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If you have a question about a specific product, please link it so people know what you're talking about.

The ona guide: http://pastebin.com/hwhGL66a

The doll guide: https://pastebin.com/rrUa6jKF

- Don't buy from OtonaJP. Don't say we didn't warn you -

>Please read the guide, use the archive, don't shitpost. Follow global and local rules. Don't reply, report and ignore instead.

>Length, girth, budget and geographical location are extremely important in determining your next best course of action!


Previous: >>23943356

>> No.24038702

>>24037258
To be fair, it's Tomax being Jew themselves with their insistence of "exclusivity"

>>24037594
So you want something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Behrens-3-OV-16-Gallon-Oval-Steel/dp/B002YJJJQ6/

>>24037598
Lovely girl's drool is sweet.
And in terms of BJ holes, there's this one by A-One
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/hey-blow-job

>> No.24039252

I was looking around but I can't find a concrete answer on whether or not I'm gonna be rapped by the authorities for shipping what could be viewed as a minor depicted on the box of a onahole I want shipped to Australia. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

>> No.24039831

i just like the name of this one, lol

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/fellappuccino

>> No.24040138

>>24039252
I'm not an Aussie but I do believe that Aussies banned flat tits so you're better off asking the package to be removed

>> No.24040323

>>24039252
Which item?

>> No.24040381

>>24040323
It was between these two.
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/la-bocca-della-verita
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/okuchi-motion-800

>> No.24040417

I'm edging till my Kahanshin DX comes in.

>> No.24040567

Does anyone got a good anal onahole recommendation, that is tight and has an intense variation?

And does anyone have the student council president one and has an opinion on it?

>> No.24040651

>>24040567
Student council president is a glorified cockring
Tong ggo 2 is fine

>> No.24040889

>>24037258
Holy shit...89 Euro....ripoff

>> No.24040994

>>24040381
La Bocca is fine. Here it is on an Australian-based (Melbourne) website
https://japaneselovetoys.com.au/the-mouth-of-truth-%E2%80%9Cla-bocca-della-verita%E2%80%9D-?search=la%20bocca

Couldn't find the Okuchi on the same website, but considering that she is more clothed than the girl on la bocca, the item should be fine to import as well.

>> No.24041107

So anons, I want to fuck my Venus Real/Meiki Plush like 3 times spaced out today. However, I want want to clean it out after each session. Is it safe to keep using it for the whole day without rinsing it out, using my cum as lube?

>> No.24041169

>>24038702
Yes, exactly what I'm looking for! Think it'll fit this doll? https://asexdoll.com/shop/asian-sex-doll/summer-sex-doll/

>> No.24041195

>>24041107
I don't want*

>> No.24041460

>>24041107
Cum doesn't work too well as lube. I end up with irritated dick if I don't add lube when I'm going for a second round
I wouldn't risk leaving the cum inside for the whole day

>> No.24041576

>>24038702
Yeah but still, on MotsuToys it's almost double the price compared to ToyDemon and on top of that they usually are awfully slow on keeping stock
>>24040889
ikr, even OmochaDreams has it for cheaper which is supposed to be more jewish

>> No.24041592

>>24041460
Ah, but man I really don't want to waste the lube like that. I mean, I'll add a bit more but to clean out the whole thing each time when I'll be using it again in the day is too much.

>> No.24041662

>>24040567
>>24040651
Any good anal ona besides tong ggo2 ?

>> No.24042027
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24042027

About to max out my credit card on a sanhui. My main use is just to cuddle, the daki doesn't cut it anymore :(

... my question is, will the doll deform or have any other permanent issues I should be concerned about? The help desk at sanhui emailed me saying it isn't a problem but at the same time they dont have a warranty for this, so of course I don't fully trust em.

Do we know any material or brand of doll or even bed that are good for having a doll exclusively stay on the bed?

>> No.24042157

Not quite onahole related, but after seeing one too many depictions of men having their nipples played with, I'm in the mood for a nipple based toy. Anyone tried them out?

>> No.24042159

>>24041169
You may want a bigger steel tub for that kind of doll since the description page for the doll says its about 135cm/4feet and the tub is about 2 feet in length. Although you could probably fit her in if you don't mind having her legs hang out and over.

>> No.24042287

>>24042159
I've tried looking but can't find anything bigger. Got any links yourself perhaps?

>> No.24042297

>>24042027
The doll won't deform. The skeleton may wear out over time, but that will take years. A quick google search on caring for silicone dolls will tell you what you need to know about maintenance.

If you want to keep her on the bed, memory foam is the best.

>> No.24042439

>>24042287
I've been trying but I can't exactly find any bigger than those, at least ones that are meant to have water in them.

>> No.24042448

>>24042439
I see, well thanks for the link you gave me. Worse comes to worse I'll make due with that.

>> No.24042475

>>24041662
There's the K2MAN by A-One if you don't mind being a little (or a lot) gay.
There's also the Churro Screw by G-Project

>> No.24042544
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24042544

>>24042297
Thank you senpai

>> No.24042980

>>24042027
Memory foam, keep in natural and flat positions. Cheap and dark clothes will stain so don’t leave clothes on forever.

Most dolls come with a soft white/peach blanket. Keep that around. Your doll won’t lose shape from laying in bed. Even if it did it would go back.

>> No.24043149

>>24042027
Which model are you going for? Sanhui is my dream doll once I've gotten my life in order. Have you been keeping up to date with reviews and such to see if they fixed their skeleton issues?

>> No.24043171

>>24042027
>about to max out my credit card
I've been keeping up with payments on my card but am thinking about possibly doing this for the Summer sili doll. How long does it usually take you to pay off your card if you max it out like that?

>> No.24043546

Maybe this is off topic but anyone know some good JOI videos using an onahole/for onaholes?

>> No.24045340

>>24043149
160cm nonoka but with all the softness implants possible.
>>24043171
Everyone has different cards with different rules from different banks.
For me though the interest for holding a balance isn't much at all so I dont worry.

>> No.24045470

>>24040994
Thanks for the help man.

>> No.24047490

Anyone here that owns this?

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/real-angel-s-extreme

Been thinking on buying it as my first hip, reviews are overall good, but some complain about it been some what dull and rather firm on the outside.

Any thoughts? I'm between this or a expensive tier ona like the witch temptation.

>> No.24047554

>>24042980
>Cheap and dark clothes will stain so don’t leave clothes on forever.
Only if you didn't powder like I said to :^)

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24048275

I just proved that onaholes are inferior to real sex

If: two numerical values are equal to 2 and 4 respectively
And: 2 is called A and 4 is called B
And: You get high on A and it feels like B while sober
And we assume that high means + 2 numerical value

Then A + 2 = B


A > B

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24048302

I just proved that onaholes are inferior to real sex

If: two numerical values are equal to 2 and 4 respectively
And: 2 is called A and 4 is called B
And: You get high on A and it feels like B while sober
And we assume that high means + 2 numerical value

Then: A + 2 = B

A < B

>> No.24048321

>>24048275
>>24048302
You were right the first time.

>> No.24048332

>>24048321
re-read my post

>> No.24048369

>>24048332
Onas are superior

>> No.24048371

>>24048369
learn2math

>> No.24048529

What's a good wig, mask, helmet, or something I can use with the Meiki Plush to add more visual stimulus?

>> No.24048622

Okay guys I ran into an issue.
I was sure to read the pastebin very carefully the first time and I followed through with my carefully researched first purchase
the problem is that I think I got my BPEL measurement wrong ( I think I had originally thought it was 6-6.5 inches but it turned out to be 7.5 inches) and also failed to take into account the fact that my dick curves down a bit likely due to being uncut
Though if that curve wasn't there that'd bump my BPEL to 8 inches
so now I think I accidentally made a pin-sized hole in the back of the onahole where lube/water leaks out of because during, during use, I can see and feel my dick poking pretty hard through the back (because downward curve)
I'm willing to buy one more onahole (this time with lube) but I'd need something that can accommodate for that slight curve and size
also having both a vaginal passage and asshole passage would be a plus but beggars can't be choosers

>> No.24048690

>>24038593
United States, 6 inches, uncut. What Venus Real firmness is ideal? Any other suggestions? Asking out of curiosity more than anything.

