/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Give me reasons why I shouldn't play this.

[Anonymous No.]

[Giant Wolf of Darkness !wolfnfNw7k No.]

-You have to read.

[Anonymous No.]

You have to wade through about half an hour of crap before you finally met these three.

[Anonymous No.]

It's SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

its shit, the only reason you should need

[Anonymous No.]

Because there are better visual novels available.

[Anonymous No.]

No sex with any of the worthwhile women.

[Anonymous No.]

Anime is better.

[Anonymous No.]

Because it has long ass boring and pointless eating/going to school/talking with side characters scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541399
They're shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541414

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541399
but skipping to H/A would feel awkward

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541414
YOU'RE shit! Let Rider out of this!

[Anonymous No.]

It's a chore only to get to a handful of scenes that you already know how they end because you stay around here.
I've been meaning to finish HF for months now. Along with CLANNAD, I just can't be bothered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541434
*Leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541436
You're not supposed to play just for the most interesting scenes. You should play because you like reading and want to get dragged along the story no matter where it leads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541471

Except the way it's written teeters between tolerable and fucking terrible, depending on the person. Overall, there are much better things to read.

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I care what you play?

[Anonymous No.]

IM SO COOL BECAUSE I HATE ON POPULAR THINGS

wow /jp/

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Well, the entire game and storyline is based around a shonen fighting tournament called "The Holy Grail War". Basically, the last man left standing in the tourney is the winner, and he gets his wish granted as the prize for winning. If that isn't generic and cliche, then I don't know what is.

Fate, not so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541371

Ignore trolls and elitist "my favourite obscure VN is better than your favourite mainstream VN" fags.

F/SN is fucking awesome. I have played many VNs (well the ones translated) and I can honestly say this is my favourite. It is true that there is a lot of dialogue and talk you need to get through, and the early days are uneventful and slow, but thats all to add to the sense of pace it picks up in the second half of its individual routes.

Basically, if you like reading, have an above average patience and like the kind of demographic that this VN is in (supernatural, action, fantasy, romance etc) then you will definately like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541516

>ZUN !barYV1VtIA

I think you kind of missed the point. Obvious troll or just retarded post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541516
>fighting = shonen

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541492
I CAN'T DEFEND THE THINGS I LIKE SO I MAKE FALLACY

wow anonymous

[Anonymous No.]

its 90% "this is boring, poorly written crap" for 10% "holy shit that was fucked up/awesome"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541534

Not really you silly cunt. I havnt an opinion on F/SN, but i view all the people who constantly bash it on the same level as I view the fags who constantly bash One Piece or Haruhi, just on the fact that they are popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541544
One, you're saying because it's popular it must be good. Two, you're saying that because it's popular anyone who dislikes it must dislike it because it's popular. So, yeah. That's pretty fucking stupid, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541544
I don't care how popular Haruhi is, it's terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541560
You should have used a better example, like Naruto

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>2541544
Actually, my hate for Haruhi has nothing to do with its popularity. The popularity merely disappoints me.

[Anonymous No.]

Haruhi sucks, but Haruhi-chan is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

Reported for starting a troll topic. If you were interested in playing it you would just play it, not try to get /jp/'s opinion on it first.

[Misaki-chan is mai waifu !KRQGZtqKic No.]

>>2541560
One Piece is good though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541556

No, maybe I was unclear, but people like to jump on the bandwagon. Of course there are many cases where just because something is popular, it doesnt equate to them being good.

I was making the point that, on /jp/, F/SN has become what One Piece and Haruhi are on /a/. Sure neither are the best show, but they are both awesome in their own rights but, maybe due to overposting, ir from constant heckling by a vocal minority, they have reached a state where every thread related to them is full of arguments about how shit they are. There are arguably worse shows than OP and Haruhi, like K-ON and Bleach for example, but they dont receive anywhere near as much hate and abuse, as they are not as popular. This is also the case with F/SN as there are definately VNs worse than it.

Damn, im not sure if i am putting my point across clearly enough...ok how about this. F/SN is a VN which has gained huge popularity over here and in Japan. Many people will have played it if they are familliar with VNs. As its popularity grew, the people who have played and didnt like it got annoyed with it constantly around and decided to take the few weak points it has and expose them to full view and exaggerate them. People who have never played it then come along and decide from what they have heard from trolls that they will definately not like it, go on wikipedia to get a few facts, then regurally troll it. Every board that is centered around an actual theme has cases like this, the trollbait of the board, something that is guranteed to create drama and butthurt regardless if the object in question is good or not. F/SN has become /jp/s touchy subject.

Thats all there is too it (i think...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541697
>shows....worse than Haruhi
>like K-On

Facepalm.exe

[grammarnazi No.]

>>2541697
>too it

Get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541724

wow. Seriously? You like K-ON...

