/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

kanakp will be playable in th17.5
discuss

[Anonymous No.]

The stream was held hours ago and Twitter folks already discussed it.
How come /jp/ is so slow?

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>>25681288
>>25681397
No one cares about this shabby game. Wake me up when there's another mobage or vtuber collabs.

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>>25681288
that sucks

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>>25681288
When will she find a nice Jewish boy to settle down?

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>>25681710
I really do wish people who legitimately care about Touhou and anyone who have been here for at least 7 years to migrate somewhere out of /jp/.
There is no reason to stay on this board anymore

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>>25681288
>>25681397
>>25682112
I've been browsing /jp/ for Touhou since 2010. I was waiting for this thread to come up. Touhou is pretty much dead here huh... This saddens me greatly.

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>>25682438
Anon... someone needs to actually create the thread, you know. I was waiting for someone to make it as well.

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>>25682501
I am a passive fuck and always will be. I have never created a thread in my life.

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>>25681397
/jp/ has always been a relatively slow board

>>25682112
unfortunately every /jp/ or even every 4chan spinoff always dies out. and theres no way im going to use the /vg/ thread or /v/ for this

they really just need to make an eceleb or streamer board already, the traffic the vtuber threads bring to ONLY vtuber threads is incredibly disproportionate to the rest of the board

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>>25682112
Unfortunately there is nowhere to go, except various D*scord groups.

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>>25682112
I wish I had somewhere else to talk about Touhou

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>>25682587
I'm talking about reaction speed. An obscure imageboard I visit have traffic of few posts per day but they catch on the news faster. They already made posts about ZUN stream and 17.5 thread before the stream began.

>>25682501
Unfortunately I don't care enough about /jp/ anymore to make any thread. I only come here occasionally if I want faster traffic of important discussion, and no I won't go to /v/ or /vg/ for that either.

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>>25682607
Guess that means I'll have to get used to being treated as a squatter in my own home board of 10+ years...

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>>25682587
>>25683047
/jp/ went from 10% the posting speed of /a/ to 50% the speed of /a/ in the span of only 6 months and still increasing. This horrified me.

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>>25683370
you can tell how disproportionate it is if you sort by new threads per day too. since that hasnt gone up much. its just all concentrated in the vtuber/hololive shit

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>>25683286
Or all those traitorous fucks who left can be called out for who they are. /jp/ was made for touhou, just anything else fucking existing here doesn't mean they have to leave. Discord faggotry and /vg/ have done a lot more damage from people voluntarily leaving for far shitter places than anything meido/mods could possibly do anything about. They can't stop people from coming or going, it is a self-fulfilling destiny if everyone leaves and then goes "gee why is /jp/ so dead for touhou, after we all left /jp/ to force touhou discussion in other spots or make our own sites?" - it IS YOUR FAULT. Idiots.

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>>25683452
and the sundry /vg/ rejects the mods somehow, in their infinite wisdom, thought would be funny to throw here like /jp/ is a garbage bin for unwanted generals

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>>25683370
>>25683452
vt*ber threads rack up more posts in a hour than ALL Touhou threads combined in a month.

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>>25681288
kanako has canon boobies

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>>25683577
>They can't stop people from coming or going
Mods were literally the ones who brought all useless generals here. If it's up to the userbase and if mods were more cooperative to them than newfags then it would be easy to kick them out, but it's simply not the case.
Actually, mods have been fucking with /jp/ since ancient times and it's not like /jp/ never put up a fight. Even Moot hated this board.

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>>25683701
>>25683823
this. all the shit generals they moved out of /a/ like the seiyuu faggotry and DJT just made the board worse, piling on top of already offtopic shit like the monster girl threads. there are plenty of on topic general threads like elona, touhou gameplay, or the buyfag shit, but so much idol/vtuber and offtopic shit just bury them

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>>25682587
The speed of vtuber threads has nothing to do with the slowness of reaction here.

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>>25683890
Voice Actress thread is one thread. DJT is one thread. Virtual YouTubers have three thread despite being 80% of the board traffic.
All of them fall squarely into topics /jp/ is about, and virtual youtubers have historically been discussed here.

It's time to stop being pathetic and accept it's nobody's fault and you are just constantly searching for scapegoats and enemies. The thread that is about to die had its last reply 15 hours ago. In a natural board that wouldn't be the case, but /jp/ is fully artificial at this point, with most users and the moderation staff pampering people such as you with underserved privilege and respect, not seeing it will never be enough.

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>>25684361
fuck off crossboarder

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>>25684361
this is literally arrogance at its finest, your the type who legitimately believes your shit doesn't belong in >>>/trash/ you filthy 3DPD Idolfag wannabe.

[Anonymous No.]

talk about kanako

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>>25684361
These are cool but what about JAV and multitudes of idol and /vg/ generals?

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>>25683725
I'm pretty sure vt*ber shit outclasses most /vg/ generals combined
when is that cancer going to get excised and sent to the trash heap like it deserves?

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>>25685064
JAV is ok because it's on in 1 thread.
Idolshit is not ok, they should be concentrated in 1 thread.

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>>25685257
It won't

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>>25681288
Was this the only thing about 17.5 that was announced?

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>>25683047
>>25681397
>How come /jp/ is so slow?
>An obscure imageboard I visit have traffic of few posts per day but they catch on the news faster.
What do you expect of a board that doesn't use twitter, reddit, or any other social media, and calls ``smart'' phones "normiephones"? From where would they get news?

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>>25684361
>>25682587
>>25683370
The only fast vtuber thread is the hololive thread and if you removed that, that's only -1 thread for /jp/. The speed of one thread isn't affecting the board as a whole.

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if the hololive thread were a board, it'd in the top 10 fastest boards on the website. damn

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>>25681288
Her attacks look nice

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>>25682587
This was a "problem" long before vtuber boards were a thing. Source; I made a thread about one of ZUN's many drinking streams years and years ago and only got a handful of posts before it died. But it's only a problem in name; /jp/ doesn't need to have OMFG ITS HAPPENING ITS HAPPENING BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS types of speedy on-the-spot reactions to everything like you've said in the first part of your post which makes this even more confusing. And there's no point going into a thread that could be about something and derailing it by shitting on the existence of another thread when it's not specifically relevant either, doubly so in a thread like this that's about something that isn't meta to begin with. Just anon trying to talk about an announcement relevant to what most of us care about.

That being said, like with all newer threads on this board, I lurk for a bit to see whats up and the Hololive thread looked like hot flaming garbage around when it first started, and a month or two ago when it got a pinned thread with like 6k posts in an hour. I don't think I've ever seen a thread that isn't some internet-wide thing like the panda dying go that fast in my fucking life It even lagged my computer.. But again, irrelevant to the topic at hand and I wouldn't really mention it otherwise.

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>>25682096
I'm already married to her. Jewish btw.

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>>25683577
/jp/ was made as a quarantine. It just happened there was a lot of Touhou shitposting at the time.

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>>25686687
>doubly so in a thread like this that's about something that isn't meta to begin with. Just anon trying to talk about an announcement relevant to what most of us care about.
Are you sure? On topic or not, the proximity of posts, coupled with the lack of /jp/'s caring about the game makes it seem like these are just typical fake Touhou thread-sliding threads.

[Anonymous No.]

The elephant in the room, obviously, is that the Western Touhou fandom is shrinking fast, and is no longer big enough to sustain the previous level of activity.

It's a self-reinforcing process too. You come to the board, see that no one is posting about it, and think "Oh well, no use posting about it myself, then, since clearly no one else cares". And other lurkers think exactly the same, and in the end they just give up one by one and move on to other things.

