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Slowpoke here, just tried out YMK, and finished the aeka route.

I feel happy, but so sad at the same time that she has to endure so much hardship. I was very close to the verge of tears, and I am an emotional wall. The part where she almost got raped was the worst.

YMK general thread, also discuss Aeka.

>> No.2571884

Aeka > *

>> No.2571891

>>2571884
Wrong sign, bro. You meant to use '<'.

>> No.2571897

Aya > *

>> No.2571892 [SPOILER] 
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2571892

Best moment in her route.

>> No.2571896

Sempai is best. Always.

Aeka is poor and not healthy.

>> No.2571899

Aeka's route tries too hard.

>> No.2571901

>>2571884
You misspelled Aya there.

>> No.2571902

All I know is, Aeka had really nice feet. Too bad she never gave the main guy a footjob.

>> No.2571898

>>2571865
Needed a route where you're the one that rapes her at the behest of you know who.

>> No.2571908

Mizuki >= Nekoko >> Aeka

>> No.2571915

Aya > Mizuki >= Nekoko >> Aeka

>> No.2571917

OP here, is there any other route than those 3?

Also, Gay Aristocrat was funnier than expected.

>> No.2571918

All 3 routes has all their moments.

But all Aeka could offer is petty revenge.

Mizuki had: OH MAN I GOT DRUGGED AND NOW ! AM ON A FLIGHT TOWARDS MACAO, FUCK YES GAMBLING IN A FANCY CASINO! INTERCOUR-HOLY FUCK I'M FAAAAAAAAALLING!
SPLASH

FUCK YES BEAR MY CHILD!

>> No.2571924

>>2571918
Hmm... I can't really remember, but did nekoko route contain a "choke a bitch"-scene? That'd make it the only one, if so.

>> No.2571928

It would be nice if every YMK thread didn't turn into "my girl>your girl" shitfests.

>> No.2571929

>>2571924
No Mizuki had the CHOKAN SEX.

>> No.2571938

>>2571918
That was pretty good. I like her, but understand why others might not, considering how quickly it jumps around.

>>2571924
The entire route was like that:

"Hey Puff, what's goinHOLY SHIT STUN GUN UP THE ASS."

Drugs.

"Holy shit she's under the counter. AND THE PUFF FINDS ME EROTIC."

More drugs.

"I'M GETTING CHASED BY GUYS THAT WANT TO KILL ME, AND SUDDENLY I'M IN HER ASS, WHAT THE FUCK."

Drugs.

"STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN, BABY."

Yeah.

>> No.2571946

I liked all three routes but the fact that the only one who's name I could remember is Aeke speaks for itself.

What was Nekoko's real name again? Librarian?

Also who did not see it coming, seriously.

>> No.2571952

>>2571946
Sakurai Hiroko

>> No.2571975
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2571975

Obligatory "Choke A Bitch" pic

Best route! Fuck your bakeries and amusement park bullshit!

>> No.2572000

>>2571946

Seriously, I didn't see it coming at all. Even when I saw her in the principals office my first thought was "Wow, why is the librarian here? Was she caught too?!"

Yeah, I still feel pretty stupid because of that.

>> No.2572027

>>2571938

The fact that Tsubaki got the most light in Nekoko's route is also a plus.

>> No.2572044

>almost got raped
>almost

...I was ALMOST going to read YMK.

>> No.2572048

>>2572044

Sorry, she just gets punched in the face, partially stripped, and then protagonist-san becomes a master at knife combat to save her.

>> No.2572057
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>>2571975
Seconded.
Also, I love the music during that scene.

>> No.2572059

>>2572048
He invokes the spirit of Nanaya

>> No.2572063

>>2572048
Well that's retarded. Why would they do that? The entire point, from what I've heard, is to have her completely broken from assorted bullyings before the main character brings her back from the edge of despair.

>> No.2572064

One thing that I didn't like about YMK is that they never explained wtf the auditory hallucination was, or who the hell that woman on the train in the progatonist's dreams was. It seemed like they were gonna go somewhere with it at first, but then it just kinda fell flat.

>> No.2572071

Kouhei can kills servants.