>> No.24049603

best first onahip? im kind of a cheapo

>> No.24050055
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24050055

>>24043171
Open a new card, a lot of the good ones have 0% interest for like 12-15 months. Free financing option

>> No.24050727

>>24049603
I have Puni Ana DX Hard and it's fine
It's not that stimulating so I guess you could get the soft one for extra long sessions
Flush hole means you need to put it on a towel for fucking but makes it trivial to clean, it's single layer and thus pretty durable
The only downside is that it's pretty small but that's expected for the price

>> No.24051386

>>24050055
>free financing option
That''s where you buy the item and get to take it home on the spot, but pay for it bit by bit, right?

>> No.24051547

So I took another look at the pastebin and the spreadsheet within and these are the only onaholes on there that seem to have a passage length suitable for my size
https://www.e-nls.com/pict1-38060
https://www.e-nls.com/pict1-43665
https://www.e-nls.com/pict1-44058
https://www.e-nls.com/pict1-39684
Of these ones, I'm leaning more towards the りある because it's on the cheaper side but I don't know what other sites sell it and I can't find it on ToyDemon
any advice?

>> No.24051749

>>24048622
Are you the moron with MoT and drugstore lube from the previous thread?
MoT is pretty small, like 12-13 cms so you might be severely overestimating your dick. Magic Eyes stuff is generally on the fragile side.
Assuming >>24051547 is yours, refer to >>24050727

>> No.24051885

>>24051749
>Are you the moron with MoT and drugstore lube from the previous thread?
No, I wasn't there for like the latter 70% of the last thread
>you might be severely overestimating your dick
I fairly certain I got it right this time
>Puni Ana DX Hard
I looked at that one but it's a bit pricey for me and it also doesn't seem to be on ToyDemon
I'd prefer anything under $100 since I can't make back any money I spend right now due to being unable to work with no end in sight

>> No.24052484

>>24051885
Normal (soft) version is $80, but yeah it doesn't seem to be on toydemon

>> No.24053418

>>24050727
>soft for long sessions
>bust buckets after 2-3 minutes of cowgirl
Dang

>> No.24053610

Am I missing something, or is VAA kind of durable for how cheap it is? Doesn't seem like there's any fragile bits aside from maybe wearing out the entrance over time.

>> No.24054995

Is there an uterus onahole where the cervix is more like a wall you have to push through? I purchased the Magic Eyes Gokusai Uterus and the uterus itself didn't really do it for me.

>> No.24055052

>>24054995
Are there also any other dick-bullys like the student council out there? I really enjoyed the entrance to that hole in particular but if i wanted just a cock ring i'd have bought a cock ring.

>> No.24055355

Yo bros, what's the best and most inexpensive (bang for the buck) onahole for starters and what sites are best to buy internationally?

>> No.24055442

>>24055052
https://www.amazon.com/ToysHeart-Super-Tight-Cyclist-Onahole/dp/B07BNP1CQ9

biggest bully

>> No.24055469

>>24055442
>>24055442
Already got that, and yes it's a cock terrorist.

>> No.24055480

Is there a way to increase the pleasure factor of my TENGA eggs?

>> No.24055529

>>24055355
Amazonjp is your best bet on price and shipping. If you want value you can try the Vacuum Witch durable as hell but a bit pricey. Just avoid Magic Eyes for now since their quality control is a joke despite their good holes.

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24055642

>>24040417
Review soon?

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24055660

>>24041107
Under 4 hours is fine.

>> No.24055672 [DELETED] 

>>24038593
I just ordered a Verita, but I forgot that my PO Box requires me to send an invoice of my order. What should I do?

>> No.24056706

>>24049603
The Puni Ana DX clone on Amazon. It's like half the price.

>> No.24057167

What's a good milf onahole

>> No.24057182

Opinion on the Young Proprietress Hospitality?

>> No.24057480

>>24055529
Is there a site that's more specialized? I don't wanna browse Amazon between unrelated things till I find something I like and Amazon may or may not deliver where I live.

>> No.24057516

>>24057480
amazonjp and amazon use different accounts.

>> No.24057583

Thoughts https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/uterus-okunomiya-kobukuro#reviews ??

>> No.24058191

>>24038593
I'm going to buy some 7.50$ thing on Amazon, and am looking for something to add to get free shipping. What's something worth buying for >= 17.50?

Also, for the hell of it. What's a good place to get an njoy pure wand?

>> No.24058400

>>24048690
If you know you're sensitive, then you should start off with Soft. If you know you like a bit of firmness or are aware of having death grip, I'd probably go with medium. Soft in most cases is a good starting point for people who don't know what they like as its a middle ground when it comes to feeling for onaholes.

>>24051547
The pastebin is unfortunately outdated and all of those are fairly "old" products so there are more out there. Keep in mind that solf onaholes/onahips are capable of streching so you can usually compensate for an inch/2 cm shorter tunnel than your weapon, sometimes even 2 inches/5 cm depending on the hole.

>>24053610
Single layer holes are almost always more durable. VAA is also pretty compact so its sturdier than the average hole.

>>24054995
Kobukuro by HotPowers, Uterus Adulter by A-One. and Hon Mono by G-Project.Dophin by Tomax and Virgin Matchless Kurogane by Fillworks sorta count (they have multiple "uteri" walls to push through, but no chamber like theother Kobukuro especially because the uterus is placed in the middle of the hole instead of the head. If you're willing to wait, you'll want to order the Kobukuro through HotPowers' own website as they can create custom ones with varying firmness. The standard one sold through online storefronts not their own only come in the "0" firmness, which is fairly soft, comparable to Tomax's Soft.

>>24057480
For North America there's ToyDemon
For Europe theres MotsuToys and OmachoDreams, but they typically have stocking issues. You can try OtonaJP's EU branch, as long as you're aware that their Terms and Conditions are worded as such so that they are not obliged to fufill your order after they take your money or that they can sometimes take months to ship out your order. They're like a roulette. Sometimes they "just werk" and sometimes they don't at all. Just don't come bitching to us if they decide to randomly screw you over.
For Australians, theres JapaneseLoveToys.

>>24057583
see
>>23974455
>>24004211
>>24004699

If you're willing to wait (for quite a while because EMS is ded ATM and they only ship internationally via EMS), I'd order directly from HotPowers website to get a custom one in a firmer softness. (like a+1 or +2)

>> No.24059464

Anons, I want to insert a Mouth of Truth inside the head of my Meiki Plus DX for a more natural feeling blowjob experience. I want it to feel more like I'm actually getting sucked off rather than jerking off. Problem is I can't sew for shit & wouldn't know the first thing about how to approach it. Any suggestions?

>> No.24059655

>>24059464
If you still want to try to sew your gonna need to practice adding a pocket to like a pillow. If you dont feel up to the task of sewing you can always try out the magic face 2 since its an entire head you can fuck

>> No.24059687

>>24059655
I was thinking of going with magic face 2, but then read reviews & saw the magic face 1 in action. Wasn't that impressed. I then decided I wanted to go with a doll head, but after thinking about it I realized I might as well just wait and get a doll during a sale with how expensive the head is by itself. I want to use the mouth of truth with the DX because the MoT is amazing from what I've read.

Also could you go into a bit more detail about the pocket?

>> No.24059976

>>24059464
Find your local seamstress, pay her to sew a few masks for you and slip the plush order in so she won't suspect a thing.

>> No.24060007

>>24059976
The masks order makes sense, but how exactly do I let her know I want her to make a mouth for my 10 pound humanoid plush doll? Seriously, give me a convincing line that doesn't make me come off as a total creep.

>> No.24060128

Can anyone tell me about the soft Mouth of Truth and the normal Mouth of Truth?

Namely teeth and feeling.

>> No.24060633

>>24060128
I've scratched my dick on the regular version's teeth.