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>>25687067
It's not just western and it's not like /jp/ is the localized place for Touhou agreed upon by everyone. But no matter how you slice it; Touhou's fucking old. It's impossible to get into and has been impossible for years, if not even arguably close to a decade. And that gaps only going to get wider and wider. This along with the fact that the massive achievements Touhou managed to make are now common-place for any given anime or gacha and that things that became a zeitgeist of otaku culture don't do it twice unless you're Nasu I guess means that the period of growth is basically dead barring some miraculous(?) revival. And that's fine too.

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>>25687180
>>25687067
>>>/v/

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>>25687180
Touhou community is pretty much still active, even on /jp/.
It's just that sometimes the lack of interest in games or official stuff can look concerning.

[Anonymous No.]

Why isn't /id/ - Idols & VTubers a thing yet? Hiro's missing out on some mad ad revenue here.

And why are pornstar generals still allowed on this blue board?

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN is too busy being a normie to bother putting any real effort into the series. The games have been stagnant since he had a kid and even before. There are tons of skilled artists, composers, and programmers who love the source material and would love to be hired to work on the main games, but no, lets just do the same old thing. To be frank, the mainline games are so dead and generic that theres nothing for fans to do with them. You can only remix and base games on the older games in the series for so long before it gets stale. There's just no new, quality material to work with.

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>>25688757
I don't know, games like LoLK and AoCF had pretty solid concept and characters. But I agree that the refusal to step away from the old form is frustrating. Last thing Touhou needs at this point is 7 new characters.

But mark my words, if ZUN ever actually does something that could possibly revive Touhou, /jp/ will be filled with howls that he "sold out".

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>>25688757
LoLK is one of the best games he's ever put out

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If the mods and jannies did their fucking job right we would be able to actually talk about Touhou. They enable shitposters like Sally or whatever that one asshole is, hell one of them probably IS him.
Idolshit is killing Touhou discussion.

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>>25688926
>But mark my words, if ZUN ever actually does something that could possibly revive Touhou, /jp/ will be filled with howls that he "sold out".

lets recall what projects ZUN did with others so far
2 mobile games
some merchandise crossover with big companies
some beer that will have his name on it

if those arent selling out then i dont know what being a sellout means

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>>25688757
The game has been "stagnant" since day 1. ZUN never intended to let anyone else but him involved in mainline games from the start and never will.
Also, consider that the "Touhou boom" exploded around MoF release which was already a 10th installment. The format of the game has nothing to do with popularity.

>There's just no new, quality material to work with
I disagree. People made a lot of content from newer games.
They are just not shoved in your face or you're simply not looking for it because you already consider them "bad" based on your opinion.

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>>25689858
There's a third mobile game on the way with fucking DeNA of all companies.

And it's pretty apparent Sponsor X, the company funding Touhou Station, IS DeNA.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't look at idol and vtuber generals and don't care for them, but it's incredibly fucking naive to seriously think that them going away will magically make all the Touhou threads in this board suddenly get a big boost in speed and activity.

[Anonymous No.]

can you all shut the fuck up and talk about how Yamame now has canon spider legs?

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>>25689938
>ZUN never intended to let anyone else but him involved in mainline games from the start and never will.
The only thing mainline games are good for at this point is music, and even that's debatable.

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>>25690136
Any screenshots? I'm glad she showed up again.

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>>25690136
Spider legs are the new tengu wings.

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>>25690136
...she didn't have spider legs?

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>>25690206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjfGaILBs48

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>>25690039
they won't, obviously. I just want the faggots gone

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>>25690212
I was literally typing just this.
"But ZUN never drew Yamame with spider legs, he only drew her without spider legs, this means he doesn't have spider legs. Return to /v/"

[Anonymous No.]

kanako has snake tail instead of legs.

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>>25690230
rewatch it dude, she has little spider legs coming out her back

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>>25690266
Some people still cant grasp that youkai can manipulate their appearance. Its such a basic bitch ability in folklore, I wouldnt be surprised if every youkai in Touhou can do it to some extent.

[Anonymous No.]

In b4 this game is kind of like POFV where every character in the game is playable and has their own story.

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>>25690266
Since Yamame is a spider, her normal legs are also spider legs.

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>>25690601
look at the 17.5 footage, you can see her normal legs with shoes on

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>>25690634
What is that blue thing under the skirt?

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>>25690740
It's just the shadow/darker shading from her dress.
You can see her right sock is darker than the left.

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>>25690242
Very cool that you're gonna be able to play as Kanako, who would've ever guessed?
Too bad the game doesn't look very fun.

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>>25690889
Still doesn't look like it's anywhere near finished either.

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>>25690601
And since Orin is a cat, she has 2 pairs of cat ears!

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>>25690634
The ''spider legs'' here looks like ribbons, it's a cool design.

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>>25690889
17.5 somehow looks like a jankier version of Mystical Chain, which would be bad enough 10 years ago but now with more impressive looking fangames like Luna Nights and Gensokyo Night Festival it seriously pales.
It's a shame too. With ZUN having embraced digital distribution, this game featuring mostly older/established characters, and also just being part of a much more popular genre, it feels like it'd be a great opportunity to get 2hu back in people's minds. But so far it looks really weak.

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>>25688757
>but no, lets just do the same old thing. To be frank, the mainline games are so dead and generic that theres nothing for fans to do with them. You can only remix and base games on the older games in the series for so long before it gets stale. There's just no new, quality material to work with
All he ever cares about (since 7) is religion and seasons. When I saw this in WBaWC, I just about screamed because he's trying to hype up another goddamn religious war yeah i know i posted an ending it's for my point

There's a reason people love 6 so much, it's about something interesting. It's not about flowers, it's not about nature, it's not about philosophy. It's about someone just causing a scene plain and simple. All the PC-98 games are like that too and honestly, if people would stop pretending they don't exist, they would find that the plots of those games are way better than most everything we've got in the past decade. EoSD really is an honorary PC-98 game if you look at its plot and gameplay.

Basically my point is that ZUN has been taking it way too easy and no one wants a story about boring, unmemorable people.

[Anonymous No.]

guys pheraphs......touhou .............is not good..................

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>>25691273
>EoSD
>PC-98
Strong candidate for the worst post of the month right here.

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>>25691273
>it's about something interesting.
>It's about someone just causing a scene plain and simple

That doesn't add up.
What's so interesting about vampire who just want to walk out while we fight random disconnected characters that's barely fleshed out even later on?

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>>25691273
People love 6 because it's the first Windows one and because the writing is so vague that most potential fanon doesn't contradict it. Let's not pretend "Remilia makes mist" or the plot of PC-98 games besides Mystic Square are anything interesting.

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>>25689938
The games were steadily improving execution wise up until around MoF or, arguably, until a bit later. Taking the entirety of the game beyond the "dodge bullets" gameplay loop, the game execution has historically not been as stagnant as it is now.

Tons of talented people still enjoy the Touhou setting, but for some reason they seem to hover around UFO and previous installments for their inspiration. Why is this?

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>>25691377
hey, take it easy!!

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>>25691509
They got older.

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>>25691509
Because that's how fandom ends up working in Japan for works that are a big part of doujin culture. Parts of the work that get a lot of fan-content expose people to said work, and they in turn end up making fan-content based on the parts of the work that they were exposed to because those part are what got them "into" said work, leading to the popular stuff keep being popular due to simply familiarity and nothing more.

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>>25691509
>Tons of talented people still enjoy the Touhou setting, but for some reason they seem to hover around UFO and previous installments for their inspiration. Why is this?

Because they have existed way longer while the later games need more time to reach the same amount of content, while at the same older cast are good enough that people don't abandon them?
But saying people absolutely don't care about newer cast is wrong. They are simply overwhelmed, but people catch on to them eventually, especially since ZUN also give them considerable attention in canon works.

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>>25691273
>All he ever cares about (since 7) is religion
I nearly stopped caring for touhou altogether when 13 came out. Fuck this religious war bullshit it's the most boring thing ZUN could've focused the games on. I loved 14 and 15 for being a fucking change of pace for once.

