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Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:43:37 2009 No.2436623 [Reply] [Original]

Continued from >>2430042

Ask not what Touhou can do for you, but what you can do for Touhou.

This is an expanded version of your average drawing thread with programming and music production included. Use it to share your works in progress, discuss possible ideas for projects or as a way to improve your skills.

There was a lot of participation in the last thread so keep it up. For people who want to do something but lack the skills to do so, just give it a try. A lot of us are in the same boat, but its the effort that counts and leads to improvements.

Links previously mentioned

SAI Painter: http://www.sendspace.com/file/2p1css

Color and rendering:
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm

Vector shapes and perspective grids
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=d550c9af8d512f7ccc02321f32be013c&t=132023

Color theory:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17837

Figure drawing demos:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1432&page=2

Sounds and music techniques:
http://www.soundonsound.com/articles/Technique.php

Rearrange of Romantic Falls:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1ORPYLFY

There were actually too many guides and help that were posted in the last thread. We'll probably compile a list later for future use.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:45:37 2009 No.2436636 >Programming I have a week to blow away. Give me a suggestion.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:48:37 2009 No.2436655
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Since many people have already drawn Nazrin as a starting point, we can switch things up. For beginners or just anyone, you can try doing a rendition of Satori. If your Nazrin image is still in progress, definitely try and finish it first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:48:37 2009 No.2436659 Programmer here trying to make danmaku game. How do you make the elegant danmaku patters in Touhou? When I try my patterns end up looking like 1942 type of patters where the shots just head for the player or kinda just drift aimlessly around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:48:39 2009 No.2436657 Translate! http://voile.gensokyo.org/res/15836.html You can find the RAWs there.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed Apr 15 23:49:37 2009 No.2436660 >>2436636 Make a Touhou side-scrolling shooter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM6P5K4_l9o Here is the final stage in your game. Copy it exactly but replace the sprites with Touhou-related things and characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:49:37 2009 No.2436664 >>2436659 Read your SICP. Achieve Satori.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:53:37 2009 No.2436679 >>2436659 You need imagination. Don't just think of bullets as things to be shot at the player. Have some of the bullets as obstacles which limit the player's movement etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:54:37 2009 No.2436687 >>2436660 Side-scrollan shooter it is, no promises on Gradius though. >>2436659 Use trig in your bullet spawning algorithms. Play around with sine waves, they makes some neat shit.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:55:37 2009 No.2436693

>>2436636

You know I would kill for a Touhou version of Radiant Silvergun. Combining danmaku patterns with appropriate terrain and including a variety of different weapons. Of course thats probably too much to ask for.

Video for people not familiar with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuTJAHRZNSM

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:59:33 2009 No.2436693,1 Wow, this is really picking up steam. I'm glad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:04:37 2009 No.2436729 File: 29 KB, 640x512, guesswho.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] post some art fags!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:05:37 2009 No.2436741 File: 15 KB, 463x498, howto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2436659 Here's a cheap way of making the type of pattern that spits bullets out and rotates. Kinda like Meiling's Rainbow Sign "Wind Chime of Colorful Raibow".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:06:37 2009 No.2436748 >>2436729 My beautiful Lain! Anyway musicbros, thanks for that tip about Reason. Going to work on a remix over the next few days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:07:37 2009 No.2436751 File: 128 KB, 600x849, dfdf4206b62c3f9aae9615aeb1636d548c3a9fe8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2436729 This makes me wanna cry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:09:37 2009 No.2436758 I mean, ignoring the fact at how uncreative everyone is by contributing to something as long as it's touhou instead of something original, you emphasize this fact by trying to create a SHOOTER of all things?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:09:37 2009 No.2436761

You know what'd be a cool touhou game feature?

