Touhou Fantasies thread

[Anonymous No.]

Continuing on from this thread: >>24147631

Basically, have you ever fantasized about living in Gensokyo? Share your stories and fantasies in here

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>>24553346
Yeah

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>>24553346
Other questions
(How) would you seek to gain power?
Where would you want to live?
Who would you like to befriend?
What do you generally plan to do?

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>>24554903
The taoist seems the better option they live in senkai that's is like a different place apart from gensokyo so you will be safe from any youkai it would be good if you befriend all of the taoist and you will be protected and what I would do will be training so I can travel thru gensokyo without fear

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>>24556696
Miko is a massive meritocratic though. She´s basically only going to give you a chance to learn Taoist magic if you proof yourself to be very capable.

Also being a Taoist hermit is pretty shit.

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
You do not.

>Where would you want to live?
The human village. Everywhere else is a death sentence.

>Who would you like to befriend?
Mokou and Keine.

>What do you generally plan to do?
Go home.

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The best thing you could do will be becoming an oni is said that the methods of oni hunting are long forgotten so you will be technically invincible youkais won't attack you humans will fear you and you would be partying everyday is like the best thing you can do




You will be a chad and

And onis doesn't need human flesh to survive you can only eat regular animal meat and drink a lot of sake

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>>24559797
Except the shrine maiden

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>>24559921
Yes but dont anger her you can stay party rocking in former hell and nothing bad will happen and onis are still hard to kill so you can run away and as I said onis doesn't need to eat human flesh the only one that it was known to eat humans was kasen and she stopped doing it so being an oni is the best thing you can do

Also onis dont lie do traps or cheat, so you being human and becoming a oni you will still be able to lie and cheat and do traps and also being really fucking strong is the best thing a win win situation

You will be probably the smartest oni so that's a lot of reputation in the oni village too

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>>24554903
>Find your local deity
>Form a contract with them
>Make said deity will depend on you and vice versa
>BAM! your protected and have your own longevity

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>>24560002
>traps
;)

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>>24560162
For example?

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So as I said onis master race

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>>24559797
>the methods of oni hunting are long forgotten
and then the inchling kills you

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>>24560162
Who are you quoting?

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>>24561142
There is only one left for what I know and with your outside world knowledge you can easily kill her making her race extinct

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>>24553346
I’am dead. Not big surprise.

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>>24561142
Cute

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>>24553346
The thought scares me if you consider the fact that the place is filled with youkai.
IF it were safe for a human I'd love to go to hell and hit a few bars.

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>>24561576
I mean, you could fantasize being a Youkai if you want

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
Nope. No interest in being powerful. Just comfortable.

>Where would you want to live?
The most realistic option is the Scarlet Devil Mansion - One of the most intriguing things to consider in my case is that my Japanese is borderline nonexistent and unless magical fantasy land fixes that, knocking on the SDM's door and asking to be taught the local language in exchange for a period of service or whatever other compensation Remilia wants would be my best bet. If that winds up with me as vampire food instead, so be it, there are worse ways to go.

Even without that consideration, the SDM would still be a strong consideration for me because I like Remilia, Patchouli, Sakuya and Flan more than most casts/households in Gensokyo. But pretty much anywhere with a population of more than 1 or 2 named characters that isn't the Village (Boring) or the Forest Of Magic (Not really my style) would be fun. Eientei, any of the religious communities, Chireiden, etc. Not really into the solitary hermit life, though.

>Who would you like to befriend?
Anybody/everybody. Certainly beats pissing them off.

>What do you generally plan to do?
Live the comfortable slow-paced life, get a front row seat to any incidents that occur. Just chill and occasionally mingle with 2hus that aren't living in the same general area as me whenever there's a reason to (Such as a party at the Hakurei Shrine).

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>>24561643
I think there was a way of becoming a oni but I dont remember what it was

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>>24561751
Kasen's Sake box; if you drink from it while you're not wounded it turns you into an oni.

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>>24562036
You'd have to drink a lot for a long while
But there are easier ways

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>>24561643
>fantasize being a Youkai
humanity is king, the youkai are so scared of humans they had to make their own safe space from the world
i fantasize about liberating the oppressed human population by invading gensokyo with the full might and power of human achievement
and i don't mean with only weapons, that's such simple thinking for gensokyo, a place of fantasy. it would have to be fought ideologically - i think i could do wonders bringing the joys of modern banking and finance to gensokyo, followed by all sorts of great human topics

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>>24562036
>>24562074
Easy no problem drinking
The only problem would be taking that from kasen or convince her of giving it to you

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>>24562097
Shut up miko

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>>24562097
What's up with the politics? I would just wanna grill with my two youkai subordinates in a place where no-one could get to with a power that's able to get me basically anything I want

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>>24562121
Yeah no shit, I doubt she'd just let you do that. That's why I said it's so problematic. If't'd be just one sip and you're done then no problem. But how are you going to get a continuous supply of it? I think you need to drink it for months, maybe even years before you turn into an oni. How are you going to get that much? Let alone convince Kasen to give it to you every single time?

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>>24562177
Give her the D

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>>24554903
>Where would you want to live?
Besides Moriya shrine, Koumakan, and possibly the human settlement, which places are likely to have toilets that flush and you can actually sit on?

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>>24562177
Actually wait, I'm dumb; it's if you're hurt and actually healed by it you turn into an oni. No-one was hurt in the storyline it appeared in though, so no-one went oni. If you had even an open scab though, you would probably become an oni.

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>>24562203
Eientei I'd imagine (Lunarians are super advanced) and probably Mayohiga

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>>24562138
HEY HEY
HO HO
THE YOUKAI MENACE HAS GOT TO GO
>>24562176
i very much enjoy them and i wish to spread that joy to gensokyo

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>>24562240
So you just wanna be Miko, huh?
Well, damn; can't fault you for that. A last boss is always at least pretty decent. Not as good as a phantasm boss though~

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>>24562240
Miko steaks when

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>>24562365
soon, hopefully
better be shaped like the mask of hope, too

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>>24562404
What an ugly mask I can do better
>>24562207
Also I can convince kasen to hand it over so I can become an oni, onis aren't that smart and I am a human I am smarter than an oni so if I become an oni I would be a smart oni

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>>24562036
>>24562074
Oh then I should already be fucking set. I already drink enough to put down a horse.

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>>24563048
Yes me brother, oni master race!!

[Anonymous No.]

But first of all let's say hypothetically you get dragged into gensokyo what will be the first thing that you do when you arrive and I mean something serious who do you seek for help and what you do too survive the first week if you dont find help

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>>24563320
Like you need too survive by yourself of course you have some things from the outside world too help you so what do you do in the first weeks and what is your inventory of things you wish too have if you fall in gensokyo

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>>24563320
>dragged into gensokyo
it would depend on where i end up. if i land in the human village things are easy. if i land in the middle of the SDM it probably will never turn out good for me
until i find safety i will follow all the rules of being "spirited away" i know of european fae things, which is basically "talk to no one" and "don't eat or do anything that you cannot be very certain of the outcome." i certainly am not going to go to any youkai for help
>what you do too survive the first week if you dont find help
i mean even outside of gensokyo the answer would be "die" because i'm not a farmer nor experienced in survivalist training. any human would be wise to seek the company of other humans - youkai are monsters and should be killed if possible and avoided if not

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
Magic, maybe learning some sword skills? I wonder if youmu the dork could be a teacher.
>Where would you want to live?
Forest of magic or the bamboo one, maybe close to the mist lake.
>Who would you like to befriend?
Anyone that i could, mostly marisa, suika and patchy, because i like then.
>What do you generally plan to do?
Survive, learn magic, eventually try to find some way to achieve immortality without the elixir or being a youkai like marisa seems to be trying to do, if that fails go magician route of elixir route.

Honestly, i am so done with this world and my life that i would legit accept any offer to be dropped anywhere without even thinking twice.
I just want to get drunk with suika, dammit.

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
I wouldn't
>Where would you want to live?
Preferably Yuukas garden
>Who would you like to befriend?
Yuuka, maybe some of the fairies if I could
>What do you generally plan to do?
Find Yuuka and then probably die.

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>>24564754
Yuuka don't kill people randomly, you may not die but im not sure if she would be ok with you living on the garden of the sun.