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully this gets Kanako a little more love from the community, same with Yamame.

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>>25690250
You seem to have started to believe the silly notion that /jp/ is your personal board.

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>>25691666
>for once
So, after... two games (12 and 13)?

Also 14 doesn't even have an actual story.

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't care about eastern folklore and spiritualism as theming, why are you even into Touhou to begin with?

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>>25691722
Same, we've only been seeing Kanako interact with the same few characters in the mangas. If Keiki shows up I want to see them interact. Would be interesting.
>>25691756
Porn? That's why most people still like EoSD at this point, it's a basic game with a basic story.

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>>25691736
And 10 and 13.5 and ZUN is going to return to this garbage after 17 mark my words. We'll never be free from byakuren and miko. Oh and 17.5 features playable Kanako? Get ready for another religious conflict.

>Also 14 doesn't even have an actual story.
I don't care at this point. I'll eat ZUN's shit if it doesn't smell like a religious war.

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>>25691509
>Taking the entirety of the game beyond the "dodge bullets" gameplay loop

Touhou 6-10 were also mostly about dodging bullets. What are you talking about?
Sure we got something like PoFV and photography games, but in current gen we also got ISC and VD (though the later is admittedly disaster).

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>>25691809
>I'll eat ZUN's shit
Well you sure sound like an average EoSDfag.

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>>25688757
Loads of people, including myself, love the latest three mainline games. VD isn't really favored by anyone but that's about it. I imagine you're one of them shitters who doesn't keep up with the series but shittalks it all the same

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>>25691756
>If you don't care about eastern folklore and spiritualism as theming, why are you even into Touhou to begin with?
I just like Zun's style, music and the mood of the games. It's not like he's a great storyteller but he has a certain aesthetic sense.

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>>25691809
>We'll never be free from byakuren and miko
Is that a bad thing? Miko in particular is one of the few characters in canon Touhou that comes close to being more than two-dimensional at best.

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>>25691837
I don't like EoSD and hate it's cast of characters. Pick another boogeyman you obsessed faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25691809
There's gonna be prophet from Zoroastrianism cult and you're gonna like it.

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>>25691273
>>25691666
are you people joking or what are you even fucking on about

It may have been called a "war", but really that was practically in irony. The eventual "war" itself (HM) was a show for fuck's sake. While 12 led to 13, 12 and 13 actually have nothing to do with each other, and really neither have anything to do with HM.

I did get into Touhou years after this "arc" had been completed so maybe I'm missing context, but when I went through everything I got no sense of hyping up conflict and all sense that it was more of a mockery nobody took seriously, and then eventually an incident with a mask youkai.

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>>25691864
Miko a shit.

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>>25691809
There are only 2 games that actually have to do with religious conflict (not MoF because that's really just about new arrivals, not HM because that's really about Kokoro) so what in fuck are you on

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>>25691867
If you characterize yourself like a raving and unreasonable idiot, why are you offended when someone assumes you are such?

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>>25691273
I'd be excited if anything was going to happen in this religious war, but it's going to be like everything else in touhou where nothing happens by the end because ZUN is allergic to doing anything with his characters and has to leave everyone in the status quo

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>>25691924
I'm offended now? I'm just telling you to stop with the EoSD obsession because I don't care about this game in the slightest.

>>25691917
>There are only 2 games that actually have to do with religious conflict
For some reason you conveniently failed to mention all the written works, very suspicious.

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>>25691756
People thought EoSD alone is what defines Touhou and still seething that the rest of the games are going in different direction.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought 14-16 were all inspired and good games. 17 was okay.

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>>25691960
You mean SoPM which is mostly concerned with human/youkai politics in general and literally just that because FS, Fairies, and WaHH have nothing at all to do with religion?

Alright. Also I'm not the person who said you were obsessed with EoSD, I'm just someone else noting that you act the same sort of "I just want the old thing" way, so it shouldn't surprise you to be called out for it.

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>>25691925
Yeah I remember how ULiL set up the occult orbs and nothing came out of that oh wait no that led to a Lunarian invasion, lethal danmaku, and a battle in the world of dreams. Also a pair of scam-twins

The funny thing is that in the last several Touhou entries there were fairly major changes in several regards. The funnier thing is that that's kind of always been the case (6, 7, 8, 10. 11. 12. and 13 all led to permanent, heavy changes; ULiL/15, 16, and 17 as well)

[Anonymous No.]

PLAYABLE KANAKO!!! FINALLY, HAD WANTED THIS FOR ETERNITY! YAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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>>25692066
I'm really happy for you anon, I know how it feels.

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>>25692066
Kanakobros... we're finally winning

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>>25692179
>>25692066
I hope she does her best!

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>>25681288
Kanako have two THREADS!!!
>>25629345
Are people finally realizing the beauty and greatest that is Yasaka Kanako

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>>25691821
You have to go back.

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>>25692707
What?

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>>25692686
I was hoping this to be more about 17.5 thread but okay

[Anonymous No.]

we should have more general touhou threads instead of just making them with one character in mind and also i hate this shit im depressed

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>>25681288
Actually that’s fine

If 17.5 is gonna be fun then I’m all for it helping kanakp become popular again

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>>25693131
Are you ok anon? wanna talk about what bother you?

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>>25691848
I think he just have high demand for the series, but my problem is when people like him instantly think the whole fandom share his sentiment.
The new characters actually get considerable amount of attention and fanworks. People simply don't abandon the older ones so their accumulated presence doesn't go away and you end up need to dig around beyond the surface to get contents of newer characters.
Sure they will probably never hold a candle to established popular cast but there aren't so much void in their presence that it marks the death of the series.

[Anonymous No.]

Who could be the stage 3 boss on Kanakp's route, assuming it's not Yuugi?

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>>25693170
Nothing’s bothering me, but I’m happy for more good 2hu news even if I have teetered away from it. 17 was okay and I didn’t enjoy it as much as I would’ve hoped

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>>25681288
okay

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>>25693323
Maybe Okuu, if ZUN suddenly remembers the whole Kanako giving Okuu her powers thing.

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>>25691986
I like 17 for the most part except spell card design, which ironically makes it my most playable game along with 4 for simplicity
OST and atmosphere are pretty unique and memorable, and the animal realm is a fun group. I'm looking forward to 17.5 mostly for the eagle boss

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>>25690136
I want to know if those really are legs or just ribbons as part of her dress. Anyway it's fucking cute.

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>>25687180
Bullshit. I only got into 2hu recently. It's easy to get into no matter when you do it because there's no continual story, just an expanding roster of characters that exist (most of which don't ever get used more than once anyway).

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>>25694039
8 legs
7 vaginas
imagine

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>>25681397
/jp/ is a slow board. It takes 2 days to archive a thread.
I didn't even know there was a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Sanae...

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>>25681710
consume cyanide

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>>25694039
Yamame's popularity will skyrocket just from this.

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>>25691273
secondaries like you deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck yeah, this should be neat.

>>25682587
Splitting off the board would be nice but it wouldn't make 2hu threads any less sleepy.

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>>25683890
Sometimes I wonder if we're the problem. DJT on /a/ was surprisingly good, but DJT here is just a bunch of shitposting morons. But maybe it's more complicated than that, DJT on /a/ was so fucking long ago that 4chan's userbase has honestly changed since back then.

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>>25694426
6 legs, two of her appendages are arms.

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>>25694426
h-how gay would it be to share Yamame with 8 other anons, haha....

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>>25695034
I hope so, I'm loving this cast.

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>>25696336
It would be 1723 gay.

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>>25694039
I was going to complain that Tasofro gets to make official games with ZUN while better devs don't, but I gotta admit Tasofro's sprites are always goddamn cute.

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>>25696832
>>25696856
damn, is chasing the trend the only way to get decent exposure in any creative medium?

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>>25697669
yes.

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>>25697669
I thought it was obvious by now.

