I've emerged from a cave. what the hell is touhou and why are people so gaga over it?

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Anonymous Sat May 30 02:14:23 2009 No.2679315 [Reply] [Original]

I've emerged from a cave.

what the hell is touhou and why are people so gaga over it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:16:23 2009 No.2679321 shootan gaems and moe

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:17:23 2009 No.2679325 An awesome Shoot 'em up series in Danmaku style.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:17:23 2009 No.2679335 >>2679315 ZUN's master plan to conquer the world

>>	Rosa gigantea !Du1A6pui8g Sat May 30 02:17:23 2009 No.2679333 File: 112 KB, 282x865, Touhou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do people go gaga over anything?

>>	Tamao Suzumi !!0l42/w//XuF Sat May 30 02:17:23 2009 No.2679328 File: 48 KB, 738x606, Reimu_01271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's an animu full of kawaii lesbians drinking tea.

Anonymous Sat May 30 02:17:23 2009 No.2679330

It's a pretty good doujin shmup with good music. Some of the popularity is bandwagon, some of it is genuine game fandom, some of it is from the porn, and (rather unfortunately) most of it is from the doujin works.

I guess to answer your question: Little girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:18:23 2009 No.2679337 lolicons with hat fetishes

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Sat May 30 02:18:23 2009 No.2679341 A series of excellent RPGs based off books of the same name.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:19:23 2009 No.2679350 LOLIS and LASERS mass quantities of both

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:20:23 2009 No.2679361 >>2679315 A danmaku stg with god tier music with a universe that leaves so many plot holes it's interesting and with charming characters, all made by a single drunk guy

>>	Lemon !!3Se367hYcxm Sat May 30 02:22:23 2009 No.2679375 File: 100 KB, 700x574, 38fb003b91cf9569c3820aa6a1a00d38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Satorin.

>>	Tamao Suzumi !!0l42/w//XuF Sat May 30 02:24:23 2009 No.2679382 File: 167 KB, 280x865, sh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:27:23 2009 No.2679389 The Touhou Project is a series of complex 2D shooter games (set against 3D backgrounds) developed by the Shanghai Alice team, that's gained popularity due to their large cast of characters and well developed storylines.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:29:23 2009 No.2679394 OP here, is the plot good?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:31:23 2009 No.2679400 >>2679394 Nope. Go for the gameplay only. in b4 trolls

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:32:23 2009 No.2679405 >>2679394 Yes, if you dig a lot into it and ignore the fanon totally. No, if you're too lazy to read a lot of extra material and only get what fanon shows you.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat May 30 02:33:23 2009 No.2679412 >>2679394 There is barely a plot, and the characters get a few lines of inane dialogue per game. It's a STG afterall. Most of the fun comes from outside sources.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:34:23 2009 No.2679416 >>2679382 I can say with confidence that this picture is genuinely not funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:35:23 2009 No.2679421 >>2679394 There is no plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:36:23 2009 No.2679422 >>2679405 That said, the music and gameplay are the main attractions. But since good plots are rare in stgs, it's relatively quite good.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:37:23 2009 No.2679427 >>2679412 Talking about Touhou as a universe. The canon written material is quite good.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:39:23 2009 No.2679436 >>2679315 >I've emerged from a cave. Bullshit. You'd had to have entered a cave recently after being outside for years in order to have heard about Touhou. How was it? Fun? I can't remember the feeling...

>>	Rosa gigantea !Du1A6pui8g Sat May 30 02:39:23 2009 No.2679437 The Bohemian Archive is quite nice. I probably enjoy it a lot more than the doujin works that I've seen.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:41:44 2009 No.2679439 >>2676434

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:42:23 2009 No.2679446 >>2679437 That and the Music CD's stories + PMiSS

Anonymous Sat May 30 02:44:23 2009 No.2679452

>>2679436
the cave was damp and it smelled like a Brazilian flat breads with hint of mustard.

crap, I have to read text book stuff to get the plot? please tell me that the plot isn't encompassed in multiple mediums where it takes me hours on forums and wikipedia to figure out which shit is canon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:46:23 2009 No.2679453 >>2679452 Yup, hence >>2679405

>>	Rosa gigantea !Du1A6pui8g Sat May 30 02:46:23 2009 No.2679457 >>2679452 Does it really matter? They're games; you play them. Everything else is just secondary so you just pick them up as you go. No one's forcing you to become a full-fledged touhoufag.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:48:23 2009 No.2679463 >>2679452 That's why there's a Touhou wiki.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:51:23 2009 No.2679474 >>2679452 I think you misunderstood me. I said you must have just entered the cave, rather than emerged from it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:52:23 2009 No.2679478 >>2679457 Also this, just play them for now, the music will be first thing to get you hooked.