>> No.24060701

>>24058400
>you can usually compensate for an inch/2 cm shorter tunnel than your weapon, sometimes even 2 inches/5 cm depending on the hole.
Does ToyDemon, Amazon, or any other sites that ship to America have a way to search by tunnel length?

>> No.24060884

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/puni-ana-re
thoughts on this, anyone?

>> No.24061003

What is a good hole supposed to feel like exactly

>> No.24061295

>>24060007
Tell her it's to your mask dispenser, and the hole is there to store all the masks she sewed for you.

>> No.24061948

i tried the sujiman kupa roa as my first onahole and found it not really that stimulating. what should i be looking for? something hard? smaller? just higher quality?

>> No.24061990

>>24061948
http://curedeathgrip.com/

>> No.24062619

>>24060701
Unfortunately no. They only search by the sizeof the actual toy.
I use websites like https://www.ms-online.co.jp/ or hotpowers.jp or https://daimaoh.co.jp/ to get tunnel lengths as they usually have internal measurements for the holes they sell.

>>24061948
Roa's a mild hole in general. You could try thinning out your lube with a few drops of water. If you want something firmer and more stimulating, check out the Virgin Matchless Kurogane.

>> No.24062826

I wonder if my city burning down will effect deliveries

>> No.24062950

what is this
https://twitter.com/Gproject_info/status/1267704761228222465

>> No.24063094

>>24062950
Its one of their Goku products (maybe the Hida Virgin) attached to a Puni Ana Roid.

>> No.24063152

>>24063094
fuck, I should have bought that instead of the Roid 2

>> No.24063739

>>24060128
I have soft and I don't really notice the teeth. They're still made out of plastic

>> No.24063811

How good are drying sticks? I'm having serious trouble drying Virgo properly because of its length

>> No.24064294

>>24060884
bump
Sorry if I seem impatient, just want to know before they sell out

>> No.24064296

>>24055442
She must be rich or a professional athlete to be riding a Madone.

>> No.24064344

>>24063811
They do as intended. Just keep in mind that they can be delicate.

>> No.24064625

What is the average price for Extra virgin? I plan on ordering from Toydemon but wondering if I'm overpaying?

>> No.24065208

>>24064625
You're overpaying if you drop more than $50 for it.
Ordering it from Amazon JP + Shipping comes up to about $44 in total.

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24065213

I am finally ordering my custom Aotume of Plutia today. Just waiting for an email back to double check I have all of the information correct before I send off the money.

I'm so fucking antsy guys. I ordered a lot of cute clothes for her already, and next is buying her outfit from the game from a custom sizing cosplay site. It will probably take 3 weeks or so from today for her to arrive. Time feels so slow...

Any tips on what to do with my time while I wait?

>> No.24065443

>>24065213
replay her games

>> No.24065860
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24065860

My first onahole just arrived yesterday. I wasn't sure about what to expect, but I am surprised now, I think I can't go back...
Do they last for a while?

>> No.24065925

>>24065860
Just make sure you wash it and avoid turning it inside out since it will deteriorate faster. Welcome to the slippery slope

>> No.24066032

when a product on ToyDemon says it has lotion included, how much does it usually come with or does it differ from product to product?

>> No.24066095

Onatsuyu Pussy Juicy Lotion or Meiki Bliss Lotion?

>> No.24066144

>>24066032
Most onaholes come with such a small amount that you get a few uses out of them at most. Few exceptions like Finest Lady Potential and Atelier Onahole come with bottles that'll last you months

>> No.24066308

>>24065925
Washed it with lots of water and my finger, but seems difficoult to dry it up after washing it, left it to take air for a long time.
Thank you, I like this slippery place, I am already wishing to try other holes to see if they are all so fun.

>> No.24066352

>>24066308
If you can get some of those small microfiber cloths you can use those for drying the internals

>> No.24066416

>>24066352
Thank you, will get them on amazon. Are they the same kind of cloths they give you to clean your glasses?

>> No.24066463

>>24066416
no

>> No.24066497

>>24066416
No. You use the same type of microfiber cloths you would use to clean the interior of a car since they are highly absorbant and gentle on products.

>> No.24066535

>>24066463
>>24066497
Okay, Thanks, I understand what they are now. That will make things easier and seems safe as well.

>> No.24066590

>>24038593
Last time I came here you guys were all about OtonaJP, what happened?

>> No.24066607

>>24066590
OtonaJP used to be good then they started taking forever to do anything. Imagine not getting any updates on your order for over a month and not getting any response from emails

>> No.24066694

>>24066590
They came out during a time where we really needed someone since English NLS shut down their services. At first they fufilled orders quickly and efficiently. Their customer service was responsive too.
Then, either due to cockyness or a change in employment they started implenting scumbag tactics. They changed their Terms and Conditions as such in that they are not obliged to fufill your order for any reason after you pay them. Then when people voice their complaints of them on Trustpilot, OtonaJP gets rid of the 1 star reviews that call them out.
Other problems include: extremely varying shipping/processing times (which go way beyond on what is stated on the product page), their unresponsive customer service, their constant shilling all over the internet, and their extremely high shipping costs (which I'm sure they inflate to pocket extra money).
You're pretty much taking a gamble every time you order from them. With Amazon JP now shipping internationally wjithout the use of a proxy for most of their onahole items and more storefronts popping up, there's not much of a reason to order from OtonaJP (or their European branch) these days. Only order from them after you have exhausted all your options or as a last resort, but you have been warned.

>> No.24067454

>>24061990
That's a myth.
The body can grow accustomed to stimulatiosn, and has nothing to do with nerve endings being dead. Change the stimulation, and peak orgasm can be reached again.
The stimulations can be anything, a new onahole, a lewder pic, a more aggressive girlfriend, dirty asmr, ryona of your favorite video game character, etc.
The only way a dick can lose sensitivity is if you're circumcised and have been letting your little boy scrape against your pants. Hulk smashing your dick won't make it weak, it just gotten used to being hulk smashed.

>> No.24067868

>>24057583
Already discussed a lot in previous threads, check them out.

>> No.24067952

>>24058400
>If you're willing to wait, you'll want to order the Kobukuro through HotPowers' own website as they can create custom ones with varying firmness.

any idea how long?

>> No.24069103

>>24065208
does amazonjp ship to NA?

It's 46 on toyddemon

>> No.24069191

>>24069103
yes

>> No.24069210

>>24069191
thanks anon hopefully they don't ship the box i don't want to get shit for it in texas

>> No.24069355

Kahanshin videos when?

>> No.24069382

>>24069210
why would you get shit for it? it will go through customs in california most likely.

>> No.24069810

>>24069103
Yes, but beware that they use DHL for everything and its per item, not per order.

>> No.24069888

>>24069810
>Yes, but beware that they use DHL for everything and its per item, not per order.
holy fuck is there another place that i can get it? I only seemed to find toydemon having the extra virgin in stock.

>> No.24070012

>>24069810
>>24069888
Its only per item if you choose to have it shipped as such (like if an item is out of stock and its on backorder). I ordered 7 items in total from them just a few weeks ago. The items themselves came up to about $131 and the shipping was $38 and it all came in one box.

>> No.24070220
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Hey /ona/, just wanted to say thanks for your advice and leading me down this path. Ever since getting my ona, my deathgrip is gone and my sensitivity is way up. It's way cleaner too. <3 thanks anons

>> No.24070258

How do you guys use your holes? Do you have some kind of setup so you don't have to hold in in your hand?

>> No.24070324

>>24008723
Just got done using it. First time I've ever used one of these hard crystal types. It's definitely very firm and won't stay on your dick of you don't hold it down. The see through was neat and exactly what I was looking for. The feeling was definitely strong. It feels like it's scraping against your head at all times, there is no safe area with this ona. Which I enjoyed because I like dick bullies. All in all I don't regret my purchase since it was only 26 bucks with shipping. Think I'm gonna try that Toysheart Cyclist one that people talk about next

>> No.24070458

>>24070258
I have my girlfriend hold it

>> No.24070756

>>24070258
Meiki Plush is absolutely amazing. Seriously, next to having a full scale doll it's the best thing, and easier to clean up.