A Make-A-Character thing where you can make your own bosses, and PLAY as the bosses. So every attack you'd do would be on a timer as you alternate between danmaku patterns, while tossin out a whole bunch of your own custom made patterns.

all the while trying to kill Reimu or whoever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:10:37 2009 No.2436765 >>2436664 SICP is for weak faggots who don't watn to make there own language, you're a weak faggot for reading it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:10:37 2009 No.2436767 Cool idea, but I don't quite get what I'm supposed to be doing. Other than drawing random Touhou art I don't have anything else to contribute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:10:37 2009 No.2436768 >>2436659 Please prioritize control latency. This necessitates fixed frame rate. I strongly recommend 120Hz, with optional frame skipping to 60Hz. 120fps motion looks much smoother than 60fps, and there are now true 120Hz LCD monitors available.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:10:37 2009 No.2436770 >>2436761 >make your own bosses Danmakufu. >and PLAY as the bosses No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:11:37 2009 No.2436776 >>2436758 Get out

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:11:37 2009 No.2436777 >>2436765 Daddy, is this a troll?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:12:37 2009 No.2436779 >>2436761 I'm no programmer, but balancing the difficulty seems like it would be hard the other way around. Also creating the system which allows for custom spellcards would be a pain. Otherwise sounds like a fun idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:14:37 2009 No.2436787 >>2436777 No son, this is serious buisness, and the good man is quite correct. If you read that SICP, i'll beat you redder than your mommas cunt after a hard weeks work at the docks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:17:37 2009 No.2436799 File: 8 KB, 355x349, shock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2436787

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:18:37 2009 No.2436802 Maybe be off topic, but why not trying to mix the shooting genre with rhythm? Make the patterns respond to certain beats of the music. Would be awesome if it worked well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:19:37 2009 No.2436810 >>2436802 It's pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:20:37 2009 No.2436816 >>2436787 Haha, his moms a whore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:21:37 2009 No.2436819 >>2436802 Forgot the youtube link, but I saw a version of Reisen's spellcards following the beat. It was beautiful. That could work, something like Rhythm Heaven, where the music gives you cues of what to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:21:37 2009 No.2436826 File: 55 KB, 827x1142, sketc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2436751 OH YEAH? i bet you're fapping to it right now, you sad fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:30:37 2009 No.2436875 >>2436802 This what you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaXAZRbJhcQ

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Apr 16 00:39:37 2009 No.2436908 >>2436802 Sure let's just create a TOUHOU VERSION of everything. I suggest Touhou Pinball. Copy this for your Scarlet Devil Mansion stage or something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwkJZp7mR1U In during awesome soundtrack.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:45:37 2009 No.2436928

>>2436659
And for a final bit of goodies, here's something that makes a single-wave downward-facing bullet spray. It shouldn't take too much more imagination to turn this into something better.

http://pastebin.com/m16d69e07

Hope that paints enough of a picture for you to understand.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:37:37 2009 No.2437106

Almost all the guides I found on Reason were focused on electronic music and UNTZ. The default things for "real" instruments sound a bit shoddy as well, and sort of lacking in variety. Is there a guide focusing on on just making those instruments sound better, and doing different effects with them?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:44:37 2009 No.2437142

>>2436802
Actually quite easy in flash, and something I've been planning in my game (I posted a link to it in the previous thread)

Though, one problem, is that since music plays in a separate thread, they aren't synced. Slow machine performance could change the pattern of bullets. Which means that when people compare their high scores, it wouldn't necessarily mean anything. Compensating would require extra timing code that I really don't feel like writing.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Apr 16 01:50:37 2009 No.2437161

>>2437106

"Buy" a VST like East West Orchestra Silver; it's only 5-6 GB. Then you can upgrade to the bigger versions (the 15 GB and then the 40 GB one) later once you get the hang of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXReUbdrNHc&fmt=18

That's how it sounds with the Toohooos music.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:00:37 2009 No.2437204 >>2437161 VSTs don't work in Reason, and Cubase is an ass to me. What are my other options?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:01:37 2009 No.2437213 >>2437161 More VST recommendations please. Anything will do. I'm going to sleep now, hopefully this thread will still be here when I wake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:06:37 2009 No.2437243 >>2437204 sonar7?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:13:37 2009 No.2437279

>>2437204

You could use FL Studio. Though I wrote the MIDI for the Romantic Fall remix in Guitar Pro 5, a MIDI sequencer, everything else was done in FL Studio, like adding VST instruments, effects and mixing them.