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>>24564804
Maybe just near it then, also I feel pretty certain that a youkai like Yuuka might just kill you if you bother them, like a human wouldn't be too concerned about running over a squirrel or a chipmunk.

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>>24564956
It really depends of what "bother" her, she does go the village from time to time to buy seeds and is pretty polite.
Also maybe try to form some friendship before asking to live in the garden would be a good idea.

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>>24565038
She IS stated to really not like humans, or at least be a major threat to humans if they meet her. I think the way a youkai behaves in the village as opposed to out of it is pretty different. But yeah, actually starting a friendship would be important. I just don't think that, based of all her speaking appearances, she would allow a random human who showed up near her or her garden to live. As I interpret the games, gensokyo beyond the village is incredibly deadly to humans.

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>>24564754
>>24564804
>>24564956
>>24565038
>>24565200
That's the reason why becoming an oni is the best option

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>>24565242
But becoming any youkai is near impossible for a human, let alone an Oni.

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>>24565264
Kasen sake box

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>>24563320
I'd had to the bamboo forest
Some dreamer told me Mokou's a pretty nice gal

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>>24564804
I wonder if that's where al the PC-98 chars reside (Or at least hang) now

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>>24565200
By whom is she stated that?

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>>24565696
ZUN

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>>24565636
A yes I was there too in that thread

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>>24565748
Of course, but when

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>>24565788
Cant remember

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>>24565636
Ayyyyy.

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>>24565808
The thing is; PC-98, Genocide is just a game Yuuka and, uh, now Yuuka are completely different.
She has been shown to be completely hostile but I also remember her being one of the friendliest youkai
So it really matters

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>>24565849
It was pmiss that described her like that. Also, I've been reading more of what ZUN said about the PC_98 games and he never said they were non-canon or semi-canon, just that the windows games override stuff said in the pc-98 games if it contradicts. I'm not sure why people started saying that PC-98 wasn't canon.

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>>24566013
Yeah, I know
I'm saying she's changed

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>>24566050
I mean, maybe. Besides a small scene in the manga I've never seen anything like that.

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>>24565849
Her going to the village to buy seeds is forom a post eosd book, it even has the flower shop owner saying that she is polite but scare the shit out of everyone.
I will try to find it later

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>>24565849
>>24568890
"Don't fuck with the villagers" is longstanding rule, so she could just be abiding by that, putting on a good face for business reasons

What she'd do if you fucked about on her land uninvited is another question

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>>24570303
Isn't Eikie's talk with Yuuka about how she should scare humans more and doesn't do it enough?

I'd wager she might actually have a soft spot for powerless humans (and not just humans who need a bit of power but actually powerless ones)

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>>24553346
Yeah all the time. I create stories in my head before bedtime. It helps me find sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a peculiar thought right now...
What if medieval knights like crusaders arrived at gensokyo?
That would be funny I think

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>>24579388
Yes

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>>24560162
>Find local deity.
Christian deity has more important things to do than hang around Gensokyo all day.

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>>24562097
Based. Gensokyo should be burned down to the ground and the people liberated.

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>>24564659
>Youmu.
Nah. She doesn't interact with people often. And good luck learning magic.

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>>24565303
The chance of actually getting that from Kasen is next to none.

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>>24585481
Kasen is a good girl you can convince her
She used to be bad but now she is good
And if she doesn't wants well she likes food so convience her with food being her chef

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>>24585928
The best way to get in to the heart of a woman is through her stomach

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>>24586019
I usually go through the ribcage, it's a little messy but it's damn fast.

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>>24587775
If you have a thin enough blade is shan't be a problem

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>>24587775
>>24589954
Fuck you I plan on marrying kasen not kill her maybe if I marry her I would get the "gensokyo citizenship and nationality"

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>>24598801
Kasen can probably score you a green card

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>>24598876
That's the best thing she is a nice girl

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Just Try not to be an ichling near kasen
You ar going to have a bad day if

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>>24599069
Isn't she hiding her war crimes in Afghanistan?

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>>24604032
No, Kasen did not kill 17 men and women and 6 children in Afghanistan

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>>24604050
Kasen definitely does not support the use of White Phosphorus

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>>24604091
Remilia does not support the use of mustard gas

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>>24604050
Those children were terrorists

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>>24604032
there are no geneva conventions in gensokyo

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>>24579388
Most probable scenario is that after giving the Youkai and Village a little scare, they're wiped out because all the religious institutions in place have every reason NOT to let big G's teachings into Gensokyo.

The coolest scenario is that they run into the fairies.

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>>24605186
They could win and you know it the Buddhists and taoist are scared of the power of Allah

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>>24605186
Also the fairies scenario would be legit funny imagine big ass knights in full plate armor chilling out with fairies

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>>24605186
actually the most probably scenario is the second more than one christian knight arrived in gensokyo they would instantly schism over some small difference in doctrine like whether or not it is okay to eat altar bread, and immediately go to war against each other

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>>24606999
You dropped your fedora by the door, anon

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>>24610054
Yeah he should have been preaching about how jesus saved him from his porn "addiction" instead.

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>>24606999
The taoist would be the first on getting killed in holy war

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>>24610054
anon, i'm not an atheist. but only the most oblivious christian would deny that infighting is common

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?

Maybe learn magic or something religous, maybe use my already knowledge of Gensokyo to trick the residents into thinking I'm something I'm not

>Where would you want to live?

Somewhere quiet but still with a lot of access. Preferably something like Senkai or Hakugyokurou

>Who would you like to befriend?
EVERYONE

>What do you generally plan to do?

Survive, learn, live, be happy for once in my life

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>>24616095
King, the last part hit really close

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>>24616095
>be happy for once in my life
gross

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>>24617442
Gensokyo is the ultimate escapist fantasy. That's literally what it is

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>>24570303
Do you really think yuuka gives a fuck about the "dont fuck with the villagers" law?

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>>24623140
i don't think the youkai particularly like it when the genocidal shrine maiden or the gap hag take a particular interest in their affairs

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>>24571291
Eiki's talk with yuuka is about how she has lived too long, thats where the "yuuka is old as fuck even for a youkai" thing comes from.

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>>24623166
I'm talking about yuuka, pretty sure if some villager retard tried to exterminate her he would die.

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>>24623209
oh well of course, but the context was in the village she would be cordial because of that rule. what she would do to humans in the garden, especially hostile ones, is probably the stuff of nightmares

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>>24617778
I mean, only if you ignore all of the actual lore and just make up your own version.

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>>24623140
Yuuka seems to have her own version of that law that basically comes down to "Don't fuck with my garden". She'll leave people alone, maybe even chat with them with for a bit if they show proper respect. But if you damage any one of her flowers...

>>24623166
I mean, considering what kind of a people Yukari and Reimu are. The both of them would probably just argue that anybody that pisses off Yuuka enough to get killed has it coming.

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>>24623249
Not really. Gensokyo was made for escapists, the only beings who enter it are those forgotten by society. Humans are no exception.
Survival is possible you just have to know what you're doing

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>>24623166
Yuuka was once considered the strongest Youkai, though that title has since been lost she's nothing to fuck with even for Reimu and her benefactor.

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>>24623339
>Not really. Gensokyo was made for escapists, the only beings who enter it are those forgotten by society
No. People that enter Gensokyo are those forgotten and those that are abducted by Yukari to be eaten. Not like most people that are forgotten do any better on average.

>Survival is possible you just have to know what you're doing
Which outsiders in canon very explicitly do not.

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>>24623703
I imagine if anyone here did know about gensokyo, upon arriving the only knowledge they would possess is that they'd heard about a forest full of man-eating monsters called youkai before and to be very, very afraid.

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>>24623813
What caliber would be enough to defend yourself in gensokyo .44 50 I dont know more I'm lazy thinking, a titanium knife or axe could work to

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>>24623703
I said people who enter Gensokyo are those forgotten, then you said I was wrong and then said the same thing...
By outsiders I mean we. And we definitely do

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>>24624184
You can get in gensokyo if you are forgotten or lost not locational lost but the other way of being lost and if you get gapped

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>>24624184
>I said people who enter Gensokyo are those forgotten, then you said I was wrong and then said the same thing...
I also added that it includes people that are basically viewed as mobile dinner,

>By outsiders I mean we. And we definitely do
You can't go to Gensokyo. Nor do you exist in the Touhou universe.

