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Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:16:38 2009 No.2457727 [Reply] [Original]

/j/ i really love historical novels, especially men in military and their lives, like things about the life of Alexander the Great etc. now recently i realized that i have never read anything about Japanese military and generally suck with Japanese history, can /jp/ recommend any good books i could pick?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:21:38 2009 No.2457747 Gai-jin by James Clavel Mostly Fiction but its pretty good on its depiction on pre Meji restoration japan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:22:38 2009 No.2457749 There's nothing worth knowing about Japanese history.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:22:38 2009 No.2457752 >books Pfft, just watch Letters from Iwo Jima and you'll be golden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:27:38 2009 No.2457776 >>2457747 hmm...I might as well pick it up, but according to amazon it has a lot of anachronisms and is focused on well... gai-jins. >>2457749 and why is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:28:38 2009 No.2457780 >>2457752 sorry, i prefer books, they are more fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:29:38 2009 No.2457786 >>2457747 Also "Shinto" by Jean Herbert. Its non-fiction but it gives a pretty good history of religion in japan- Shinto origions and the rise of Budism and Confusiouism. It also has most of the Shinto Storys about its various higher dietys in it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:32:38 2009 No.2457798

>>2457776
Yeah It for the most part is told through the eyes of a English translator working in japan just after Perry rocked up and Let loose with his cannons. But it also Follows a Japanese lord giving you a good look at japans political and philisopical hirachys, and a Ronen in the early anti shogunate movment Giving you a good veiw of the samerai class and it dealing with the merchent and peasent classes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:33:38 2009 No.2457801 Rather than Gai-Jin, I think you should read Shogun. Its far more better, although a little meandering sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:34:38 2009 No.2457804 >>2457798 Fucking Christ, do you have any idea how hard it is to read that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:36:38 2009 No.2457809 >>2457798 Ugh. If you read the book how do you not know how to spell 'Ronin' 'Peasant' and 'Merchant'

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:37:38 2009 No.2457814 >>2457801 ugh.. is it anything like the movie/mini-series?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:38:38 2009 No.2457819 >>2457809 Knowing and doing are two differant things. Im a lazy typist who doesn't double check.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:39:38 2009 No.2457824 >>2457801 I havent been able to find a copy of shogun. Written by the same guy isn't it?

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:40:38 2009 No.2457826

>>2457814
I couldn't sit through those. I hated those after like half an hour. I think that the book is far better than that show. But then again, I am more of a book person. Give it chance, it doesn't have the questionable acting/sfx/dialogue of the mini-series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:41:38 2009 No.2457832 >>2457824 Yeah, James Clavel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:41:38 2009 No.2457834 You can try reading Yoshikawa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiji_Yoshikawa

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:42:38 2009 No.2457835 >>2457819 I'm very lazy, but I almost never make any mistakes and I automatically mentally adjust for them before they appear onscreen most of the time. It really doesn't take any effort at all.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:42:38 2009 No.2457836

Forget Gai-jin and Shogun. Horrible crap.

I suggest the book "Musashi" by Eiji Yoshikawa. Great historical fiction by one of the most famous Japanese writers of the genre! It's the story of the life of Miyamoto Musashi, one of the most famous samurai of the Edo period. Great writing that is a joy to read and gives you a lot of insight into Japanese history, art, culture, and the political climate of the time, as long as being a great story with great characters. Check it out!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:43:38 2009 No.2457839 >>2457819 Lazy had nothing to do with that... The keys you pushed weren't even close to the right ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:43:38 2009 No.2457841 >>2457836 http://www.amazon.com/Musashi-Eiji-Yoshikawa/dp/4770019572

>>	「ロリあき」 Mon Apr 20 08:43:38 2009 No.2457842 >>2457826 I had to watch it in my first year Japanese class, back in 1998. I enjoyed it, but I haven't since seen it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:45:38 2009 No.2457850 >>2457842 Maybe it's just me, but I find the show really hard to sit through, I tried recently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:47:38 2009 No.2457856 >>2457836 Pssh, don't bother with this. Just play Brave Fencer Musashi. And Kojiro is way better than Musashi, anyway, so also read Fate/stay night. Sarcasm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:51:38 2009 No.2457869 >>2457836 >>2457841 oh, this definitely looks like something i would enjoy.

>>	JRPG Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:58:38 2009 No.2457894 File: 351 KB, 1680x1050, 1217835990107.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can anyone recommend a JRPG which uses simple Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 08:59:38 2009 No.2457900 >>2457894 Not entirely sure that goes here....

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 09:01:38 2009 No.2457909 >>2457900 JRPGs? Well, /v/ doesn't seem to want them...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 09:01:38 2009 No.2457910 >>2457894 Those headphones look expensive...

>>	「ロリあき」 Mon Apr 20 09:01:38 2009 No.2457912 >>2457894 All the NES ones. Not kidding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 09:07:38 2009 No.2457927 >>2457912 Serious? Thanks.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 09:10:38 2009 No.2457941

I just read "So Sad to Fall in Battle: An Account of War".

Nonfiction, translated from jap to english, the book that Letters From Iwo Jima is based on. Basically all you could ever want to know about General Kuribayashi and the Battle of Iwo Jima. Definitely recommend it if you're at all interested in the Greater East Asia War. Also, found it at local public library in a small town in South Florida, so it shouldn't be too hard to acquire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 09:14:38 2009 No.2457956 >>2457941 thanks, will do! yes, military and famous strategist/warriors/tacticians are what interest me the most at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:12:38 2009 No.2458801 >>2457727 relevant to my interest

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