>>2437213

For rock instruments, I use RealGuitar 2, ezdrummer (Drumkit from Hell edition), and Broomstick Bass. If I want an electric guitar sound, I use the Guitar Rig 3 VST as an amplifier for RealGuitar 2 as RealGuitar2 is an acoustic guitar VST.

Here's an old Yume Nikki remix I was working on using those VSTs if you're wondering what they sound like.

http://tindeck.com/listen/plgi

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:21:33 2009 No.2437305 Can I use VSTs on mac?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:30:37 2009 No.2437345 >>2437279 Fuck you. Hearing about these VSTs and stuff made me lust after my tracker software again. Now I have to find mac versions of all these VSTs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:30:37 2009 No.2437346 >>2437204 Try Ableton 7, it's quite nice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:38:37 2009 No.2437374 >>2437161 >"Buy" a VST What's this "buy" you speak of? I use to think you were cool....

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:05:37 2009 No.2437474 File: 69 KB, 1000x1000, satori.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I figured I should ask for critiques before I colored it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:06:37 2009 No.2437477 >>2437474 fix chin and it's ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:08:37 2009 No.2437483 >>2437477 Fix how? Can you tell me what's wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:09:37 2009 No.2437487 >>2437483 It makes the head look like a rectangle. You'll probably have to change the neck, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:12:37 2009 No.2437495 >>2437374 "Buy" was in quotes for a reason. In before "lol i trol u"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:19:37 2009 No.2437512 >>2437474 That visible thumb looks broken. Her whole right arm looks oddly placed. There also seems to be a butt on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:32:37 2009 No.2437549 File: 661 KB, 600x600, satorisicps.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2437474 You have not achieved Satori yet. Read harder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:34:37 2009 No.2437557 File: 513 KB, 1155x2091, σάρωση0003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi guys, I made you a Koishi, you like it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:37:37 2009 No.2437574 >>2437557 Yes, yes I do. That is a pretty dress.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:41:37 2009 No.2437592 >>2436802 I've got it, it'll be a rhythm based shooter with Marisa and Alice. We can call it "Lez".

Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs Thu Apr 16 03:42:37 2009 No.2437597

I am working on a new track entitled "Have you read your SICP today?", I assume I will be ostracized from /jp/ if I make another release though.

The lyrics are taking more than 5 minutes to be written, which I assume is a ste up from my past works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:44:37 2009 No.2437602 Fledgling drawfags: Are you using a tablet? I can't draw shit to begin with, let alone draw with a mouse

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:44:37 2009 No.2437604 >>2437597 Keep in mind that it's pronounced "sick-pee".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:48:37 2009 No.2437622 >>2437597 Go for it. You have my fullest support.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:48:37 2009 No.2437624 >>2437161 I don't think that this sounds all that much better than Reason's Orkester soundbank though...

>>	Alice Margatroid !DoLLFaGERs Thu Apr 16 03:48:37 2009 No.2437625 >>2437604 Oh, its already time for a rewrite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:53:37 2009 No.2437643 Drawfag here. Don't have anything in particular I want to draw, suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:55:37 2009 No.2437649 >>2437643 Original characters design. Be the next ZUN or be the first gaijin manga artist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:00:37 2009 No.2437669 >>2436350 That's the point...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:01:37 2009 No.2437677 >>2437625 If you must get it to rhyme or something, you can pronounce it ess-eye-see-pee.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:02:37 2009 No.2437682 >>2437643 Reco x Wriggle

