/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

They plan on charging for this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

What is this atrocity and where can I learn more?

[Anonymous No.]

I ror at every translation team trying to charge people for their efforts.

[Anonymous No.]

That's a pretty awful definition of tsundere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547212
It's not a translation. It's a shitty weeaboo VN.

http://sakurariver.ca/main/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547206

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547217
> Who Are We?
>We are a small company that creates Visual Novels filled with meaningful interactivity. For too long video games plotlines have meaningless or exceedingly simplistic interaction.
>Here at Sakura River Interactive, we strive to bring everyone interactive, accessible, complex, and meaningful stories.
==============================
>After a terrible incident I moved somewhere far away...

>Lost in a paradise of fictional 2D characters I can start to forget...

>But my old ways still lie dormant within me...

>They start to awaken when history starts to repeat...

Oh boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547237
>complex and meaningful stories
>Lost in a paradise of fictional 2D characters
(　´_ゝ`)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547237
Oh, lawdy. Something tells me this will be the source of numerous memes and unintentional hilarity.

[Anonymous No.]

They're trying too hard, with zero skills in VN development.

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>What are visual novels?

>>Show us proof of your support so we give that proof to the dragons!

-Stop clicking on random shit, stupid mouse! I'll change your battery later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547252
Stop the avatar / reaction face bullshit.

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>> “I am Ryou, a daydreamer and a student at Cyrstal Waters High. I have two very close female friends, Claire and Rina. I have a crush on my childhood friend Claire but she is already in a relationship. Rina seems to be attracted to me but… I can’t date Rina when I like Claire. I am a very idealistic but romantic kind of guy. It’s a complicated problem.

When I realized that Claire was suffering from an abusive relationship, everything changed. There was nothing Rina or I did that could get her out of it. There was one last resort. Breaking my romantic ideals to save Claire, I had to learn the art of seduction.

The only thing was… I started to learn that there was something going on in this town. Rumors of creatures running around at night, a close call, and a textbook history that doesn’t add up. Even Claire and Rina are connected somehow. Between finding out what is really going on and saving Claire, I don't know if I could manage both.

If only I could stop daydreaming so much then I might have some time. Why are my daydreams so strong now when I need to focus?”

[Anonymous No.]

It makes me thankful that I am the Anime and Visual Novel otaku that I am.

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>2547258

>>Stop the avatar / reaction face bullshit.
>> avatar / reaction face
>> reaction

Looks like the "reaction" is a double entendre, here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547245
Only if someone "buys" it first.

[Anonymous No.]

Haha, oh wow. The song is utter shit, too.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is this shit!?

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>2547270
I'd hate to request a download link, but the potential hilarity is too great to resist. Anyone have one?

>>Breaking my romantic ideals to save Claire, I had to learn the art of seduction.

I seriously lol'ed at that line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547267

How does being an Anime/Visual Novel Otaku related to him bringing his PSP/DS in any way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547291
Because it makes him thankful to be the Anime and Visual Novel otaku that he is, clearly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547288

http://www.sakurariver.ca/main/fading-hearts-parallel

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547268
Stop posting, you're terrible. Go back to wherever you come from (probably /g/, that's how tripfags usually post over there).

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit a girl that doesn't play video games?

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>2547319

That's not a download link, it's the about page for the parallel story. Unless I'm missing something.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks generic, bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5fVjOz-YLo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547319

Nevermind, they took the download down.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a troll company? It's as if someone lurked on /jp/, sankaku and gaia and thought up all the negative things about the western VN fanbase then used that as the centerpiece for a VN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547336
Apparently they took it down since this attempt at a VN was so embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547352
Yeah, looks like they took it down.

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5068

Can someone upload?

[Anonymous No.]

I put this shit on megaupload

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MO6R0V16

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547333
The worst part is that the art is reasonably good. Why is that artist wasting time drawing stuff for 13 year old writers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547374
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547380

The artist probably got paid by those retarded year olds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547349
They're dead serious about it. They even wore a suit in a powerpoint presentation of their company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb3eYCcLn3Q&feature=channel_page

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm... have the creators heard of KS yet?

Hopefully not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547407

JESUS FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547338

They actually think we would like this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, guys.

Let's be serious for a minute.

It IS a fucking brilliant idea.
The art is good. The music is good.
Making VNs for the western audience is not somethink you see every day.