Anonymous Sat May 30 02:53:23 2009 No.2679482

>>2679422
Really though, they're pretty silly. I'm not usually one to care much about plots in stgs but eh, they just seem so goofy. Compare Touhou's "LET'S HAVE TEA with the people we were just fighting" endings with, say, Darius'. They have different endings depending on your route, some of them are notoriously depressing. In one of G-Darius' endings, you defeat the boss and the resulting explosion emits a wave disintegrating everything, the two pilots' (male and female) ships are destroyed, and, well, just watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_FFP0Iv5g

Also Ikaruga's ending is pretty moving when you actually know what's going on (and if you actually understand the ship's voice "Was I helpful for you? I am deeply grateful... to you...")

Anonymous Sat May 30 02:54:23 2009 No.2679483

I play touhou without giving half a shit about the story, characters, and fanworks.
I don't know a single thing about the characters, plot, setting, or maybe, a superficial knowledge at best.
It doesn't matter 'cause I'm mostly in it for the gameplay. I haven't gotten into shoot-em-ups since the late 90's and I'm just rekindling my old obsession.
It's up to you whether or not you want to follow the fan works. Most people do. I'm probably missing out on something, but judging from the stuff posted here half the time, I don't think I'm missing out on anything good.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:59:23 2009 No.2679503 >>2679482 Well, Darius Gaiden's endings, even though they are moving, it has no deep meaning, you just won't care afterward. Ikaruga....well yeah.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:00:23 2009 No.2679505

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:00:23 2009 No.2679507 >>2679503 Also Darius Gaiden> G-Darius

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:01:23 2009 No.2679510
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I play them even though I'm shit at shmups for pretty bullet patterns.

That's literally my only reason. My reward for beating stage X is to get to see stage Y's midboss's spell cards.

Picture related; one of my favorites.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:04:23 2009 No.2679524

>>2679483
>but judging from the stuff posted here half the time, I don't think I'm missing out on anything good.

I believe I've seen EVERYTHING the Touhou canon works have to give, and I tell you, none of that you'll get to see in here. Like I said, it requires a lot of research to get to know what touhou really is, just judging from fanon and it's userbase will get you the wrong ideas, leading to believing it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:04:23 2009 No.2679531 >>2679503 >>2679507 In all fairness, touhou endings have even less meaning. It's mostly tea and crumpets with the final bosses, with retarded dialogue.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:07:23 2009 No.2679542 >>2679531 Then again, I said the plot is good if you see it as a universe and not just the games. The games by themselves, without the written canon material, have a pretty weak plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:08:23 2009 No.2679545 >>2679333 Anti-fatlus?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:10:23 2009 No.2679552 >>2679542 Even so, they have a plot, unlike darius Gaiden that has a bit of plot at the end which make no sense, I mean, they either same some planet or die, you don't really know what's going on in the middle of the game.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:10:23 2009 No.2679553

>>2679524
>it requires a lot of research to get to know what touhou really is
Browsing a wiki for a few minutes does not constitute "a lot of research".

Also,
>implying that touhou "really is" only officially produced works, and that the massive quantity of fanworks are not "really touhou"
You fail. The whole line of thought about "what touhou really is" is dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:11:23 2009 No.2679560 >>2679542 >Then again, I said the plot is good if you see it as a universe and not just the games. That's not plot. That's setting and characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:13:23 2009 No.2679569 >>2679553 >Browsing a wiki for a few minutes does not constitute "a lot of research". If that's your standard of research, then no wonder you think like that of touhou. Looks like you're the kind of person that actually care for fanon bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:15:23 2009 No.2679577 >>2679560 They're not only that, everything's not like PMiSS.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:16:23 2009 No.2679581