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>>25681288
she has the worst final boss theme

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>>25698020
nah

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>>25698059
yah

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>>25698070
you went too far

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Touhou hasn't been worth caring about for 10 years.

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>>25698020
keener exist, she got 2 and both suck cock.

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>>25697669
I'd be more concerned if there was no fanart celebrating such an occasion. People have been drawing commemorative images of characters becoming (or re-becoming) playable for as long as I can remember.

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>>25697669
I think it's just artists who are legitimately excited? In the big scheme of things this is just a blip and won't get them more noticed, if they were chasing the trend they'd be doing F/GO porn instead

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>>25697669
I don't think keeping up and getting excited with news is "chasing the trend". Second pic's artist is a Suwako and Kanako fan also

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>>25693268
>instantly think the whole fandom share his sentiment
Actually I was curious to see what the sentiment was like now. People have been saying Touhou has been dying in some form for almost as long as I've played it.

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>>25699686
Doomposting is /jp/ culture.
It's a good thing the end will never happen in the foreseeable future, as much as they want it to.

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>>25699686
The fandom is still active, it's just not as explosive and widespread like it was in 2009-2012. People who claim Touhou is dead often comparing it to the booming era which actually isn't as good and genuine as people think.
If it were to happen now, it will certainly mangled with normalfaggotry that has been enveloping the internet for years now and even Touhou already touched that sphere in some way. I surely don't want a second (or third) Touhou boom.

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>>25699880
my favorite segment of the stream

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>>25699686
Frankly speaking Touhou is doing better than ever and that is EXTREMELY obvious.

More fangames than ever, Reitaisai still going strong, several ongoing works, ZUN's still making games and releases them on steam now to excellent reception, Touhou has its own magazine, Touhou has its own doujin-centric website, there's still lots of music, kids know about Touhou and are getting into it young...

All this and it's easier than ever to read and buy official materials, meaning despite fanart still being extremely prominent, unlike in the past being up to date and red up on canon is a rather simple prospect.

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and following that >>25701061 RE this indeed the "booming era" was not actually necessarily a good thing. Much more meme heavy, much less adherence and care for canon, much more frivolous bullshit

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>>25701079
goddamn precious

I miss when I was teaching a pair of kids who knew about touhou ;_;

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>>25701129
Some /jp/sies don't realize that the eastern fandom isn't dying, the western fandom is. Much less doujins are being scanned, both h and non-h, there are less notable translators than before, and generally less... stuff. The only remotely good thing I've seen the western part of Touhou do these past few years is those gamejams, which I haven't really got into either.
Akatsuki Records and Shinra-Bansho are basically the new Iosys and Beatmario in terms of their popularity way back then, and while some talented people have mostly left the Touhou scene, there are new talented people that took their place.
The biggest loss I'd say is KamS, there's probably no one else that could rival his surreal stuff.
>>25701079
Context? Is it a drawing of a 6 year old or something?

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>>25695211
It is wise to learn a word's definition before using it.

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>>25701420
That is a 6th grader's drawing (elementary school). So, kid's likely 10 or so.

And I'm not sure if it's exactly "dying" in the west. I'm actually seeing it a bit more often on youtube, all materials DO get translated quickly... It's a bother that there is only one prominent (and, honestly, I've gotta say problematic) translator for Touhou stuff nowadays, but while Clarste shits up about politics and misinfo on his tumblr, his translations are totally okay and he keeps that separate. Even the doujinshi from that Touhou website are getting translated.

While things are getting scanned less, it's also LESS (though unfortunately not completely un-) necessary for that anyway what with DLSite and Booth being used more often. The annoying thing is that many artists still ONLY want to release physical. Musical artists too, despite having digital options.

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>>25701420
Yeah, a segment where they look at fanart submission from elementary students, 1st to 6th graders
Also with game jam, the one this year has attention from the eastern side too. ZUN and guests tried out a few of those games on the stream

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>>25701533
>misinfo
this probably sounds like rumor mongering but a lot of asks to him end up with him giving his interpretations or incorrect statements about this or that. Then again that opinion is based on years ago maybe he's gotten better.

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>>25701535
>1st to 6th graders
Why are even Japanese toddlers so good at drawing? It's not faaaaair

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>>25701535
Is that art from a kid as well?
if so, jesus fucking shit. Hope he/she makes them as long as he/she can.
>>25701533
Things don't really get translated as fast as they used to be. This is ESPECIALLY true for fangames, which is pretty surprising considering a lot of fangames are now on Steam so you'd expect there to be more.

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>>25701420
>The biggest loss I'd say is KamS, there's probably no one else that could rival his surreal stuff.
Don't even talk about that FACKING JUDAS that jumped into the b*tefag fad when it became popular then abandoned it when it started declining and jumped into the F*te fad.

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>>25701765
Junior high 1st grade, so 12 years old

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>>25701765
>Things don't really get translated as fast as they used to be. This is ESPECIALLY true for fangames, which is pretty surprising considering a lot of fangames are now on Steam so you'd expect there to be more.
that things get translated at all is a blessing. I also don't know if it's true that less fangames are translated nowadays, I'm pretty sure the opposite is true.

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It's good that the western 'communities' are dying anyway since those mostly revolve around reddit and discord nowadays. All that really matters is that the Japanese 2hu scene is still alive and well (it is).

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>>25701839
A lot of creators did it, not just KamS. He was probably just caught up in the wave like a lot of people were, not realizing that Touhou would outlive pretty much all of it. I don't really blame them too much for it, a lot of japanese were probably also like /jp/ doomposting about 2hu's demise and some circles were caught up in it.
Also there's not really a lot of surreal content to be made with Fate (especially the modern one), and pretty much zero with Kancolle. That's his downfall right there.
Koto Inari hasn't made many 2hu related stuff since 3rd eye, and KamS hasn't made... anything I'm pretty sure for a long time.
I just want my surrealhus that's not kanmari or dinos.

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>>25702003
These Judases that jumped into the g*cha bandwagons don't deserve any revival. When ZUN was at the garden of Gethsemane, KamS turned his back on him for 30 pieces of DMM cash or whatever's the fake currency K*ncolle uses.

>>25702003
>Koto Inari
The difference is that Koto Inari started doing mostly original stuff or drawing fanart of things he actually likes, not jumping into g*cha fads for a quick buck.

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>>25702003
Koto Inari is making original stuff now, probably illustrations for classic western-esque novel. It's actually pretty interesting.

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>>25701871
There's less fan translations of games but a lot of fangames are releasing with translations because they realized there's a surprisingly big market in the west (because the fandom is quiet but not dying)

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>>25702365
Pretty sure most of his stuff is from Sherlock, specifically the Benedict Cummybatch one.

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>>25702000
I don't use them but are those really much worse than twitter-centered eastern one?

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>>25704948
You can get a taste of them without even leaving /jp/. It's that sort of community the mods have been trying their damndest to transplant here from /v/, /vg/ and /a/ by bringing all these generals here. I still see people calling them 'newfags'. But the implication is that they'll eventually become oldfags after lurking a bit. No, these people are just drifters of the mainstream western 'ironic weeb' type, carrying with them their out of place memes they spout everywhere they go.

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>>25702400
it still kind of sucks for older games that are never going to get re-released on other platforms. Stuff like the Gyakuten Touhou games will probably never see a new translation because not only is the interest not there, the tools that were used to translate them in the first place seem to be lost to time

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>>25682438
2010 that’s cute been here since 2007 and finally Kanako gets more love she deserves but yeah majority of /jp/ is crossboarders to bullshit Vtubing Cucklords

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kanako is slute now

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>>25706864
no...

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>>25701535
Kid's making ZUN look like a chump

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>>25697669
Welcome to real life in the world of an artist.

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>>25701758
I was able to draw like that by the time I was in middle school.
You just didn't try.

