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Lancer had the worst character design in Fate/Stay Night.

>> No.2497757

Go fuck yourself.

>> No.2497761

faggot

>> No.2497768
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>> No.2497769
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2497769

Saber had the best character design in Fate/Stay Night.

>> No.2497799
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>>2497769
I must disagree with you sir

>> No.2497806

This thread has the worst design on the front page of /jp/.

>> No.2497809

Designing his clothes took 5 minutes...
He was a cool character, but no way in hell hed pass for a Celt in that suit.

>> No.2497810

>>2497809
That's cool, because he wasn't a celt, he shouldn't look like one.

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>>2497799

sir i must refute that invalid claim

>> No.2497851
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2497851

Sakura has the worst character design.

>> No.2497854

>>2497810

Ive just gotten a phone call from Ulster... They were Celts alright...

>> No.2498082

>>2497799

So much for going trough whole day without fapping...

>> No.2498608

>>2497851
Touche.

>> No.2498731

>>2497851

Nice hand. I swear type-moon doesn't have a single guy that can draw properly.

>> No.2498750

>>2498731
There is nothing wrong with hand.
The positions they characters are given are just fucking weird, not wrong or impossible.
Actual QUALITY exists only in a few CGs.

>> No.2498768

>>2498731
Its well known that no one can draw a hand or foot right

>> No.2498778

>>2498731
That hand is ok. TM's art problems surface in full body shots, where the limbs become loooooong.

>> No.2498790

>>2498750

Sure, if you miss the fact that it looks like a fucking foot. And yes, they draw everything in weird angles and positions in hopes of trying to make their plain art more interesting.

>> No.2498810

>>2498731
Are you saying that Ryukishi knows how to draw better?

>> No.2498816

>>2498750
As much as a TMfag that I am, I have to admit that Takeuchi's drawings have awkward proportions. At least FSN wasn't as bad as Tsukihime, where everyone had swan necks.

>> No.2498820

>>2498810
Ryukishi doesn't even try to pretend he can draw, though.

>> No.2498826

>>2498790
Not really, no.
I have never seen any foot that would resemble that.
I really can't picture it.
>>2498816
The proportions are mostly alright for animu style(yes, hands and legs are usually long) for the in-game sprites.
However, he fucks it up at some events CGs.

Overall, it's a barely above average style but distinctive style.

>> No.2498827

>>2498820
Especially when he calls his works as "sound novels".

His art, while nowhere near good, has definitely improved. Higurashi's character designs were unbeareble but now they're decent. In fact, I kind of like it now.

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>>2497825
These two fine young ladies would disagree with you sir.

Saber is nice though, and certainly better looking than Sakura.

As for Lancer, as much as I love the guy I agree that his design is pretty fucking terrible. He looks so much nicer in his alternate outfits it's not even funny.

>> No.2498832

>>2498827
By now, I meant Umineko but w/e

>> No.2498844

>>2498828
I guess it's his monochrome tight armor.
Blue hair and blue armor, PLUS tights...
They could have given him a wolf pelt and a few decorations, but I guess they wanted to keep it as simple as possible.

>> No.2498848

>>2498827
Ryukishi's sprites have character to them, unlike generic anime faces in most VNs.

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>>2498844
I agree.
As far as Lancers go, Diarmuid has the best design.

>> No.2498880

It strikes me as so weird to have Saber's armor be so well designed, and Gil's so..striking..

and Archers is good if you take it as some sort of Future fashion Too I guess.

But then you've got Lancer.

Bright blue jump suit.

>> No.2498883

>>2498876
Well, we only have two Lancers to talk about, so that's not saying much. Zero Lancer is pretty cool though.

>> No.2498885

>>2498876
So between TWO designs, one which we just discussed why it's bad, you present the remaining one as 'best'.
That was meaningful.
And those steel anglets...

>> No.2498891

>>2498880
Plus, Medusa's is what you'd expect and Rider's is there to emphasize she is FUCKING HOT AND SLENDER.
What where they thinking...
His leather pants/hawai shirt combo would have been better.

>> No.2498902

>>2498880
>>2498844
>>2498876
So what's up with Lancers and tights anyway? They're one of the knight classes, so they should have a bit more armor on them. Heck, even EMIYA gets to wear a breastplate, and let's not even talk about Gil.

>> No.2498912

>>2498902
well, Cuchulain specifically has killed things from being naked and dressed in leather, to light armor and CLAD IN ARMOR HEAD TO TOE.

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>>2498902
lancers are the fastest, so I guess the sacrifice of protection for speed/mobility

>> No.2498925

>>2498912
Still though.

I would have rather seen him in some sort of Hide armor, Probably wolf fur or something. Would've fit his nature better I think.