>>2679552
You don't really know what's going on in the middle of Touhou either... most of the text is like "ARE YOU THE CULPRIT?!" "Culprit? what?" "BUT ENOUGH TALK, HAVE AT YOU!" and then you fight the boss. Then you win and Reimu is like "Wellp, onto the next boss!" Darius is a struggle against a race that uses aquatic-themed battleships trying to eliminate humans. Depending on the stage route, that is how the story plays out. Aliens trying to eliminate all humans may be a bit generic, sure, but certainly not nonsensical.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:16:23 2009 No.2679580 Play the games, they are fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:19:23 2009 No.2679594 >>2679569 Wait... Are you even reading that post? There's a strange gap between what you're saying and the meaning behind the post you're replying to.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:19:23 2009 No.2679595 >>2679569 What? Pretty much all the canon works are on the wiki. Seems like you're just so proud of knowing THE TRUE CANON TOUHOU UNIVERSE that you think you're above everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:20:23 2009 No.2679597 >Newfag underage

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:21:23 2009 No.2679608 >>2679581 You just said exactly the same, only that Touhou actually has dialogues and fairies unlike no dialogues and gigantically fishes (Why are they aquatic animals anyway?). Not making a point here, I love Darius Gaiden.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:27:23 2009 No.2679625

>>2679595
>THE TRUE CANON TOUHOU UNIVERSE
Danmaku fight. Tea and Crumpets End.
You'll never need a "Crisis in Infinite Gensokyos" in the Touhou Universe.

...but there's really not much to canon in terms of "plot". We have the games, which are primarily about gameplay and have the usual minimum plot justification. And then we have glimpses of characters via BAiJR, scanty biographies in PMiSS, and a few short stories via the few manga, CoLA, and CiLR

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:29:23 2009 No.2679636 >>2679625 Everyone fucking forgets the Music CDs

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:31:23 2009 No.2679641

>>2679608
My point was that, without outside research, you really have no idea what is going on in any STG plot, dialogue or not, considering STG plots are generally only there to give a reason for the visual theme. Including Touhou. I'm going to sleep, I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread, haha.

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:36:23 2009 No.2679664

Anyone who thinks that Darius has no plot whatsoever apart from shooting down fish-shaped battleships is a bit misinformed.
I don't know if the old episodes have something akin to that as well or they adopted it on a later date while riding the wave of more recent shmups trends, but this is - for instance - the backstory for G.Darius:
http://www.geocities.com/hugedb/gameinfo/GDIntro.html
And yeah, this is just what carried over to the localized version. Since I have no knowledge of moonrunes to speak of I haven't even bothered to check the original source, but I assume that it would be far more sizeable and fleshed out.

Not wanting to prove anything here, of course. Just setting some records straight.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:41:23 2009 No.2679695 >>2679664 Darius Gaiden has a plot alright, with engrish and all.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:43:23 2009 No.2679703 File: 119 KB, 650x444, 120960838973.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >fish-shaped battleships Do they fire FOE bullets too?

Anonymous Sat May 30 03:57:23 2009 No.2679764
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>>2679703

Storm Causer was such an awesome boss fight.
They knew that with all the troubles they went through to animate it, using Golden Ogre just as a pushover boss for the introductory level would have been a waste, so they palette swapped its sprite, gave it new moves and place it in one of the final levels too.

Anonymous Sat May 30 04:20:23 2009 No.2679845

>>2679764
Talking about Darius Gaiden in /jp/ is like trying to discuss Heidi on /a/.

Even if both were made on Japan, people around won't even touch the game because it lacks of moe girls which is pretty much the only reason Touhou gets posted in /jp/ this much.

I like Darius Gaiden a lot, one of my favorites. The music is great, the gameplay is good as well as the story. Touhou is a great shmup, I have to admit I wouldn't have discovered Touhou if it wasn't for its fast growing fanbase, still it makes me sad that the game are being put aside and the fanmade material is taking over.

I don't think Touhou fandom is far to become into something similar to the Naruto or Bleach fandom in a few years ... it is unavoidable now.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 04:21:23 2009 No.2679848 Einhander had a bitchin plot. The pilot even had a girlfriend.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 04:36:23 2009 No.2679898 >>2679848 Oh the lost nostalgia.

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