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>>25697669
Did it ever cross your mind that these artists are just excited fans?

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>>25713392
>excited fans
I guess being excited means ditching it the moment something else becomes popular.

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>>25713419
So why aren't they just drawing FGO sluts?
I actually followed these artists. You can't be more presumptuous.

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>>25710994
Kids making ZUN look like a champ because despite drawing like shit, his characters are plastered all over all kinds of merchandise, they're recognized and beloved by millions of fans globally, he's made absolutely stupid boatloads of money, and after twenty years better artists are still falling over themselves to draw his characters.

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>>25701152
And also more trannies. God I hate tumblr

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>>25701420
>>25719460
>The only remotely good thing I've seen the western part of Touhou do these past few years is those gamejams,

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>>25720098
Burn it with fire

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>>25720098
This is why I’ve given up on the western front

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>>25720098
The organizers being retarded doesn't mean its a bad event.

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>>25720098
Are the trannies actual fans or are they pushing their BS into the the Touhou fanbase for their own gain?

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>>25720098
The thing is the Japs just started doing the same thing too, whether it's inspired by this or not.
It's under the #東方ゲームジャム tag. They just posted some games around yesterday.

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>>25720614
Pushing bs. Do NOT try talking with them about Touhou, they do not actually care about it and get angry when you point out many uncomfortable (to them) truths, such as the fact that the only relationships in the series are all straight

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>>25681288
YEEES! TOUHOU IS COMING HOME, LADS!

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>>25720780
I expected as such. "People" like them almost universally don't actually care about the thing they infiltrate, and just want to subvert it, like what happened to a lot of tabletop games.

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>>25720780
>such as the fact that the only relationships in the series are all straight
What relationships?

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>>25720892
I believe Junko had a husband.

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>>25720949
Toyohime and Yorihime both had husbands. I forgot if Eirin had one as well. Also Suwako.

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>>25720780
The person organizing the Touhou game jams almost certainly cares a great deal about Touhou given that it takes a great deal of effort to organize and is directly in the spirit of what ZUN wanted to encourage.

I know you want to live in a world where everyone who disagrees with you politically can't be a "real fan" of your favorite thing but that's mostly just wishful thinking for retards. Might as well shout that Clarste doesn't "actually care" about Touhou.

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>>25720683
This year the official news site helps organize it, so nips submits their games too. At least this year's theme is just summer and WBaWC
https://touhougamejam2020.web.app/

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>>25720780
I had the lovely encounter of talking to one, they claimed Touhou was feminist friendly because there's no pedophilia unlike most anime games or something like that. Like if your only reason of getting into some game franchise is because the all female cast is wearing modest clothes that's pretty sad.
Also their favorite Touhou was Cirno and their icon was some popular lolicon artist I forgot the name of because of course.

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Told people when the game was first revealed that the sprites and animations are a massive downgrade from their previous games and people defended it by saying the game was still super early. Now it's 100 years later and there is finally more gameplay footage out and it still doesn't look any better.

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>>25720997
>Toyohime and Yorihime both had husbands
Has. Yorihime actually married Toyohime's son (so, she married her nephew)

Eirin, as far as we know, is unmarried. Suwako had children indeed. Seiga was married.

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>>25720614
It's literal bullshit
Line them up in front of a firing squad and execute them.

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>>25721041
>The person organizing the Touhou game jams almost certainly cares a great deal about Touhou given that it takes a great deal of effort to organize and is directly in the spirit of what ZUN wanted to encourage.
Oh don't be fucking stupid. It does not take a lot of effort to "organize" a game jam, especially online all you have to do is say it's happening.

You fucking moron, are you actually going to pretend there aren't a crap ton of "fans" who don't engage with any official material and just prattle on about fanon shit. Hence: LGBT pushing for a series where that is not a theme. Shit like saying everyone is gay in Gensokyo based on nothing canonical. It's because they vaguely know of Touhou. They know faces and some basic details and make up the rest. Dude, fuck off, this is a poison that has been festering forever

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>>25721997
bear in mind I actually do like yuri. I read it, I write it, I enjoy it. My issue is when people claim the series itself unequivocally supports it and the problem with that isn't "politics" it's "not giving a shit about authorial intent".

Touhou is absolutely political and you can see this time and again in many of ZUN's works. If you want to talk about politics in Touhou, talk about the moon, Aya's fake news, how Gensokyo is changing its race relations. If you want to talk about yuri or trans or whatever, the actual series doesn't have any sort of push for that. Thus, I think it'd be best to just say "Eh, I like yuri but touhou is not yuri" or "I like these themes and playing around with them in a Touhou context, but the series doesn't really have that stuff". That's not what these sorts of people say, and they're extremely obnoxious, aggressive, and rude about their misinformation on top of that.

Which sucks. These are the sorts of people that made me ignore Touhou for years because I really thought it was something that it was not, because they lie/are delusional

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>>25721055
>no pedophilia
Ha...

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>>25721150
Did you play it or

Because most people who've played it, including myself, understood why the sprites animate as they do

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>>25722078
Don't tell me you're gonna pull a Clarste and say that ZUN is pro-immigration because of the way he's written Gensokyo...
>>25722084
If only they knew how horny we really are.

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>>25722130
>ZUN is pro-immigration because of the way he's written Gensokyo
ZUN has basically said Gensokyo is America (and the moon's China or something) and through Hecatia he explained the benefits of immigration in AFiEU. Whether you agree with that or not is your own choice.

ZUN's definitely liberal. I think it's quite obvious he doesn't mind gay stuff and trans stuff either, seeing as there have been works featuring such for as long as Touhou's been popular. Nonetheless, he never brings any such things into the actual series. Really, he doesn't bring in romance at all for what it's worth. I'm fairly hardline with any IP in that, if the work doesn't seem to have this or that leaning, I don't try to bullshit or contrive a theory as to how it actually DOES have those leanings. I don't see the point, and think it's disrespectful.

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>>25681288
Gross granny!!!

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>>25721997
>Oh don't be fucking stupid. It does not take a lot of effort to "organize" a game jam, especially online all you have to do is say it's happening.
Sounds like someone who's never organized anything online in their life. Getting people to do literally anything is like herding cats. If you throw a party without laying the groundwork nobody is going to show up.

>You fucking moron, are you actually going to pretend there aren't a crap ton of "fans" who don't engage with any official material
Way to move the goalposts, shit-for-brains. Of course retarded fans exist. Retarded fans exist everywhere, including Japan and /jp/. You went beyond claiming that there are retarded fans out there: you claimed, as a universal rule, that the "trannies" don't actually care about Touhou and don't engage with official material, which is just dumb as shit on its face because people like Clarste (the king of the trannies or whatever the fuck it is he does) spend all day dealing with official material so that retards downstream can eat it up.

>Shit like saying everyone is gay in Gensokyo based on nothing canonical.
"Everyone is gay in Gensokyo" is a meme that's been around in /jp/ for over twelve years and at least fourteen years before that in /a/. The "trannies" didn't invent it. It's a literal fucking joke that you've now twisted into culture war bullshit.

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>>25722383
>Sounds like someone who's never organized anything online in their life. Getting people to do literally anything is like herding cats. If you throw a party without laying the groundwork nobody is going to show up.
I've literally organized contests and made games before. Certainly "actually getting participants" is its own challenge but that's advertising, not "organization". The most high effort thing you don't even need to do would be setting up a place for people to upload their projects, and perhaps more, however in the age of hash tags you can literally just ask people to post a hashtag with their completed project to show solidarity with the event, and give a deadline. It is not a difficult thing. Are you 12?

>Way to move the goalposts
Ahhh, using terms incorrectly, I see where this is going. I didn't move anything. In the first place you replied to me replying to someone else asking about pushing views, to which I referred to canon. Then I elaborated. My goalpost is stuck in the sand. Pic related, done nigga. Fuckin have a nice day

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Isn't it funny how you bring up a certain person in a fandom and someone who types and holds similar opinions to that person shows up in the thread?

