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2547409 No.2547409 [Reply] [Original]

Let me try this thread again.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3955345

This was posted a while ago. I thought it was interesting to see it discussed again. The read vid starts at around 1:50 for everyone who doesnt speak moon.

Oh ZUN.

>> No.2547438

Damn, ZUN, you fucking thief
I guess your plan of sue every doujin circle is going to fail...

>> No.2547460

ZUN ZUN ZUN

>> No.2547525
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2547525

lol sup guys what's going on in this thread

>> No.2547546

i like how some songs play and you instantly know which touhou song it is.

>> No.2547570

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ20N6syuwc

>> No.2547590

>>2547570
...
His theme was always oddly familiar to me. Now I know why.

>> No.2547637

>>2547409
OH WOW

I don't know what to feel.

>> No.2547644

0_0 This video is too true...

>> No.2547649

oh lawd

>> No.2547660

What's the video of? I don't have a nicovideo account, nor am I fond of creating new accounts all over the place.

>> No.2547666

HOLY SHIT

>> No.2547683

oh music.

>> No.2547688

>>2547660

who the hell on /jp/ doesn't have a nico account by now? Its almost mandatory.

>> No.2547695

>>2547688
He's a guest from /b/. Ignore him.

>> No.2547700

>>2547688
Newfriends from /a/, courtesy of KS.

>> No.2547706

>>2547660
the creator compares normal/videogame music, with touhou music, surprisingly they are almost the same

youtube link :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRRUceh8i-8

>> No.2547724

>>2547706

why help?

Also, that isnt op video. OP is 20 minutes long.

>> No.2547726

>>2547706
I'll give the guy some, but most of them are far fetched. You'll find this shit anywhere in music if you look hard enough, anyway.

>> No.2547734

These aren't really that similar. Like, at all.

>> No.2547740

>>2547726

Exactly. The Cirno comparison sounds NOTHING similar.

>> No.2547742

>>2547438
>I guess your plan of sue every doujin circle is going to fail...

What?

>> No.2547748

LIES!!!

>> No.2547753

Rumia's theme was really similar. The rest aren't.

>> No.2547758

>>2547706
>This video exposes ZUN for being the uncreative fucktard that he is.
Fixed.

>> No.2547761

>>2547409
This video, 2:11
>robotechguy here, play a real game like Halo

Which one of you fuckers wrote this?

>> No.2547762

>>2547758
How dare he use their notes, the bastard.

>> No.2547771

>>2547570
> This video is not available in your country.
come the fuck on.

>> No.2547776

>>2547753

>> No.2547779

wut?

>> No.2547789

Stealing songs? This is ZUN. I'm more inclined to believe he was drunk when writing these songs, and the question of "Haven't I heard this before?" never occured to him as these melodies came to mind.

>> No.2547796

You guys are overlooking the REAL theft: how ZUN ripped off Kilga's theme for MoF stage 1.

>> No.2547800

>>2547660
I don't have an account too, but you can still watch the video, check the link next to the red box, just above the login/password thing.

>> No.2547809

all great musicians steal tunes

they just call it an "inspiration"

>> No.2547813
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2547813

>>Beethoven = Scarlet Devil

MY MIND IS BLOWN

>> No.2547821
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2547821

We're discussing plagiarism, would you like to join?

>> No.2547829

>>2547821
original melody do not steal

>> No.2547852

Who's surprised? We're talking bullshit videogame music here.
Listen to some real music you silly bastards.

>> No.2547858

Dani California vs Sweet Home Alabama

>> No.2547862

>>2547852
>real music
lol

>> No.2547871

>>2547852
beethoven and mozart are both hacks anyway

just because rich faggots cant tell the difference doesnt mean their music is any good

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2547879

I always knew ZUN was a half-assed artist, storyteller, website-designer, and businessman, but thanks to the op's video I can add 'half-assed composer' to ZUN's laundry list of flaws.

Now I know why it takes a team of 100+ professionals to create even the most basic of games.

>> No.2547894

>>2547879
>100+ professionals
oh lol

>> No.2547904

This is actually fairly common.

As >>2547726 said, if you look hard enough, you'll find similarities in music, as well as in plenty of other media everywhere.

>> No.2547910

>>2547904
What about at the Yoko Kanno level?

>> No.2547911

>>2547871
>>2547852

You are both faggots. ZUN's compositions occasionally remind me of Rachmaninov.

>> No.2547931

>>2547894
Have you tried to get a job in the gaming industry? Most companies only hire people with 5+ years of experience. Of all the video game studios in the west, only a handful of them have entry level positions.

Fun fact, everybody that worked on Half-life has more programming knowledge than ZUN.

>> No.2547942

>>2547931
Most dev teams don't need 100+ people, bro.

>> No.2547945

>>2547409
;_;

Cannot unhear.

>> No.2547954

>>2547931
>a job in the gaming industry

Haha, oh wow.

>> No.2547956

That Yellow Magic Orchestra is pretty great.

>> No.2547958

>>2547942
And, I'm glad to hear you know ZUN personally, tell him I said hi.

>> No.2547995

Most of the comparisons are ridiculously far-fetched. I'm kinda disappointed.

>> No.2548045

... Well, if you excuse me, I'm going to go cry myself to sleep now.

>> No.2548052

ZUN THIEF DISGUSTING

>> No.2548058

Question now is, where did he copypaste the background textures from?

>> No.2548070

>>2548058
google

>> No.2548071

Clearly nobody here has heard of his Music CDs.

>> No.2548077

>>2548071
...Why do you say that?