>> No.2572074

>>2572063

She hits the edge of despair before that scene, though.

On The Moonlit Rooftop is her attempt at suicide, after all.

>>2572064

JENOSAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDO

>> No.2572088

>>2572064
I thought train woman was just a random Galaxy Express reference.

>> No.2572093
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2572093

>>2572064
GENOCIDE!

>> No.2572105

>>2572064
They do make mention of it. The auditory hallucination, at least. It's in all of the routes, if I remember correctly.
Basically, it stops when he breaks routine and his life becomes less mundane.

As for the lady on the train, I don't really know.

>> No.2572106

>>2572093

What was the deal with that character anyway

>> No.2572109

If I were to rate the routes out of 10

Aeka: 10
Nekoko: 8
Mizuki: 7

Aeka has the best route because it feels you with emotion.

>> No.2572113

>>2572109
>Mizuki: 7
No taste.

>> No.2572115

Is this game any good?

I remember getting bored and then just fast forwarding to the H-Scenes.

>> No.2572116

>>2572088
That's what I thought.

>> No.2572120

>>2572109

>because it feels you with emotion.

Aeka gets a 8/10 and Nekoko gets a 72/10, then.

Fuck, my heart was shredded to pieces over Nekoko.

>> No.2572123

Aeka and Neko have actual problems. Aeka being bullied to theextreme and Neko being a drug addicted. Mizuki's problem is that she feels she won't be alive the next day. What a shitty problem. What a shitty character. What a shitty route. The only good thing about Mizuki's route is that it has the most sex scenes but YMK isn't good because of the sex scenes. In truth they get in the way of the story.

>> No.2572129

Generic shit.

>> No.2572131

>>2572123
"Oh, my horrible enui."

>> No.2572135

>>>2572120
Mine didn't. I don't really feel sympathy for her because she rejects help. Maybe it's because I've always thought of druggies as idiots.

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>>2572123
>In truth they get in the way of the story.
Agreed on this point, but nothing else.

>> No.2572147

If you sort of want more Aeka and know a bit of Japanese (and/or can at least make use of AGTH + translatin' program) there's this game by ZERO called 'Itaikena Kanojo' which is sort of similar in a few ways.

Basically, there's this girl named Honoka who nobody likes. She gets bullied, mostly by the girls, but also picked on by the teachers etc. You, the protagonist, lost a bet with some friends and, as punishment, you have to confess to her and go out with her for a minimum of a week.

The game is awful because it's a lot meaner than Yume Miru Kusuri in some ways - Honoka honestly brings a lot of the negative attention on herself, but also has pretty consistently terrible luck. There's also a scene near the end which is sort of akin to the rooftop climax scene in YMK, and is in some ways even more satisfying.

The problem is that the protagonist is also a bit of a jerk (like nearly EVERYONE in the game is), which makes it rather annoying at times.

>> No.2572158

>>2572147
>rooftop climax scene in YMK, and is in some ways even more satisfying.
Did she jump? That's the main thing that would have made the roof scene better.

>> No.2572166

>>2572158
Actually, I mean the whole choke-a-bitch scene (and the associated leadup to it).

>> No.2572177

Why doesn't Aeka wear socks?
Barefoot girl with seifuku is my fetish, though.

>> No.2572180

>>2572123
It's called an existential crisis. It might not be that serious of a problem but it's the most realistic one and therefore the easiest to relate to.

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>>2572180
She's a self-absorbed bitch, basically.
Her problem is that she's not satisfied with life.

>> No.2572224

>>2572222
You of course fix that by knocking her up.

I don't see a problem here.

>> No.2572231

Character-wise:

Nekoko > Mizuki > Aeka

Route-wise:

Aeka > Mizuki > Nekoko

>> No.2572232

>>2572224
What a slut.

>> No.2572235

Woman being difficult.
Apply dick repeatedly until satisfactory effect is reached.

>> No.2572243

>>2572231
I think you meant to put Nekoko > Aeka > Mizuki for both.

>> No.2572254

>>2572243

Pretty sure I didn't.

I like both Mizuki and her route, despite agreeing on her problem being stupid. Also, >>2571975 was fucking hot.