But what FUCKING SUCKS IS THE FUCKING STORY JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE TELL THEM TO SHOOT THE WRITER.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't laughed this hard in a long, long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547408
The KS guys have said many many times on IRC that they would not work harder if they got paid because they're doing it on the side of their daily lives, and don't want any money for the game.

[AoC !pkzejWGkfw No.]

>>2547407
The only thing that warms my black heart is that their pitch failed to be chosen in the Dragon's Den.

Is there even a sizable userbase for a commercial western VN? I'm assuming they're not taking much risks and keeping the budget close to the ground, which would explain the overall low quality.

Doomed from the beginning, but what's worse, if one could say that, is that it will salt the ground for further projects. With a clear example of a failed attempt, it will be close to impossible to get anyone interested in investing on something like it.

Meh.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe I'm not being trolled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547407

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF That guy is in my Business Finance class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547497
I would like to see them succeed, but unfortunately the whole product isn't very appealing.

Starting from the logo and ending with the plain, blue textbox with a common font.

I mean, what the hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547188

>Estimated Worldwide Anime Market Size (2004): $100 B

Who the fuck are they kidding here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547497
When a company can keep itself afloat translating VNs and localizing them, it's obvious there's a market for them.

It's just about not making a shitty one.

To be honest they should try and get some western art style VNs going, with a far more serious tone, that would get the rest of the westerner's who throw up at any hint of Japanese culture.

[Anonymous (Girl) !fuXGIRL7u6 No.]

I'm an anime otaku, deal w/ it.

I have a feeling you could take a screenshot every two lines and still get unintentionally hilarious content.

[Anonymous No.]

>Why pay more for our product?

Haha, these guys are so deluded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547497
>is that it will salt the ground for further projects

Truth. I can honestly say that if this was my first experience with visual novels, I would never touch another one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547526
it's not that far off. my walls of anime are probably worth at least a couple of mil

[Anonymous No.]

So their target audience is dumb weeaboo kids who would buy anything related to Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

I have an idea for a post-anarchism United States that explores nihilism and morality. We could use western art, music, and storytelling.

Who's with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>To be honest they should try and get some western art style VNs going,

Liefeld isn't busy these days ...

[Anonymous No.]

>Unique and memorable experience
At least they got that one right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547549

And you're still in your basement.

Quit bullshitting.

[Anonymous No.]

Well at least it's better than Katawa Shoujo. Still shit though.

>>2547530
The only people who would be interested in visual novels to begin with are those who can at least tolerate anime art style. A western art style would actually put off more potential buyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>better than Katawa Shoujo

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547568

Pretty nice troll there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547562
this is me irl

[AoC !pkzejWGkfw No.]

>>2547554
Fucking Liefeld...

>>2547530
I like that. Instead of emulating an existing business, make something new that can attract a diverse base and not just the weeaboo oriented.
Point and click adventure games did well before, but perhaps they were too restricted by the hardware of the time. A way to sell you a somewhat interactive story that is genuinely interesting and arching.

Nah, got nothing. The idea of interactive cinema experience is dead and buried with MGS4 and most of the game buying audience won't sit around for walls of text. Episodic content would be good for delivery. Episode 0 is free, following ones are at a modest price. Hopefully, with a good enough product that people can try it will get enough word.

But enough of marketing, what about the actual thing?. As >>2547552 says, there are distinctly western themes and it's not just restricted to art. Hmm, Mass Effect tried something like that.

Ah, for fucksake, Mass Effect did it already. Branching decisions, dialogs and dialogs interspersed with action. Changing the outcome from a couple of endings to a real branching story could improve it, and adding more action instead of dialogs all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547568
I've spoken to many people about Visual Novels before, they like the idea and think it can create nostalgia to the old "choose your own adventure" books they used to read.

But again, any sign of Animu cliche and they don't want anything to do with it.

Obviously Western Art style fixes this.

[Anonymous No.]

I got an idea.

Non-fiction visual novels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547635
About Hitler.

[Anonymous No.]

Mmmmm.....

Western art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547654
Masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547635
>>2547654
I think you guys are on to something.

[AoC !pkzejWGkfw No.]

>>2547654
With a grainy black and white filter.

[Hatsune Miku !MIKUiqnw0. No.]

They're using Ren'py again, aren't they?

（´－｀ ）

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547537
lawl

[Anonymous No.]

I'm 20 seconds into the game and the maid is all over my cock already.

Plus I get to choose 3 cliché phrases.

What the flying fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, that's it.

I'm dropping the game after 1 minute playtime.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we show all the japs that love Katawa Shoujo this masterpiece?

