/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[BasementGamer No.]

So, other than classes, what ways does /jp/ know to help learn the language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682590
Heisig method.

I learned 1500 kanji since monday.

[Anonymous No.]

Might I recommend Rosetta Stone?

[Anonymous No.]

Classes are only good if you're too lazy to learn by yourself. Self study is the way to go.

>>2682596
Bullshit method. Just get the Genki books.

[Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Leave the basement and practice on real human beings.

So yeah, not gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682602
If you think Genki makes Heisig irrelevant you're a nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682602
rapidshare?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682616
Heisig is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

Heisig is a waste of time if you just want to read, though if you want to be able to write it might be pretty helpful.

Just memorize kanji as you see them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682621

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682628
Go ahead and name me another method that's more effective in learning kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682621
search for torrents. not hard to find.

also this has great stuff
http://nihongo-dekimasu.blogspot.com/

[Anonymous No.]

Any real points as to why Heisig sucks, other than "lulz it sux"?

Doing it now and I find it effective thus far. The method makes a lot of sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682641
With Heisig you'd be remembering characters faster.

>>2682661
Don't mind them. People who think Heisig is a waste of time or doesn't work probably doesn't understand the point of it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682661

Well it's good if you wan't to write out every charachter from memory. But if you just want to read you can do the srs sentence mining part without doing the first heisig book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682661
because just by learning the single kanji you won't be able to understand japanese.
Sure Heisig might be a decent method to memorize the characters, but it's limited to that part. And there's all the other parts like verbs (all hiragana, kanji+hiragana, kanji compound + suru), compound nouns, only hiragana nouns.
You're just basically learning how to repeat the visual part of the kanji (which is at most 40%), but context and all the rest is not touched upon in the slightest, whereupon if you go by context (like with example phrases etc) you might not learn all kanji in the same time, but those you acquire you acquire at 100% of their possible usages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682691
>You're just basically learning how to repeat the visual part of the kanji (which is at most 40%)

That's the point behind Heisig book 1. Basically it's nothing more than just learning the alphabet to help you get to actual reading faster and believe me, it helps. What it does is bring you up to the level of a Chinese literate person learning Japanese and if you don't know yet, Chinese literates pick up Japanese a hell lot easier than others do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2682828
But you're not Chinese...why not do it the way your own native people do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>Heisig argument
HEY YOU FUCKS, we don't want to listen to you argue this shit for the 3rd time this week. If it works for you, fine. Shut up about it. If it doesn't work for you, fine, don't bitch at people who use it.