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:08:37 2009 No.2437701 >>2436659 I don't really care. But fyi ZUN has said he doesn't want people making other STGs based on his characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:09:37 2009 No.2437704 >>2437597 I hope you're not continuing the 'joke' from last time, because that will only work once.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:18:37 2009 No.2437724 >>2437602 Neither drawfag nor fledgling here, but I do use a tablet. Wacom graphire2; have had it for 8 years or so. Better than a mouse, crappier than a pencil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 06:11:37 2009 No.2438060 File: 67 KB, 669x696, AYURRRR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not very good at this, but here's an odd looking Aya.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 06:32:37 2009 No.2438137 >>2437701 Has he? Well, fuck. There goes my PC-98 remake project.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 06:44:37 2009 No.2438163 >>2438137 I doubt anyone will care about some random gaijin's remake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 06:45:37 2009 No.2438171 >>2438163 Unless it's good. And then some Jap will steal it, kill the gaijin, destroy all evidence, and claim he was the creator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 08:08:37 2009 No.2438391 >>2438171 Japan is not Corea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:24:37 2009 No.2438596 >>2437701 Really? When did he say this. Wouldn't games made with Danmakufu fall into this category though, like Concealed the Conclusion. I'm pretty sure some group released a Touhou side scroller from the last Reitaisai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:38:37 2009 No.2438639 File: 157 KB, 642x487, soew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2437701 I'd like to know what he has to say about Story of Eastern Wind then

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:49:37 2009 No.2438668 >>2437592 Lez was fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:27:37 2009 No.2439026 >>2437701 What. Where the hell did you get that? Especially since there's tons of shmups using touhou characters and settings. See http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Other_Games#Danmaku

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Thu Apr 16 11:31:37 2009 No.2439040 "Something of Lasers"

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:52:37 2009 No.2439127

>>2438137

I think modernizing the PC-98 games is actually a great idea for a project. I'm surprised no one in Japan has done it yet actually. I mean even just adding the focus option and updating the graphics for The Story of Eastern Wonderland would do wonders. If Zun isn't going to bring Mima back, then its time to bring her to us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:29:37 2009 No.2439523 File: 102 KB, 1000x1000, satori.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2437512 >>2437487 Changed the thumb, butthand, chin and neck. Does it look better or worse?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:39:37 2009 No.2439562 Please please have Yellow x Blue patterns.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:44:37 2009 No.2439583 >>2438137 >>2438596 >>2439026 I'm still convinced he said this... but I thought it was the Genyou Denshou Lecture and I just went through the transcript and saw nothing. Maybe I dreamt it. Don't let it stop you either way, though.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:47:37 2009 No.2439589

>>2437597
Give me some contact details. I wish to talk to you about a project I'm working on myself, and think you could help me with it.

I'll post more details on it here when I've got something beyond Reimu flying around in a featureless void, and able to shoot at Charles Rutheimer the 3rd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 16:41:37 2009 No.2440294 >>2439523 Your style works well for this drawing. Satori looks really good. Now finish painting it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 16:57:37 2009 No.2440339 I was recently inspired again to try doing some Touhou musics of my own, I think I'll start with Marisa's theme from IN. Also, here is midi from Touhou 6-8, if you care. http://robbi-985.homeip.net:8000/f_s_t_v2_copy/touhou/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:08:37 2009 No.2440362 Im a little confused as to how one would go about making a song. What is required program wise? I hear talk of VSTs and what not what would I use these with?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:10:37 2009 No.2440366 >>2440362 Depends on what you're trying to make.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:10:37 2009 No.2440368 >>2440339 All I've been doing is importing the MIDI into Reason and just changing the instruments, and messing around with the other shit that Reason has. I highly doubt I'll be taking this music deal towards any real distance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:12:37 2009 No.2440375 >>2440362 I hope you at least have knowledge of music. As for programs, I've used Fruity Loops for a while, but I'm sure there is better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:20:37 2009 No.2440391 File: 137 KB, 760x1091, umbrellaloli.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh, is this an artfag thread? I sketched a Kogasa last weekend, you can have it /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:11:37 2009 No.2440581 >>2440391 Why is the umbrella in the exact same post in every single Kogasa fanart? Is there a reason or just a coincidence?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:28:37 2009 No.2440660 >>2440581 I'v always wondered this myself...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:59:37 2009 No.2440781 >>2440581 >>2440660 Or she's always sticking out he tongue. Artists aren't very creative with her at all it seems...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:30:37 2009 No.2440880 >>2440581 Its probably because Zun actually did a good job of drawing her original portrait. People found her cute especially with the tongue. Don't fix what isn't broken I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:43:37 2009 No.2440915 >>2436660 Old and busted. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5915704