>> No.2498935

>>2498925
Yes, I get it.
But I guess Nasu was drunk and though 'Man, I wrote Lancer awesomely. Fierce warrior and a bro. What does he need....TIGHTS! BLUE! JUST LIKE HIS HAIR!'
Enter him calling Takeuchi's cellphone.
And it stuck.
I guess.

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>> No.2498947

My biggest problem with Lancer was those goddamn woman earrings.

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Seriously, dreamy here.

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>>2498947
but that woman is manlier than you'll ever be

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2498957

And then... the jumpsuit what.

>> No.2498959

>>2498935
And out of sheer spite, Takeuchi colored Gay Bulge with nothing but red. Well, at least it's better than blue.

Isn't it sad, Lancer? ;_;

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2498963

Baz loev lancer

>> No.2498965
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2498965

This is what I imagine Fate's Cuchulain was dressed like before the Grail War thing. I'm going to assume that when he was summoned he was forced into blue tights so that he could be the blue to Archer's red.

>> No.2498970

What about Shirou? Except for his awesome eyes, he looks pretty lame with his baseball shirt and bushy hair.

>> No.2498972

>>2498970
Well, he was supposed to be a 'normal' high school student, so no surprises there.

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>nothing at all

>> No.2498979

>>2498970
still a step up from shiki's orange and blue shirt

>> No.2498986

>>2498965
Still, his costume could have been so much better and still be blue.

>> No.2498988

>>2498979
Shiki looks like a fucking idiot. I hope they make him look cooler in the remake. The shirt was godawful and the jacket with the pointy shoulders isn't much better.

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2498992

The only character with worse design than Lancer was Rider

>> No.2498996

>>2498988
Shiki is a fucking dick. Shit personality, so a shit taste in clothes suits him.

>> No.2498998

>>2498992
At least Riders accentuated her features.

>>2498965
That is absolutely perfect!

>> No.2499003

>>2498996
Agreed. Shirou was as stupid as a sack of bricks, but at least he wasn't an asshole.

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2499005

Saber is moe

>> No.2499007

>>2499005
Shirou's muscular arm is more moe to me.

>> No.2499012

>>2499003
Shirou is not stupid.
More like, socially awkward and borderline fucking broken psycho.
And Shiki is in overall a good boy, he just can be an asshole when frustrated (or when having sex)

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>>2499005
Obligatory.

>> No.2499018

>>2499012
So, in other words: Shirou's socially inept & Shiki's a dick.

>> No.2499019
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>>2499003
>Shirou was as stupid as a sack of bricks
And that's why we love him!

>> No.2499021

>>2499018
So by their powers combined, they become... Anonymous?

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>>2499019

>> No.2499023

>>2499021
Well, Shiki is just happy to be alive and Shirou can only find bliss in Others' happiness, so something is missing in the equation.

>> No.2499025

Am I the only one who liked Shirou over Shiki? I see a fuckload of Shiki fanwanking everywhere I go, and Shirou always gets the "worst main character ever, shitty captain obvious die when killed lol" trophy.

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>>2499025
Reality Marble > Mystic Eyes

>> No.2499031

>>2499023
Kotomine and 4th war Assassin?

>> No.2499038

>>2499030
Yes. And as far as personalities go: Nice dork > Asshole dork.

Because the're is no denying that both Shirou & Shiki were a little dense at times. Not stupid, but dense.

>> No.2499039

>>2499025
Count me in. I like Shirou better. The FSN anime left a bad impression regarding Shirou, since it really made him look like an chauvinist idiot, rather than a broken husk of a person, nevermind the fact that the chauvinism is merely a front for his self-sacrificial attitude which borderlines on suicidal.

>> No.2499043

>>2499039
Yes, I agree.

Many prefer Shiki because of "awesome badass grimdark killer Nanaya", while Shirou's just a pussy good kid. Actually, one of my acquaintances worded it exactly like that.

>> No.2499045

>>2499043
I like the darker Nanaya aspect to his character too, but I really just like Shiki's attitude towards life and happiness and all.

>> No.2499049

>>2499043
Your acquaintance must be an asshole or a retard, then.

>> No.2499050

███████████████

>> No.2499063

>>2499049
Actually, he is. He saw me once practicing my miserable Melting, came up and was like: "Whooa, dude. Isn't that Tsukihime? That anime was SO tight!", to which I responded "Yeah, just about as tight as your asshole after I've rammed my foot up your ass."

I have no idea how he knows about Nanaya, if he's watched the anime.

Inb4notsukkyanime

>> No.2499066

>>2499039
>>2499025
This

>> No.2499070

Shirou's a buffet of manliness, I can't see why anyone would dislike him.

>> No.2499072

>Inb4notsukkyanime
I read that as 'not sukky anime' and I almost started raging

>> No.2499092
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2499092

Shirou > Shiki

>>2499021

after fusion.