>> No.24071277

>>24070258
I second the Meiki Plush. Its pretty compact so its easy to store. Using your hips makes a world of difference

>> No.24071380

>>24055642
I'm still waiting for tracking info.
Knew I shouldn't have gone for free delivery.

>> No.24072704

>>24070258
I just smash and dash

>> No.24073116
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Have some ona gore.

These have been in storage for at least three years unused. The cloth bags that held them were tearing the moment I grabbed them. They were stored in a pretty well ventilated area so I was surprised that they developed spots at all, and yes they were all washed, dried and powdered before storage.

I flipped them inside out to check if the mold had gone in but the insides were a lot better compared to the outside, one had a faint brown patch and the other had a couple of black specks. I'm keeping the sarah and rubbing it in baby oil since that's what TPE doll owners do with their dolls. Gonna see what happens to the onahole and if baby oil eats it.

At least my ZYX and kobukuro will be arriving soon.

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>>24065213
Pray to the shipping gods.

>> No.24074297

>>24040138
>I do believe that Aussies banned flat tits
That's a myth. But that said, loli art is completely illegal there and they do still ban "child sex dolls" and someone was arrested a while back for importing an onahole deemed to represent a minor.

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>>24065860
Mad Catz mousepad?

Also, congrats on your first ona.

Do not put dyed fabric on the onahole as it might stain.

>> No.24074336
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24074336

havent bought an ona in a couple of years. whats the best ona i can get on amazon us with prime shipping?

>> No.24074580

>>24074336
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075L68LJV/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OSWAIJ4/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LKWMO3I

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GZSGJB

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JPDHNB6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003I4DMJ6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TRQ69SU

>> No.24074825

>>24074321
>Mad Catz
Lol yes old mousepad, gamer brands are all crappy anyway, the mouse in the picture is replacement that amazon sent because the original stopped clicking in less than a year.
>Also, congrats on your first ona.
Was really surprised. Thanks! I didn't think I would be so happy, I want to try the famous cyclist now!
>Dyed fabric
Good to know. Will be careful.

>> No.24074932

just out of curiosity, how long can you expect an onahole to last without powdering it at all?

>> No.24075034

help me bros virgin lolinco extra cannot be found on Jp even with google tranlsate

>> No.24075037

I'm new to these things and after reading the pastebin I'm still in doubts.
Is Venus Real a good starting point?

>> No.24075065

>>24075037
yep! It's a good baseline, after that you can go either tighter or something else.

>> No.24075072

>>24075065
Nice, thanks a lot!

>> No.24075083

>>24074932
Powdering it just keeps the exterior soft (and not sticky) and free of stuff like dirt, lint, and dead skin cells.
And that also depends on the firmness as well. Softer holes are much more susceptible to dirt and stuff while harder holes aren't. powdering is not required, just if you want the exterior to stay nice.

>>24075034
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B082P7V5LP/

>>24075037
It is if you're looking for a "realistic" experience. Either in soft or regular. Soft firmness is like grabbing bundled up socks while regular firmness is more like grabbing the inner part of your thigh.

>> No.24075736
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24075736

>riots are getting worse
>my doll still stuck at the same shipping center for 5 days now
all i wanted was a waifu to fuck
now i get fuck

>> No.24075752

>>24075736
Hand over your doll as reparations white boi!

>> No.24075885

Ugh I knew I should've gotten another Lilith Uterus, being in EU is suffering with how slow MotsuToys restocks and also how ridiculous they're getting with the prices on Tomax holes orz

Also what lubes would be similar to Insomnia thickness and viscosity wise ?

>> No.24076078

>>24075736
tell me about it. been sharing an onahole with this gay faggot for the past few weeks and I'm tired of it. just want my own to be alone.

>> No.24076103

>>24075736
whree did you order from anon

>> No.24076112

>>24076103
amazon.

>> No.24076120

>>24076112
>amazon.

fuck

>> No.24076189

does lube matter bros.

>> No.24076256

>>24076189
Yes. Contrary to popular belief, there are differences to lubes, and make sure you only use water-based lubes. If a lube is too thick for you, you can always add a few drops of water to thin it out.
Insomnia and Silky lube by Tomax are great quality and are fairly thin, but since it is by Tomax, it's also more annoying to obtain. Onatsuyu is thicker.

>> No.24076334
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24076334

So I've got phimosis, and apparently the best way to fix it is to change your masturbation habits in conjunction with the use of a steroid cream to accelerate the stretching. Thing is, I can't get off fapping a normal way.
Is an onahole likely to help?

Also my glans is hypersensitive due to spending 28 years tucked in his little turtleneck, and I'm hoping an ona will help with that too.

>> No.24076419

>>24076256
What's the difference between Silky and Insomnia ?

>> No.24076427

>>24076419
not him but looking aroudn silky has more viscosity and insomnia is move watery.

>> No.24076654
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>>24074580
I picked up the temptation witch and it was actually the last one too. Anybody have any personal experience with it? The reviews seem positive all around.

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24076678

good or no? its free shipping. im not sure if im overpaying alot or not its about $10 difference for the onahole from other sites. couldnt find the lube anywhere though

>> No.24076708

>>24076678
everything besides the onahole is a meme. get the onahole, some shibari lube from amazon, and some corn starch.

>> No.24076786

>>24076654
It'll pretty much last you forever. Somehow, ToysHearts made a tank of an onahole.
In terms of softness its a firm hole (compared to Tomax Soft), but much of its sensation comes from its weight and its chamber at the end. You see, many onaholes have a chamber at the end that acts as a vacuum. You're supposed to squeeze that part of the area, and then insert yourself to get a better feeling. The Witch's chamber is especially big so that means more suck. The internal tunnel feels "scratchy", like a material dragging on your skin.

>> No.24076814

>>24076708
I will still get the baggie because I like keeping something like that from touching the area I'm going to hide my onahole in.

>> No.24077529

>>24076334
You don't really need to masturbate to fix it, just pull on that shit nigga
When I was a kid and my parents found out that I had phimosis they bought some potassium permanganate, had me wash my dick in, pull the skin and wash it again. The phimosis was gone in a couple of weeks, no steroid cream.

>> No.24077657

>>24076678
I'd recommend onatsuyu or insomnia for lube

>> No.24077717

>>24074297
You mean a picture on the package was representing a minor, or the rubber pussy was?

>> No.24077773

anyone else who can't access otonajp european site?

>> No.24077862

>>24077657
I looked at insomnia and they complained it's watery. Not a fan.

>> No.24077883

>>24039252
Holy fuck now this got me worried what's us stance on this. I'm ordering the Lolinco.

>> No.24077902

>>24077862
Insomnia is really really thin. I personally like Onatsuyu

>> No.24077961

>>24077883
you can get onaholes depicting lolis from amazon. nothing is going to happen.

>> No.24078109

>>24077717
The latter.

>> No.24078193

Just ordered my first onahole bros..I hope it's great.

>> No.24078258

>>24078109
What the fuck? Do you mean a regular sleeve or a doll?

>> No.24078281

>>24078258
Sleeve

>> No.24078820

>>24077657
>onatsuyu
stop recommending this trash lube. its sticky, removes all sensation, and dries in about 30 seconds.

>> No.24078836

>>24078820
Are you sure you're not confusing it with pepe's? Because that's how I would describe pepe's

>> No.24078862

>>24078820
it dries up because it leaks out of your onahole bro.

>> No.24079259

>>24078820
Did you know that people's dicks are different? What may work for you doesn't work as well for others and vice-versa.

>> No.24079525

>>24078820
Literally same happens with every lube but insomnia for me, but you can rinse the hole with warm water and get the lube last forever and on top of that you'll get the hole slightly warmer

>> No.24079580

>>24076256
Any thoughts on Sliquid? I've found it to be eh.