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 22:34:37 2009 No.2441548 >>2440880 I figured. Nothing wrong with that, but boy, he tongue must get tired.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Apr 16 22:35:37 2009 No.2441555 Command us to draw something specific OP, just like in the last thread. If not then I'm gonna draw a Japanese bird or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 22:37:37 2009 No.2441565 >>2441555 Draw Gensyokian(?) bird cooking spaghetti.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 22:39:37 2009 No.2441577 >>2441555 Have some creativity, fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 22:43:37 2009 No.2441596 >>2441577 He's a tripfag who named himself directly after Touhou's creator. Did you really expect him to be creative?

>>	patches Thu Apr 16 23:04:37 2009 No.2441666 >>2441565 shit, I wanted to draw that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:05:37 2009 No.2441671 >>2441555 see >>2436655 I can't tell you exactly what to draw, the portrayal of the character is up to you.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Apr 16 23:11:37 2009 No.2441688 >>2441671 Oh, I missed that last night. I guess everyone was too caught up with the STG idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:11:37 2009 No.2441689 >>2441565 >Draw Mystia cooking spaghetti.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:15:37 2009 No.2441711 >>2441689 This, anon, do it!

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:18:37 2009 No.2441728
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Also for some discussion, is the remake of the PC-98 games a probable idea for a project? Are there any people interested in participating? How much work would be required to re-texture a game and what programs would we use if we decided to do it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:21:37 2009 No.2441736 >>2441728 I'd be interesting in programming, but my knowledge isn't exactly up to snuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:33:37 2009 No.2441791 File: 82 KB, 229x415, touhou-cirnochibi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Made for you, /jp/. Cirno was the first Touhou I was introduced to. (Never knew what Touhou was back then) ;_; Requests for characters?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:37:37 2009 No.2441813

>>2436802
I'd be interested in this idea as well. One of my recent class projects was a strobic dancefloor that responded to certain parameters in music. It's not perfect, but the beat detection algorithm at least is very robust - will probably be pretty easy to port it too, since it's done in C mostly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 23:39:37 2009 No.2441830 >>2441813 That's awesome. I need to code more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:51:37 2009 No.2442184 File: 151 KB, 720x720, Marisa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:53:37 2009 No.2442195 >>2436802 There's a crappy flash game out there on the interbuttz that's based on this idea. A well made Touhou game would be godly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:55:37 2009 No.2442206 >>2442184 Uhhhh

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:56:37 2009 No.2442210 >>2442195 >interbuttz Get out

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:00:37 2009 No.2442232 >>2442184 Off to a start, but the proportions are a bit off especially with the arms and hands. The best thing to do is to use another image as a reference; its helpful for the facial features too. Keep at it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:01:37 2009 No.2442239 >>2442210 Aww, how cute, the newfag is trying to defend us from unseen evils!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:02:37 2009 No.2442242 >>2442210 probably wasn't even on 4chan when "interbutt" was actually a wordfilter...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:02:37 2009 No.2442243 >>2442239 How ironic