>> No.2499097

>>2499045
I actually like Shiki, since he was sort of a 'counter-emo'. His life was actually shitty, being close to death and all that, but he chooses to enjoy the good things about it rather than dwell on his misfortunes.

Still, I prefer Shirou. There's something about a character whose kindness is actually rooted upon a distorted personality. The moment Ayako mentioned that Shirou never laughed, I was a bit surprised but I never really thought much about it, until I found out later in the story that it was because Shirou was someone who could only be happy when the people around him are.

>> No.2499105

>>2499092
cutting the lines + unlimited blade works
fuck yeah
That pic makes it look like he has earrings though

>> No.2499107

>>2499092
Sugoi shopping.

>> No.2499114

>>2499105
Cutting lines with unlimited sword spammage would be broken as hell.

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2499129

>Shiki looks like a fucking idiot.

Better than most protagonists.

>> No.2499137

>>2499129
That's not what Shiki looks like. If he was like that, he'd be a badass. The way he's drawn looks really stupid.

>> No.2499145

>>2499137
Nanaya Shiki was here,
Tohno Shiki is a loser.

>> No.2499146

>>2499137
That's because it's a 10 year old doujin VN.

>> No.2499147

Shiki has the same color scheme as Naruto and Goku on his shirt.

>> No.2499152

>>2499129
If they make Shiki look like this in the remake it would be pretty awesome.

>> No.2499153

>>2499147
That shirt really is horrible. I hope he's got a new one for the remake.

>> No.2499155
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2499155

I think Shiki looks just fine.

Lancer would have been better with less TIGHT PANTS OH JESUS, but his character makes up for it.

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2499161

Yeah, Shiki's shirt is really shitty. They should fix him in the remake.

>> No.2499168

>>2499155
The uniform costume is actually decent, and the jacket was a nice touch.

But yeah, he needs a new shirt. Heck, I'd even prefer a plain colored shirt over his blue and orange one.

>> No.2499170

>>2499155
Nice jacket, Shikster.

>> No.2499171

>>2499170
Or should I say, jackets.

>> No.2499173

I think Shiki looks pretty good, it's just that the CGs and such in Tsukihime were shit. Wait for the remake.

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>>2499155
And in the mango he looks like half of the other male leads. Wait, doesn't he always?

>> No.2499176

>>2499173
Tsukihime needed more CGs.

And less vampire lectures.

But more bad dreams would be cool.

>> No.2499179

The Shiki x Arc kiss was probably the worst CG in Tsukihime. It looks like she's trying to suck his face off.

>> No.2499182

i wonder if the remake will look as good as F/SN

>> No.2499193

>>2499182
Well, it should be on par with Realta Nua's CGs.

>> No.2499195

>>2499182
Hopefully. Of course, it won't be as "epic" (in the original meaning) as F/SN, as Tsukihime routes are pretty short compared to F/SN. Also, the fights should be more than just a black background with a slash mark and that funky danger jazz piece playing.

>> No.2499197
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2499197

The Nanaya redesign in Battle Moon Wars, and consequently his new battle scenes, are fucking awesome. Well, the second arm not so much because of the beginning, but I'll overlook that.

Shiki's school design is used infinitely more than his orange and blue shirt, so it usually works out.

>> No.2499222

>>2499197
Now that's what Shiki is supposed to look like.

>> No.2499227

>>2499222
But that's how he always looks.

He just has a rape face on all the time.

>> No.2499228

>>2499195
Depends, Nasu could always make the routes longer and more 'epic'.

>> No.2499233

>>2499222
Except werks fucked his knife up. He made it look like Ryougi's.

>> No.2499235

Caster and Rider also look like shit.

inb4 LOL NO

>> No.2499240

>>2499195
>Also, the fights should be more than just a black background with a slash mark and that funky danger jazz piece playing.

Yeah, kind of made things a bit underwhelming.

>> No.2499242

>>2499233
But JC Staff fucked it up way before werks did.

>> No.2499247

>>2499235
LOL NO

>> No.2499251

>>2499235
Caster's design is pretty simple (clothes at least) for it to deserve a 'SHIT' comment.
Almost the same for Rider, made short to emphasize mobility and how hot she is.
The mask and hair attracts way more attention anyway.

>> No.2499255

>>2499182

duke nukem wonders if it's coming out

>> No.2499262

>>2499251
They both look insipid and uninspired

>> No.2499279

>>2499262
Well, then they are just uninteresting.
It's not like they are out of place or horribly bad.

>> No.2499293

>>or horribly bad.
like lancer

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2499299

Oho~
I actually like most of the characters design in Fate. if you're exposed to enough media all of the characters become the same anyway.

>> No.2499320

>>2499293
Yeah. Lancer gets the 'What were they THINKING' design award.

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