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2646533 No.2646533 [Reply] [Original]

A new book from Ichijinsha, erotically (?) named “Your Body, Your Heart, They Belong to Me”, has gone on sale this week.

Copiously illustrated with manga artwork to instruct novices in the art of bondage, particularly shibari, the book is of course available in many of Akiba’s finest stores, which have taken the opportunity to create inspired product displays, as can be seen above…

The book carries the rather lengthy full title of 身体も心もボクのもの ~はじめてのSMガイド~ / “Your Body, Your Heart, They Belong to Me ~First Time SM Guide” and is 121 pages long.

What do you think, /jp/?

>> No.2646539
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>>2646533
Fascinating.

>> No.2646542
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>> No.2646549

>>2646542
Goddammit, it looks like the disgaea guy did the art.

Do not fucking want.

>> No.2646566

One of these days, I'll learn how to do the turtle shell. I really like the design. Too bad I have no one to practice it on.

>> No.2646570

>>2646533

Illegal in United Kingdom, Philliphines,Saudi Arabia,Finland and Malaysia

>> No.2646576

scans?

>> No.2646594

Manga can make anything good.

>> No.2646615
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2646615

>>2646566
Practice on yourself.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/05/24/first-time-sm-guide-on-sale-in-akiba/
more photos here (no scans)

>> No.2646622

Cute.

>> No.2646827

>>2646615 http://www.sankakucomplex.com
Don't post this.

Please.

>> No.2647929

>>2646827
DURR HURR

>> No.2647937

SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS SCAN THIS

>> No.2647956

>>2646615
Wait, you can do that?

>> No.2647958

>>2646827
Is it OK to post AkibaBlog?
http://en.akibablog.net/archives/2009/05/50839654.html
>A person in Gamers Main Branch did "Hishi Shibari," which is introduced in Hajimete no SM Guide for real by using his own rope, and on POP, "real S staff is recommended highly!," "Kikkou Shibari is easy to do more than I thought," "I could tie easily after reading this," "from now on, I'll tie my girl," etc, happy voices by its staff were written.

>> No.2647959

I don't like bondage.

>> No.2647963
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I never got the point of bondage.

>> No.2647969

>>2647929
average sankakucomplex reader

>> No.2647992

>>2647956
Yep. It's simple.

>>2647959
Nobody cares.

>> No.2647993

>>2647959
I don't like it either.

>> No.2648020

>>2647992
>Nobody cares.
The OP does.
>What do you think, /jp/?

>> No.2648024

>>2647959

Read Nana to Kaoru.

I don't think you'll keep the same opinion after that.

>> No.2648055

>>2648024
I'm actually already reading it but I'm still not into bondage.

>> No.2648070

>>2648024
>Nana to Kaoru
Gimme a link then.

>> No.2648101

>>2648024
Nana to Kaoru changed my view on bondage.
Actually, is it still being translated? I have chapter 1-15 on my hdd, but I never found a new chapter.

>> No.2648105

Wait.

MaullarMaullar's back?

>> No.2648136

>>2648101
http://mangahelpers.com/s/free-time

>> No.2648218

The artist seems to be the same guy who did the Akihabara Crossdressing guides.

Still, from the samples I've seen, I would actually buy this if it had a translation to a language I could understand.

It does seem to explain some of the more complicated positions and knots which you normally can't find online (at least on english sites).

>> No.2648234

>>2648218
>Akihabara Crossdressing guides
WTFITS?

>> No.2648244

The book comes with a rope? Is the rope long enough to actually use, or is it just for show?

>> No.2648263

>>2648234
It's even on /rs/

Don't tell me /jp/ has that much of a short span memory:
http://rs309.rapidshare.com/files/105628185/onna_no_ko_ni_naritai_raw.rar

>> No.2648281

>>2648244
If you mean the one the cover, it looks more as something for show (though maybe you can use it to tie up thumbs and fingers).
For japanese traditional bondage you normally need a LOT of rope. Around 7 metres minimum for each body tie. Then another 3-5m for each extermity you wanna tie up separately. Don't know how much that is in US system.