[Hatsune Miku !MIKUiqnw0. No.]

>>2547880
They've probably seen worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547835
>>2547814
Holy shit. This is even worse than I imagined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547366
>http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5068
It's sad that the writer seems to think they're doing a good job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548377
The rule of the lemmasoft forums is that no matter how terrible the writing or bad the drawing, you leave a reply:

^_^ You're doing a great job!

Can't wait to see it when it comes out!!!

It's just like Clannad/some other shitty VN. Keep it up!!

Ganbare ^______^!!!!


A non-positive comment will be attacked thoroughly by passing strangers who suddenly became passionate about the game's well being regardless of the game maker's appreciation or dissatisfaction of the non-positive comment.

[Anonymous No.]

This has to be a joke

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>2548393
Mostly out of pity for the fellow unproductive VN wannabe.

Actually played through a few "endings" so far... I never did get the other girl to even show up. Since when does "We're barely acquaintances" = rage at boyfriend + black out? I don't think the developers of this have even conversed with real people before.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably the only game that will be worthwhile to play from Renpy.

[Anonymous No.]

bump for hilarity.

[Anonymous No.]

I've figured it out. It's a vast conspiracy to discredit VNs in general. We've got to stick together, men. We've got to fight this menace.

We won't tolerate it.

No bullshit.
No praise.
No nonsense.
Only retribution.
Final destination.

[Anonymous No.]

Renpy only has a few games that are worth playing, and even fewer to actually look forward to playing: Picture related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548476

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548477
Why do you think no one ever bothered to hack ren'py so far, but the day KS Act 1 was released, two different archive unpackers and bytecode decompilers are written.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything except the character art sucked bad.
The writing sucked the worst.

I'm hoping it's a master troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548477

What's Fujino doing there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548477
If she EVER FUCKING FINISHES IT.
Too busy being an attention whore on youtube/deviantart. If she's not doing that, she's redesigning everybody for the 5th time.
GOD DAMN IT RAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548490
It could just be a scheme to get money off Dragons Den for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548484
:V

oh god, I fucking laughed for minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548477
What is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548477
Why do they have Xbox 360 rings in their eyes?

[Anonymous No.]

This isn't as bad as that one flash novel based on Kana... Shit, I forgot the website, but that one was REALLY bad.

[Anonymous (Girl) !fuXGIRL7u6 No.]

>>2548518
Oh God, I remember that. It was some sort of Kana fanfic in Flash format made by a guy and his brother.

Fuck yes, writing fanfic about an incest story with your siblings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547217
>.ca
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548551
Canadian here, I'm deeply ashamed to be somehow related to this faggotry. I shall sage my post, as a way of saying sorry.

So, so sorry...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548518
>>2548536
Wait... what?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm laughing and crying at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

We should make something worst.

[Anonymous No.]

lol lemmasoft

[Katsu-kun !!F17Uym/1MLN No.]

>>2548782
You're asking for the impossible here.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump, because I'm thankful that I am the Anime and Visual Novel otaku that I am.

[Anonymous No.]

>anyone who says this has decent character art
Just no.
That shit is barely better than ZUN's art.

[Your SUGOI Neighbourhood Aniki !k9WcbDz8Q6 No.]

Now this is some full metal jacket shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547552
With you. For reals.

[Anonymous No.]

Did somebody say western-style art?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550175
too clean to be western art
and his nose is small.
foreigners have a big nose and a big chin!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2548510
No Boys Allowed
http://community.livejournal.com/danshikinshi/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550209
So it's a dating game, not a visual novel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550219
Yeah, sounds like a dating sim. I wouldn't know for sure though, haven't been following it closely. There's a demo at the lemmasoft topic if you want to check it out.

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3970

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550191
You're thinking of jews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550249
Damn, it's as I suspected.

Any Western OELVN either has good art, or good wriitng. Never both. This is why they've always sucked ass.

KS is an exception, I guess. Hence why it's spreading through the internet like wildfire right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550380
So I'm guessing the writing is bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550555
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Also, no sprite/screen transitions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550380
> KS
> good
XD

[Anonymous No.]

The game's writing is better than Tsukihime, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550563
>no sprite/screen transitions

If you mean what I think you mean...
Then you probably haven't played it at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550566
Sometimes I really think people don't like KS for the simple fact the Japanese didn't make it.

Then I remember, they're probably just trolling, nobody could be that stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

If you choose to make a VN, you should have a pretty good idea of who your audience is, which should make it easy for you to write for that audience. That being said, whoever the fuck wrote this shit managed to misread that audience entirely and comepletely fuck up. He shouldn't be writing anything for anyone.

