The Indie Live Expo

[Anonymous No.]

Comiket might have been cancelled, but here is a massive doujin game highlight with hundreds of games.

Japanese stream
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv326047741

Stream with English speaking hosts
https://www.twitch.tv/indie_live_expo_en
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IA68ELtIs


"INDIE Live Expo 2020" is an information program for indie game lovers around the world.
On air at 19:50 on June 6 (Sat) (JST).

We will convey the newest information about indie games in Japanese, Chinese, and English!
We will deliver latest information about both published and unpublished indie game titles.
And it will be also included that messages from game creators who have a close relation to the indie games and love them.

■PROGRAM
【INDIE Live(mini)】
A special concert performed by Dainashi (a rock drummer).An original medley of masterpieces from “UNDERTALE” and “Touhou Project”.
【INDIE Live Premiere】
Information about the newest title of the Indie games.
【INDIE Picks】
Introduction of the picked game titles.
【INDIE Waves】
introduce indie games at once
【INDIE Studios around the World】　
A lecture about the Indie game market by Masatoshi Tokuoka.The first time is focusing on the Polish Indie game industry.
【Fly High to the World! Doujin Game!】
Introduction of the most popular doujin games on DLsite. Presented by EISYS, Inc.　
【Ground Zero for Japanese Indies! What is “Game Market”? 】
Introduction of Game Market and new board games. Presented by ArcLight, Inc.
【Made With Unity】
Introduction of development studio & new games. Presented by Unity Technologies Japan, G.K
【INTI CREATES Info on Some of the Latest Games】
The information of new games.　Presented by INTI CREATES Co., Ltd.
【Massages from Creators and Companies】
Messages from creators and companies to Indie game lovers.
【Eva Game Ogiri Contest Outline】
Detailed outline of the mini-game contest featuring “Evangelion”.

■Presenters and speakers:
Presenter: Atsugiri Jason
Guest: J-mon

Creator message
・ZUN
・Toby Fox
・SWERY
・Kazuya Nino
・Shuhei Yoshida
・Jenova Chen
And more.

special concert
・Dainashi (a rock drummer)

▼#INDIELiveExpo official site
https://indie.live-expo.games/en/

[Anonymous No.]

what happened to the doujin soft fans on /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

zun alert

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>>24115940
I just woke up, has anything stood out?

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized, but Sakuna still hasn't released. Did Edelweiss show up?

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>>24115524
Fuck, you could've made this thread a little earlier.

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>>24118722
you have to lurk a less dead board. This one gets an F for not showing up.

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>>24118789
I get that you're a crossboarder but some of us have self-respect.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a list of games?

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>>24118722
That was the plan. I promise you.
Sadly I am quite sick which has really been messing with me, so I missed the start of it. Did not have time to make a thread in advance. Contemplated whether or not I'd do a thread anyway. And ultimately did a thread around the halfway point.
The original plan was to make thread about this last night, but I wasn't feeling good, couldn't get a moment of sleep. And when I finally did fall asleep in the morning, I woke up in the middle of the stream.

I failed.

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>>24119080
The /v/ threads were lively and not filled with /v/ shitposters because they were actually talking about videogames, so it was fine.

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>>24119102
Yeah. Before making my thread I made a site wide search for the topic in case there were already threads up.
Shockingly fine threads for /v/, though sadly no thread here on /jp/ before this one.

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>>24119080
You can redeem yourself by going through the broadcast and making a list of newly announced games.

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>>24119143
/v/ had 5 threads hit bump limit with doujin soft discussion. Excitement for Touhou fangames, ZUN speaking and such.
/jp/ has one thread created 1 hour into the event with less than 10 replies and missed discussing anything that happened.
You have to came to terms with it - new /jp/ would rather talk about 3D whores than doujin soft and Touhou news, which was the reason why /jp/ was created to begin with.

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>>24119102
>>24119143
I just checked one of the threads out and you guy's standards are extremely low.

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>>24119247
/jp/ has never cared much about doujin games that weren't touhou or yume nikki related anyway. The only reason comiket and reitaisai threads existed were to upload music.

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>>24119948
Back when Hong Meiling and Remilia were still active and regularly uploaded games every comiket, and before /vg/ existed, /jp/ had quite a lot of discussion going on around doujin games even if they weren't Touhou related or anything.
But I suppose those were very different times.

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>>24120063
I can't think of any that weren't porn games. People talk about doujin games around comiket. I even made the game threads(not uploaded, just made them and reminded people games exist) for the last few comikets. But after it's over, discussion barely remains. Also checking back, /vg/ wasn't made that long after /jp/, there was just some weird exodus of topics at one point. Probably because of the shitposting era.

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>>24120063
those were the times when it wasnt endless generals

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>>24120269
/vg/ was made shortly after the Katawa Shoujo incident on /jp/.
The creation of /vg/ absolutely fundamentally changed /jp/ though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24120346
because it hurt visual novels hard also

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>>24120353
That whole autism between the english and japanese visual novel threads were real bad. Then people retreated to /vg/ instead of dealing with it, which honestly was to no benefit to anybody. Being restricted to one never ending chain of threads is absolutely worse than having a whole board for your topic. And even the people in the Japanese VN threads here have to deal with how /jp/ as a whole has became rather starved of users for tons of related topics in general.
Fuck /vg/ even has Touhou threads now and have had that for quite some time even.