>> No.2648318

>>2648281
23 feet per body
10-16 feet per extremity
DAMN

>> No.2648351

>>2648318
Still, totally worth it. Actually, someone should post this on /d/ to see what they say.

>>2646615
There's also a male version/variation of this tie. Either by going around the genitalia or by tying them up (in the case of the balls it is advised not to tie it too tight unless you wanna risk becoming infertile).

>> No.2648358

Sankaku, I'm fucking sure of it.

>> No.2648399

>>2648136
That is faptastic. And none of that shitty censorship.

>> No.2648407

>>2648358
Samefag, calm down already.

>> No.2648462

What's the point of bondage?

>> No.2648511
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>>2648462
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_(BDSM)
Read this or some other manual, you will find much more information, than you can get here. And stop your "I'm not into bondage/What's the point of bondage?/etc", you annoying brat.

>> No.2648533

>>2648462
What's the point of 2D?
What's the point of latex?
What's the point of crossdressing?
What's the point of wearing sexy lyngerie?

>> No.2648536

>>2648533
What's the point of point?

>> No.2648549

What is the point of life?

>> No.2648573

>>2648549
Eat, reproduce, sleep.
Rinse & Repeat until you die.

>> No.2648742

>>2648511
It talks about sexual excitement from being restricted and vulnerable, but >>2646615 doesn't restrict you at all.

>> No.2648840

>>2648742
It's not always about restraint. Having tried it myself, that particular tie does restrict breathing slightly, but what's more important is the way it cuts into your skin when you stretch and grinds against your crotch when you bend over. Hidden under clothing it's very much like secretly masturbating in public.

Sometimes it's just about the feel of the rope, mang.

>> No.2648886

>>2646566
its very easy. after doing it once, i have it in memory. i tied up my hand, an ink bottle (still tied) ect. i used yarn. anything with 'shoulders' (something to hold the top in place) can be used.

>> No.2648899

SCANS WHERE

>> No.2648943

Goddamnit, things like this make me sad I'm male and never going to be in a relationship where I can do these kinds of things.

>> No.2648963

You know what to do, /jp/.

>> No.2650366

>>2648943
You can always apply it on yourself. Some of the ties are apt for selfbondage.
Either that or get a girl who's willing to dom you.

>>2648963
Wait like everyone else that someone buys it and scans it?
Maybe we should post it on /d/ as suggested. People over there will be more willing to buy this considering it actually explains harder ties with pictures (which is more important than the text).

>> No.2650553

>>2646549
>it looks like the disgaea guy did the art.

Suddenly I want it.

>> No.2650613

>>2648840
Female detected.

>> No.2650694

>>2650366
>Either that or get a girl who's willing to dom you.

If only man, if only...

>> No.2650706
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>>2650613
You wish

>> No.2651227

>>2650366
Turlte shell has no profit on man cause he has no pussy to stimulate with rope pressure.

>> No.2651401

>>2651227
A man has a nice penis a nice forehead to stimulate. Also, try tying your penis and forcing it back with the turtle shell (don't do it too often though).
It's weird yet arounsing.
Aside from that, the ropes biting into you also do the jobe pretty well.

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Backcover

>> No.2652702

No scans yet?

>> No.2654660

>>2652702
Unless the elevens release it themselves to the net don't expect before a month has passed.

>> No.2654678

Too 2D for me.

>> No.2654712

I feel uncomfortable talking about intimate stuff like this with /jp/.

It's like revealing your fetishes to your closest friends.

>> No.2654715

>>2654712
You must have shitty friends if you can't feel comfortable enough around them to talk about something as small as a fetish

>> No.2654718

Holy shit, this topic's still here?

>> No.2654723

Men who are into being dominated are pitiful. That said excessive domination from either party is pretty pitiful.

>> No.2654729

My gf she likes such things, maybe i should get this book for her :P

>> No.2654737

>>2654723
It's not that I want to be into this ;_;

>> No.2654746

Discussing fetishes I don't mind so much, but discussing SM stuff is strange.
Pain and sexual pleasure have never mixed for me.
And for once, I kind of agree with athens on something.