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>>24624259
Read the title of this thread

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>>24624259
>You can't go to Gensokyo. Nor do you exist in the Touhou universe.
anon, don't mistake the suspension of disbelief and in-setting discussion as delusion and inability to distinguish fact from fiction

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To be honest, believe something like gensokyo exists isnt any different than any religion that exist or existed.

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>>24624392
Look, I just think it´s a misguided to pretend that you can make Gensokyo work for you because you have meta knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

I fantasized about hugging a 'hu while I squeezed my pillow last night... it was a really warm, if fleeting, feeling.

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>>24630213
Meta knowledge IS the best knowledge

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>>24630492
I do it every night to help me fall asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24631158
Do you have a particular go to 2hu you like to hug, or does it depend on your mood?

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>>24630655
It's also not a reason why you would survive in Gensokyo though. Either 1: Meta knowledge is the norm and most Youkai would be prepared to use it against you. 2: It's not and you wouldn't have it either if you were send to Gensokyo.

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>>24634381
I doubt Youkai can access the Touhou wiki. Seeing as they have no electricity nor cell coverage nor world wide web nor Touhou wiki

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>>24634381
There's also the possibility that I'm pulled across dimensions, since a. Gensokyo is not a found thing, and the outside world is just one of many connected to it. b. Gensokyos are mirrors (or shadows) of the original Gensokyo and the city of Amber shines alight once again

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>>24634926
You are talking about multiverse tho what type of multiverse, bubble multiverse which Is infinite so there's the obvious chance that one of then is a universe with a gensokyo or a multiverse limited by the number of particles in a universe

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>>24635643
I'm talking about a line. Then many of them

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>>24635803
Explain yourself better

[Anonymous No.]

Either: 1 Gensokyo, somewhere. (Every) many outside worlds conncted to it
Or 1 original Amber Gensokyo and many of it's mirrors (shadows) cast across all dimensions.

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>>24637085
Universes* dimensions is the wrong term because I dont know a gensokyo with only length

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>>24637371
I know what I said

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>>24627519
I'm sure there's an interesting anthropological study to be made on Touhou's resemblance to a polytheistic religion not only in content, but also in practice. For example, much of the Ancient Greek hymns were derivative works of Homer's plays that could be enjoyed by those who had never experienced the source material, making them not too dissimilar from today's doujin works.

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>>24637371
>I dont know a gensokyo with only length
i can't believe there are fans that don't have 1 dimension gensokyo fantasies

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>>24638990
Just straight lines doing what?
Going worm?

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>>24639095
the entire universe would just be a line
it makes the danmaku VERY hard though

[Anonymous No.]

>>24639095
Going snek

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>>24637371
I specifically meant dimensions. You can't connect lines across a multi-universal mirror
Ask sendai

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>>24638218
I like the idea. I've spent so much time in this fictional world through all the available content that it sometimes feels like it exists somewhere.

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>>24640289
It could be that, that indeed gensokyo exist and we cant reach it, or you are just delusional

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>>24632026
Not him but I do the same thing, just more like living and chatting with a character than just hugging. Depends on mood but these days I like imagining living in the village with Sekibanki, and sometimes meeting other 2hu like Kosuzu, Kogasa and the grassroot youkai.

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>>24640536
yeah, I do this too.
I like to imagine Reimu making me do shrine related tasks like sweeping while we're both terribly hungover and grumpy, and then I get sad that I'll never experience this in real life.

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>>24624259
I'm allowed to have an escapist fantasy, mate

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>>24651470
I imagine murdering Reimu. Thus ending the most powerful bloodline in all of Gensokyo as a mere outsider.

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>>24652245
Yes. But there are enough isekai for you to use as a escapist fantasy. Touhou is not one of them in canon.

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>>24652299
Isekai have a plot
Touhou is just escapism

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>>24652330
Canon Touhou both has a plot, or at least several of them, and is not escapism. It´s more like the exact opposite of escapism.

Stop trying to force a round peg into a square hole.

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>>24652343
Not a consecutive plot. Only an overarching one, with isolated subjects
In of itself, there is no greater evil, there is no heroic quest or any for the matter of it.
Everyone just does their thing

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>>24638218
I see no problem in someone believing in some random anime god as their god, there is no difference, both YHWH and lets say suwako have the same amount of concrete evydence of their existence, pretty much none.
So if some fag come to me and say that every night he prays to Madoka or some shit i would be totally fine with it.
I personally like to have some faith for this illusion.

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>>24640536
>>24651470
Same.
I am so alone.

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>>24640536
>>24651470
>>24662214
Not only do I see no problem with it, I actually need it. The hope, even though little to none, keeps me going.
Otherwise I don't know if i'd even bother waking up in the morning

[Anonymous No.]

I like to imagine that Gensokyo is real, somewhere out there, even if I'll probably never make it there myself

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>>24652423
Touhou does this the best, it's one of the rare series where time and events also occur within the real world. It all adds up and it really makes you think that they're all still in gensokyo and always will be.

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>>24662204
I mean suwako is pretty much girl version of lord suwa so even that God has been worshipped by people before

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>>24562097
I'm pretty sure i read somewhere on the wiki that the average human is more powerful than the average youkai. Or at least that youkai have many more weaknesses than humans.

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>>24684708
Only the human villagers are, outsiders are quite the prey, since they're not protected by any law or would cause a disruption of balance by being killed since they're literally outsiders

And as for Youkai weaknesses...
Youkai have weaknesses
They're hardly used
But when they do
Oh boy when they do

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>>24684708
>I'm pretty sure i read somewhere on the wiki
The wiki is full of retarded fanon interpretations. It's only useful as a resource guide for what to read in order to ACTUALLY learn about Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how youkais react when exposed to high levels of radiation

Or antimatter

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>>24687074
it's a mystery

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

>>24553346
I'd go back if I could.

Reposting my first time writing it so I don't burn three posts: >>24342074

>>24554903
>Power?
Nope. I am me. If I could learn magic just from an academic perspective that'd be interesting.

>Where?

Either go back and pester Mokou or the human village.

>Who?

Mokou definitely, Keine also yes. Something tells me I might get on well with Marisa, but on the other hand there's certain challenges there.

Sumireko definitely, it'd be good to have someone who understands some of the same cultural references sometimes- though she's not a full-time resident.

>What?

I'm going to live as comfortably as I can and try to enjoy my second chance.

>>24561142
If I can I'd bring my immersion circulator with me.

>But why?
So I can use a basin and some power source to power it, and give her an inchling-sized onsen for her to chill in on the table.

[Anonymous No.]

You don't dream big enough, anons. Who wants to be a lowly h*man, trapped in the isolated stagnation of a single dingy village lest you tempt a gruesome fate outside its walls? My god, can you even fly? This is a fantasy anyway, why not be a cute youkai girl for the rest of your days? Don't live in terror; take to terror to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24704027
Because I don't care about any of that
I just want to be happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>24704453
Exactly a simple life with happiness is all I need

[Anonymous No.]