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

>>2541642
Only shonenshit I like is FMA and Trigun really. Would I like One Piece? I might actually read a few of the manga volumes, heard good things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541697
Don't forget how on /jp/ before a VN is translated it is great, so on and so forth. However the moment it gets translated it automatically becomes terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541697
>Bleach
>not as popular

Yeah right. I've seen Bleach posters at fucking Wal-Mart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541730

Fuck off, I'm tired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541697
>As its popularity grew, the people who have played and didnt like it got annoyed with it constantly around and decided to take the few weak points it has and expose them to full view and exaggerate them. People who have never played it then come along and decide from what they have heard from trolls that they will definately not like it, go on wikipedia to get a few facts, then regurally troll it.
Basically.


>>2541724
>>2541736
Take your facepalms back to /a/ or /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541740
Simple explanation to it.
VN get hype before translation.
Then when they play it after being translated, they got dissapointed because it was too hype up/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541739
No, it sucks.

Try Cowboy Bebop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541739

Seriously do. Read the manga first, up to when they reach the Grand Line. Then go to watching the anime from that point. Thats around ep 60. The episodes before 60 are slow and the animation is a bit DERP in places. If you liked a particular arc, go back and watch it. (Dont skip the Arlong Park Arc, first indications of how fucking epic the series can get)

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

>>2541763
Ok, will do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541758

...because Cowboy Bebop is a Shounen, right?...Jesus, read the post before posting your opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541736
Not really.
It's just impossible to be worse than the worst.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>2541736
Is there something wrong with K-on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541781

Generic MoeShit. Would be an average, forgettable yet mildly enjoyable show if it wasnt for the cancer on /a/ spamming it everywhere and being determined to have 100+ image dumps of it with the 3 minute image post limit.

Same thing with Toradora, some faggots feel the need to have a show to obsess over...

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>2541739
Trigun manga outclasses almost everything in terms of awesome; if you haven't read it, you should.

To me, the Trigun anime doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541790
Why do you let what happens on /a/ influence your judgement of a show? That board is total shit anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541697

Maybe a little jumbled but this is the exact situation with F/SN in /jp/

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>2541790
>generic moeshit
Well, I can't argue with two thirds of that statement, but...

>/a/ spamming

... there's your problem right there. Who goes to /a/ anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541812
New immigr/a/nts came here for KS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541812

I am an anon split between /a/ and /jp/, as my tastes span both boards.

>>2541805

I have never let /a/ shape my opinion for any show. Same as how I never let /jp/ shape my opinion of a VN i might play. I watched the 1st 3 episodes of K-ON and it was, frankly, absolute garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541922
Then why did you say K-ON would be a midly enjoyable show if it weren't for the /a/ spam?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541953

It would be known as a mildly enjoyable show. The same way Chrome Shelled Regios is. It doesnt deserve the attention it gets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541516

Demons fight for the chance to kill, Humans gamble for the prize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541516

>and he gets his wish granted as the prize for winning

No they don't.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>2541922
>as my tastes span both boards.

So do mine, but I find no need to discuss anime at all, and /a/ never discusses manga besides JoJo, so I have no reason to go to /a/, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541371
it's the best VN of all times

there's no reason not to play it

[Anonymous No.]

No Ilya route.

That is all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542084

thats fair enough. The do have the odd good thread. But not at this time of night. I am on /jp/ when the kids invade after school. /jp/ is a much more civilised and respectful place, appart from the F/SN bashing that occurs.

When i see a thread like this start, its almost like being back on /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542188
HF was Ilya route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542104
>the best VN of all times
>F/SN

[Anonymous No.]

The best character doesn't even make an appearance.

[Anonymous No.]

i honestly, untrollingly enjoyed Fate/Stay Night the most out of all the VNs i've read

i knew to avoid /jp/ as i was reading it, as to avoid spoilers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2541403
gtfo

[Anonymous No.]

So I finally got sick of waiting for beast lairs translation for hollow ataraxia and am planing to download it and play it using my understanding of hiragana and Japanese vocabulary along with an online walk through, can anyone else vouch for this approach or will it absolutely ruin the game for me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542559

Barely understanding nasu's writing can only serve to improve it.

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2542571
How will he be able to enjoy the sex scenes without a deep knowledge of Japanese words for Sea creatures?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542583
Ah so that's what all that talk of mollusks was about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542583
I wonder if Nasu use mollusk to masturbate when he was young.

[Rome !!EPVwTIz4j/f No.]

>>2541436
Do it. Heaven's feel is the longest and better thought of all routes.
The action is intense -like Fate- and Shirou has a couple of awesome moments -like UBW- One of those include him fighting against the most powerful servant in the Nasu universe and winning. The story is well thought, with a few twists here and there. Hell, they even make Kotomine a interesting character, mostly because he does something else than look evil and die.
There's more Ilya than on any other route and Shirou actually acts like anyone would do in front of a beautiful child that calls you nii-san. Rin has everything: tender moments, cold and calculating actions and GAR battles. Even Rider gets to show what she really is made of. Boobs, guts and glasses, in case you're wondering.