>> No.2654747

>>2651401

It just wouldn't be the same. As previously mentioned, our sexual organ is not directly connected to the rope, and breast bondage is worthless when you don't have breasts. Besides, all the hair we have will just make it more painful than sensual, as it will keep getting caught up in the ropes.

>> No.2654750
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2654750

>>2654678
Yes, bondage doesn't work in two dimensions.

Man, I'm bored.

>>2654712
Anonymity, honourable friend, haven't you come to terms with its implications? This is nothing like revealing anything to people in real life.

>> No.2654754

>>2654712
My friends don't seem to mind.
Then again, I *am* german so I guess that might explain it.

>>2654723
My friend, most people just like to switch places. Kinda like when you switch who's on top each time.

>>2654729
Why not? She might even think it's cute.

>> No.2654762

>>2654750
The real question is... Would bondage work in 4 (spacial) dimensions?

>> No.2654764

>>2654746
>Pain and sexual pleasure have never mixed for me.
I used to feel the same way. Then I tried pinching my nipples while fapping. There was a bit of pain, but it was oddly stimulating.

>> No.2654768

>>2654754

Yeah ,probably I think she would be happy:P

I have to search littel around Osaka to find it in some book shop

>> No.2654769

>>2654762
Knots don't work in 4d.

http://www.math.harvard.edu/archive/21a_spring_06/exhibits/unknotting/index.html

You could still wrap somebody up though.

>> No.2654772

>>2654764
My nipples are too sensitive to be fucked with.

>> No.2654778

>>2654764
Not to barge in but I consider bondage to be more in the line of latex in how it feels to the body rather than pinching nipples (which might be more in line with geting whipped).
The sense of being out of control, however, is quite something on its own.

>> No.2654779

>>2654737
I understand, but it's like anything sexual, indulgence in it just means that you have to find a new 'high' to get off on, like a drug. I guess light bondage is pretty harmless, but there's a fine line between domination and degredation as I mentioned.

Let me put it this way, could you respect your girlfriend if she said 'My sexual fantasy is to be fucked up the ass by a gang of 50 men one after the other, so carpe diem, let's do it!' ?

>> No.2654788

>>2654768
Say, don't mind to barge in, but you think you could scan us a copy of it?
If not, at least have fun with your gf, if you know what I mean

>> No.2654804

>>2654779
No. And that's not what this guide is about.
It's actually how to start on light bondage and work your way up to a certain degree but it seems pretty tame stuff to me.
Take a look into the blogs' scans of a few of the pages and you'll see what I mean.

>> No.2654848

I once fapped with cold water running over my penis. Done it a couple of times, actually. Felt... okay. Numb. Silly after I finished (like most masturbation). Closest I've got to sexual masochism!

>> No.2654853

>>2654779
Do I get to get gangraped, too?

>> No.2654855

>>2654779
Well, the standard you keep a woman to is a little different, since when a woman has sex, you expect her to be penetrated, and it doesn't work that way for men.

>> No.2654860

>>2654848
That's called masturbating in the shower, anon.

>> No.2654869

>>2654855
If a man isn't willing to get penetrated for you, is it really love?

>> No.2654899

Do want.
Will anyone scan this eventually? And how will I remember?

>> No.2654904

>>2654860
I don't take ice cold showers.

>> No.2654906

>>2654899
Nobody has offered him/herself to do it yet.

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>>2654869

>> No.2654914

>>2654904
かっこい物語り、兄貴

>> No.2654923

>>2646615
Do fucking want.

>> No.2654936

>>2654923
"Do want" to tie yourself up, or tie a girl up?
Or are you a girl who wants to be tied up (don't answer that one please).

>> No.2655017

>>2654936
The third one, naturally.

>> No.2655021

>>2654936
What about a girl that wants to tie herself up?

>> No.2655254

>>2654936

No, I want the book. I want to learn how to tie a girl properly. Knowledge is power. If I'm going to be tying up a girl again I'm gonna do it for real, so I want to know my craft (I've learned quite a lot of techniques from watching bondage porn anyway).