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>>25722383
>"Everyone is gay in Gensokyo" is a meme that's been around in /jp/ for over twelve years and at least fourteen years before that in /a/.
That doesn't contradict what was said, that this has been said for years and eventually adopted as truth, when the point was "fanon bad". I think that's what this post is about >>25701152
>the "booming era" was not actually necessarily a good thing. Much more meme heavy, much less adherence and care for canon, much more frivolous bullshit

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>>25722458
He's clearly an off-boarder or whatever at the very least. Funny enough, the claim that these people universally don't care is indeed based on my experiences of people not giving a shit, not caring, and harassing me for bringing up canon, off of /jp/ and even on it. People like that are shit, why should they have any respect when they don't respect the work in the first place?

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>>25722449
>Certainly "actually getting participants" is its own challenge but that's advertising, not "organization".
They do have a place to upload game submissions, and advertising is still work. The Air Reitaisais were events that didn't technically require anything to do anything but people still put in effort getting the word out. It's not trivial to get people to give a shit, unless the contests you organized were so great that people started knocking at your door without you trying.

>Then I elaborated. My goalpost is stuck in the sand.
"Are the trannies actual fans?"
"No."

>>25722489
There's nothing wrong with memes. ZUN is perfectly A-OK with memes, he's sat down and had drinks with some of the biggest meme shitters in the entire Touhou community. He doesn't actually give a shit if you meme around unless you try to convince people it's canon in all seriousness and nobody actually does that.

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>>25722587
I've been posting in /jp/ for over ten years, which is longer than most people in this thread even if you might be an ultraveteran shitter exception.

>People like that are shit, why should they have any respect when they don't respect the work in the first place?
It's because people like you are always uptight shitheads who think they're god's gift to the Touhou fandom for "respecting the work," when what you call "respecting the work" consists entirely on shitting on fans who have the temerity to like things that are non-canon even when ZUN himself is fine with it.

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>>25722595
>nobody actually does that.
MANY people do that. If you actually want to see it, engage with those people.

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>>25722626
>consists entirely on shitting on fans who have the temerity to like things that are non-canon even when ZUN himself is fine with it.
You can't read. If you don't want to read, don't reply to me.

>>25722078
>I actually do like yuri. I read it, I write it, I enjoy it
>>25722209
>ZUN's definitely liberal. I think it's quite obvious he doesn't mind gay stuff and trans stuff either, seeing as there have been works featuring such for as long as Touhou's been popular. Nonetheless, he never brings any such things into the actual series. Really, he doesn't bring in romance at all for what it's worth. I'm fairly hardline with any IP in that, if the work doesn't seem to have this or that leaning, I don't try to bullshit or contrive a theory as to how it actually DOES have those leanings. I don't see the point, and think it's disrespectful.

If assholes didn't want my opinion of them to be negative they wouldn't act like assholes. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Trannies, gays, Aya-has-no-wings posters, faggots all who don't give a shit about the material and do indeed lie about how it is exist, exist in large quantities, and get aggressively upset if you so much as counter their claims with literal facts. If you act like a jerk, nobody has any obligation to not treat you like one.

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>>25722694
>You can't read.
It's a perfectly accurate description of the retarded shit you're constantly pulling.

>If assholes didn't want my opinion of them to be negative they wouldn't act like assholes.
How did anything in either of the posts you quoted there constitute "acting like an asshole", you sensitive little shithead?

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>>25722757
he's quoting his own posts you fucking moron

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>>25722595
>They do have a place to upload game submissions, and advertising is still work. The Air Reitaisais were events that didn't technically require anything to do anything but people still put in effort getting the word out. It's not trivial to get people to give a shit, unless the contests you organized were so great that people started knocking at your door without you trying.
You can be passionate about "Touhou" and indeed not be an actual fan of it. See: Cookie in all its offensive glory. If you like the idea of Touhou, there's plenty and more to work with. If you don't care about the official material then yes, you are not a real fan of the series. That should be really obvious, so obvious it needn't be said. If you only want X, Y, or Z there's tons of it for you. If you only want porn you can have only porn, if you only want the character designs in bs situations there's Cookie, if you want gay stuff there's scads of it

all fanworks. And you can ignore the core entirely if you want. And get angry if people bring it up

>>25722757
Oh man you made me lol, fuck you. Just because I'm calling someone an asshole doesn't mean I got offended. Or are you saying YOU'RE offended right now? You're throwing out a lot of insults. Are you "over sensitive"? Again if you don't know what I'm talking about fuck off. Go tell someone in /u/ that there's no canon gay stuff and see how that goes. Go confront someone on twitter about it, it never goes well. If even one of my experiences had been reasonable, don't you think I'd say so? It's no conspiracy I'm claiming.

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What the fuck happened in this thread

Anyways, playable Kanako should be entertaining, especially considering how well it went last time she messed around underground.

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>>25722856
It started off wrong, to be fair. Touhou doomposting and all that

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>>25722856
>especially considering how well it went last time she messed around underground.
That's right, Kanako is a genius that can do anything she puts her mind to!

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>>25722836
>If you like the idea of Touhou, there's plenty and more to work with. If you don't care about the official material then yes, you are not a real fan of the series.
And the vast majority of people who enjoy secondary work also enjoy the primary work, such as, say, ZUN, and half the people he collaborates with.

>>25722836
>You're throwing out a lot of insults.
You throw out plenty yourself but when other people do it it's somehow beyond the pale. Glad to see the kind of honest standards you hold in discussions.

>Go tell someone in /u/ that there's no canon gay stuff and see how that goes.
The /u/ archive is full of /u/-people talking very candidly about how there is no canon yuri in Touhou. It sounds more like you're specifically seeking out the most mentally ill retards you can find so you can pretend they're representative of t3h gays.

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kanako is old hag and uggo. this is now a yamame thread

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>>25723126
I'm happy for this itty bitty spider!

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>>25722084
You are a fool if you don’t expect that in any japanese/asian IP imo.

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>>25721055
>Also their favorite Touhou was Cirno and their icon was some popular lolicon artist
Heh, you've no idea how common it is for closet pedos to (publicly) hold opinions like that. Too bad they can't just be honest with themselves. Must be a depressing existence, denying yourself.

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The only gay touhou is Alice.

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>>25720614
Take a wild guess.

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>>25721055
>Like if your only reason of getting into some game franchise is because the all female cast is wearing modest clothes that's pretty sad.
I'm not saying it's my entire reason for liking Touhou but it's kind of a big plus for me (or rather for not deliberately using the characters specifically to excite the male audience. ZUN has drawn characters with a bit more revealing clothes already).
Still, I definitely won't associate it with feminism or whatever movement run by obnoxious mouthbreather who like to twist everything for their agenda or forced identity.

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>>25722856
Doesn’t kanakp have machinery in her abilities? I forgot what she can do

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>>25727004
Cause winds and rain

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>>25727004
She's trying to spin herself as a technological progress god now so when gensokyo inevitably makes advancements she won't be tossed aside, like how the outside world tossed aside religious belief and gods.

iircI think it's just the cold fusion attempt in WaHH and probably the ropeway too.

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>>25727291
That naivete is pretty cute, for a BBA

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>>25728088
I think it's a big brain move, but she needs to work more on how to execute it.

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>>25728648
Feeding the yatagarasu to a random hell crow was also a big brain move and yet here we are.

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>>25728670
To be fair, that led to a lot of problems but most of them didn't even bother the Moriya shrine, since the poverty miko deals with them. Kanako deserves some credit for that scheme.

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>>25728670
>yet here we are.
What? It's a success.
You can say Reimu handling the incident was probably part of the plan.