Aeka's route was awesome, but I never cared much for Aeka herself aside from her character design. Bitch gave up without taking all of the options to fight back that were available to her.

Nekoko is an entertaining character, but her route wasn't that great.

>> No.2572266

>>2571918
Fuck, Mizuki route really was fucking weird in the end. Cue the suspension of disbelief. Or belief, if it were. Is this real life? Or is this just fantasy?

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>>2572254
>options to fight back that were available to her
You're a funny guy broseph.

>> No.2572281

>>2572267
She had plenty of options. She even said herself that she could have just left the school. She deserved it for being such a dumbass.

>> No.2572283

All these bitches have hidden personalities.

Aeka will go all crazy if you touch her boyfriend, but is otherwise harmless and useless.

Nekoko IS Librarians alter-ego, the problem is she has to do drugs just wake that side up.

Mizuki is all scared and depressed but most of the time IS FUCKING AWESOME. She doesn't do drugs and drink to loosen up but rather to make things crazier.

>> No.2572285

>>2572283
BITCH KNOWS HOW TO PARTY

>> No.2572297

>>2572267

You're borderline retarded if you can't think of anything else that she could have done, bro.

Its been a while, but IIRC, she didn't bother talking to the police or the principal (and given some of the shit that was happening to her, it would be impossible to turn a complete blind eye and still hold some image of realism; of course, all of the students and teachers staying out of it and cutting ties with anyone that got on Antoinette's bad side wasn't exactly realistic), she didn't bring a weapon of her own and/or learn self-defense + train to equalize things, etc.

>> No.2572309

>>2572281
Yeah it was stupid of her to hope she could simply endure it until she graduates and avoid the troubles to herself and her family involved in changing schools. It's hard to judge a situation clearly from the inside.
"Deserved it"? Noone deserves that. A clean death would be preferable to me personally though I would have freaked out completely in her situation and done something really stupid. (which she did, to a degree, when she dared whatserface to kill her)
Besides cutting off the situation completely, switching schools, moving possibly, there's not really any way she could have reasonably "fought back".

>> No.2572311

>>2572297
watched too many movies

oh wait, Aeka is a fictional character too.

>> No.2572326

>>2572311

Yes, running to the police, running to the school authorities, becoming more fit, and carrying a weapon are very ineffective ways of dealing with violent bullying IRL.

The former two might not make you popular, but it'll make a lot of bullies think twice before trying anything.

>> No.2572336

>>2572281
The reason she didn't want to leave school was because her mom was busting her ass just to send her to that special school.

>> No.2572347

>>2572336

"I didn't want to trouble you" is one of the dumbest common writing techniques to cause problems/prevent the early resolval of problems in the Japanese writer's arsenal.

>> No.2572351

>>2572347

>resolution

Couldn't think of the word for some reason.

>> No.2572356

>>2572347
>I didn't want to trouble you

Yet it's what anon would say in the same situation.

>> No.2572359

>>2572297
It's true that her situation and plight were dramatized in order to amplify them, but really she was in a situation where fighting back would've only brought more trouble.

Call the police? Whats the point when every witness testifies against you. Teachers? Same situation (though it seemed like Antionette was controlling them via another means as well). Learn how to fight? Even if she brought some sort of weapon (a gun would be highly unlikely, as this is Japan) she would've needed to pull off some serious bullshit plothax to beat all of Antionette's cronies, the girl herself, and her boyfriend.

The best situation would've been to leave, but as >>2572336 said, she didn't want to hurt her mom, who was already in a shitty situation.

>> No.2572361

>>2572356
;_;

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>>2572326
Based on the story, unbelievable as it is already with all the students as well as teachers bending over backwards to avoid seeing what is going on, it's nota big leap to guess that nothing would come of going to the authorities. The school wanting to avoid bad publicity and covering it up and the police finding it hard to do anything without witnesses and concrete evidence as well as the teachers being unable or unwilling to get involved.
Bringing a weapon you don't know how to use for self protection is one of the dumbest things you can do. I can just see Aeka cutting herself on the knife she brought to scare off the bullies. And firearms aren't exactly easy to get ahold of in countries with, you know, gun control.
Yeah, Do some crunches and take a few self defence classes and you're Bruce Lee in a week.