Not doing it right makes you look like a dork, whereas knowing your craft lets you be in control, and makes you look like a master of your thing. Respect, it's important in every sexual relationship, moreso in BDSM ones.

>>2655021
I support girls wanting to tied themselves up, but as a guy, I'd rather be the one who does it to them.

>> No.2655260

>>2655254
Samefag.

I also find pictures of tied up women arousing, and I would fap to the book.

>> No.2655291

>>2655260
Don't fap too close to the book or the pages will stick. It is okay if you just get it on the outer cover as long as you clean it off quickly.

>> No.2655366

>>2655291

Thanks.

>> No.2656920

>>2654923
Do it, faggot.

>> No.2657102

And we sitll have no kind soul who'll scan it for us.

I'm almost tempted of actually buying this for once.

>> No.2657374

>>2657102
>I'm almost tempted of actually buying this for once.
If you do, don't forget to scan and share it.

>> No.2657539

>>2655254
>Not doing it right makes you look like a dork
>dork
It's called "amateur". And first time you will be amateur no matter how much you will read and watch. Practice makes perfect.

>> No.2657549

>>2646533
Do all copies come with that rope on it? If they do, I'm going to hunt this down and buy a copy.

>> No.2657556

SM is the ultimate and only possible true form of love between a man and a woman. Prove me wrong!

>> No.2657561

Japanese rope bondage is so fucking hot. Especially that shit where she could wear it under her clothes. Fuck, I get boners just thinkin' about that stuff. I need to find a gf into that :(

>> No.2657566

>>2657549
No.

>> No.2657599

>>2654769
One moment I'm browsing /jp/ bondage thread, wondering if there's any fap material, and the next I find myself reading about hyperbolic invariants in knot theory. Is this what they call ADHD?

>> No.2657615

>>2657561
>need to find a gf into that

Did you miss the 'by clicking this you permanently revoke your right to (real)female compainonship for the rest of your life' fine print when you clicked the /jp/ link perchance?

>> No.2657619

>>2657599
That's just called browsing the internet.

>> No.2657631

>>2657549
Just buy a damn rope. Is it hard?

>> No.2657635

>>2657631
I wouldn't actually open the book if it had that on it. It would be a decorative item.

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>> No.2657661

>>2657659
Lord knows you wouldn't want your hands to be recognized on the internet.

>> No.2657668

>>2657635
Then buy a book and tie it up. Simple.

>> No.2657671
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>>2657661
He does show them.

>> No.2657674

>>2657668
That's just not the same.

>> No.2657695

>>2657674
FYI, that copy shown is from the store clerk who decided to do it for display purposes. He doesn't sell that particular copy and the rest of them don't come with it.

You might still ask him nicely if he can do one for you if you bring some shoelaces and buy a copy (or two)

>> No.2657706

>>2657674
Jeez, swallow a halberd.

>> No.2657967

>>2657659>>2657671
Not so ronery?

>> No.2657974

>>2657695
Nah. It has lost its appeal now.

>> No.2658172

This book is worthless w/o translation cause it seems to be full of interesting information.

>> No.2658287

>>2658172
If anyone actually bought and scanned it, I'd be interested in translating it.

Just throwing that out there.

>> No.2658319

>>2648218
>Akihabara Crossdressing guides
Weren't it translated yet?

>> No.2658735

>>2657659
Bloody fucking brilliant! Practice dummy! Why didn't i mentioned it before?!

>> No.2658825

>>2648218
Sauce on the title of these guides?

>> No.2658845

>>2658825
Damn, are you blind? Not just title (Onna No Ko Ni Naritai), but a link to a whole book.
http://rs309.rapidshare.com/files/105628185/onna_no_ko_ni_naritai_raw.rar

>> No.2659007

>>2658319
>Weren't it translated yet?
/r/ translation or even scanlation

>> No.2659008

>>2658319
If they have been translated (the crossdressing ones) I am not aware of it.