>>24704027
if i went to a world where magic is real, surely I could learn how to fly if i applied myself. i wouldn't want to be a human because of the language barrier though, and being a youkai would be more fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
If one were to hypothetically get sucked into Gensokyo, what would you have to do in order to develop a firearm from scratch?
Even assuming you had enough technical knowledge, you would still need to do a lot of networking to get the necessary materials, networking with people that have no reason to not kill you.
I'm going to spit out a couple necessary steps / random ideas
>you would need to find three large pieces of granite or iron in order to develop a perfectly level surface plate as a foundation for precision measurement, beginning with a straight edge
>you would need to develop an arbitrary system of distance units
>Rinnosuke, Nitori, and other people that are curious about items from the outside world probably have something that was made with screws. The screw threads could be used as reference for developing unit measurements
>Although you can never be too wary, I assume youkai like Nitori wouldn't kill an outside human if they have technical knowledge
>a compass for making relatively perfect circles should be easy to create, once you have a straight edge and a compass there is a plethora of things you can do with them such as construction of perfect angles and polygons
>you could also make an arbitrary measurement system from the compass and surface plate; assuming you can make a perfect wheel out of some material (I can't think of a way to be certain about how circular it is beyond eyeballing it, as we don't have a lathe yet) you can mark a point on the wheel and roll it across your straight edge, marking the point of contact on the straight edge will turn it into a ruler
>if you want smaller units of measurement, you use the straight edge to draw a line from that point through the center of the wheel, then use the straight edge and compass to construct a perpendicular bisector so there are now four 90 degree angles in the center of the wheel and four points on the circumference, any angle can be bisected with a straight edge and compass so you can continue doubling the amount of points on the outside of the wheel, therefore doubling the amount of units on your ruler
>the Scarlet Devil Mansion has a clock tower and Sakuya has a pocket watch, if you can approach without getting killed it would be worth investigating where and how the gears for those were created
>Alice stuffs some of her dolls with gunpowder, you need to befriend her somehow (you can probably only do this by befriending Marisa first) so that you can find out where she gets gunpowder
>although you will never be able to make anything as advanced as a modern weapon you can incorporate rudimentary magic into your designs (for example, you could bypass the need for a trigger or a primer mechanism by using some kind of fire magic to ignite the powder)
Not to mention you would need to find somewhere to live and a way to get food on the table during all of this.
If you have any ideas on how we could develop a lathe I'd love to hear, by the way I'm quoting myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
I don't think anyone could get a hold on a large electric motor, internal combustion engine, or steam engine in Gensokyo. I think that the only forms of power available for a lathe would be water power, and animal power. The British used an early lathe made by Jan Verbruggen in the late 18th century as a boring machine to create more accurate cannons. I think that a similar machine would be feasible with the resources available in Gensokyo. Apparently though, this lathe is only "technically" a lathe, and really had no applications besides creating objects such as cannons. I don't know accurate it was as well, or how to make an accurate lathe at all.

Apparently gunpowder could be made from human urine by leaving it in straw for months, until saltpeter could be extracted and used.

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

>>24707740
You can make gunpowder fairly easy.

Softwood charcoal, sulfur, and a nitrate salt at 12.5, 12.5, and 75% by weight. You can estimate this with a balance easily- use a distinct-looking rock as your weight. One rock, one rock, eight rocks' worth. You may have problems making or getting nitrate, but the villagers may trade it to you.

Failing trade, you can make it thru a variety of methods.

Grinding it finely will help but your best bet is wet milling- which you can do with river stones in a cask and a creek. From there granulate it thru a mesh, which is hard to make but a size about the texture of kosher salt is around the right particle size for a gun's black powder will work.

A fuse can be made with rice straw filled with gunpowder, and sealed/coated with lacquer, wax or tar to prevent the powder from getting wet.

TL;DR if you can make bread from wheat you can make gunpowder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
>>24708273
>>24708560
I've been waiting for years for an excuse to post this video.
https://youtu.be/qTy3uQFsirk

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
Don't bring a gun to a danmaku fight

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if you can find titanium in gensokyo or tungsten, those a really tough and resistant materials tho if you cant find that then try to make carbon steel

[Anonymous No.]

>>24709830
I forgot to add a question, are taoist nice enough to help you in something?

[Anonymous No.]

Just gonna lighten the mood here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24710221

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>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
Plan A would be to attempt to befriend Seiga, but since I know that'd be impossible, I'd probably instead try and make myself useful to her. Plan B, and the far more likely scenario would be to be bitten by Yoshika
>Where would you want to live?
With Seiga and Yoshika
>Who would you like to befriend?
Seiga and Yoshika
>What do you generally plan to do?
Be with Seiga and Yoshika

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
Learning magic by my own. The local librairy got a necronomicon so i will be fine
>Where would you want to live?
Human village at first but then try to live in the magic forest
>Who would you like to befriend?
Marisa and others magicians
>What do you generally plan to do?
Just learning magic until my death.
Gensokyo don't have real limit on what you can do with magic or faith so why living like a peasent when you can be a wizard or a super monk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24705674
We actually already discussed this, different languages are probably not something that exists
Everyone probably just magically understand Japanese or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
Orrrrrrrrrrr you can just do what the ancienct Egyptians did and use string for circles and that wood thing to make straight edges and leveled surfaces
See Dr. Stone's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOpioKLNtrk

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
Did you literally forget pi exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>24708560
Can't you get Nitrate from seash... oh right, no sea

[Anonymous No.]

>>24708560
Don't you mean 6 rocks?
75/12.5=6

[Anonymous No.]

>>24722705
Or just raise gods and make them shape the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>24559797
>chad
I hate that "Chad" replaced Alpha. Chads are sort of α-. Who wants to be an idiot, even if α? Wouldn't you rather be α+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24727341
Mmm, how is an alpha plus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24707740
sorry guys, I just realized like a full day later that lines (not just angles) can be bisected/trisected with straight edge and compass construction, which means my whole idea of the reference wheel rolling across the straight edge was overly complicated. I still think my idea was neat though, it might have some kind of use

>>24708812
Just watched the whole thing and thats fucking sick, I like the little department in the stock for the cloth. And I guess I need to add files to the list of things that need to be created if I ever get spirited away.
However a muzzleloader won't be enough to defend from youkai, it might take more than one shot to kill them and if you miss there wouldn't be enough time to reload. Something like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-uS02VGb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx8R3K11Gts
I think are still feasible to make by hand and would give you a stronger chance against youkai.

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

>>24726880
They sum to 100.

12.5+12.5+75 = 100.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24652423
>Not a consecutive plot. Only an overarching one, with isolated subjects
That still counts as a plot. And stuff does change in Gensokyo.

>There is no heroic quest or any for the matter of it.
Most incidents are quests of a sort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24684708
That was basically only true in PCB era Gensokyo. Back when ZUN had yet to really work out the lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24722705
Learning magic is not that easy. If it was, every human villager would be a mage.

[Anonymous No.]

My only Touhou fantasy is wiping out the Hakurei family, killing the youkai sages, and liberating the human villagers.

It's really not much different from most hero fantasies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
As a human I don't need any more power than the ability to disbelieve magic.
>Where would you want to live?
In a human village for humans.
>Who would you like to befriend?
Sumi I guess? No wait, she uses "magic", stuff that can't exist.
>What do you generally plan to do?
Point my accusatory finger destroying magic and helping the village with technology, if possible breaking the barrier by saying really loudly "tear down this wall".

[Anonymous No.]

>>24720067
Isn't Sega literally evil? And isn't Yoshika effectively braindead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24729101
>That still counts as a plot. And stuff does change in Gensokyo.
And it's enough of a not there to let you be an escapist. Some of the incidents don't even cause any harm, and many of them are localised.
>Most incidents are quests of a sort.
Quests have a cause and an end goal. Here Reimu just goes and beats whoever is causing trouble. Wiping my ass after I go to the pooper is also a quest of a sort, doesn't mean it counts

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

I was talking to my mother earlier today, and she made an offhand comment about the time I went missing for half an hour before my nana's funeral.

>be me, walking along in this place looking around
>see a doorway in the stone wall
>get curious about how nobody else looked at it, whats there?
>go thru it
>more forest, but it doesn't feel fake, feels like some wild place
>come across a woman sitting in a clearing
>blonde hair, eyes like dusk
>talk with her for a few minutes, she goes into detail about magic
>don't remember anything she said past that the incantations and circles are just there to help focus, it's something innate that one learns to focus
>"When you're older you'll understand, then we'll talk over tea. Now go, your mother is waiting."
>nod, turn around, bolt because I realized I left my mother
>pop out a few feet from where I went in
>mother grabs me and asks me where I went
>look back to where I came out, it's just wall
>shrug
>get shooed into the room for the funeral

I figured this was something I dreamt the night after until earlier.

Kinda freaks me out when I look back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24720067
>seiga
Thats a horribly bad idea, she is too wicked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24729123
People are lazy, if marisa could magic as a fucking preteen/teen then i can if i try hard enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
Oh my, how interesting.
You seem to have a interesting life or you at least is intesting for someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24737789
Marisa had Mima.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24738233
And i have books and marisa if i find a way for at least have her teach me the basic.
If not, BOOKS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
Probably was yukari

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
it sounds like Yukari has taken something of an interest in you. Makes you wonder why you were brought back from Gensokyo the second time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
Whelp you managed to fuck up being gapped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24738276
Marisa has neither the time, the inclination, or the character to teach you magic. And good luck getting books that can actually teach you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736668
>And it's enough of a not there to let you be an escapist
What prevents Gensokyo from being escapist is the lore and the world, not the plot or the absence of one.