>> No.2572365

>>2572356

lolwut

>> No.2572368

If she fights back, they'll just say that it was Aeka that attacked them first.

>> No.2572379

>>2572347
A lot of japan's culture is based around that though.

>> No.2572386

>>2572356

Sad but true.

>> No.2572392

>>2572347
It fits her character well though, she's a meek person and probably blames herself for most things (rightly or wrongly). She wouldn't want to do something that would upset someone.

>> No.2572394

Finished YMK. And it was really, really average.

95% of the cast was completely unlike-able, the exceptions being the gay guy and Aya. The plot wasn't all that good, though it did have it's moments. The resolution was either extremely stupid or doesn't resolve much at all, depending on which you take.

That said, I didn't hate it. It was interesting enough to keep me reading, but it never wowed me or made me experience any emotion at all, for that matter. The sad moments never effected me, and the 'intense' moments made me go ''meh''. Everything is pretty much forgettable.

Can somebody explain me why people hyped it so much? Because there's absolutely nothing special about it.

>> No.2572400

If you follow Nekoko's or Mizuki's route, Aeka's attempted suicide seems to draw Antoinette into some trouble. COMMITTING SUICIDE AND IMPLICATING ANTOINETTE IS THE ANSWER

>> No.2572403

>>2572400
She just gets pulled in for questioning by the police.

That really means nothing if they let her go due to lack of evidence.

>> No.2572407

>>2572359

She could at least try.

Then again, I guess that they did try to cross that option off by making everybody unrealistically afraid of and subservient to Antoinette, even the teachers. If she could resolve the situation by going through the same channels that work to deal with the kind of thing IRL, then there wouldn't be any need for the protagonist to step in and scare them off.

But at least if she tried, it'd be easier to respect her situation as one that she really couldn't do anything about except suck it up and hope that they don't kill her.

>>2572363

Because only lethal weapons are available on the market, MIRITE? And everybody outside of the school is also afraid of Antoinette and would lie in court? (then again, given the excuse that they used to stop her from going to the authorities, I wouldn't be surprised) And circumstantial evidence (read: 1 vs. 5 or 6; not to mention that she'd have injuries that go above and beyond merely disabling her, suggesting that the other kids were out to seriously injure her, which I'd assume isn't acceptable in a Japanese court even when it started as self-defense) wouldn't suggest that Antoinette's group was lying?

And I never said that it wouldn't take time. People on 4chan seem to have a bad habit of putting words in your mouth.

You can increase your stamina enough to at least make running away a bit easier within a few months, though.

>> No.2572427

>>2572407
When she did build up enough courage to fight back (which only happened after kouhei started getting bullied) it ended up with her on the verge of being raped. If she put up a fight before she started her relationship with kouhei, I doubt anyone would've saved her.

>> No.2572464

>>2572427

The way that she fought back was one of the dumbest ways that she could have taken, though.

She basically just thoughtlessly provoked them and then relied on her ability to fight back physically to deal with the consequences. The only thing that changed was her willingness to get a little psycho. She didn't look for any kind of equalizer. (such as at least planting it into their heads that they could go to jail or get expelled, which might scare a few of Antoinette's friends off)

>> No.2572513

>>2572464
She was a bit emotional at that point, you're right about that.

If she did try to scare off Nanjou's cronies though, she would need to fight Nanjou's words with her own. Who would be more scary to them, the police or Nanjou? It would be an uphill battle since it wouldn't chip away at Nanjou's grip around everyone (which was the root of the problem).

She needed help in her situation, so if she didn't have Kouhei to rely on it would've needed to be the police (or the Teachers, but I honestly wouldn't count on them if I were in her situation). But, she would need to gather poof of the harassment in order to get anywhere (since testimony would've been almost impossible to rely on).

As I said in my original post, the situation was obviously overblown to unrealistic levels in order to try to get you to feel sorry for her. But, really there weren't a whole lot of options for her in that situation.

>> No.2572589

>>2572513

She'd need to let them know that the threat was aimed personally at each and every one of her friends, that's for sure.