>> No.24079639

>>24079580
Never tried it (let alone heard of it) so no, I have no thoughts.

>> No.24079830

>>24079639
It's alright, aloe vera based, tends to dry out and become viscous but not tacky, though it can be reconstituted easily with water. Still, looking for something better.

>> No.24081080
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24081080

Is this really as big a bully as people say? I'm looking for something that will really test my endurance but I don't want to hurt myself either

>> No.24082271

>>24076078
I'm sorry, you need to tell us the details of that right now.

>> No.24082308

How long can I take a break before cleaning my onahole? Like is a 15-30min rest before cleaning acceptable or does it need to be within 10? I've also heard that I apparently needed to wait 10 minutes before cleaning, is there a reason why?

>> No.24082455

>>24082308
Google says it takes about 24-48 hours for mold to grow so I guess you could leave it unwashed for a day as long as you perfectly clean your hole and store it appropriately.

>> No.24082690
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>>24082308
How warm or cold your room is, is also a reason for concern.

Did you cum inside or not?

How much lube did you use?

Is the outside dry or wet?

Did you take a shower beforehand?

Do you have pets and how many?

>> No.24083636

>>24058400
How's the Hon Mono if you have it?
Did anyone get it yet?

>> No.24084105

>>24081080
what is it?

>> No.24084357

>>24084105
Super Hard and Tight Cyclist Girl

>> No.24084640

>>24082271
i know its late but it's pretty much theres this onahole that i can't use alone because the gay faggot owns it and so well if I want to use it I can only use it when he is. it was ok in the beginning but just annoying now

>> No.24084660
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24084660

Got this today. Gonna try it tonight and report later.

>>24065860
Are you me anon? Tell us what you think of it so we can compare results.

>> No.24084728

>>24084640
Wait, hold on, you use the onahole at the same time?

>> No.24084762
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24084762

>>24084660
Also, I think this is getting out of hand, do I need help or I am in the right path?

>> No.24085574

>>24065860
What's the name/link for this one?

>> No.24085614

Does anyone have the handy? What onaholes would you recommend for it? All of mine are too big and they just flop around.

>> No.24085935
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24085935

Got this today.

>> No.24086184

>>24085935
Grats

>> No.24086336

>>24084762
fucking clean and corn starch your holes they look disgusting

>> No.24086341

>>24082690
anyone got a link to this doll?

>> No.24086511

>>24086341
Search gynoid or rzr.

>> No.24086902
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24086902

>>24084640
Are you a mentally challenged fruitcake?

>> No.24086923
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24086923

>>24085935
What is this brand and how much was it in total?

>> No.24086969

>>24084640
You should offer to be his onahole so that you can use his onahole.

>> No.24086979
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24086979

>>24086923
Piper Doll. Model is Akira Big Breast ver. (150cm). It was about $1700.

>> No.24087034

>>24086979
How heavy is she?

>> No.24087187

>>24087034
32kg

>> No.24087457
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24087457

>>24087187
Do you even lift?

Jokes aside how heavy is it for you?

>> No.24087570

>>24084640
Lol

>> No.24087574

>>24070324
the more I've used it....the less I like it
The stimulation is kind of boring and ends up just making me sore now

>> No.24087638
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24087638

>>24074580
I'm not him but which of these would you all recommend the most? I'm looking for a new ona and I'm relatively inexperienced.

>> No.24088418

What's the better choice between Daisyuki Hold and Ubu Virgin?

>> No.24088556

>>24086979
Very nice, how's the overall softness and feel of the skin?

>> No.24088795

>>24084728
yes? i thought that was explained. its a weird clear one so you can see everything.

>> No.24089118

>>24088795
Do your balls touch? It's not gay if your balls don't touch.

>> No.24089268
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24089268

>>24084762
>out of hand,
>only three
small time
this was mostly just an excuse to organize, powder, and find out which ones need to be thrown outIn order of appearance:

Top: Julia+, Muses Kokalo [Rich Soft], Upper Swing by Maccos Japan, Daisyuki Hold, Temptation Witch/Vacuum Witch, My Erotic Maid Servant, Rina Big, Lolinco Virgo, Lolinco Extra Virgin, Fuwa Cyun Triple (Discontinued), Virgin Age Graduation (Discontinued), Lilith Spiral Dots [Very Soft], Hypnotic Tutor Azusa & Umi no Ana #2: Carnivorous Mermaid ny DNA Japan/SSI JapanThe last two are the same hole, just the Azusa is a rebrand based on an eroge instead of a mermaid

Bottom: Fuwa Pocha Torori-Na, Venus Real [Soft], Virgin Matchless/Hymen Musou, The finest Lady Potential, Uterus Okunomiya KoBukuro, Campus Life - Job Hunting (Discontinued), Cock Fit Mokomoko Dot, Armor Maiden Jeanne d'Arc, Tomax Dolphin [Regular], R-20, Mouth of Truth/La Bocca Della Verita, Immature Succubus Black Tsuyudaku Super Hard, Kunoichi [Black Hard], Ona Cannon Mega Burst

My poor Julia+. It's my oldest hole and it shows. It's all contorted, the outside is all beat up, and the sensation is much more mild than it was when it first came out. I'm also sad that I'll probably have to throw away the Graduation as I feel the layers separating and since it's discontinued, the only way I can get another one is if I go to Japan.

I had more, but I threw away ten of them because they were either too small for me or were pretty much ripping apart. This is all built over the course of five years.

>> No.24089392

>>24087638
Not him, but as someone also relatively inexperienced I'd get the Zhang Xiao Yu. But I'd probably also get a cheaper one first to learn how to maintain it properly.

>> No.24089471

>>24087638
If money isn't an issue, then the ZXY.
If money IS an issue, then the R-20 Puni. Just keep in mind of your own measurements since the Puni only has a 12cm/4.7in tunnel.

>> No.24089493

>>24084660
Well it's the first one for me, what I realized is that they are not similar to the real thing, but instead onas seems to be made just to stimulate a lot and in a creative way.
It's nice that it changes quite a bit if you turn it around. I am also pretty surprised by the vacuum succ effect it has if you squeeze it.
Again, it is the first one, so maybe i feel like a kid who got his gameboy with tetris.

>> No.24089516
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24089516

>>24089493
I already feel like I want to try a second cartridge.

>> No.24089627

>>24061990
Thanks Anon, that website looks like it'll help me a lot

>> No.24089648

If I cum too fast with onaholes is it deathgrip or am I just a quickshot...

>> No.24090848
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24090848

Maybe not quite very related to the topic, but regardless.
Even though I've had vr(virtual reality, but also venus real) for quite a while by now and have only tried regular "real" vr porn, this last week I've tried out virtamate.
Since then I've slept about 20-24 hours. In a week. It's very unhealthy but, I just couldn't go to sleep, this is insane. I've never been into anything like this ever in my life.
All I've really been doing was remaking similar scenes to each other and making them very intimate. And it's incredible experience, though feeling like I'm beginning to burn out. Also performance even with a decent pc is lackluster, barely get 60fps depending on scene.
Vr was the best investment I've made in my life as a neet.
There were a few downsides though. I feel very sick, my balls are going to kill me and my dick can't feel anything anymore, even though I could go at it again. I can just simply look at the girls in the game all day long and won't get bored. Could only Imagine what is it like having a 10/10 gf and how exciting that'd be. Very addictive.
Too bad no screenshot or video will ever do it justice, as in the headset sometime it looks indiscernible from reality, truly lifelike, not always though. Future is sort-of-bright? I'd argue, sometimes, it's even better than reality. It's just something that fries my brains when looking at a beautiful girl that's very happy and I just can't stop looking.
Just felt like sharing my excitement with somebody.

>> No.24091316

>EXP:2010003

I have 10 year old lube or how do I read it right?

>> No.24091604

>>24091316
Either it's 2020-10-03, but you've got an extra 0
Or it's 2010-03, and you've still got an extra 0.

>> No.24092242

>>24089268
Impressive collection, which are your favorite? Top 5?