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:19:37 2009 No.2442332 Would anyone like to help me out and guide me to what to aquire in order to create music? I play on an upright piano. What kind of equipment do you suggest?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:22:37 2009 No.2442351 File: 21 KB, 219x93, baw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2442242 >>2442239 "Hurr I use an old unused wordfilter so I'M THE COOLEST (oldfat) KID ON 4CHAN AND YOU ARE QUITE OBVIOUSLY A NEWFAG." Please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:23:37 2009 No.2442360 >>2442332 Wouldn't your piano be your equipment then? Just get some good sheet music and you're golden. If you need sheet music I have a lot saved but not with me at the moment. I can post them up later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:24:37 2009 No.2442364 >>2442360 He's talking about recording equipment, hurr.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:24:37 2009 No.2442366 >>2442351 Well... I meant oldfag. Interesting typo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:25:37 2009 No.2442377 >>2442332 Well, unless you wanna like build a MIDI circuit board into your piano or some 1337 ass hax shit like that, I'd suggest starting with a mic to record youself playing piano.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:28:37 2009 No.2442392 >>2442351 Idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:28:37 2009 No.2442396 >>2442360 I was also thinking of buying a keyboard, but I've never played a non acoustic piano so I don't really know where to start.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:31:37 2009 No.2442409 >>2442396 I'd say get a good mic and "buy" a DAW.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:41:37 2009 No.2442470 >>2441791 Very nice, go draw a Satori next.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:52:37 2009 No.2442543 File: 76 KB, 639x756, 1238847893502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2442409 what does a DAW stand for?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:56:37 2009 No.2442569 >>2442543 You could have tried google or wikipedia, but "Digital Audio Workstation". Programs like Cubase, Pro Tools, Sonar, and Adobe Audition to name a few.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 02:30:37 2009 No.2442764 >>2441791 did you do that in illustrator?

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 02:48:37 2009 No.2442859

You know, after listening to that Odoru Touhou Drift arrange album, I'd been thinking of how awesome it would be to do Touhou Kart. Preferably Double Dash-type teams, but make the items unique to the teams. So for a Reisen-Tewei team, they'd get something like a Bullet Bill if they were placing low and I guess they could ride in a carrot cart because I have no imagination. They could have a red eyes item that worked like a Blooper and messed with the screen. That kind of thing. It would be interesting to see people draw cart designs, anyway, even if a game would probably never materialize.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 02:52:37 2009 No.2442882 >>2442859 >Odoru Touhou Drift Requesting.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 03:11:37 2009 No.2442978

>>2441728
I've been working on that for some time already. The basic engine is all but finished and I'm currently building the first stage of SoEW. I guess I'll keep working on it despite what ZUN might or might not have said (after all, I'm primarily doing it to learn stuff), and if it ends up becoming something good I'll try to ask ZUN directly.

My biggest problems are the sprites and the character portraits, that is, anything that requires any drawing ability. If anybody feels like drawing a PC-98 Reimu riding Genji seen from the same perspective as the player character in the games, some Rika tanks or anything I might use as an sprite (even those ghost-like things that act as your basic enemies in all PC-98 games) I'd probably use it.

Also, seeing as some people are interested in making remixes from Touhou themes, you might want to try remixing some songs from the PC-98 games (particularly SoEW). They are probably the easiest, there are much fewer remixes of them already out there and any remake project would be able to use them too.

>>	Uu~ !/UUuUUuUkU Fri Apr 17 03:16:37 2009 No.2442999 File: 93 KB, 688x498, 5517e823693a350ed20b6f200cc88c75.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2442859 >It would be interesting to see people draw cart designs Like this one?

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 03:24:37 2009 No.2443028

>>2442882
Sorry for the retarded way everything is labelled, 98 hates foreign characters. Also for some reason there are two different tracks with the same name, but it's that way on the circle's site, too.
http://rapidshare.com/files/222328674/odoru_tohou_drift-_turbo-.rar.html

>>	Tewaaagh Inabaaagh Fri Apr 17 03:45:37 2009 No.2443073 File: 43 KB, 345x435, neutral.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2442999 All I know in my heart is MAYBE

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 03:49:37 2009 No.2443086

What about writing? I know it's kind of a shunned territory because so many horribad people try it, but if it's actually decent then is it still so shunnable?

I suppose I'm taking requests in that regard. I kind of abandoned my "violent Reisen torture ending in murder" story because it was too violent.

>>	nothing really !.05BETSUNI Fri Apr 17 03:58:37 2009 No.2443106 >>2443086 Writing requests? Usually when someone's come up with an idea they think is good they'll try writing it themselves first

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 04:04:37 2009 No.2443129 >>2443106 But sometimes people come up with ideas they think are bad that can be made into something interesting. And others just don't want to try their ideas.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 04:05:37 2009 No.2443131

>>2443086

Half of the second thread actually talked about writing that bought up a lot of points. It turned into a discussion about how fanfictions have received a bad reputation generally, and how people should be writing regardless. Then people went into talking about novel authors and just a bunch of other things.