>> No.2548088

>>2548071
There's one song from the vid that came from his music CD

>> No.2548106

>>2548088
Yeah, only 1

>> No.2548124

Huh. It's just little snippets of music that sound similar here and there, it's not nearly as bad as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTcNUoxCmHI

>> No.2548136

>>2548124
I remember that, shit.
OP video is shit compared to this, that's just coincidence.
But this...

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2548143

>>2547879

>it takes a team of 100+ professionals to create even the most basic of game

>100+ professionals

???

>> No.2548198

>>2548143
Have you never seen Tron? There are dozens of people who are kidnapped and digitized into the games.
Every time you die in a game or kill an enemy, you are murdering someone. Well, one of millions of copies of someone.

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>>2548198
I WANT HIM IN THE GAMES UNTIL HE DIES PLAYING

>> No.2548238

>>2548143
If you get on my wrong side you'll regret it.

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2548266

>>2548225

Fine, fine.

>> No.2548280

>>2547409
oh come on, they're not even remotely alike, only worth calling coincidence, with is statistically correct since he has made a shitload of compositions.

>> No.2548303

>>2548280
Actually, it's pretty convincing.

>> No.2548308

You don't need an account to watch the video, anyway. I forgot mine long ago and am watching it just fine.

Also, ZUN YOU FRAUD I LOOKED UP TO YOU

>> No.2548314

>>2548303
nah, I heard all the comparisons, most of them where song I had heard before, and didn't quite see the resemblance but on a few seconds at the beginning, I think they're just forcing it.

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2548320

>>2547409
This thread has gone on for 67 posts. WHERE THE HELL IS THE WRIGGLE VERSION OF THIS!?

>> No.2548330

The only thing I can infer from the video is that ZUN must be an avid enka listener and that enka songs basically sound all the same.

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2548337

>>2548320
You asked for it.

>> No.2548342
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>> No.2548351

>>2548337
There we go. Now I'm satisfied!

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2548359

>>2548351
Oh okay, I'll stop then, at least someone cares about the stupid images I make sometimes （　´ー｀）

>> No.2548365

>>2548359
I care. Please continue.

>> No.2548370

>>2548359
Of course! It's fucking Wriggle, with a guitar. It's just no way you can't love it!

You have 26 Wriggleforce imaged stored up for this occasion? My respect for you has just risen a little.

>> No.2548373

>>2548359
Reported for spamming.

>> No.2548375

Watch it CurryButt, you're being trolled/deceived.

>> No.2548382

Yeah, most of them are far fetched, at best.

The FF6 one was the only one that sounded similar so far.

>> No.2548391

>>2548382
I love that theme, FF6's boss theme, and I actually never thought it sounded remolety similar that ZUN's, just the first 3 seconds, and that's just ridiculous.

>> No.2548394

this video sucks

>> No.2548425

many songs follow similar chord progressions, that doesn't make them NOT different songs. i mean hell, the number of songs that follow the canon in D chord progression are too numerous to even count.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98suSr3IShc

>> No.2548435

The Yellow Magic Orchestra one was pretty close.

>> No.2548436

>>2548425
My point exactly, it's statistically bound to happen due to the amount of his compositions and style.

>> No.2548441

14 minutes in and so far only two songs sound similar enough to be questionable. Considering most music is based on the same chords and scales you would think they could've found some examples that sound a lot closer.

>> No.2548443

Since when does nico let unregistered people watch videos?

>> No.2548447

>>2548443
Since they want to hype everyone with ZUN being a fraud.

>> No.2548468

>>2548443
Mark my words, in two years nico and pixiv will be Americanized shitholes like youtube and deviantart.

>> No.2548473

This video made me remember something. Want to really shit brix?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V47enEvsafQ

>> No.2548475

holy fuck im slow as heck!!!!!

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2548496

>>2548373
THIS IS FOR YOU, PAL

>>2548370
and yeah, always gotta be prepared bro.

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>>2548365
I would have sooner but I stopped to watch Sunred and then deal with some other stuff ;_;

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HUEHUEHUEHUE DELETE MY POSTS JANITOR FINE BRAH

>> No.2548513

>>2548505
I think janitor is a pretty cool guy, eh trolls CurryButt and doesn't afraid of anything.

>> No.2548519

>>2548505
owned

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>>2548519
>>2548513

;_;

>> No.2548526

>>2548521
It's ok CurryButt, I still love you

>> No.2548532

>>2548526
hooray ヽ(´ー｀)ノ

>> No.2548554

>>2548532
>>2548526
Stop talking to yourself, CurryButt. It's weird.

>> No.2548625

>>2548554
I love you too White Ren, and Arc also. but not shion

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>>2548625

>> No.2549110,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>2548519
God. Damn.
Suigin...get shot.

>> No.2549110,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>2549110,1
not possible, i practice aikido

>> No.2550539

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MzB-ThDegY&fmt=18

>> No.2550552

you know most of what he copied he made BETTER

>> No.2550607

Thing is you can do this with any game.
There just aren't that many scale combinations out there and musicians are always copying eachother, mostly by accident.

>> No.2550627

I just noticed Lufia 2 was made by Taito.

>> No.2550627,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>2550627
You're right.
yur to slow.

>> No.2550627,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>2550627,1
makes me wonder if ZUN composed the music for it.

>> No.2550627,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>2550627,2
Maybe, he did a lot of compositions before Touhou.

>> No.2550627,4 [INTERNAL] 

Damn, you are right.
I don't remember any of the music from Lufia 2, though. This merits investigation.

>> No.2550627,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>2550627,4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyzIp6b7mk
this was the best one imo

>> No.2550627,6 [INTERNAL] 

One click lead to another and now I want to play Secret of Mana again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3N9lrq-rks
Thanks for nothing, bro.

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