>Quests have a cause and an end goal.
99% of incidents have a cause, with the end goal nearly always being to stop them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24741732
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
>inb4 mokou asked yukari to find you

[Anonymous No.]

>>24561160
You are reddit and you must go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24708560
>kosher salt
>kosher
Hmmm, I wonder what you are... (hint: jew).

[Anonymous No.]

>>24744197
I also called kosher salt and I am not even a jew no one in my family is I just say it like that because it sounds cool

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

>>24744197
I'm as American as they come.

Kosher salt was used for koshering. It's just a name from the process- like how corned beef, which is cured, is called "corned" because of the "corns" of salt it was initially made with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
I've thought about this quite a bit. Fair warning.

At some point in the very late 2020's or early-mid 2030's, I'm living in Japan, nearish to Kyoto; through a coworker/friend, I end up at the Old Adam and eventually as a member of the Secret Sealing Club. Given the nature of my job and my experiences I end up "scouting out" Gensokyo with Maribel, Renko, and various other club members. Slowly we become more acquainted with the "other worlds" (Gensokyo, Lunar Kingdom, and other realms elsewhere similar to Gensokyo) and become amateur magicians of sorts through using magical objects we find. After a series of events, a catalyst occurs that leads Maribel to unlock her true powers and "become" Yukari, though this event "tears" the rest of the club members through time and space, scattered and lost.

I end up sent back only about a decade and a half back in time but nowhere different in space, so now or recent past/near future somewhere in Gensokyo. I then find myself essentially battling my way through the forest, looking for shelter from low-tier youkai but overrun. Beaten up and exhausted I stumble upon the SDM, reach the mansion uncontested and collapse. Luckily for me I'm not chopped up and eaten or turned to mush; instead I'm taken into a guest room, stitched up a bit, and allowed to rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24745436
Coincidentally, a slightly more matured Remilia, only a few days before, had asked a favor of Yukari: to find her a potentially suitable husband, preferably a "knight" (given my irl career it wouldn't be too much of a stretch). Given the nature of the mansion I consider trying to escape but eventually decide against it after being "convinced" otherwise by my primary caretaker, Sakuya. I soonafter meet Remilia, who pretended to be a caretaker but obviously wasn't, and she explains where I am, who everyone is, etc., while I describe my own background. We find common ground and bond, regardless of the 500ish year age gap, and it isn't until several months later that it's found that I am, in fact, not the suitor Remilia ordered when an actual knight in shining armor shows up one day. Regardless we marry and I spend the next several years travelling the world(s) with her and studying extensively under Patchouli. A shitload more happens after this, including a number of wars inside and outside of Gensokyo and remi becoming the vampire empress, but I think that's enough autism for now.

tl;dr I go to Japan, join the Secret Sealing Club, shit goes down and I end up in Gensokyo. I'm extremely lucky and end up a permanent resident of the SDM. You asked.

[Anonymous No.]

How easy would it be to bluff or lie to get out of a dangerous situation with a youkai? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it against the rules for youkai to eat humans from the village? If someone was gapped in the middle of some forest, and Rumia showed up and was going to attack them, could they lie and pretend to be from the village? Could they fool Rumia by saying something like they are wearing clothes from the outside world that they bought from Kourindou, but they are still a villager? Maybe if someone had meta knowledge they could namedrop certain people to convince the youkai assailant that they are from Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24740030
>>24740067
>Yukari
>A door
That was probably Okina if anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>24747047
Rumia is dumb so you can probably make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>24747047
Depends on the Youkai. Rumia is about as dumb as a bag of potatoes. While Mystia is clever enough that she would see through your ruse without much trouble.

It's mentioned that the best thing to do when confronted by a youkai is to give them something to eat that is not you. Lying can backfire, hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24748752
Chocolate, if you have chocolate with you tell them if they dont eat you you will give them something more delicious and you give them chocolate... remember to fill the chocolate with sleeping drugs to help you escape in case Is not enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>24745436
Total tangent, but finding out Nakatani was a touhou doujin artist filled a gap in my soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>24727435
Intelligent and assertive/domineering, instead of merely assertive/domineering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24738276
You know magic is real, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24747598
anon almost become a shoehu

[Anonymous No.]

>>24749051
I honestly doubt a sleeping drug would work, but chocolate can actually keep you alive. Just remember that you probably won´t have enough of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24757184
Thank goodness he's never gone back

[Anonymous No.]

fantasia

[Anonymous No.]

>>24741747
>What prevents Gensokyo from being escapist is the lore and the world, not the plot or the absence of one.
You're walking in circles man. I just said there isn't and you've yet to show me something to oppose that
>99% of incidents have a cause, with the end goal nearly always being to stop them.
Literally see the second half of that sentence. There's a fucking incident where flowers bloom too early so Reimu just goes to be whoever the fuck. Those aren't quests. They're just games (Literally). That's what the danmaku rules were made for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24764165
>I just said there isn't and you've yet to show me something to oppose that
Are you trying to say Touhou has no lore?

>Those aren't quests.
Touhou isn't a tabbletop rpg or a MMO anyway. There is still a plot, stuff happens, and the heroes usually have a goal that they try to complete. It's more of a story than your average sitcom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24765323
Stop walking in circles
Show me actually something in the plot to oppose this

[Anonymous No.]

>>24752463
Memes are magic therefore I am a magician.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
I really don't know, even if it would be possible. I most certainly agree with >>24561744, not only because Remilia would give me a "job", but rather that she is the only one who knows English. I know that Kosuzu can read it, so that would be the second-best bet. Maybe if I would be able to take some book for her, I would have stand a better chance at not being a slave of Remilia.

>Where would you want to live?
Human village is a great option if you have no assets, maybe if I would get along with Kosuzu, then maybe at Akyuu's palace.
>Who would you like to befriend?
The head start is Kosuzu and Akyuu or Remilia then Sakuya if I would start at SDM. Patchouli and learn stuff from her. Fort the rest of the SDM, it would be quite out of the reach.
>What do you generally plan to do?
Gain some special power and make it possible to create a route to the human world.
Being immortal would also be nice. I wish there was a way to relive the entire lifetime of humanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
1. Work with the kappas to make a mech, some guns, and a sword. Learn magic somehow.
2. The Moriya shrine, and alternatively, Suzunaan.
3. Everyone.
4. Slice of life stuff, living peacefully, having fun, enjoying life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24772591
>she is the only one who knows English
We discussed it in the previous thread, but since there are so many people in Gensokyo who know different languages from each other there is probably some spoken language magic that lets everyone understand what everyone else is saying. You canj always try waltzing your way to whatever place you won't die at, open your mouth and just hope they understand whatever comes out of it
>I wish there was a way to relive the entire lifetime of humanity
Ask Sakuya and Kaguya

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
>How would you seek to gain power?
I doubt I would, at least not to a huge degree. I'd never be stronger than the majority of the girls anyway, but I'd be pretty happy if I could fly and basically defend myself
>Where would you want to live?
Hakurei Shrine, definitely. Not just because of Reimu, though she's definitely a plus. You'd get to meet practically everyone there, and live a relatively simple life because you'd mostly be taking care of the place.
>Who would you like to befriend?
If I'm living at the shrine, I'd be able to befriend practically everyone. I'd like to get to know Marisa better, and finally learn the reason Alice takes dream pills.
>What do you generally plan to do?
Live a simple life, really. I could be perfectly content living each day with some simple tasks that have to be done. At the Shrine, this would be stuff like cleaning and maintaining the place because it has a tendency to fall apart. If I was at the village, I'd probably be pretty happy just being a farmer or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
I've fantasized about being an average man in the Human Village. Perhaps a farmer of some sort of tradesman. Marrying an average woman, producing two to four kids with her. Living out a quiet and steady life, thanks to the protection of certain girls.

I've also fantasized about being Maribel. I've taken her future many different ways. Perhaps Maribel becomes Yukari, and 'creates' Gensokyo after traveling in time, and maybe Renko becomes the first Hakurei Maiden, or the mother of her. Perhaps Maribel marrys a man in the outside world and has a child. Perhaps that child is Yukari, who laters grows to be far more powerful than myself.

In most of my fantasies, I dream of marrying and having a peaceful happy family...

[Anonymous No.]

>>24790125
>>24790291
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>24769845
EOSD: Reimu is bothered by the Red mist, so she goes out to stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24795867
How does is oppose Gensokyo not being an escapist fantasy? And you literally described it as I said: Something not so dangerous happens, so Reimu just goes and beats everyone in her way.
That's literally every incident

[Anonymous No.]