I think this post summarizes what people concluded with pretty well.

>>Get off your ass and write. Write regardless of the size of your audience and regardless of who hates it. If they hate the genre or the medium then their opinion is meaningless anyway.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Apr 17 04:22:37 2009 No.2443180

>>2443131

My fault, I brought up some published authors' opinions on fanfiction and accidentally the whole thread.
It definitely gave people an extra boost of confidence, though...hopefully there will be more Touhou/Typemoon copypasta, fics and such because of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 05:07:37 2009 No.2443321 >>2443131 Does this mean I can write diaper fics involving Komachi and Shikieiki?

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:05:37 2009 No.2443453
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Feel free to tell me I do not suck.

Komachi was on top of the world. Shikieiki had given her the month off, and none could argue she was making the best of it. She had just got done having a night out in the human village -they did not all appreciate her presence but she had fun no less- and now she had a wonderful view of sunrise laying on the roof of the tavern. Completely at peace.

A strange, moist breeze blew over. She would have ignored this, but it carried a familiar scent -blood. It took her lazy mind too long to react -she bolted upward and reached for her scythe to find it gone. Looking up, she knew it would make no difference anyway. The face was familiar to Komachi, from her work, but it was distorted -horrific. Yuyuko Saigyouji.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:06:37 2009 No.2443455
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Komachi had heard the stories, but imagined nothing like this. It seemed related to the benevolent airy ghost she knew by color and name alone. It floated without legs or arms. The face was the stuff of nightmares -blood dripped from the jagged maw like it had just torn out of a fresh corpse. Komachi couldn't move. She didn't dare move. The sight alone was enough to strike anyone stiff with fear -even a reaper would fear this, for it was a soul that couldn't be reaped.

She fell back, nearly faint, and slid dangerously close to the edge of the roof. There was only one way out, she had to escape. Get back to Shikieiki -maybe Yuyuko would stop at her. Maybe. A chill ran down her spine, but she shook off the stiffness of fear and dove off the roof.

Immediately she was greeted by cold water. Very cold water -cold water she knew, the water of the Sanzu. Bewildered she swam to the surface and looked around to see her boat nearby and a quizzical ghost on it. It struck her -she was dreaming. A wave of relief and longing swept over her as she flew gently out of the water. There was no danger now, but she didn't have the month off either. She thought she should have realized that nights in the tavern with handsome men are too good to exist out of her dreams.

"Ah, if only." Komachi returned to her duties.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 09:19:37 2009 No.2443876 >>2443453 >>2443455 I don't know much about writing, but why are there so many dashes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 09:39:37 2009 No.2443932 File: 107 KB, 1000x750, satori_sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2442470 >go draw a Satori next. Not the anon you talked to, but here's a quick sketch. I'll try finishing it soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 10:15:37 2009 No.2444040 File: 64 KB, 402x502, 50a1f5a1cc6a64e46788ba87424b9633.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2443876 It's a fault of mine. Generally there aren't so many, but I didn't proofread it that extensively.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 10:26:37 2009 No.2444064
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>>2440391
Don't mind me, just practicing frills and puffy dresses.
Also the design here is a bit off 'cause I didn't have a reference picture at hand. (Sketched this on the train)

>>	samefag Fri Apr 17 10:28:37 2009 No.2444069 >>2444064 also just noticed the different sized boobs, oh lol.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Apr 17 10:32:37 2009 No.2444081 >>2444064 The long eyelash lines give her an awesome resemblance to EFG without the mask. The anatomy is nice and plausible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 11:02:37 2009 No.2444175 File: 139 KB, 1000x750, satori_final.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Done.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 11:16:37 2009 No.2444223 >>2444175 That's a very nice picture, you're good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 11:18:37 2009 No.2444231 >>2444175 Good job Zange, looks real nice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 12:36:37 2009 No.2444498 Bump.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:10:37 2009 No.2444709 >>2442764 Photoshop. Illustrator is more for vector work. >go draw a Satori next. Will do.