>> No.24092306

Is the ZXY really as good as everyone says? I'm considering getting it but seeing as its more expensive, thats means I'll probably get only the ZXY and maybe a second cheaper one, whereas if I got a cheaper but still better-end one like the erotic maid servant, I would probably end up buying 3 holes total.

>> No.24092479

>>24092242
I'd say my Top 5 in no particular order
>Fuwa Pocha Torori-Na
>Venus Real [Soft]
>Rina Big
>Virgin Age Graduation
>Immature Succubus
The newest ones that I recently bought out pf the bunch are the KoBukuro, Extra Virgin, R-20, Erotic Maid Servant, Ona Cannon, and the Azusa/Carnivorus Mermaid and the ones that I like the most out of the newest batch are the Maid Servant, R-20, and Extra Virgin.

>> No.24092490

>>24089648
Possibly the latter, but that depends on what hole you got. Deathgrip usually comes from people squeezing their dick too hard when using their hand or an inadaquate lubricant like body lotion.

>> No.24092499
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24092499

My lolinco just arrived. The inner grooves are really something else. I felt them when I was cleaning it with my finger afterwards.

This is the point I realized my dick feels almost nothing. It has always been like this...

>> No.24092748

>>24092499
stop beating your dick

>> No.24092872

what's the best hole if you want to feel like you're stuffing and busting a nut in a loli?

>> No.24092923

>>24089268
>Fuwa Cyun Triple (Discontinued)

is it any good? should we feel remorse for not getting it?

>> No.24092987

>>24092923
It's good, not that good to feel remorse missing out on it, however.
It's a penetrating hole, which means its open ended and with how the yellow (hard) part is like, its almost like an anal hole. The blue part is comparable to Tomax Soft, and the pink ipart s like stupid soft. It's rather unique because you get two different experiences depending on where you insert from.

>> No.24093181

Does anyone know similar hips to this? https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/little-hip
I was looking for a hip 100 or under but it seems difficult because most hips either are well over 200 dollars or look nothing like advertised.
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/torso/scaled-replicas/meiki-cherry-evolution
This seemed like the perfect shape but its pretty expensive and out of stock. Any suggestions?

>> No.24093229

>>24090848
Oh man, the last thing to suck me in like that was AA2. I cant begin to imagine how great this must be in VR. I'm glad you're having fun anon. I'm currently saving money to move out and splurge on some earthly desires before I off myself, this is definitely way up the list now.

>> No.24093260

>>24092499
>This is the point I realized my dick feels almost nothing. It has always been like this...
Yeah, that's what circumcision does to your dick. So now you have to deathgrip to feel anything at all, which only makes things worse

>> No.24093373

>>24090848
Is there a good beginner's guide or user friendly version?

>> No.24093379

>>24074932
Not powdering means the exterior will cling to dirt and oils. Do you you really want your dick near something like that?

>> No.24093438

>>24093379
I have phimosis and when I cum I just hold shut my foreskin, waddle over to the toilet and squeeze the cum out like a tube of toothpaste.
I'm not really concerned about dirt/oils on the exterior. My worry is that it won't do its job for long if I don't powder it.

>> No.24094342
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24094342

https://hitomi.la/group/attic%20work%20space-english-1.html

Here is some fap material, so get those onas ready!

>> No.24094553

should i get venus real or lolonco extra virgin for tightness. I wanna feell like im fucking a shortstack

>> No.24094785
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24094785

>>24085935
>>24086979
Was it worth it?
These things:
https://www.elsababe.com/index.php/silicone-dolls/165-dolls
literally motivated me into finding my much better current job before my fall semester starts.

That whole notion of civilizations and lives being brought down for the pursuit of pusy seems slightly more believable.

>> No.24096078

>>24056706
Is that good? Should I save more and buy original?

>> No.24096084

>>24094553
Kind of depends on your shortstack headcanon, personally I don't think they are necessarily tight/loli.

I would suggest Venus Real because you can smash its brains out, EX Virgin is a 10/10 but demands some restraint.

>> No.24096785

Puni Ana Kahanshin came in. Holes are super tight, material and overall shape is fantastic.

Can't hold poses and is overall difficult/frustrating to enter. Has an odd crease that forms in you bend it over for doggy. Worst part is that the box does not have additional art on the inside like the Miracle DX does.

Not worth $400+.

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24097149

>>24087457
Feels much heavier since it's all dead weight. I got the removable vag and am very glad I did. Couldn't imagine lugging this thing into the bathroom to clean it every time I nut.

>>24088556
Piper Doll's TPE is very soft and smooth. Feels good. Just gotta keep it powdered like every other rubber hole.

>>24094785
Honestly I bought it on a whim one night. Are there better things to drop 2k on, yeah. But eh, I'm enjoying it. No ragrets. Personally I'm a fan of Gynoid and Orient dolls, but I don't think I could ever pay 6-10k for one.

>> No.24097246

what exactly does petroleum jelly/Vaseline do to an onahole?

>> No.24097309

>recently released dolls are 40kg

what the fuck

>> No.24097353

>>24097309
Link?

>> No.24097825
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>>24093373
Honestly, went in blind and it was rather intuitive. It's just that there's nearly limitless possibilities to do anything you want, so there're lots of options.
A few days later though, I did look up tutorials/guides. Found one guy on youtube "JustLooking ForNothin" he has guides and tutorials in the playlist on his channel that covers pretty much everything. I've seen he has even exactly what you're looking for, as in something like "Kickstart guide for newcomers" or thereabouts.
>>24090848
I've also tried AA2 and I think honey select some time ago, but on flat screen. Just didn't really get into it for some reason. Even this at first I've tried for an hour or so and it seemed cool, but dumb. Then came back a few hours later, which was rather unusual for me, and the next thing I know I've been there for 30 hours and it felt like a death of pleasure. It's just sad and bad that there's a lot of jank and optimisation leaves a lot to be desired, which seems to be getting addressed relatively soon and also graphics improvements. I'll need to somehow get the new nvidia gpu in 2021, I think it's going to be actually lifelike most of the time at that point.
The best thing is that I can make my fantasy and dreams come true so to say, can make any scene I want and it takes only a few hours, generally more as you fine tune every little detail and try million of things before settling on something but still. And I'm as vanilla as it gets, so it's just so nice and simple.
You can kiss hold hands and hug each other, I don't even know what else would I want.

>> No.24097846

>>24093229
Instead of replying to you, I replied to myself, not sure how'd that happen.
Anyway, the second part of >>24097825 was meant for you.

>> No.24097896

>>24093438
You're not rubbing your dick on the outside, it's really just about how much you can tolerate the accumulating crud and stickiness on the outside. That depends on the specific material of the toy and your environment (i.e. pets = hair everywhere). I rarely powder any of mine, only when one gets unbearably sticky else I just rinse the outside well while I'm cleaning the inside after use. Then it immediately goes back in its bag where it shouldn't be getting dirty between uses.

>> No.24098681

What are some really thick lubes? I can't get Onatsuyu because I'm allergic to it and no one is carrying Honey drops right now so I'm looking for an alternative

>> No.24098793

>>24097246
Depends. If the hole is made out of silicone, the jelly will break it down.

>> No.24098802

>>24098681
Golden Lotion

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>>24084762
closet normie here, i have personally owned about 6+ different holes, you're good.

>> No.24098906

>>24097825
yea but can you make anime girls? i don't care until we make anime real. i need to fuck some botes, bros.

>> No.24098929

Which one is the best : Temptation Witch or Yandere ?

>> No.24098999

>>24098929
Witch because Yandere is fragile which is pretty funny when you think about ut

>> No.24099016

>>24098999
Alright thanks anon, nice trips btw

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>>24098906
You can make literally anything you desire, slimy blob type aliens if you want to.
There're a few anime models for sure, but that's not the focus I think. You can look into honey select/aa, it's certainly more anime focused.

>> No.24099698

>>24096078
It's good, firmer than the regular version. More durable.