And since the audience for VNs is pretty much set, the only way you could have a profitable buisness plan for a VN in the west would be to come out with something like a Phoenix Wright. Tl;dr if you want to make money off a VN, make it for the DS.

[None !CIRNo.4ch. No.]

>>2550678
That way, you can at least be thankful to be the anime and visual novel otaku that you are once you get lost in the forest, with only your handheld gaming system for light and guidance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547267

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550678
Agreed, we need more games like Phoenix Wright on the DS. It's such a great system for VN-like games and people are wasting it with shovelware Sudoku and punch the monkey games.

Goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550708
Eh, Phoenix Wright was pretty basic and ugly-looking.

I wouldn't mind some good VN's on the go, but I don't know if Phoenix Wright's linearity and simplicity in all the Visual Novel aspects (Traded for fucking awesome gimmicks to solve the crime) were because of limitations or general laziness.

If all VN's on it are going to be as simplistic as PW, I'd honestly prefer a PC version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550714
The basic story, setting and especially the characters were damn good.
Also, the search mode, trials and puzzles make it more diverse and more accessible to the western audiences, and enhance it a lot, and are not just gimmicks.

[Anonymous No.]

The background art is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2547526
That had better be 2004 Canadian dollars.

Also if you ignore what the guy says and just listen to his voice, he kind of sounds like George Takei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2550714
Remember, it was originally for the GBAdvance. Hence so basic and lazy looking.
Ironically, the one game with most work, Apollo Justice, has the worst plot. And character.
I'm hoping a lot from the spinoff game soon.

[Anonymous No.]

Going back to business talk thing, becuase that was interesting.

I seriously think that with proper marketing even Japanese visual novels could have market in west. It's just the matter of picking the right ones to localize. For example, many of Nitro+ games aren't very stantard VNs and they hardly ever top the charts in Japan, but they could just appeal to western audience.
There are others like that, VNs that aren't really girl get games. Kanon and Clannad wouldn't really make good starter choices for localization, but later they might be excellent.

Hell, latest Persona games sell hundreds of thousand copies. It's just the matter of getting some positive interest going on, perhaps article on some paper and you could be set for market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551076
Or just hit up the same market Atlus and N1 has been milking for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551087
Or hit entirely new one.

Why not try selling them to people who want to read a story? Lots of people have laptops, and I can tell you that Umineko made for excellent reading at bed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551076
I figure the Nitro+ games would be a great place to start. But then I remember the disaster that befell Phantom of Inferno...
...
Nope, still doesn't work right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551076
lol, Peter Payne would love to have a lunch with you some day

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551695
Its their fault for using an obscure format.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551098
You're suggestion makes me think of the recent market of manga for cellphone displays.
Plus there's the whole netbook thing...

Aside: Don't they still make VNs compatible for win 9x and win 2k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551705
Nah, Peter Payne's businesses exist solely to collect email addresses (and thus an audience) for his uninteresting essays about his wife, kids, and life as a gaijin in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2551695
There's Nitro+, but what other companies would work?

...Please don't say Type-Moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2552035
I used to get his e-mails and actually read them because I thought he was going to write at the end of the e-mail that the company was going to have to close down.

but that never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2552227
Propreller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMleYGQcNQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbgP8vR0vzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7XH_B0LpYk

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here play Lux Pain? I got pretty far into it but I wouldn't say it is a good game. I like how I can play it on the go but I don't see how this game could catch an audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2552227
Type-Moon

[Anonymous (Girl) !fuXGIRL7u6 No.]

>>2548536
Found the website, if anyone still cares. It's hilariously bad, mostly due to the gratuitous use of Japanese words in the middle of English text.
http://www.the-z-projects.com/eternity/

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

>A particular Japanese word that I need to point out is "Iie". This means "No" in English. It's simple enough, but when you read it in the Flash, it looks really similiar to the word "Lie". So just make sure that you don't get the two confused while reading. Just look at the context.
I dunno, this Japanese seems to be a bit beyond my level.

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

It's shit.

I knew I was in for a real treat when I saw the author's name ( j-pop4life ), and the very first conversation didn't disappoint.

>"Moshi moshi?"
>"Kana, it's me. Taka," I answer.
>"Bro!" Kana exclaims. "Nan desu ka?"

Watashi wa may be a weeaboo faggot desu but this is just too much. I don't want to see any more.