In the end one truth just so happens to be that people typically engage in more than one topic. Meaning that when all the english VN people left the board the doujin games threads got starved of people since a lot of the people that discussed the VNs were also a large portion of the people that discussed doujin games. And when the doujin games threads got starved on people a lot of people who remained sought other places to discuss doujin games because the rapidly falling user count here made discussion difficult. And with more people leaving, more people left. And with the doujin games audience shrinking, the doujin music audience shrunk too even though it has survived much more successfully. And with that audience shrinking the doujin manga and all aspects of doujin discussion shrunk rapidly too.

One thing after another. It's been really depressing really.

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>>24120452
general culture is stupid, and look at what its done here: we barely have threads like this because they either are swarmed out, get cramped into a general, or get bumped to /vg/. its sad really. the /2hug/ general doesnt even need to exist: its only there because of a fucking cirno get.

Im unsure what we can do with doujin games here: mods are shit

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>>24115524
Those two guys at the bottom are the most obnoxious cunts ever.
The fuck is this fetish bullshit? https://youtu.be/v0IA68ELtIs?t=6959

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>>24120452
Music discussion is falling off because doujinstyle became a discord circlejerk and /jp/ has no place to get music and doujin games from besides its own userbase.

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>>24120655
>discord circlejerk
isnt that everything?

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>>24120661
It's the final evolution of, and solution to, generals.
But in this case, they're keeping the uploads in the circlejerk too so you have to go into it to get at them.

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>>24120801
generals shouldnt exist, and discord is garbage. I say this as someone who goes on /vg/, and its okay. The main problem is name faggotry and people identifying shit from one another. The hololive threads are a main example of what has hurt /jp/ the most: Offside retards.

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>>24120830
>The main problem is name faggotry and people identifying shit from one another.
In good ol' pre-general /jp/, there were tons of tripfags about though

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>>24119247
i would rather talk about touhou with 3 people over the course of two weeks than deal with a /v/ thread about it

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>>24121178
tripfags are better than generals

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>>24121225
3 people? This thread shows that there is no community for doujin games on /jp/.

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>>24121443
This thread and the event is partially about indie games, which some would argue is not even /jp/ at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I should have probably made a few, less gigantic collages instead of giant one.
But I made a huge collage of (hopefully) all the games shown, in chronological order left to right, top down. Had to shrink it down a ton though in order for the resolution and filesize to be acceptable under 4chan limitations.

And combined with the lossy compression I kind of fear that you can't get very much out of the images. Some of the text can even be kind of difficult to read and a lot of the screenshots might not have been the best shots to represent the game. Oh well.
I have my doubts in regards to how many people would actually appreciate this, but I wanted to make it regardless. And this was kind of what I had in mind when I initially sought to list the games anyway.

For what it's worth. I might as well link the full resolution collage as well, but it's 24960 x 12960 and over 40MB.
And again I doubt anyone really cares that much, though in case anyone does it might be worth to point out that uguu is a temporary host and will delete the file 24 hours from now.
https://a.uguu.se/zp50ndx1VMls_indie-live-expo-2020-06-06.jpg

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>>24122091
>which some would argue is not even /jp/ at all.
I don't like those people. I don't like them one bit! And they're wrong!

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>>24122341
Don't bother, Anon. This thread has already turned into yet another "Why is /jp/ so shitty?" thread with no one even wanting to talk about any games, including the Touhou ones. It's already at the point at which people try to spin /jp/ having no discussion into a positive thing again.

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>>24122341
Thanks anon, huh, most of them sure didnt appeal to me and I am mainly a bit surprised that some games that are already out globally are showcased here.

On that note, I wonder why am I less excited about such indie games nowadays

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>>24122341
Good job anon. Even the 4mb version is enough to get the gist of the game from the screencap and read the titles, so if anyone's interested they can search the names to get more info/gameplay. Thanks for doing this.

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>>24122341
That Cogen game really does look just like an Inti Creates game, and I mean that with the highest amount of praise.
Hopefully the gameplay will actually hold up, and have a decent amount of content too.

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>>24122341
Make one with only Japanese games. Chinese, Korean, and Western ones aren't needed.

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There were several games showcased that caught my interest. But if I am to be frank one of the reveals that got me the most excited out of all of them, isn't even a new game. In fact it's quite a few years old already at this.
But I am unironically overjoyed that OWH+ is coming to the Switch. With OWH2 being in development and with how Mystery Chronicle was made together with Spike Chunsoft. I kind of didn't expect the classic OWH to get any more love.
I've wanted OWH+ on my phone or my Switch or anything decent that's handheld so bad. One of the reasons for why I've been so excited for OWH2 in the first place, aside from how I loved OWH1, was that it'll be available on phones and handhelds in addition to PC.
And here, catching me completely by surprise. OWH+ on the Switch after I had given up hope for any more OWH1 support. It already has a storepage up and everything, with the English store citing a release as soon as on the 18th. That's a surprise I was not expecting to see today.