>> No.24100136

>>24060884
>>24064294
same anon here
went ahead and bought it
not worth it

>> No.24100176

>>24086336
not that anon but flour will work just fine, right?
Don't got corn starch

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>>24096785
Shit, well post some pics?

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>>24098999
Satan, get off my ceiling you upside down mofo.

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>>24100176
Try it out, Anon.

>> No.24100482

>>24100416
I already did
am I going to regret it?

>> No.24100483

I got a $50 Amazon gift card. What sex toy can I buy with that shit? How expensive are dolls? Any recommendations fellow anons?

>> No.24100499

I cant get hard and get soft inside hole.
Is that DGS?

what should I do to fix it? like fapping too much but cant be bothered to get my ona ready everytime I got craving

>> No.24100514
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>>24100499
Go ride a bike or go for a jog for a week, nofap during this period.

>> No.24100540

>>24100483
Btw I'm 7 inches and can last about 15 minutes with my current one. I don't remember the name of it, anyways I think the insides are fucked I don't feel anything anymore.

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>>24100482
Time will answer.

>> No.24100581

>>24096785
>>24100369
I also want to see it.
There are a disappointing amount of images out there at this moment.
Most I've found is:
https://onahot.com/?p=3528
and
https://twitter.com/otonajp/status/1266229514255740928

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>>24100581
>>24096785
>>24100369
I have a miracle dx from a while back and I regret purchasing it in some ways. It's dual layer so it has the durability of wet tissue paper unless you're comfortable soldering it back together. It feels great and the weight is nice but it just wasn't worth the price and extra work.

From what I can tell the kahanshin is the exact same situation.

>> No.24101866

>>24101656
Seems like EXE are releasing a slew of disappointing Puni Ana products. That's tragic.

>> No.24102957

Has anyone else found a softer, less textured hole actually feels a lot better?

>> No.24102976

Not sure how many own the Chichifueta Rocket here, but do you happen to know what size bra will fit on them? Looking to get a sports bra specifically... Thanks

>> No.24103064

>>24102957
i agree because the softer a hole the more enveloping it feels. theres definitely a limit though. almost every magic eyes product i buy just feels like holding a marshmallow and not in a good way. i cant imagine trying one of their products that arent dual layered.

>> No.24103136

>>24103064
I went back to a R-20 puni with no texture (because I accidentally melted it) and it feels best. I don't know whether other holes are overstimulating and end up feeling bad because of it.

>> No.24103146

Corn starch powder works for powdering your toys, right? I read that talcum powder is bad for you so I opted for the food-grade option.

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>>24100369
>>24100581
I don’t have thigh high clothes or anything for it but let me know what kind of pictures you want and I’ll take them. Anything more explicit I’ll upload somewhere else.

Btw this is what I mean by lacking internal boxart.

>> No.24103265

>>24102957
Yep. Have several soft holes and harder ones and one dual layered.
All I ever use now is venus real rich soft. The rest I just have no desire to ever use, might as well throw away. After years though, I've just noticed that my dick loses sensitivity toward mid/end of session, after like 20-30min, end up feeling stimulation, but not the pleasure/texture.

>> No.24103355
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24103355

>Buy pic related
>makes you cum in less than 10 seconds
I decided to buy a second one of this, used a scissors to cut the bottom of the onahole in half so it can't fully close.

Now I use it to rub the top and back/sides of the penis head and its feels so much more intense and for longer. Seriously I go for 3-5 times in a row with this modification.

>> No.24103392

>>24089268
I don't get the point of buying these many. I have around 6-7 onaholes an I only use 2 of them since the rest are worse than these top 2 I have

>> No.24104490

>>24103355
Who are you quoting?
If you're not quoting anyone, please stop typing in such a retarded fashion.

>> No.24104785

>>24104490
sorry was typiung it while cumming sorry

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>>24103244
Yeah, i see what you mean regarding the box art.

Also just take any kind of pictures and maybe a review on the pros and cons.

I wanted this but i will wait until something new pops up or i just get a doll after my Miracle DX wears out.

Dual layer looks nice and all, but the durability is shit from my own personal findings.

>> No.24105397

>>24103392
I've bought twice as many (as you) and I don't use a lot of them very often, but it seems wasteful to throw them out if they're still usable and I get the desire to try new holes faster than the existing ones wear out. I did just throw away a couple, though, because unlike other Anon I don't feel like buying 20 toy bags.

>> No.24106788

>>24103392
What can I say? I like variety. Plus I do play on retiring some of them since at least 1/4th of them are on their last legs.

>> No.24107327

>>24103392
Onas are a hobby for me at this point, I enjoyed the dick-discovery descent and don't regret owning 10+. Even after TOMAX blessed me with a durable daily driver, there are a lot of S+ tier fragile onas like Extra Virgin for special occasions.

I would probably do more unsolicited ona reviews here, but I get self-conscious having a flowery essay about rubber vaginas, even in a thread dedicated to them.

>> No.24107608

>>24101656
What do you mean soldering? I'm thinking of getting their kiwami hip since I already have a small hip and want a bigger one. Does the vagina detach and come out or something?

>> No.24107628

Is it even safe to order Oneholes on Amazon? They got their specialize delivery service personals taking care of package delivery. Can these guys see whats inside your package on their personal mini computers?

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How's the fuwaguchu VDD?
I got the Tenka Ikketsu as my first ona and I'm looking for a less stimulating hole.

>> No.24107786

>>24097246
I'm no chemist but from what I understand synthetic rubber is made from oil, so when it comes in contact with other oil (petroleum) products chemical shit happens and the rubber either shrinks or swells. Both destroys onaholes

>> No.24107902

Does anyone have the R-18 ? Would like to know if this one is dual layer, hard to tell with the official screens. Thanks.

>> No.24108471
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So that was different. My ona arrived today and I just got to use it, figured I might as well write my experience for whoever might be thinking of buying their first.

I bought the vacuum witch/seducing witch/witch's tempation. I'm a bit big for the ona as it turns out, my head hits the end of it but it's not so bad I think I'll buy a bigger one if I do end up buying one after this. The japanese packaging says 185 mm, that's the box size and Toydemon has it at 6.75" and that's the complete size of the ona not the tunnel. So keep this in mind, I didn't find out until I had already bought it. The USB warmer takes a while to heat up so probably start warming it in advance. The tester lube that I got was a bit sticky and I probably applied too much but it gave me the right lube to stimulation ratio towards the end. This thing sucks, A LOT, as in it is a vacuum around you. For a while I thought maybe I wasn't gonna be able to cum from it but then I got hit with the most intense orgasm since I last had sex. It's definitely not like having sex, but it's better than using my hand. I had trouble pulling this thing off because of how sensitive I was at the time. It took me a bit longer to cum with this than regular masturbation but I think I prefer that, and my nerves were a bit high. Overall, I can see why you guys use these things. Any recommendations that are slightly bigger?

>> No.24108886

>>24107628
I highly doubt anyone at amazon really cares what you order since they go through tons of packages daily. Even if the guy who delivers your package has an idea does it really matter its highly unlikely you see that particular person on a daily basis unless you know someone who works for them.

>> No.24109265

>>24107902
I do have one, but is my first and I just got it few days ago, so I am a newb. I think is single layer tho, like it is made of a single material. I might be wrong since I am not an expert.

>> No.24109341

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/virgin-loop-darrin-seven
today was my first time using an onahole
and I used the virgin loop darrin seven. I don't know how I'll ever go back to using my hand after that. Bros, that was the strongest orgasm I ever had and it made me weak in the legs. Based on that, anyone got some recommendations based on that?

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>>24107608
dual layered onaholes tend to separate the holdable material and the one you rub your dick against. the latter can start to peel off over time and you have to solder it back on if you want to keep it.
on a normal 30 dollar onahole its whatever you can just buy a new one. when its a 500 dollar torso its an entirely different problem.

