and the land to become smaller, or vice versa. An effect of this might be to cause something that was just on the ground to suddenly be hundreds of feet in the air. Truly a frightening situation to be in. So, look at it this way - manipulating the border between two physical things shifts whatever balance there is in the interaction between those things. Alternatively, by manipulating the border between two things, you can change the manner in which they exist.

>> No.2694375

Still, this isn't *that* abstract, since it's still dealing with real things in the real world. Many believe that in this world, there are those things that are true, and those that obviously aren't. This divides reality into two extremes: truth and falsehood. But, since we have two extremes, logically one can imagine a boundary between those two extremes - the border between truth and lies. If one were to manipulate this border, suddenly things that were pure fantasy (flying pigs, for the sake of argument) have become reality - or things from reality have ceased to exist. This is how Yukari is said to have invaded the moon - by manipulating the border between truth and lies, as applied to the reflection of the moon on a pond, she was able to make the reflection of the moon into a manifestation of the actual moon, and so send her youkai army onto it. This is what's truly amazing about Yukari's power - the ability to manipulate the border between completely abstract concepts allows her to fundamentally change reality as we know it (at least in terms of two abstract concepts).

>> No.2694380

That is SO stupid.

>> No.2694384

Okay, if there were infinite parallel universes, it would be statistically impossible for them not to contain every possible permutation of matter and energy.

>> No.2694391

Granted, that would also mean that there are an infinite number of universes precisely like our own with absolutely nothing different.

>> No.2694392

And the 11th dimension already contains every permutation in the universe.

>> No.2694394

It's statistically impossible for every number between 1.0 and 2.0 to NOT be greater than 3! Surely there has to be at least ONE number in there larger than 3-- no! LARGER THAN A MILLION!

How far do I have to move the history window to the right to open the favorites bar? I'm using Opera, not Firefox, by the way

>> No.2694399

>linear mathematics = quantum physics in badly understood dimensions

>> No.2694400

You got to be careful with the concept of infinity.
You could talk about sets of probabilities using quantum concepts.

>> No.2694403

>It's statistically impossible for every number between 1.0 and 2.0 to NOT be greater than 3! Surely there has to be at least ONE number in there larger than 3-- no! LARGER THAN A MILLION!

Hey whoa whoa, you got a lot of things wrong.
Remember there are various kinds of infinity and that R is a dense set.

>> No.2694406

What's up with the cheap math and physics?
This almost calls for a proper math/physics thread.

>> No.2694412

I'm aware it's wrong. I'm saying that his statement about every single possible event occuring somewhere in his theory of parallel universes is as ridiculous as the claim that there's a number larger than 3 between 1 and 2.

Even if there are an infinite number of universes, why are they necessarily all-encompassing? Is there ANY basis for this claim? And even then, if they are all encompassing, is a "universe" such as gensokyo even POSSIBLE?

>> No.2694431

Well yeah, that guy's statement was really stupid.
We got to remember that the set of all permutations of events and time is still bounded, that is, we got a finite constant that limits everything, that's the speed of light. So if a universe like Gensokyo is impossible.
Also, let me restate this later, I'm eating.

>> No.2694433

Infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters, man.
Just like Pi contains all digital works on it if you calculate it binary. Eventually, it is there.

>> No.2694452

You're confusing the concept of infinity. Read >>2694431

>> No.2694465

I see.
That's cool, I'm in a post-lunch daze

>> No.2694469

>speed of light
Outdated info, bro. c is relative, too.

>> No.2694483

uhhh, no.

>> No.2694491

Propagation speed of light≠speed of light

>> No.2694508

So, what you're trying to tell me, is that if I kill myself, I might end up being reborn in touhouland, to grow up to be the perfect danmaku loli, and make it just in time to appear in touhou 22, three months before ZUN dies?!

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I love my Yukari~

>> No.2694516

You really think his liver is gonna last another 10 years?

>> No.2694531

No, we're saying you better pray for the Higgs theory to be bullshit, and most not likely.

>> No.2694536

Guys, he did say POSSIBLE permutations. Not Gensokyo.

>> No.2694549

That's what I said, asshole, that there's no way you could think of a Gensokyo.

>> No.2694557

No, you said that guy didn't know what he was talking about when he specifically said all POSSIBLE permutations.

>> No.2694560


No, she doesn't.

Could you GRIMDARK fags at least *try* to read PMiSS?

>> No.2694564

We're talking about >>2694314

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>> No.2694571

/jp/ - Advanced Physics

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>> No.2694588

Oh. Sorry, my misunderstanding. Yeah, that guy has no idea what he's talking about.

>> No.2694604

Don't mind, happens to everyone.