There are some perks though, instead of I'M THE BONE OF MY BREAKFAST, you get LOL LIVING WITH SAKURA IS FUCKING BORING although that counts as another good thing if you actually like Sakura. One of the best characters, Lancer, dies too quickly. And Gilgamesh's death is a poor-thought deus ex machina to get him out of the way.

Endings? The Good end is a beautiful finale for the series, even when you end up with the worst character. The normal end is just a long and painful tearjerker. I'm not even gonna start talking about Mind of Steel because anything about that is vox populi by now.

For all those things, I believe that HF is the best route on Fate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542622

Is it still saddled with slice of life crap? That's the reason why I can't be assed to finish the Fate route.

[Anonymous No.]

FSN is the Halo of /jp/ fun and revolutionary, but it's cool to hate it

[Rome !!EPVwTIz4j/f No.]

>>2541436
Do it. Heaven's feel is the longest and better thought of all routes.
The action is intense -like Fate- and Shirou has a couple of awesome moments -like UBW- One of those include him fighting against the most powerful servant in the Nasu universe and winning.
The story is well thought, with a few twists here and there. And all characters shine with a different, equally beatiful light:
They managed to make Kotomine an interesting character, mostly because he does something else than look evil and die.
There's more Ilya than on any other route and Shirou actually acts like anyone would do in front of a beautiful child that calls you nii-san. Rin has everything: tender moments, cold and calculating actions and GAR battles. Even Rider gets to show what she really is made of. Boobs, guts and glasses, in case you're wondering.

There are some perks though, instead of I'M THE BONE OF MY BREAKFAST, you get LOL LIVING WITH SAKURA IS FUCKING BORING although that counts as another good thing if you actually like Sakura. One of the best characters, Lancer, dies too quickly. And Gilgamesh's death is a poor-thought deus ex machina to get him out of the way.

Endings? The Good end is a beautiful finale for the series, even when you end up with the worst character. The normal end is just a long and painful tearjerker. I'm not even gonna start talking about Mind of Steel because anything about that is vox populi by now.

For all those things, I believe that HF is the best route on Fate.

[Rome !!EPVwTIz4j/f No.]

>>2542631
Sorry, tried to edit a few things to make it understandable.
Gave up after a few minutes. I fucking hate wall of texts.

Anyway, Yes, there is slice of life; less than on other routes, but still a fuckton of it. It seems that Shirou waked up one day and thought: HEY LET'S STAY IN THE HOUSE WITH SAKURA ALL DAY LONG FOR A WEEK. IT'S NOT LIKE HER STATE IS GETTING WORSE OF ANYTHING.

Nothing said there is vital to know, so you can skip it all. It starts to get shorter towards then end, mostly because Shirou starts to lose his sense of time. He kinda makes a Fast Forward of all the daytime crap and regains reason at night. Much appreciated, Nasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542687
Only shonenfags dislike the "slice of life" parts of F/SN anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542687

But what irks me about the cooking scenes isn't so much that they're overly long or pedantic, it's that they could be avoided entirely. Any normal author would just say "We ate a hearty meal and then Saber regaled us with tales of woe from her past" but nasu either has a fetish for cooking scenes or makes the common literary mistake of padding out useless scenes to increase the length of the work. And I don't like skipping unread parts of a vn because I feel like I'm doing the characters a disservice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542738
but it really allows you to get into the head of Shirou, and shows how something as cooking a meal reveals how much consideration he puts into making something to give pleasure to those he cares about. food has power, it can inspire, astonish, shock, excite, delight and impress. It has the power to satisfy himself and others.
To be a cook, a good cook, requires an almost masochistic and/or irrational love of cooking. Given Shirou's survivor's guilt and extreme selflessness and dedication, he could be a great culinarian.

[Misaki-chan is mai waifu !KRQGZtqKic No.]

>>2541739
I was at class, so I didn't get a chance to answer. It'll depend on your tolerance for silliness. When OP is lighthearted, it can get a tad too childish for my tastes, but when Oda turns up the serious factor, it has caused me to cry several times. Just know, the beginning is the weakest part of OP, it gets progressively better every arc. Like >>2541763 said, if you don't like it by the end of Arlong Park you probably wont want to continue. If you do keep going, be prepared for CP9. That arc alone made all 400 odd chapters before it worth the investment.

[Anonymous No.]

the cooking scenes were just a battle between Rin and Shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

Because you are a retard who loves hollywood and US comic shits, which depicts a hero in red underwear beating the crap out of a bald headed villain who seems to be equally retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2544521
But Shirou wants to be a superhero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542559

That's pretty much exactly how I played through it the first time. Go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2544533

Yeah, and he did find out much later that it sucks, contrary to some douche who think his outfit is cool and fly around the world with his amerikkan propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2544655
No he didn't. He found out that selling your soul to the world is a shitty deal. But that's different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2542635

wow that's a pretty good analogy

[Anonymous No.]

FATE IS THE BEST ROUTE

YOU ALL SUCK ASS, HF IS THE WORST

[Anonymous No.]

>>2544946

They're both shit.