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2525898 No.2525898 [Reply] [Original]

Can KS be the next Tsukihime?

>> No.2525907

In before feces tempest.

>> No.2525910

>>2525898

No, their necks aren't long enough.

>> No.2525917

Does it have POWERLEVELS LOL?

>> No.2525925

Kenji can defeat cripples, discuss.

>> No.2525950

No idea, but the art itself is already vastly superior.

>> No.2525953

If you mean in terms of how many threads are made daily, then yes it is well on its way.

>> No.2525960

>>2525953
It sure is butthurt around here

>> No.2525961

Not really.

Other OEL VNs read better than KS. Also, KS doesn't even compare to the modern Japanese doujin VNs (that aren't running on NScripter).

KS is a fine attempt our 4chan friends, but it's still mediocre in the end. Perhaps they should have strived to create something original instead of trying to poorly emulate certain English translated VNs.

>> No.2525970

>>2525961

But you told me you didn't like The Fucking Question...

>> No.2525971

>>2525961
No one cares any more.

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>>2525961

Yeah, yeah, we get it, "The writing is shit" "The ideas aren't original".

Whatever man.

>> No.2526019

>>2525971

Just telling it how it is. I know only a small amount of people here follow the niche indie VNs (either Japanese or Western) so thus someone (myself) is going to have to make an informed comparison.

You have to admit that "ignorance is bliss" for most of the "fans" of KS though. Actually, I'm not even sure if the KS dev team follows this stuff. That isn't good either.

>> No.2526029

>>2526019
It's amazing how far your head is up your ass, really.

>> No.2526040

>>2526019

O.K.

>> No.2526044

sure is elitist faggot itt

>> No.2526038 [DELETED] 

これが日本のエロゲだ
http://f12.aaa.livedoor.jp/~itatisa/phpup/cgi/src/up3886.jpg

>> No.2526048

>>2526019
>I'm so cool and elite my opinions are the only right ones.

>> No.2526051

>>2526044
>/jp/
>elitism
Oh my god, really?!
Say it isn't so!

>> No.2526052

>>2526019
What? Did Anime Expert move on to VNs?

>> No.2526053

Sage for tripfaggotry.

>> No.2526058

ohohoho fanboys playing the white weeaboo

DON'T FLOOD THE BOARD WITH GAJINGE THREADS, KEEP IT NEAT & CLEAN

>> No.2526064

Can KS be a decent VN?

>> No.2526071

>>2526052

I've seen 1,000 Anime and played every game out there, so I'm trying to move on to other stuff now (like figures and VNs).

I'm no Fig/VN_Expert yet though. Maybe in a few years. Knowing Japanese is helping though.

We have an official /jp/ Eroge_Expert and Figure_Expert anyways. Polite sage.

>> No.2526095

>>2526019
I play a lot of doujin VN. I haven't played many of the western ones since I've never felt like bothering because I had preconceptions that they were all terrible so I don't know how it compares to those but I quite enjoyed the demo.

>> No.2526122

I should probably know this but KS is?

>> No.2526124

After going through it a bit more, one thing that is bothering me (apart from some sentences constructed in a weird way, especially missing commas) is the fact that Hisao spends 75% of his time going "WAH EVERYONE IS SO DIFFERENT, I CAN'T FIT IN" and "WHY IS MY HEART SO CRIPPLE LIKE IN APPEARANCE."

I mean, we get it, it was a sudden change in his life. But did they really need to make the main character repeat the same shit over and over, throughout several days? It's like someone made a sheet with the characters and their traits and then handed it over to the writers, who then proceeded to just write the same shit over and over based on the general traits they were given and never deviate from it.

So yeah, my complaint is that Hisao is a completely one dimensional character whose only thoughts consists of "She's a cripple. How can she stand being so crippled? It's amazing how well she adjusts to the fact that she's a cripple. Fuck, am I a bigot for noticing she's a cripple?" and "MY HEART IS BROKEN, I want my old life back! I don't fit in, I'm (mostly) fine! Why is everyone so crazy? WHY MUST I TAKE SO MANY PILLS. Also, fuck exercising."

>> No.2526142

no, it isn't even Japanese

>> No.2526145

>>2526122
Kakarot Saiyan new DBZ VN.

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>>2525953

>> No.2526176

- Mediocre writing skills to begin with
- Emulating the style of existing VNs (translated by mirrormoon)
- Trying to make the dialogue sound natural and like anime at the same time

>> No.2526181

>>2526176
>- Emulating the style of existing VNs (translated by mirrormoon)
I don't mind this one, actually. Again, what bothers me is how one dimensional Hisao is.