Oh, and this bondage guide seems pretty easy to use without translation but I think even the translation for specific ties wouldn't be that difficult (translating the whole book, however, would be a different beast)

>> No.2659016
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2659016

Голод не тётка

>> No.2659032

>>2659008
>" Hajimete no SM Guide" carries 7 chapters such as #1 " what is SM," #2 "let's look for a partner," #3 " Soft SM," #4 " middle-class play," " let's tie a girl!," #6 "pleasure of M," and #7 "hard SM and other plays." In the "introduction," "SM is an action that is filled with love for a partner. Not only for breaking down a mannerism of a couple, but also, it deepens the relationship with your partner for sure. SM… why don't you try?"

Seems to be more, than just "how-to bind". Interesting to read.

>> No.2659424

DO WANT

>> No.2660325

>>2659032
Certainly. I guess I misunderstood due to the scans.

>> No.2660373

>>2659032
Where's the part where you get to torture, kill and dispose of the body?

>> No.2662414

>>2660373
In the other book.

>> No.2662814

One guy in /d/ said he's got the book and the scans will be up shortly.

>> No.2662923

>>2662814
Nice!

>> No.2662946

bondage isn't my cup of tea thanks, especially how thoroughly it's done in stuff like op

>> No.2664556

>>2662946
That means you are the cockmongler or something.

>> No.2664968

>>2662814
Has he said when?

>> No.2666300

Bump.

>> No.2666808

> #7 "hard SM and other plays."
So I guess that includes candles, whips and stuff like that?

>> No.2668008

>>2664968
He said then he get enough time alone with a scanner. Something like that.

>> No.2668615

>>2666808
Seems to be.

>> No.2668939

Bump

>> No.2669033

>>2668008
More like he has to wait to get his hands on the thing.
Shipping from Japan can take some weeks.

>> No.2669060

>>2669033
Maybe he's eleven or just from Area 11.

>> No.2669326

>>2669060
Nah, I was on the /d/ thread. He said how much shipping would cost. I looked it up and for that shipping price he must have been in Europe.

>> No.2669683

hmm, was in kinokuniya in shinjuku last week, didnt saw this.

too bad now i am back home.

>> No.2669811

>>2669326
Damn.

>> No.2670175

>>2669683
No wonder you didn't saw it - this book has gone on sale *this* week. Just few days ago.

>> No.2670602

>>2669683
Did you kindnap a loli or two during trip? :3

>> No.2670611

How the hell is this thread still alive? You awkward fucks sure dont know anything, do you?

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2670697

>>2670611
Is there a problem?

>> No.2670719

>>2670611
We actually enjoy having threads that don't disappear in a few hours.

>> No.2670743

>>2670697
No problem sir, im just truly amazed how a thread of this caliber can survive in the constant flood of shithou.

>> No.2670759

>>2669326
>>>/d/1601116
He got it alredy, actually. But he don't want to scan it.

>> No.2671021

>>2670743
Anons just want to learn bondage tricks that much.

>> No.2671150

>>2646570 Finland

do tell.

>> No.2671159

>>2671150
Shitland

>> No.2671276

>>2671159
Yeah I agree, and if I can't order SM guides here, it's even shittier than I thought.

>> No.2671316

>>2670759
There's a difference between the book having almost no content and him saying he'll just scan a few interesting pages and not be wanting to scan it at all.

I kinda expected this as the trap guide was the same and had only a few interesting pictures for people who don't know japanese.
Even more so considering this one is longer than the crossdressing one (roughly twice as long).

>> No.2671663

>>2671316
Look at the preview. There's a bunch of pictures on every page.

>> No.2672120

>>2671316
>trap guide
Does it even worth reading?

>> No.2672492

>>2672120
Actually yes, if you have some grasp of japanese and want to do it somewhat seriously.
It's useful both for casual traps who want to just try to see if they could pass if they bought the right equipment (clothes, make-up, wax, wigs, etc.) and knowledge, and it also has few foot notes for those who are rather looking to change their sex (there's a page speaking about hormones).

All in moon but if some parts, like the make-up one can be understood through the pictures.

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