>>24796326
>Something not so dangerous
It's mentioned that it might actually seriously endanger Gensokyo. If Reimu and Marisa did nothing, things would have gone very wrong.

>How does is oppose Gensokyo not being an escapist fantasy?
Shit like this opposes Gensokyo being a escapist fantasy.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Outsider
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Story/Prologue
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Forbidden_Scrollery

[Anonymous No.]

>>24797283
>If Reimu and Marisa did nothing, things would have gone very wrong
Like what? The only purpose of the red mist is to obscure the sun. If remilia tried killing a single human Reimu/+Marisa/+Yukari/+Etc. would fight her immediately. Reimu went after the red mist since it was bothersome. That's it

And about the links you sent
The first one says that if you're stupid and don't understand what a Youkai is/panic like a fucking idiot instead of trying to sort out the situation you'll get eaten
The second link literally has this line, which proves what I said correct
And the third link is the entirety of Forbidden Scrollery
None of them oppose Gensokyo being an escapist fantasy
Did you just search "Outsider" in the wiki and send anything that came up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
>(How) would you seek to gain power?
I wouldn't exactly want to gain power within gensokyo, but I still have my desires from being there
>Where would you want to live?
Hopefully somewhere secluded from people and plantlife, a coughing fit alerting youkai to my presence would be a death sentence
>Who would you like to befriend?
Remila and her crew would be nice for library access, but I'd probably want someone to help guide the hand of "plan".
Maybe learning from eiki would be helpful
>What do you generally plan to do?
Learn magic, get good enough where even the best scientific minds can't refute it, go the fuck home, found the study of Arcanology, improve quality of life for humanity with magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24797782
>Like what? The only purpose of the red mist is to obscure the sun.
It would kill all crops, and possibly move over to the outside world and cause Gensokyo to be discovered.

>The first one says that if you're stupid and don't understand what a Youkai is/panic like a fucking idiot instead of trying to sort out the situation you'll get eaten
It flat out mentions that most outsiders that visit Gensokyo die horribly. That completely kills any escapist fantasy unless you have a death wish.

>The second link literally has this line, which proves what I said correct
That line only applies to the Human Villagers, and isn't even canon anymore going by everything we see in other works.

>The second link literally has this line, which proves what I said correct
Which shows that being a human villager is not that great, and that 99% of them are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24810451
>It would kill all crops, and possibly move over to the outside world and cause Gensokyo to be discovered.
That's secondary, Remilia just wanted to walk freely
Never talked about the human villagers, you're the one that tried to mention them. Don't link stuff you don't understand
The human villagers are descendants of Youkai hunters so they're all pretty strong.
Most outsiders that come into Gensokyo are fucking stupid, and none of them are escapists, just there by accident.

So you have still nothing about Gensokyo not being an escapist fantasy
You have proven your complete lack of understanding of Touhou lore though

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to live in this shitty world. I want to live in my headcanon version of Gensokyo.
I'm starting my project to destroy the real world

[Anonymous No.]

>>24811227
How do you plan in destroying this world is to big and anyone could easily stop you
And gensokyo needs the outside world to exist so if you destroy this world you destroy gensokyo to

[Anonymous No.]

>>24811937
Flood it with anal lube

[Anonymous No.]

>>24810892
>That's secondary, Remilia just wanted to walk freely
It's mentioned as the main reason why the Scarlet mist incident has to be stopped here: https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Embodiment_of_Scarlet_Devil/Story/Prologue
>Gensokyo interfering with its peoples' lives would most likely cause Gensokyo to be eliminated by the hands of humans, too.

>Never talked about the human villagers, you're the one that tried to mention them
What does? Because everything I linked you does.

>The human villagers are descendants of Youkai hunters so they're all pretty strong.
Which is why none of them are ever shown as strong in any work made since PCB.

It's called a retcon, anon.

>Most outsiders that come into Gensokyo are fucking stupid, and none of them are escapists, just there by accident.
And? Being or not being a escapists does not change the fact that most of them die. I don't know how you can look at a place with a at least over 50% morality rate for anybody that visits and think "Escapist fantasy". Like, Somalia isn't a escapist fantasy either, and you are probably less likely to die if you go there than Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24822652
>What does? Because everything I linked you does.
Yo can you read? I said I didn't mention them, not you.
>It's called a retcon, anon.
Still doesn't make it less true
>And? Being or not being a escapists does not change the fact that most of them die
It totally does. They never wanted to be there in the first place so it's not a fantasy for them.
If they fucking lie on the ground and accept death of course they're going to die because they were never meant to be there. If you're pulled into an unknown world completely by accident of course you're going to have a high chance of death. But if you want to be there and know where you're going that's a different story. Many of the people currently living in Gensokyo are escapists, who decided to leave the outside world because it was no longer fit for them and knew where they were going.
This still doesn't make Gensokyo any less of an escapist fantasy. Fucking idiot victims don't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
Not a fantasy I've had but I just had a dream a few days ago about Gensokyo in a thousand years. It looked like an apocalyptic shithole. While I was rummaging around trying to find out what place I'm in, I met Remilia & Meiling. Remilia was dirty & had long jagged nails on both her hands & feet. Meiling's clothes were ragged but she wasn't as dirty as Remi.
Sakuya hasn't been taking care of Remi because Sakuya has been dead for a thousand years, Flandre was also apparently dead, & Patchouli was either gone or went somewhere else. Presumably also dead.

Both of them asked me if I know any supply cache or would do a job for them in exchange of payment. I accepted their quest but I woke up before I could ever finish their request. So they're still probably starving somewhere in Shitsokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24822860
>Still doesn't make it less true
It does. That's what a retcon is.

>They never wanted to be there in the first place so it's not a fantasy for them.
That's irrelevant. What matters is the place itself, not if you want to be there.

>If they fucking lie on the ground and accept death of course they're going to die because they were never meant to be there.
1: They don't accept death. They try to get out but have no problem what is going on. 2: They were meant to be there... to die. That is the kind of place Gensokyo is. Not a escapist fantasy, but a fantastical dystopia that feeds on people from the outside world like a horrifying eldricht abomination.

>Many of the people currently living in Gensokyo are escapists, who decided to leave the outside world because it was no longer fit for them and knew where they were going.
What, you mean Sanae? The demigod who is explicitly mentioned as being one of the VERY few outsiders to have ever properly adapted to Gensokyo?

I mean, fair enough, if you are a demigod then Gensokyo isn't that bad of a place. You are not a demigod though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24825055
>It does. That's what a retcon is.
And Sherlock really escaped Moriarty. It's true
>That's irrelevant
No it's not. You keep pressing a point which I'm not standing on and forcing it to be my arguement
>They don't accept death
They do.
>They were meant to be there
So they're not escapists if it's not their choice
>What, you mean Sanae
Remilia actually, and everyone with her
And Murasa, and some of the people with her
And Yumemi, and some of the people with her
And Miko, and everyone with her
And Sanae, and everyone with her
And Tewi and her rabbits
And others
Read the lore before you take from it

[Anonymous No.]

>>24825537
>And Sherlock really escaped Moriarty. It's true
Exactly. Retcon happens, just like the human village was retconned into being weak as shit.

>No it's not.
Again, it is. If you jump into a active volcano, then it really doesn't matter if you want to be there or not. You are still going to get burned.

>They do.
They run away from ghosts and the like. The only reason they don't run away from Youkai is because most of them look like little girls.

>So they're not escapists if it's not their choice
Again, irrelevant. Choice or no choice, they still died.

>And...
All of those are youkai. No fucking shit youkai would be happy in Gensokyo. A Nazi would be happy in Nazi Germany as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24843983
>Active volcano
Is not
>Youkai is because most of them look like little girls
So people who know what they're doing will run away
>Again, irrelevant. Choice or no choice, they still died.
I disagree. With that base point of your arguement I disagree
>All of those are youkai
Yumemi is a Youkai? Please tell me more

[Anonymous No.]

>>24843983
>just like the human village was retconned into being weak as shit.
Where

[Anonymous No.]