>> No.2694606

/jp/ - Advanced Physics (New Scientist edition)

>> No.2694610

And this is how you participate in civil discourse on 4chan. It's probably a first.

>> No.2694629

It's not that rare actually, happens only in these kinds of discussion though.

>> No.2694672


It's perfectly arguable to assume that an alternate universe might have differing laws and physical constants. There has still never been a satisfactory answer to the question of "Why is the universe like this rather than something else?".

>> No.2694674

Anyone else notice how the discussions involving people with some education are marked by at least a pretense of courtesy, while all of the ronery and JP R NEET ONLY threads inevitable lapse into indecipherable flames?

>> No.2694709

I was thinking about that, now that we got extra tools for that reason, that is, the interaction with the Higgs field.
I mean, those boson, as with any particle, could perfectly be different and have different properties (not that it's entire the truth), but the photon is the only thing that doesn't interact with the Higgs field, but instead it has a limit speed. It could be that this limit is constant to any possible universe, we got no tools to state that it could be different. Then again, we know so little.

>> No.2694717

gaps break causality, sorry. maybe if you can find a universe with different basic rules you can have your purple wife

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>> No.2694738

And to answer your question, no, not only we don't why it is like, but also we don't know if it's the only possible outcome when a universe is created.

>> No.2694758

At least we know all quantum universes have the same properties as ours.

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>> No.2694799

Is there anyone else here who read the first line of OP's post and thought of that Pendulum song, Slam?

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>> No.2694806

I don't think I know what you're referring to.

>> No.2694825

Why's this pseudointellectual discussion ridden with normals in my jp? Get out.

>> No.2694828

Gensokyo is a land populated by things that people believe don't exist. It's not enough to simply not believe in something, but people have to actively disbelieve it. Hence youkai, fairies, witches, and other things people disbelieve in find their way to Gensokyo.

If you want to get to Gensokyo, then all you have to do is (1) become famous and (2) convince people that you never existed, were a myth or a legend. If you can manage to make people actively deny your existence then you, like oni, tengu, the moon landings, the holocaust, Springheel Jack and the Mad Gasser of Mattoon, will find yourself a new home in Gensokyo.

>> No.2694832


The opening speaking lines. The song popped into my head when I read the first line.

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>> No.2694860

You're the one who's normal by being ignorant.

>> No.2694868

And Atlantis!

>> No.2694871

Most people from the outside that stumble upon gensokyo are said to have been spirited-away. It has nothing to do with people denying your existence, at least not with humans.


>> No.2694920

So THAT'S where Tupac is

>> No.2694921


Fuck, where are my mermaid Touhou's?


>> No.2694939

Iku isn't enough for you?

>> No.2694970


>> No.2695012


This has music now?

Also, SanaeA is overpowered.

>> No.2695040

Original characters?
Aw hell naw.

>> No.2695072

[citation needed]

Quantum Theory atm is half-assed attempt at using linear math to explain physical property of subatomic particles, wait until a better theory comes, then it'll be displaced as quickly as it was born

There exist no physical proof a parallel universe exist

>> No.2695078

I'll start signing ZUN up for periodicals about marine biology and scuba diving. Plan cannot fail.

>> No.2695088

While we're all here, it's about time Zun came up with some sand Touhoes.

>> No.2695100


slam is pretty much Yukari's theme song

>> No.2695126

Guys, why wait for Yukari to gap to you when you can gap to Yukari? Maribel Han has gone to gensokyo before. Magick can take you the same route. It's probably not the route you were expecting, though.

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>> No.2695155

So, every religion's God(s) exist in Gensokyo?

So, love exists in Gensokyo?

Funky place, gotta make people believe I don't exist. I really wanna go there.

Plus - Underwater Touhous next, HEAVEN Touhous after that, then sand touhous, followed by african american touhous.

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If there was an infinite number of universes encompassing all possibiities, then our universe would be destroyed. There'd be an infinite amount of Yukari's out there who want to gap into our world, and they'd do so at every point in space and time.

>> No.2695237


So, Yukari is everywhere and anywhere all the time?

Always on my mind~

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you forgot the rest of your copypasta

>> No.2695345

I fucking knew it.

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>> No.2695368

I fucking love Yukari.

>> No.2695369

what the fuck is going on here

>> No.2695375

[X] Yukari is fooling around again.

>> No.2695376

See how when you said that the thread went downhill?

>> No.2695454

Has someone written a physical treatise on the concept of gaps yet?
Unfortunately I haven't heard the graduate courses on the topic yet but I'd figure with all the physicists here we should be able to come up with something.

>> No.2695499

Sounds interesting, I might do it.