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[Anonymous No.]

To the fellow who explained Kant's theory of morals; doesn't Kotomine give a similar explanation as to why Angra Mainyu should be allowed to come into the world in HF?

[Anonymous No.]

fuck janitors, all the remotely interesting threads are gone.

[Anonymous No.]

No, he explains that moppy's actions, even if they are possibly evil, cannot be judged by humans, and that their morality can only be determined by moppy himself.
Which is why one cannot "morally" kill mopyu before giving him a chance, based on Kotomine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492457
Did anyone else think Kotomine was full of 10 kinds of shit?

[Anonymous No.]

Afterthought on>>2492457


Well, there's a difference, Kotomine's explication of why it should come into existence was based upon the fact that it is impossible to know how Moppy will turn out a priori.
Then, when faced with the necessity of Angry Mopyu being bad by human standards, he used relativistic arguments, namely the fact that moppy could consider his own actions in a neutral light instead of thinking he's acting badly.
First would be necessary to judge if moppy's actions could be considered moral, which following Kant's maxim, which applies one's actions to the whole world and tries to determine whether it is harmful or gainful to the whole, it isn't.
I'm no big Kant expert, but Kant's idea of morals depends on WHAT you do and WHY you do it.
So, even if why you do it is not determined by vanity, the fact that what you do, kill everyone, is bad, makes your actions immoral.

So, Kant's explanations and Kotomine's more likely oppose than complement each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492457
Hm... I thought he also said something to the effect of its thought process with relevance to its actions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492463
I thought that Kotomine was using weak arguments which sound okay on the moment but are relatively easy to rebuke if one manages to demonstrate that morals aren't relativistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492472
It's a difficult claim to justify that morals aren't relativistic, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492477
Some people might be able to do it, but I ain't, I say that because I know that some philosophers were able to argue that they weren't.
So, weak argument, I meant that in an absolute manner.
Of course, you and me wouldn't be able to rebuke Kotomine, but people with enough education might do so.
Alas, I am a bit ashamed of myself, discussing Kant here, because I'm most certainly butchering whatever he said, as I am only a student.
That distinc feeling you get when you're discussing a topic you're not completely the master of, you know ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492491
Yeah I know the feeling. I appreciate your insights nonetheless though.

On a different note, is it true that Kotomine and Rider were Nasu's favorite characters in FSN?

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>>2492503
There was a chart that said so IIRC, but I'm not sure I have it.
It showed the ranks Nasu and Takeuchi gave each character.
If anyone has it, it would be nice to post it.
But I do recall Rider being liked by Nasu.
No idea for Kotomine.

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>>2492503
>>2492515

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>>2492522
Ah, thanks, there was another one, too, featuring a list of all characters.
Anyway, thanks, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>2492522
So what are the points of interest on this image? It seems Takeuchi likes Saber and Berserker and Nasu likes Kotomine and Rider. Anything else?

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>>2492555
Dunno, I don't read jap, bro.