>>	miles !LLLLLLLLL.!!yEv/ZBcowB8 Fri Apr 17 13:35:37 2009 No.2444854 >>2444175 Awesome art. Not just because it's Satori either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 14:09:37 2009 No.2445004 >>2444709 Any progress?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 14:12:37 2009 No.2445018 >>2445004 Not yet. Will get it done tonight though. It only takes me 40min to do them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 16:01:37 2009 No.2445445 This is a damn good thread, I just wish there was some way for me to participate, since I can't draw and I have the creative writing skills of a 5 year old. Regardless, nice job to everyone that contributes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 16:47:37 2009 No.2445637 >>2445445 try cultivating a skill rather than whining.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 17:58:37 2009 No.2445939 >>2445637 This.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:07:37 2009 No.2446281 Bump for status check. And you still haven't done anything Sai, what's keeping you back now?

>>	Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q Fri Apr 17 19:16:37 2009 No.2446322 >>2436751 Wait, is that by Yukimi?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:22:37 2009 No.2446357 The only thing I can do halfway decently is color other people's art, and even then my shading is shit. ;_; (I'm also a writefag, but not a very good one and EVERYONE HAET WRITEFAGS LOL etc)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:25:37 2009 No.2446371 >>2446322 Will you go out with me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:25:37 2009 No.2446372 >>2446371 Good thing we're already at 158 posts.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:38:37 2009 No.2446438

>>2446357
refer to
>>2443131

As for coloring, keep on doing it. I don't care if its other people's art or linework, its for practice. Like most people have said before, you can keep whining about the fact that you suck or you can actually do something about it. A little effort is all it takes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:41:37 2009 No.2446464 >>2446438 >A little effort is all it takes. Or a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 19:46:37 2009 No.2446500 >>2446464 But still nothing ever changes if no one ever tries. And this is what a lot of this thread is about, providing a starting point for people whether it be drawing, programming, writing, music production or other skills.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:04:37 2009 No.2446613 >>2446281 Who the hell is Sai?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:25:37 2009 No.2446685 >>2446613 The guy who made the Touhou smirks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:31:37 2009 No.2446720 File: 173 KB, 1250x1425, ransmirk3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2446613

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:31:37 2009 No.2446722
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To be honest the hat-based food products of characters is a rather weak connection even for touhou.

Slopped some colour into the hair so you can actually identify the characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:32:37 2009 No.2446731 Can someone make a smirk image of ZUN please?

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Fri Apr 17 20:36:37 2009 No.2446757 >>2446722 That's cute

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 20:43:37 2009 No.2446795 >>2446757 Thanks. I just noticed I wrote Iku instead of Tenshi in the filename. My bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 23:07:37 2009 No.2447175 Bump for awesome thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 23:09:37 2009 No.2447180 File: 375 KB, 990x990, remilia copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried perspective a bit. It'll take a while until I get this down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 03:21:37 2009 No.2447195 >>2447180 thats a good blowjob face

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 09:19:37 2009 No.2448072 >>2447180 Much better. Though the ear should be a little higher I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 11:57:37 2009 No.2448634 El bumpo

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 15:16:37 2009 No.2449477 >>2447180 When I looked at the thumbnail the proportions looked pretty off. The actual picture is nice though. Maybe try to lower the forehead and raise the ears.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 15:19:37 2009 No.2449489 >>2449477 It still has bad proportions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 15:20:37 2009 No.2449493 >>2449489 And cum on her hair

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 21:26:37 2009 No.2449658 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 01:46:37 2009 No.2449786 testing

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 22:09:59 2009 No.2449786,1 [INTERNAL]

Posting these here for future reference.

http://www.studioqube.com/tutorials/painting/
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm#foreword
http://www.worqx.com/color/color_basics.htm
http://s2.largeimagehost.com/img/untilted/ethrtcr/Maidith1.jpg.html
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46462

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