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I wonder if TH18 will be Reimu/Marisa/Sanae again

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>>25729309
Alice/Shinki/Yumeko

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>>25729309
I'd be willing to bet money on Sanae since Kanako is in TH17.5. I can imagine Kanako finding something fishy in TH17.5 and sending Sanae to go solve TH18's incident because Kanako thinks there's a connection or something.
My personal hope is for Byakuren (as usual) to make it in TH18, but I'm already lucky enough she was in HM/ULiL/AoCF. Plus, I don't think it's possible to get Byakuren playable without Miko since she's bundled with Miko, unfortunately.

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>>25729309
Probably Sakuya.
TH18 should be the start of a new gen: rise of technology inventors ft. loli Tesla

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>>25729309
Probably with Sakuya but I hope for Orin.
Also 17.5 could have Satori, Orin, Murasa, Shou too.

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>>25720098
to be fair that year we got this kutaka fan game and it honestly wasn't terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDuqixccT4A
if I remember correctly, an anon from here or /v/ developed it and snuck in stuff like your daily dose

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>>25731233
That voice is amazing, but that one youtuber OC isn't necessary. I doubt he's from 4chan.

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>>25731233
>to be fair that year we got this kutaka fan game and it honestly wasn't terrible
But then again I don't see no troons or pride in that Kutaka game.

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>>25731233
Kind of a shitpost of a game. There was some okay stuff in older jams but Return of the Shamei Maru is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.

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>>25701420
>Beatmario
We talk about touhou in this thread, not about vtubers.

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oil was discovered in 1859 and gensokyo didn't split from the main world until a few decades later
basically if the cast don't know what oil is, keine needs to be bullied for failing at her job

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>>25735382
Keine doesn't teach filthy youkai, they're not allowed to know things.

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>>25735382
Probably not her fault
Akyuu's books outright state that all humans are cattle for the survival of youkai
But nobody reads those books, not even Kosuzu despite being A9's girlfriend

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3dpd ruined it afterall

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>>25731970
I don't think they are, that dev also made another game with that OC in it. The game itself is terribly unfunny and the OC's existence revolves entirely around being a knockoff, but the game is okay nothing special.

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>>25691756
Because of filthy secondaries who only likes porn/music and nothing more and whine about religion stuff in a series that have religion plot since the fucking first game, like this one little shit:
>>25691787

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>>25735382
>>25735382
>oil was discovered in 1859
No, that was the time oil was first discovered in usa. People used tar for building since 1000 b.c.
But Japan doesn’t produce oil and coal was still the major fuel till mid 20 century, so it’s totally reasonable that people in gensokyo don’t know about oil.

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I just wish ZUN would throw western fans a bone. Translate the mainline games officially, create a more centralized news source.. Touhou isn't Japanese-only anymore.

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>>25742793
He translated the config tool, what more do you want?

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>>25738229
I thought Akyuu's books outright stated that things were much milder than in her previous lives, humans and youkai were existing pretty peacefully, she'd been writing the chronicles to warn people about youkai but she didn't need to anymore because modern youkai are a bunch of dorks etc?

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>>25742793
AoCF got an official English translation, maybe this one will too. Either way, ZUN knows about the fan translations and he's cool with it.

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>>25742793
I think ZUN knows that an official translation will never make justice to the fan ones. You need to hire people have nothing to do with Touhou and only translate as a job, and ZUN doesn't know English enough to supervise how stuff should be translated.
Look at what they did with Forbidden Scrollery for example. There's no difference between stuff like phantom and ghost, which sounds like a petty autistic detail but it's a detail that ZUN himself cares about enough to write pages in order to explain the difference.

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>>25742793
while I don't expect the games to ever get official translations and ZUN's history with english naming is enough indication that he has no business supervising such a translation
I do dearly wish for a central news source and translations of the truckloads of interviews and other outside the games material like SCoOW
the best we get now is clarste mentioning something ZUN said in an untranslated interview offhand on his tumblr

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>>25742793
>Touhou isn't Japanese-only anymore.
And ZUN isn't some kind of big company to easily handle these things.
He's just one drunken man who loves pretty bullet pattern and youkai girls in outdated shmup format. You're probably asking him too much.

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>>25745195
I don't feel like it's too much. I 100% understand the idea of not becoming a big business, but ZUN can absolutely do more than what he's doing right now. He can hire someone that acts as a representative of the global community when it comes to requests for translations, etc. I think ZUN is a great dev (I met him!) but I feel like he does the absolute minimum when it comes to Touhou. A bunch of people are probably falling over to work with the guy and do whatever he wants says. Kojima for example has some of the fucking dumbest and craziest ideas for games and he gets what he wants pretty much all the time.
ZUN has that same pull, and the idea that he's afraid to work with other people is a bit old-thinking.
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>>25744026
I'm cool with fan translations also but we shouldn't rely on patching our games anymore just to get them in English. Hire the people who do the translations or find someone that aligns with what ZUN wants. I'd imagine it isn't terribly difficult -- Touhou is VERY popular. I'm not asking for ZUN to sell out to the west and partner up with Micorsoft but he could be doing alot more right now than what he's doing. In Japan its super easy to get into Touhou since the games are widely available, in Japanese, and just all around accessible as fuck. In the west it's just much harder compared to other Japanese franchises.

Also ZUN please stop just getting only Tasforo to make spin-off games. There's plenty of devs who would gladly make something, expand to more devs for spinoffs.

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>>25745396
>He can hire someone that acts as a representative of the global community
You disgust me.

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>>25739228
I was agreeing with you you fucking bozo at least learn how to click the correct reply

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>>25745396
You're comparing Kojima who spend Hollywood budget on ambitious video game project to someone who make simple indie shmup every 2 years alone in his home.
Touhou is nothing more than his side hobby. It's good and reasonable enough for him to simply open up the IP for other creators and companies to create their own product and derivatives. He work solely with Tasofro simply because they are friends and connected on more personal level. Honestly, he doesn't need to do more than that or whatever he's comfortable with to turn Touhou into serious project or something.

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>>25746181
>Touhou is nothing more than his side hobby. It's good and reasonable enough for him to simply open up the IP for other creators and companies to create their own product and derivatives.
You see I understand this. 100%. But the issue is Touhou isn't a side hobby for him anymore. It's his career. He works full-time on Touhou shit, either making a game, working out licensing, or writing manga. It isn't a side hobby for ZUN anymore, it's his career. I don't really buy that he's so small hobbyist anymore. He's no soulless business man but geez, you have such a popular IP. Just do more to expand it to the rest of the world than just Japan. These mobile gaming companies have him indirectly involved with these projects. He can do the same for different areas.
>>25745667
What's the big deal? Hire someone that has the same perspective as you but can speak English/has experience with the rest of the world. I'm not asking for some retarded twitter user.

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>>25746358
I mean just because he has a popular IP doesn't mean he should go all out with trying to shill it world wide. Touhou is so heavily Japanese in both culture and concepts anyway. I think even if he did get more than just one game and one manga series translated it wouldn't lead to much success, majority of fans are content with downloading his games and reading fan translated works, why bother paying for these things but officially? Example one being I don't even think FSs english manga sold well anyway, every bookstore I go to its in such low stock and they don't bother restocking it.
He knows Japan loves it and its easier to keep it there. The diehard western fans will be fine importing the game or buying on Steam and the usual western fans are content with their ripped at release uploads.
Also you know very well it will be some retarded twitter user, it always is for these kinds of things.

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>>25746358
>Touhou isn't a side hobby for him anymore
Nah. It could be that he -doesn't- want to see his small project as something beyond that, even if he consider it his lifeline.
Working out license isn't that hard when he just say yes when contacted through email or meeting him when attending doujin event. That's probably how he got in touch with Sony and Nintendo who just promoted PlayDoujin on Comiket. And writing manga plot is easy, especially when he has a year or two of free time between games, and even if there's a process of contacting artist and publisher it's probably still within his comfort as it's directly related to his artistic pursuit, compared to expanding his franchise from business and audience perspective like CEO.
Lastly, he doesn't involved with the mobile games in any way other than opening up the IP and a bit of interview, which again, was held on Reitaisai. All in all approving shit and writing side plot still doesn't seem like he consider Touhou such a big deal nor it take much effort.
Popularity doesn't mean shit when it's all build by the fanbase without his control. Why would you force him to submit just because people giving his work more attention than he ask for?