1. Find alice she would help me and give me some food and take me to the human village
2. Keep away from the Buddhists at all cost (I dont like them)
3. Get a job in the village ask Keine if she could help me find a job
4. Work and make money
5. Buy property
6. Talk with kasen she is a good girl and asker to train me
7. In the past of time we get closer and closer
8. Marry her and she will let me drink from her sake box to be an oni with her
9. Have many children
10. Burn the Buddhists temple down
11. ???
12. Profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>24851855
Disregarding the first few steps, this post reads like an extremely upset taoist post
Get off the computer, Miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24844567
>Is not
It is. The place is death incarnate for outsiders.

>So people who know what they're doing will run away
At which point the youkai will catch you.

>Yumemi is a Youkai?
She's from a different dimension. So, fuck knows what she is.

>I disagree. With that base point of your arguement I disagree
You disagree with what? That they died?

>>24845123
FS and Synopsium, mostly. PMISS also hinted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24852890
There hasn't been a single new point you've made in the last week. You keep repeating the same things without actually giving reasons behind them. You get stuck to the smallest things I say then grind them to a halt without actually getting anywhere.
>UHEH UEHE GENSOKYO IS DANGEROUS, LOOK AT ALL OF THESE IDIOTS THAT DIED IN IT
They died because they were idiots
>NO THEY WERE HUMAN YOU'LL DIE TOO EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT A YOUKAI LOOKS LIKE
Fuck off honestly, and you also keep coming to the wiki even though you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Gensokyo isn't an escapist fantasy because why?
Also Yumemi is a human, she's literally a college professor. Who cares about dimensions. Yet you still called her a Youkai.

I'm not going to answer anymore even though I know you're going to write something stupid in response and ignore 95% of what I said. You gave me an actual headache man

[Anonymous No.]

>>24853188
>They died because they were idiots
You aren't a idiot just because you don't know anything about Gensokyo. Which, obviously, outsiders would not.

>NO THEY WERE HUMAN YOU'LL DIE TOO EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT A YOUKAI LOOKS LIKE
Youkai are faster and stronger than you. Running away won't solve anything.

>Gensokyo isn't an escapist fantasy because why?
Because you are going to die if you go there. The place is not some kind of isekai fantasy where you get to be the hero, it's a place build upon the mass murder of outsiders. To go there as a normal human is not a fantasy, it's a nightmare. One that will end with you most likely never being seen again.

>Also Yumemi is a human, she's literally a college professor. Who cares about dimensions.
She's literally from a different world. Comparing her to a normal outsider, even one with foreknowledge of Touhou, is retarded.

>I'm not going to answer anymore even though I know you're going to write something stupid in response and ignore 95% of what I said.
So, you give up? fair enough. Just stop putting your shitty shallow headcanons into Touhou. Gensokyo is a shithole, outsiders die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24851909
You dont know how much I dislike the Buddhists they are so fucking retarded especially byakuren how can someone be so delusional thinking that youkais nice and shit
HOLY SHIT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SHE JUST CARES ABOUT YOUKAI BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY WAY SHE CAN KEEP HER IMMORTALITY AND NOT FUCKING DIE BECAUSE SHE DEPENDS ON YOUKAI MAGIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit are these autists still going at it

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>24883474
Isn't this a little off topic?
Great machine tho

[Rhipidura !!VR2z6wKsvi/ No.]

Gensōkyō, like any fantasy universe, is made for fantasising about, it's basically a Mystic Eastern Wonderland where there is no death and where everything is full of divine and natural beauty. If you spend enough time reading fictional works about Gensōkyō I wouldn't be surprised you'd dream about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24884046
>it's basically a Mystic Eastern Wonderland where there is no death and where everything is full of divine and natural beauty.
>No death.
I guess all those outsiders were just send to the next dimension or the shadow realm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
Here and there I do daydream about arriving in Gensokyo and being lucky enough to meet Hina before anyone else. I'd try to convince her to take me in and deter youkai from eating me in exchange for helping her out however I can. Things like helping her collect dolls and manning her stall, I figure people might be willing to buy from it if she (and her associated taboo) aren't right there. I think she'd be able to work out some way of mitigating the impact of residual misfortune on me, but if not I'd just have to limit my time in direct contact with her. I'd really like to at least be friends with her, ideally I'd fully move in with her and start a family together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24884046
I haven't been to Gensokyo in my dreams, I think in my subjective reality that it's not possible to directly visit Gensokyo via dreams, only through body via the reincarnation cycle. The touhous themselves have made appearances, I think it only happens when we happen to be dreaming at the same time. I've met Reimu, Marisa, Alice, Sanae, Sumireko, and Yukari, so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
This is my memory now, I'm stealing this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24736966
I can't convince myself this is my own memory. Fuck you, this should've happened to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24883474
based

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody know how spellcasting or magic in general work in Gensokyo ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24914621
A scientific explanation for magic could be found in quantum mechanics and string theory and the unified theory of eve6

[Anonymous No.]

I once dreamed I went to Gensokyo, it was the most beautiful and lifelike dream I could remember. All the other times I remember dreams it's about nightmares.

It's not an interesting a story as Mokou's Wanderer, but I did get to meet Reimu.
>be me, walking back home from university. Very stressful semester, so my head was all over the place.
>last stretch is a kinda foresty road, lotsa trees and no actual sidewalk. I dont live in a good place but this road in particular is very nice
>From behind a tree, a small girl tumbles into my view.
>Approach to check if she's okay
>It's fucking Cirno, shortly followed by Daiyousei, seemingly popping out of thin air from the same tree
>The moment they spot me, they fly back to where I saw Cirno tumble from. Into nothingness.
>It was probably a dangerous decision, but I decided to investigate, going off road and towards the trees
>The little tree grove was a lot larger than I remembered. Guessed it was just cause I never really went into it
>Way, way larger.
>And far more uphill too
>After hiking up for what feels like an hour, the volume of trees finally started to go down
>In the distance, spot a small building. Weird, never seen that before.
>Upon closer inspection, it's actually a japanese shrine
>Needless to say I'm confused as fuck as I live in the third world nowhere a shrine should be. Regardless of this, I go and check it out considering my chances of going back that hill and knowing the way back are null
>There's someone sweeping at the entrance, maybe they know what's up
>Approach waving, hollering in Spanish
>She turns to look at me with a very confused look on her face, and approaches me.
>At this point, I recognized her as Reimu. My blood ran cold at the realization of where I was
>fuck fuck fuck how do i get back
>fuck Reimu started speaking Japanese at me. I only know very basic Japanese fuck
>Start cold-sweating like mad, hands shaking.
>Reimu sighs, and begins heading back to the Shrine. I think I'm about to be abandoned there, but in reality she makes a gesture with her hand, telling me to follow her
>I dont know what the hell to do, so I might as well do as she tells me
>Gestures me to sit down at the Shrine's entrance while she goes inside. I do as I'm told.
>Normally, the landscape would've been gorgeous, but I was so distrought I really did not register anything by this point.
>Reimu comes back outside with a little tray, two cups of hot green tea. She sat beside me and handed me a cup, taking the other for herself.
>Almost like she's talking to a child, she begins saying I'll be fine, it's the Hakurei Shrine, nothing's gonna happen.
>The hot tea helps me calm down as well. Once I feel like my throat's no longer a blind knot, I attempt to introduce myself and say I want to go back home
>She chuckles, and makes a remark about my Japanese not being half bad. Seeing her laugh actually puts me at incredible ease
>Through very basic Japanese and Reimu dumbing down her speech to child-level, we're actually able to sorta half-communicate
>She's a very nice girl actually, and was very concerned about easing my mind that eventually Yukari was gonna come and send me back to my world
>Even started cracking jokes after some time, asking me if I understood them right afterwards every time.
>Every now and then she gets up and comes back with more tea and eventually rice crackers, saying she's glad no-one decided to bother her today.
>She also was very curious about my phone when I pulled it out, though I feel like the very lackluster explanation I gave on it left her feeling dissappointed.
>Eventually, as the day gave way to the evening, we had quieted down and were just looking at the sundown in silence. I had never seen an evening in such a beautiful color, and I remember how peaceful that moment felt despite the panic I had earlier
>Dream cuts off there. I wake up in my bed as normal the next morning.