>> No.2526179

GRADOS ARE SHIT WHY WOULD THEY USE THOSE

>> No.2526189

Another fucking thread.
REPORTED

>> No.2526361

I stopped reading the 2ch thread on the Katawa Shoujo demo about the same time it degenerated into a discussion about hermaphrodites.

>> No.2526380 [DELETED] 

>>2526179
They look like RS-1. I think you're just having a case of sour grapes.

>> No.2526381

>>2526361
Oh 2ch, you're our true bros.

>> No.2526407

>>2526361

D-does androgyny count as a disability?!

>> No.2526417

>>2526181
I wonder if he is. About the only times you see him, he's got this creepy shadow of a grin on his face (reminds me of Garden's protagonist A LOT). Pretty sure he's planning something or other.

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>>2526189
Bump.

>> No.2526467

What we need is a good writer first of all. If the writing sucks, everything else does.

>> No.2526494

>>2526361
I bet they were trying to guess Misha's disability when that happened, right?

>> No.2526518

>>2526467
A lot LESS writers, too.
Unless your lead writer and director is Tomo Kataoka (and even then, sometimes) too many writers (in other words, more than one or MAYBE two) will spoil a story with inconsistency.

Just find one writer who can write well and can also write like a MANIAC (some English equivalent to Kikakuya or Izumi would be fantastic; the whole game would be finished in a month) and you'd be set.

>> No.2526525

>>2525961
>Other OEL VNs read better than KS.
It's probably useless to ask this of someone who criticized the writing without even reading it, but: Like what?

>> No.2526537

>>2526518
That's not maniac.
Try more Nietzche style, he wrote " Thus spake Zarathustra" in a month.

>> No.2526539

anyone have a link to the 2ch thread?

>> No.2526543

>>2526518
>too many writers will spoil a story with inconsistency
And then you have what happened with KS. The different path writers were too afraid of making Hisao's personality look inconsistent, so they just went with what I described here. >>2526124

>> No.2526558

I liked it, and thats all that really matters to me.

>> No.2526557

>>2526539
http://tsushima.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news/1241200607/

>> No.2526564

>>2526518
Anyone can write a bunch in a month, but to make it really good in that time I feel is difficult unless you had copyeditors on the side editing the first parts while the latter parts are being written, and even then you'd have to have a large amount of skill to put out something of any real quality in a months time; trust me, I've tried with NaNoWriMo twice.

>> No.2526572

>>2526518
with one writer making KS would take ten years.

>> No.2526574

>>2526537
also sprach zarathustra wasn't _that_ long. Izumi's written more than that in a week (read his blog sometime)

By the way, this 'Izumi' is Black Cyc's main writer (for MinDead Blood, Extravaganza etc.)

>> No.2526594

>>2526124
so, the risk scene, the rin wall scene, the meeting lilly-tea scene, any scene with kenji, you didn't notice those at all? I've only played the first 3 days or so yet, but so far there have been several big scenes that had pretty much nothing to do with disability stuff and heavily focused on the girls' characters.

I can't argue that there are a shitload of bits of him thinking about or talking about his trouble getting used to the school, but it's the first week, and it's not like it's ONLY that. I'm still hopeful that'll fade away.

>> No.2526595

>>2526572
Most highly-regarded Japanese-language VNs are written by one person, and they don't take that long to create. Again, W.L.O was written by one person, it reads better than the KS demo does and it's got 6.5mb of TEXT.

>> No.2526644

>>2526594
ah nevermind, I see your problem was more with hisao not having much of a distinct or developed or consistent character. yeah that seems fair

>> No.2526673

>>2526595
it also probably was not written by a person making his first VN project on his spare time.

>> No.2526711

So...

What exactly is bad about KS's writing? I'm not prepared to defend it or anything, it just makes me interested. I'm a bit of a writer so I'd like to know what NOT to do.

>> No.2526772

>>2526673
This was his first VN project, but not on his spare time, no.

>> No.2526810

>>2526557
Other than "Japanese patch please!", I can tell that they liked the KS demo. I think I noticed one of them saying "Hanako is cute".

>> No.2526820

>>2526810

Well, she is.

>> No.2526821

>>2526594
It's called stretching the story.

>> No.2526836

>>2526124
Hisao is still a kid. He has a lot to learn about life. You can't expect a kid to wisen up so quickly.

>> No.2526845

>>2526711
Basically a couple screenshots got posted and people (myself included) jumped onto the bad grammar (or perhaps just awkward wording) of them. Most of it is okay, it's just a few moments where you have to double-take and wonder if they really did have anyone editing.

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>>2526557
>Let's not hate

These people are not Japanese. They are some sort of bizarro-nip species.

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