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>>25720098
delete that immediately

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>>25742793
He's commented on it and said he likes how it's translated unofficially and thinks that's for the best

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>>25722595
>unless you try to convince people it's canon in all seriousness and nobody actually does that.
That's exactly what Western trannies try to do on twitter.

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>>25742793
>Touhou isn't Japanese-only anymore.
True, there's some good fan works coming out of Korea and China recently. Perhaps official translations for them wouldn't be a bad idea. The West, on the other hand, hasn't produced a single thing of note in a decade and instead has actively attempted to drag touhou into Western political/culture war bullshit. I hope the Western fan community dies faster and the twitter/tumblr crowd fucks off to something else.

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>>25770275
That Touhou Smash thing was pretty notable.

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>>25770275
>instead has actively attempted to drag touhou into Western political/culture war bullshit.
we wouldn't be unique in that regard

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>>25771780
I think there's a difference between a parody about politics like with MAGAMiko vs writing entire essays on why Touhou is enitrely about the ____ political movement (usually some flavor of identity politics but random shit like pro refugees or ___phobias) unironically and if you disagree you are a bigot, not a real Touhou fan, etc
All I want to do is read about funny yokai politics over the humans and how to control them, and not shit that happens IRL 24/7 on full blast

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>>25789411
>I think there's a difference between a parody about politics like with MAGAMiko
Not really , you opened pandoras box and dont want to own up to it .

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>>25793386
It's as simple as MAGAMiko being a funny one-off while American kiddie revolutionaries bleating about diversity in Touhou on Twitter is cringy and embarrassing.

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>>25789411
i think it's a case of "it's fine for me but not for thee" when you brush off when the creator references politics yet attack others for it

if it's simply a matter of frequency, how much politics can touhou be used for that is "approved" for you? because if it's okay for ZUN to do it, there's a threshold where it is okay for others
if it's a matter of doing it "tastefully" then that's a pretty arbitrary criticism

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>>25794666
Well Zun isn't callig his fans bigots and writing lengthy callout posts for not agreeing with his views now is he? Also like >>25793713 said that one time was a joke, and if Zun did have certain views, you can't really tell because often you can just say it's the characters own views and opinions..which it usually is anyway. The groups who get into franchises and fandoms to use them as platforms for their own personal agendas are not joking and just degrade the quality of discussion and fanworks.
Also nobody here is attacking them get a grip dude. Criticism isn't personal attacks.

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>>25794834
>Also nobody here is attacking them get a grip dude. Criticism isn't personal attacks.
anon, i am western and i use language loosely. it's rather silly to get upset over choice of words when there's not much difference in meaning rather than implied implications
if we're going to get semantical, you said
>I hope the Western fan community dies faster
which is a little harsher than just "criticism," but rather than get involved in semantics let's understand hyperbole in language and not do get sidetracked

>Well Zun isn't callig his fans bigots and writing lengthy callout posts for not agreeing with his views now is he?
it sounds more like your problem isn't that touhou is invoked for politics, but that some invoke it in a way that you deem inappropriate to your sensibilities. in which case, that's a rather petty complaint

i do not like the idea of stating "this media is forbidden from analysis and reference in ways i do not like," that's a very modern sentiment by people too thin-skinned. touhou is deeply rooted in japanese culture, history, and myth. it is not unreasonable for some people, in debating matters related to their own culture, to refer to it and draw similarities. the japanese themselves learned a lot from the west in the past and it is rather ridiculous to try and gatekeep the reverse in this particular instance. it would be equally silly for me to try and declare the japanese aren't allowed to use the works of shakespeare for unapproved reasons
no one says you have to agree with any analysis, in the same way i don't have to agree with a poorly used analysis of a western story, of which there are plenty. if your complaint is that the analysis is bad, then the real issue is not that they referred to touhou but that you disagree with their politics or reasoning

if your complaint is that people are dragging politics into spheres they don't belong in, that's somewhat of a different issue than simply drawing references and conclusions from media. i don't think someone should come to this board and start going off on western politics with a token reference to touhou because that's definitely not the point of this board - people do not come here to discuss that and don't want it shoehorned in
but i do not find it rational to declare that it is taboo in any setting whatsoever. if there was a discussion on /pol/ of "cultural analysis of video games" i think it would be perfectly acceptable to discuss touhou in reference to western politics. you don't have to go there and like or agree with any of it, but to condemn the entire western fandom for that is impetuous

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>>25794834
>can just say it's the characters own views and opinions
This is an important point, imo. The concept of fake news absolutely meshes with Aya's journalism style and it was played for humor in the article.

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>>25795278
You wrote all this but seems as if you're getting different anons views mixed up with my own? One anon isn't other anons.
The only point that applies is the "dragging politics into spheres they don't belong in", and I think I should have been a bit more specific but the western fandom outside of /jp/ (at this point its just a shitpost image containment zone) on a certain blue bird site seems to do that the most, I haven't checked on other sites relating to Touhou. I don't think I would mind as much people analysising the politics inside of Touhou but to say that so belief and so is FACT and that you are WRONG WRONG WRONG is the biggest issue I've seen when it comes to that in this fandom.
I'm sick of it and I just want to discuss Touhou with mentally sound people who aren't ticking timebombs ready to blow up if you don't agree.
>>25795349
Yeah, I don't mind it when its mixed in like that

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>>25698182
how dare you

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what is all this gay shit?
just post kanakos and yamames

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>>25815073
This is 17.5 thread, not Kanako/Yamame thread

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>>25794666
>i think it's a case of "it's fine for me but not for thee" when you brush off when the creator references politics yet attack others for it
Others aren't "referencing" politics, they're literally saying that Touhou is x, y, and z ideology and if you disagree with that you are objectively wrong and do not belong. We're not talking about old quaint discussions about PoFV being some analogy for the post-bubble Japanese economy or something here, we're talking about people unironically claiming that Touhou is LGBQ+ and if you disagree that is proof of you being homophobic.

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>>25683370
/incel/ board fucking when?

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>>25819147
just go back to plebbit so you can continue posting with your fellow homos

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>>25721985

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Bros, imagine if Joon use her sister Shion as a lance. It would be the most destructive weapon in entire of Gensokyo. By inflicting infinite misfortune on anything it hit, you basically can destroy anything. Plus it sound like a pretty cool sisters combo attack
Satori can just carry Koishi behind her and use her like a flash and to shut down enemy brain for a moment and disrupt their movement
Remilia can use Flandre as a reflect shield, whoever got hit or hit Flandre get destroyed

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>>25857709
go to sleep anon, you're dead drunk

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>>25795278
Why did the three fairies never comment on how Clownpiece looked like the flag they found in the forest? It's hanging on the fucking wall of their tree fort.

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>>25866965
ZUN forgot.

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>>25866965
Never underestimate Fairy stupidity.

They may genuinely not even realise because one's a flag and one's an article of clothing

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>>25869301
They might not even know that is was a flag, seeing as the flags (more like banners) that exist in Gensokyo are of the really old Japanese style ones. It probably looks to them like raw fabric that makes up Clappy's strange clothes.

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>>25681288
>kanakp

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Any chance for a new demo?

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>>25929936
Somewhere halfway thru this month.

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>>25911775
Welcome to /jp/, enjoy your stay.

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>>25770818
You mean the one that used Kickstarter and got rightfully striked by ZUN before it's anywhere near done?

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>>25949084
Yes