I'm assuming gap hag woke up by that time and did her business. Every night I think back on that as I'm heading to bed, hoping to at least get a similar dream. Gensokyo felt like a very scary place in that moment, and I suppose not meeting any youkai on the mountain was a bit of a small miracle, but once Reimu set me at ease it really began to feel really peaceful. The air felt lighter, the smells brighter, and you could see landscapes up to miles away. A beautiful place I am hoping to visit again.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my fuck, look at all green. Where did this come from?

[Anonymous No.]

A friend of mine told he had a dream where he went to gensokyo sadly his dream didn't last long because he ate a poisonous mushroom and died

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know about you guys, I just want to become a yokai or a powerful human and proceed to have lesbian sex in the Gensokyo that I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24955077
You and me both, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if these trips manifest from an intense desire to escape?
The Mokou guy said that when Mokou hugged him it was the most wanted he had felt, and the Reimu guy (wish it was me, but I digress) said he had been dealing with an intensely stressful semester.
Perhaps it'll happen to me someday.
God knows...

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
Nothing beyond being a human in the village and maybe running into Banki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24954945
It seems like most people wake up when they die in dreams. Whenever I die in a dream, I just wake up in a bed somewhere else, still in the dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24954945
>arrive to Gensokyo
>first reflexe is to ate a random shroom
you friend is a litttle bit mentally challenged

[Anonymous No.]

How do people even dream of gensokyo?

[Anonymous No.]

Lucid dreaming is key to lucid dying, learn how to lucid dream for best odds of going to your Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24960278
I tend to wake up when i go to sleep in a dream which can sometimes be a bit distressing when i have a mundane dream about daily life because i'm not sure if that actually happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>24988439
Astral projection, astral project and travel to gensokyo find yukari give her all you information and your location in the world if she takes interest in that then she is going to watch you for some months and if she thinks that you are interesting then she will take you to gensokyo... tho there is the chance that you could die

[Anonymous No.]

>>25002472
Lucid dreaming could accomplish the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25002537
Y3ah but is less cooler and less real if you want that shit to happen in flesh and bone and not in a dream then call her with astral projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>25003472
It's canon that visiting Genoskyo in your dreams is actually visiting it for real. It's really the same end result either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25004063
But but but... yeah you are right

[Anonymous No.]

Help me /jp/, how do I become attached to the real world again? Everything that's not Gensokyo is boring, I'm not even attracted to 3d women anymore. But I know you can't live like this forever. How to want to do normal people stuff?

[Boomslang No.]

i had dreams where i dated and befrended many tohous.. i wish i could stay in gensokyo forever and hug my blue haired wife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25010401
Why would you want that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
>human outsiders go to Gensokyo and not end up being eaten.
So i must be reincarnation of a powerful god then.
Sweet.

[Anonymous No.]

I just woke up from a dream where I mussed up Miko's hair because her headphones were flattening it. It was nice.
Fuck I hate reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25011635
19 year old me would ask the same question

[Anonymous No.]

My sexual experience with Touhous in dreams: kissing Patchouli, fucking Patchouli, fucking Sakuya (in the ass), fucking Eirin, licking Cirno's cunny, hugging Marisa, hugging Yuyuko, holding Iku's hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25013727
glad to see you keep your relationships pure with the best girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
No I have not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25033973
Xd

[Anonymous No.]

>>24554903
I just want to be a simple farmer in Gensokyo. make my donations at the shrine, live comfortably in a small village, maybe befriend some scary youkai or fairies for protection of my crops and family. I'm a simple man with simple desires.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25039690
Me to man me to, I wish for the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
No.
>bump

[Anonymous No.]

Be Ushizaki and give lots and lots of guys paizuri.

[Anonymous No.]

Does gensokyo has the same season as Japan?
Is this a retarded question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25109459
yes

[Wanderer !zMwf.jG0sM No.]

>>24743561
This happened eleven or twelve years ago.

>>24740362
I didn't really fuck it up. She told me to leave, and return when I understood what she meant.

>>24948461
That is actually incredibly interesting! Just some random happenstance, their world overlapping ours and following them through. Something wild and uncontrolled, unplanned.

You likely fell asleep watching the sunset.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a dream that I dont remenber that much but I going to do the effort
>walking through the streets of a village it doesn't seem to be the human village but mayohiga
>stumbled upon Alice she asked me if I am lost
>tell her that I dont know if I am
>looks at me confused
>tells me to follow her
>ok
during the walking she talked a lot it seems she was asking me questions but I dont remember much of it I just replied with nonsense to which I got a replied that I remember
>A:are you crazy or from the outside world?
>me;why the weather is so Foggy in here?
>A:it seems that you are under the effects of some drug
>A:but dont worry soon will be leaving this place
The more we walked the more dark started to get
>a weird dog looking youkai jumped me and attacked me
>alice tried to help me but for some reason I beated that dog youkai to death
>she looks amused but doesn't say anything
>leaved magohiga
>another dog youkai attack me
>beat him to death too
>another one again
>beat him to death like the others
>and another one
>this one I launched it to the sky
>A:we already left that place so I think there is no problem if we separate now you dont seem to have any problem with youkais to so yo will be fine
>me:why is so dark
I still was like retarded for some reason and also super strong for some reason
>we separated
>now walking alone
>everything starts to get like really fucking dark
>night blinded I am
>something grabs me I dont know what it is but I beated to death to
>it no longer grab me
>continue walking
>the nightblindnes is gone and started raining
And this is were things start to get funky
>a mansion
>me:good
>open the door
>it fucking breaks
>stride in like if I own the place
>that maid appears like ready to attack
>she is stopped by remilia
>she asked me if I was from the outside world
>me:perhaps
At this point I wasn't retarded but I still was really strong
>R:there are onis in the outside world or you stole that
>me:I have been wearing this during all the time I arrived
>R:well let's ignore that you are an oni but let's take in consideration that you are from the outside world I need you to do something for me
>teleported to a room with remilia and sakuya wasn't here now
In the room there were some things that were pretty modern cables, a generator that it seems to work with gasoline, gasoline, a TV, and a weird video game console, some controllers
>remilia asked me to assemble this and make it work
> did it and did it good
> turn own the TV and the console
>plug in the controller's
>give one to remilia
>she looks confused
>search for a game
Ah sweet Memories the video game console was this weird type of Brazilian Wii or something like that like when I asked my dad once to buy me a Nintendo Wii and he bought this console instead that has 500 games but a lot of them are reaped with only the colors changed
>start to cry
>before remilia asked me something I choosed a racing game
>explain her that this is a game use the controller to play and I didn't explain her how
>win multiple times
>she gets angry and say
>R:let me show you another game then
>got teleported to another's room
>it seems to be a dungeon
>there is lore people here and they use clothes that are from the outside world too
>sakuya appears and says
>whoever's survives the different rounds of monsters that will come here will gain its freedom there is some weapons that you can use and...
>ignore her an started killing all the monsters that came
>some look like zombies, weird skeletons, skinny golems, and dolls
>sakuya got angry for some reason and says
>S: professionals no
>feel my back burning with pain like if I was stabbed multiple times
>wake up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25128053
Also first time doing a green text and English isn't my main language

[Anonymous No.]

>>25128053
>>25128162
Also I forgot to add that this felt like one day

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
Since I'm a guy, no. I once started a fanfic about the girls from Strike Witches ending up in Gensokyo after losing the Neuroi war, if that counts.

[Anonymous No.]

>already in previous dream
>realize i'm in unfavorable situation
>flip backwards 180 degrees and the whole environment changes
>realize that i see the snowflakes at the beginning of PCB stage 4
>hear The Capital City of Flowers In the Sky playing in the background
>realize where I am
>realize that this very well may be the dream I arrive at Hakugyokurou (a comfort place I have) to meet Lady Yuyuko and Youmu
>get too excited when I realize this opportunity
>wake up the second I remember that I had a college assignment due at 11:59 and the time ambiguity yielded an insurmountable urge to wake up to check the time
>have mixed emotions between the fact that I dreamt of 2hu for the first time and the fact that it could have lasted longer

[Anonymous No.]

>>25128053
>night blinded I am
>something grabs me I dont know what it is but I beated to death to
I can't believe Mystia is fucking dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>24553346
(How) would you seek to gain power?
I don't need power.

Where would you want to live?
A little shack in the human village would be fine.

Who would you like to befriend?
Everyone, mostly Marisa

What do you generally plan to do?
Grow weed and sell it to the 2hus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25128053
>>25130734
>>25132266
Too green; didn't read.