I don't think that getting the police on her side would be difficult. Its not like domestic abuse where things happen in private homes and out of the view of everyone else. If she went into the station several times covered in bruises that couldn't have been caused by anything other than a beating and probably weren't self-mutilation, then it'd make her case all that much more believable in court. She could call out to nearby bystanders to testify for her, as well. (most people are pussies, especially in Japan which has a culture of keeping their heads down and staying out of trouble, but there's always the chance of a good Samaritan; they could say that she gave him favors or something, but it wouldn't fit her profile, and coupled with the aforementioned evidence of 6 vs. 1 and the extent of the injuries...) Or if they attacked her near some stores or in a residential area or pretty much anyplace with people going about their business nearby... well, you should know how that works just from watching Cops.

>> No.2572605

>>2572589
That's true, I think it probably wouldn't have been entirely hopeless if she tried to go to the police. I wonder though if the police would investigate her parents at all if she came to them with bruises? She may have felt this was a possibility and avoided it so that her parents wouldn't have gotten into any legal troubles.

Its really hard to tell what would've happened in this VN since everything was played out so that Nanjou seemed like some sort of brutal dictator over the school.

>> No.2572632

>>2572605

Don't forget that police have ways of getting information out of scared witnesses, too.

They wouldn't just walk into the classroom and say "raise your hand if Aeka is telling the truth". They'd ask them away from prying ears and keep them anonymous until they have enough evidence and its time to testify in court. And if anybody that was related to the suspects worked in the police station, they'd be kept away from the case.

>> No.2572657

>>2572632
It did seem like Nanjou had some sort of super-information network going though. She was so hysterically overblown that I wouldn't be surprised if she figured out somehow that someone ratted on her.

In real life though, yeah I think her cronies would've cracked under the pressure. I cant say something realistic like that would've happened in YMK though.

>> No.2572687

>>2572657

In YMK, Antoinette's dirty cop uncle probably would have been the one put on the case despite their family ties, just to ensure that it turns out as poorly as possible for Aeka.

>> No.2572701

>>2572687

With her being branded as a trouble maker and blacklisted afterwards just to ensure that the police won't ever be willing to listen to her LIES again.

>> No.2572723

>>2572687
>>2572701

Oh please. Mizuki would have made a better villain than Nanjou. Who cares about a bunch of jobless high school kids when you can afford professionals to fuck people's shit up?

>> No.2572743

>>2572723

Mizuki wouldn't do something like that.

She's a bored girl that's tired of being locked in the cage that is responsibility and has a rebellious streak, not a malicious bitch.

>> No.2572753

>>2572743
You can only say that because the main character never pissed her off. Remember: she drugs you and kidnaps you so the two of you can go gambling and fucking while on drugs in Macao. Now imagine if she didn't like you.

:l

>> No.2572771

>>2572743

Besides, predictable end would have been predictable.

Either the money-efficient family would have given her some kind of punishment (daddy finding out is the malicious rich girl's bane, unless daddy is evil too, in which case, the little girl always stops being a problem in comparison and we'd start getting into a completely different style of story) or she'd be scared into submission by threat of the aforementioned happening.

>> No.2572790

>>2572753

The whole "I'LL MAKE YOU PAY" thing seems out of character for her to me.

She's bored and rebellious, but not malicious. (the whole "lover's suicide" thing wasn't done out of maliciousness for Kouhei so much as it was that she kinda mentally unstable at the time) She wouldn't torture a girl over something stupid.

>> No.2573170

Back to the endings/routes:
Nekoko = Escapist route with a cheesy happy and and irresponsible bad end. (Also Hiroko > Nekoko)
Aeka = White-Knight route with a meh-happy end (Aeka's still cute and deffinetly a win no matter what you end up with in life) and a status-quo bad end
Mizuki ="Adult" route with the most responsibility in the happy end, but also the worst bad end of all of them. (+ the most stupid decision for a good/bad end you have to make in every game ever)

>> No.2573534

Mizuki route = Fate
Nekoko route = UBW
Aeka route = HF

>> No.2573562

>>2573534

So you're calling Aeka a slut.

>> No.2573573

>>2573534
Aya = Ilya

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