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>>24122799
And only now do I realize I somehow erased the trailer from my post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBIjtOQXzXM

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>>24122341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQymMYdOOE
Wait. Transiruby is by the Kamiko dev? Only realized that now, trying to find a larger trailer for the game. Which I didn't find.
Oh wait. Now that I am looking through the youtube channel. Transiruby and Picontier are by the same dev too? And publisher.
But they were shown like hours apart in the stream. For what purpose?

But if Transiruby and Kamiko are by the same developer. Let me ask this. Isn't that game extremely short? Like extremely short? I've heard things about it but still. I'd hope that Transiruby would have a little more meat to it if Kamiko is lacking in that area. But if he is also working on Picontier. Well. Hopefully it works out somehow. They were two of the games that looked rather promising I'd say.

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>>24122799
>>24122902
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope something good comes out of this Eva thing. I'd love to see a good Evangelion fan game.

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>>24137642
tfw there is still no Eva fangame with Robot Alchemic Drive's controls.

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>>24144385
>Robot Alchemic Drive
That game is wonderful. A bit janky. But soulful and wonderful.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we have any idea whether or not Craftopia is purely sandbox or whether or not it has any end goals?

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>>24115524

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>>24115524

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>>24154005
>>24153690
are people spamming that quickly?

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That's it huh? No more than 13 posters over the course of 3 and a half day?
That's half of what the typical off-topic shitpost thread get. And several times less than that of threads of established topics.

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>>24169588
What do you want us to talk about? All these non Japanese games that are off topic? The Japanese ones that can't be played? The ones that you could have pirated years ago and played and discussed to death already? To top it off, a lot of these are console games and this isn't a console game board.

>And several times less than that of threads of established topics.
Do you mean those /vg/ threads populated only by /vg/ posters who post hundreds of times a day? Go look at normal /jp/ threads and how long they last. This thread might reach 300 posts, but it'll take a month or 2. Go back to /v/ if you need fast paced discussion of hyping up nothing.

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>>24169588

/jp/ is reclining, what did you expect.

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>>24169635
I just meant regular board topic discussions.
But even when you compare non-/vg/ type threads that have only been live for 3 days or less, they've still got twice or several times more posters than this thread.

Also. Console games were always /jp/. If they were VNs, galge, or otherwise doujin titles somehow.
The above categories are simply PC titles >90% of the time but that doesn't make the exceptions non-/jp/ somehow.

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>>24169694
>Console games were always /jp/.
It's more like people tend to play PC games. It's not universally true, see: iM@S, but in general porn games and doujin games are pc games before these recent times. What I'm saying is less people play consoles so less people are able to discuss console games.

>they've still got twice or several times more posters than this thread.
They have something to talk about. This thread is "hey, look at this long ass video". Someone has to start a discussion that's not meta talk about /jp/.

For example, someone could say what ZUN was talking about.

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>>24171075
>For example, someone could say what ZUN was talking about.
"Get out from behind that screen and fight me, Toby"?

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If someone has the cut of ZUN talking (a transcript would make it 100x easier) I can try to take a stab at translating it, though I imagine people have already rendered a summary somewhere.

>>24121443
I hate to say it, but this is probably correct. Interest in doujin as a whole in /jp/ has basically fallen off the map outside of Touhou pornography. All-ages Touhou doujinshi, fangames of many varieties, and M3 used to get spirited threads here but they have pretty much all fucked off the face of the earth.

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>>24175999
Oldfags left and there's no new blood. /jp/ unironically got too old.

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>>24175999
>>24176149
Quit whining about /jp/ and either bring up a topic to discuss or let the thread die.

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>>24177089
Quit whining about the thread and either discuss the topic or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

expo

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>>24175923
believable

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And here I remembered the jay so I tried to look for doujin games to play in the archive, and found a sad thread about something that might have been interesting but got too taken over by negativity.
I thought about just letting it die but decided otherwise for the sake of doujin game culture. Even though that won't extend its life much more than a day or bring everyone back.

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>>24204537
>>24176149
>>24169588

why don't you doomposting nostalgiafags just fuck already?

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently the developers behind Craftopia did a cardgame of sorts before Craftopia.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/919370/Overdungeon/

Have anyone here ever heard of or perhaps even tried this game before?

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>>24204943
Okay Vtuber fag

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>>24211951
Not him. And I love doujin games. But I also find VTubers really cute. Especially when they play doujin games, which they actually do surprisingly often.

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>>24212143
Cool, you can go talk about it in your general.

[Anonymous No.]

Any good indie games on places like steam lately?

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>>24212178
I never bring up vtubers elsewhere. You were the one who brought them up. We can end this conversation now and never bring up vtubers outside the related threads again if you'd like but this exchange happened because of you, not me.

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>>24212184
Fuck steam.

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>>24212224
I'm not the anon who said ''Okay Vtuber fag''
You didn't need to reply to him and you didn't need to reply to me. Go back to your general, please.

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>>24212184
I was recommended Orangeblood but I haven't tried it myself yet. So I can't really say much about it.