/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Sup /jp/

I'm Brazilian, and i love languages. In fact, i want to make a living out of translating stuff

I already speak portuguese, english, spanish and french and i want to start learning some other and i think Japanese is fascinating, though it seems hard

So, just asking, is it really really hard? Any tips on how to start learning it online?

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[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
But Brazilians are too stupid to learn another language

[Anonymous No.]

Inb4 Br? HUEHUEHUE

[Anonymous No.]

besides kanji it's easy

[Anonymous No.]

>make a living out of translating stuff

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE

[Anonymous No.]

>Japanese
>Fascinating.

Cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
>Hey /v/
Get out

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/

[Anonymous No.]

I thought for a while if i should say i was brazilian or not, but i thought you guys wouldn't act like /v/ or /b/

Oh well...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511747

You mean, hahaeuaehaueaheuaheaueuaheahehaeh

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511756

Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511756

Any objection?

[Anonymous No.]

>Japanese is fascinating
oh lawd

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2511767
HUAHUEHUEHUAHUAHUEHUEHUAHUEHUAHUEAHUHEUAHUAEHUEAHUEHAUEHAUEHAUEHUAEHUAHEUHUEAHUEHAUEHUAHUEHAUEHUAHEU
AHUEHAUHEUAHUHEUEHUHUHAEUHAUEHAUEHUAEHUAEHUHAE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511767
We don't mind any nationality but Brazilians.
But you seem, rarely, decent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511766

Cool, thanks, any info is appreciated

>>2511754

I asked a friend who speaks chinese once, and he said it's completely random, i don't believed him though but isn't it a lot to remember?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
>portuguese (...) spanish and french
Well, Spanish and French are almost trivial for Portuguese speakers. And everyone on the Internet has to learn English sooner or later.

Japanese has nothing to do with Romance languages or English, so expect a challenge. Considering you're Brazilian and don't sound dumb, at least you won't sound too much like a retard when speaking Japanese, unlike English speakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511767
It's a language. Just like any other. The problems are the runes. Otherwise, it's a language. Just like any other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511775
You have a lot of free time today making shitty posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511782
>Random
What the hell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511767
U gib me monez? I REPORT U

[Anonymous No.]

WHY ARE THERE FAGGOTS EVERYWHERE TODAY /jp/
PLEASE ANSWER ME IT'S NOT EVEN WEEKEND YET

OP, eh, I think the only hard part if memorizing the kanji and their meanings. Grammar shouldn't be so hard, and memorizing katakana and hiragana is a walk in the park.
I'd try learning it but I like being lazy so no.
By the way, couldn't you just google for Japan or something? Why did you post a pic of your installed TF2 with a Guest pass, with /v/ as the background?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511767
Please do not take Ciel as an accurate representation of us as a board.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2511787
>brazilian
>don't sound dumb

Don't have to sound like it to be it. ಠ3ಠ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511776
/jp/ also hates coreans, remember?

REMEMBER?

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2511793
Waifu is drawing, so I have nothing to do for now but make shitposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511801
Oh yes, I forgot, Koreans too.

[Anonymous No.]

Man.

It sure is BR today.
Makes me feel like GOING ONLINE AND RPT PPL FOR NO GIV MONE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511767
Actually, it's just CurryButt and his retard gang. Ignore them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511787
Well that's true, if you know a romance language, at least Japanese pronunciation will be quite easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511810
LOL I REPOTR U XD

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2511811
I have a gang now? But I don't see Ciel Dude, Arc, Alice, or the others. ಠ3ಠ

[Anonymous No.]

BR!

[Anonymous No.]

>make a living out of translating stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511787

Trivial, but still you need to get a grip on them to be confident. This time i want to try a language with a different alphabet, i was kind of between this and russian

>>2511789
>memorizing katakana and hiragana is a walk in the park

Really? Good to know

The pic was completely random, i think it's from a thread where people posted their steam games, but i don't really remember saving this picture

>>2511791

I asked if there was any logic between how the kanjis look (how they are drawn and so on) and their meanings, he said no

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who, even after dealing with thousands of BRs on games, haven't ever see one of them say anything about reporting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511835
Well, he lied/knows shit.
And the alphabet is indeed easy to learn but kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511837
Same here, the BR! thing is entirely true though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511816
Portuguese especially. I don't know if it's the same way for Brazilian speakers (BECAUSE THEY SOUND FUNNY WHEN THEY TALK), but if you read romaji like it was Portuguese (you still have to account for weird stuff like Ls, obviously), you'll get most of the pronunciation right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511857
Not really, works better with spanish

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511875
Yet you sound like a fag when you speak normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511857
I'm another Brazilian (who finds it funny how whenever someone mentions they are Brazilian in a thread, ten thousand other Brazilians appear out of nowhere) and it's indeed easy (at least for me) to speak stuff in Japanese and make it sound correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511864
Are you talking about Iberian Spanish? Because I don't see how that would work, the way they pronounce stuff is way off.

[Anonymous No.]

BRAZILIANS

BURN IN HELL

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511877
Latin american spanish

[Anonymous No.]

So guys, any more links? This one >>2511766 just went down...

About.com is any good?

[Anonymous No.]

Hey BR, why not stick around instead of asking the same shit questions /jp/ gets all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511882
Do I? Well, I know I suck at pronouncing things in English, but... is Brazilian Portuguese such a weird language?

Oh wow. I just noticed it really is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511912

Don't sage me, irmão

Cidade de Deus and movies like these is what makes people think portuguese is so bad... i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511912
It is, too weird for me to handle, not that it sounds bad, it's the way you pronounce it makes you sound like you're never talking seriously, and eveerything is some sort of joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511877
As a Spaniard, I don't have problems with Japanese pronunciation.

[Anonymous No.]

Sup OP, fellow Brazilian here.

It's been a little bit more then a year since I started learning Japanese, and yeah it is way harder than learning English. You'll start by learning the kanas, Higarana and Katakana. It's not that big of a deal, really. Basic vocab is also a breeze and the grammar is not too difficult.

The problem starts when you start learning the Kanjis. They can really mess your head. There is a logic behind them, yes, but not always. There is also a specific order on how you write the lines, you'll learn that soon enough. There is a fuckton of them to learn if you want to reach proficiency, about 2000 or so if I recall correctly. I must know about 200-300 only (yeah I'm taking it slow).

I have Japanese classes but I don't think is the best way to go, you might want to spend some time outside the country to learn the language on where it is spoken, I did it for English and it worked wonders.

By the way, from what region are you from? Curitiba here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511926
Oh no no, I got portuguese dudes at my university, they do sound weird.

[Anonymous No.]

Buy or download the book "Remebering the Kanji" and download an SRS program. An SRS program is pretty much an electronic flash card program but the way it organizes the deck is a little more retention efficient than just randomly drawing card.

In before some butthurt Japanese major who wasted years of his life learning Kanji comes in. Heisig doesn't teach readings, we know.

[Anonymous No.]

BRAZILIANS FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511929
>the way you pronounce it makes you sound like you're never talking seriously
Huh, never noticed that.

>>2511926
You do know that the only thing sage does is not bumping the thread, right?
I don't like bumping, so I tend to use sage often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
>I'm Brazilian

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511936
Portuguese (from Portugal), however, sounds really weird in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
Hey OP, if you want to know what it's like to learn Japanese follow these easy steps.

1. Turn on the lights in your room. You want to be able see your desk clearly.
2. Sit next to your desk. Sit comfortably, you will be there for a while. Do a few stretches. Also bring some snacks and soda.
3. Load the programs on your computer that you might need at some point of your study session, you don't want to get interrupted by having to find them.
3a. You might want to turn on some music so you don't get bored.
4. Get a few sheets of blank paper.
5. Get two pens. Yes, two. Now pick up one of them with your left hand and the other one with your right hand.
6. Repeatedly stab your testicles with the two pens for 2-3 hours.
7. Repeat these steps every day for 2-5 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511947
I'm not >>2511929, but I'm Portuguese and to me, Brazilian accents sound you're singing or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511968
>studying for 2-3 hours a day
No wonder it was torture, you idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511968
I've been learning for 6 months now and have been having a lot of fun. I finished the Kanji meanings in about 2 months and it was actually the most fun for me. Vocabulary is super boring until you can start figuring words out from context.

[SonnyRay No.]

Te gusta el futbol?
Ronaldinho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511934

Hey bro, sorry for taking so long to answer

Nice to know how the ride will be like, kanjis do look like a real pain though and i don't see why the order of writing the lines would change anything but looks like i'll learn it soon enough

Going out of the country is not an option for me now unfortunatelly...

I'm from Rio, i hear a lot of good things about Curitiba

>>2511939

I'll take a look at this, thank you

>>2511947

Yes i know how saging works

>>2511990

De hecho, no me gusta el futbol

[Anonymous No.]

First of all, if you're not using a SRS you should be. This will save you more time than anything else. Anki is the best SRS there is.

Japanese is an easy language with a difficult writing system. I recommend studying Heisig or Kanjidicks before anything else, to make the kanji much easier.

Next study Tae Kim's guide, and All About Particles. After that start reading manga and light novels. Switch to using native Japanese dictionaries/grammar guides as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512242
Fascinating.

[Anonymous No.]

And if you do use Heisig, don't bother with books 2 and 3. It's best to learn the readings in context from real sentences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512242

Nice, it's like you divided into steps, i wonder how long until i can understand a manga. Thank you

>>2512258

Good to know. Indeed the best ways to practice and get a grip of things are in real situations

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512251
>>HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE REACTION PICS SO FUNNYZ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512349
>green text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512349
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>>2511747
Go back to bed kids.

[Anonymous No.]

It is not really all that hard, at least in my opinion. It's pretty formulaic, the only hard part is learning kanji. I would recommend torrenting (or buying, if you're into that) the japanese rosetta stone. I am using it and like it really well. Additionally, download Genki and Anki, they are also useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512402
>or buying, if you're into that

Not really, haha

Thanks, i've heard good things of this rosetta stone too

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512387

[Anonymous No.]

>>2511740
>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512172
Ｙｅａｈ．
Ｍｙ　ｆｉｒｓｔ　ｔｒｏｕｂｌｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｗｒｉｔｉｎｇ　ａ　ｓｔ
ｒａｎｇｅ　ｗａｙ　ｗａｓ　タ, which I usually made too awkward, and put the inside stroke on the outside stroke, if you get what I mean? I usually connected the outside and inside stroked with the stroke I'm talking about.

Confused me for an hour or so, but I finally got the hang of it.

Practice an hour a day, it's what I did, and I usually enjoyed it.

Anime does NOT help. The Seiyu (Voice Actors) generally don't speak like a Japanese person would, lol. (Found out when I went to Kyoto last Summer)

[Anonymous No.]

Brazilians speak as if they had a mouth full of potatoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>Brazilians speak as if they had a mouth full of potatoes.

No, those are the Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet CurryButt's been raped by a brazilian. Just a random guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512584
I think you mean americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2512478
You missed /b/.