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>>24108471
>seducing witch
hey mine gets here tomorrow

>> No.24109798

Now that the honeymoon phase has ended for me, I'm pretty annoyed with onaholes. Not with how they feel, they feel great. It's with the fucking clean up. It is, simply put, too tedious. I don't want to be taking 15-20 minutes to properly clean something just so it doesn't get infected with aids.
That's why I haven't used mine in so long (2+ months now).
Now in response to this I'm expecting people to say it doesn't take 15-20 minutes, but 5 minutes or something but I call bullshit on that. It's so goddamn difficult to dry the thing. Reaching all the way to the back of the inside is cumbersome as fuck.
After cumming I want to chill out and relax without worrying about anything, but nope, if I use my onahole I have to go through 20 minutes of hell drying this fucking thing.
God damn what a dumb as fuck downside.
See I'm not a filthy fuck, I don't mind the act of washing it and I can wash it quickly and feel like its sufficiently washed, it's just the drying part which eats up time like nobodies business, if I could just wash it then let it dry itself there would be zero issues.

>> No.24109838

>>24109798
Just fuck it and wash it everyday, and you won't have to worry about drying it out, as long as you keep it somewhere clean in between sessions.

>> No.24109874

>>24109798
>I don't want to be taking 15-20 minutes to properly clean something just so it doesn't get infected with aids.
nigga what the fuck kind of medical bullshit are you doing. just clean it and shove a microfiber towel inside of it. it takes 1-2 minutes max.

>> No.24110196

>>24109798
Same. I also have to wipe down everything the hole touches because it's been months and the fucking thing is still oily as fuck. I have Stockholm syndrome or something for magiceyes

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>>24109798
Best thing you could do is using a couple dry sticks or sewing microfiber fingers. It's not hard, bro

>> No.24110745

>>24109798
could just roll up a piece of a paper towel n shove it in to the back n pull it out, saves time, dries it out, and easier for me since i cant use a micro fiber towel since everything in my house is caked in fucking dog hair. takes literally 2-3 min including washing it

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I don't like anything else so far. I've tried a fair amount too. Haven't tried hips though. This recent one, which lasted pretty damn long, when it started to go through the 'break in' phase, developed the tearing which made it look like I was pushing my dick through the abdomen which was visually hot as heck. I really like how after multiple uses, it starts to change and for lack of words to describe it, it is reformed to your dick, like all those whores say in eroge, hmanga, etc, after getting healthy dose of the D.

>> No.24111044

Can anything be done to amend hardening of outer silicone and also abrasion on toys? On the latter I don't mean tears or cuts, but small patterns of scratches or abrasion from friction.

>> No.24111070 [DELETED] 

i cant believe pekoras happy family has been tragically ripped apart

>> No.24111110

>>24111036
i dont fuck with magic eyes products. theyre super vulnerable to mold and arent that great.

>> No.24111596

>>24092499
>>24093260
>worried that I'm heading down this path too
Is there a way to prevent this? I don't want to get to a point where I just don't feel anything.

>> No.24112243

>>24109798
Takes me 2-3 minutes tops, for the whole procedure.
I use old t-shirt and a thin long screwdriver. Takes me two insertions of the cloth to get it dry. Once I insert, I gently tap the hole from outside, so that it makes the contact with the cloth.
I mean I don't even know what kind of acrobatic tasks you could perform there for 20minutes, surely you must be using a 20kg hip or maybe even a doll, then maybe I could understand your ''frustration'' here.

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>>24112243
>surely you must be using a 20kg hip or maybe even a doll, then maybe I could understand your ''frustration'' here.
i couldn't. just use some fucking oral swabs like a normal person

>> No.24112331

Can I use superglue to fix small rips on the entrance?

>> No.24112366

>>24112331
If you want it scratching you every time you use it sure. The best way would be to learn how to use a soldering iron and have extra TPE to melt in a ventilated area to fix the rips

>> No.24112564

>>24111110
Well that's what happens when you don't clean.

>> No.24112624

>>24112366
All right, thanks. It's a small rip so I don't think I need to use any TPE.

>> No.24113027

I've heard about OtonaJP being absolute garbage, what about OtonaJP EU? Are they just as bad? I order my last onas from onaholesandmore but it seems they died for good...

>> No.24113660

>>24113027
OtonaJP EU is just OtonaJP that ships to Germany and then forwards the package from there to you. The only thing that's different is that you get an extra week of delay.

>> No.24114209

>>24113660
so if I live in Germany and they have it shown as stocked, it's not going to be stuck in JP? Trustpilot also doesn't look as bad anymore. Onatsuyu or Peepee original?

>> No.24114245

>>24114209
Yes, but thy have almost nothing stocked. Most things are "ships in 2 weeks", which means they'll have to get it from japan first.

>> No.24114892

>>24111596
I ordered that Manhood foreskin substitute and some Man1 Man Oil and will get them in the mail by June 10th. I'll let /ona/ know the results in a month. Right now I'm rubbing CeraVe on my dick in the meantime and am noticing *some* results, but its only been 4-5 days since I've been doing that.

>> No.24116952

>>24100543
so apart from the outside being a little chalky there wasn't much issue at first
then I noticed the real issue once I started using it
the flour was coming off almost in groups and stuck to hands a bit
But I use my onahole in the shower so dealing with that was no big deal and I think that's all that has to be dealt with
I assume that doesn't happen with corn starch?

>> No.24116990

>>24116952
>I use my onahole in the shower
Why bother powdering it then?

>> No.24117051

>>24116990
it still gets pretty sticky once it dries

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>>24117051
Only powder when it is supposed to stay dry for storage or cuddling/dressing up to prevent it getting too dirty.

Use cornstarch when you have the time to get it.

>> No.24117915

>>24109798
What hole? I have 5 holes and 1 hip and the only one that is challenging to clean and dry is Lolinco Virgo because I have baby hands
I use rolled paper towels for drying them

>> No.24117967

>>24109466
So would you recommend a single layer hip then? I have PuniAna DX and the tunnel is pretty boring, is that common for single layer hips?

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>>24117967
Actually, all hips at 5kg and over seem to be dual layer

>> No.24118569

>>24109265
Alright thanks, usually you can determine it's dual layer if the inner color is different from the exterior.

>> No.24119698

The cleavage area of my boob toy is a bit scuffed. Lack of lube I think. Is there any way to smoothen or repair the surface?

>> No.24120545

Onatsuyu or Honki-Jiru ? looking for something that's not viscous/thick

>> No.24120576

>>24109798
https://www.amazon.com/Lakeside-Collection-Set-Duster-Sticks/dp/B078MT6WYS/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=microfiber+stick+duster&qid=1591474160&s=hpc&sr=1-4

Use these to dry the inside out. A quick dab of soap and your fingers for the inside, dry the outside, and use the microfiber stick to quickly dry out the inside. In all you'l be spending like 5 minutes tops to clean, dry, and powder the onahole.

>> No.24120629

>>24120545
As I have both right now, Honki-Jiru is definietely thicker & stickier than Onatsuyu. Although if you're looking for something thin & watery, you can get Insonmia/Silky from Tomax or Shibari.

>> No.24121028

>>24108471
Total length obviously correlates with tunnel length unless you're looking at certain holes like Tomax's Muses line, where the tunnel only goes halfway through the material for some god-awful reason. Bottoming out is fine as long as you're not ramming the back too hard/early, preferable to being too short and not getting to feel the deepest tunnel features IMO.

Anyway, Witch is 150mm internally... which I'm pretty sure is also on the box but if not, it's on TH's website. (And the complementary Moisty is a shitty lube but I digress.) Most holes sit around 130-140, though there are plenty of similarly sized ones too. Actually larger, all that comes to mind off the top of my head are the original R-20 and Momoiro Triple.

>> No.24121908

So the holes i'm seeing mentioned the most here are the Lilith uterus, KoBukuro uterus, hard and tight cyclist girl, the ZXY, witch's temptation and erotic maid servant. If i'm on a budget of 100 USD, what would you recommend I get out of these?

>> No.24122043

>>24121908
Cyclist girl is not a good first choice
I'd go with ZXY

>> No.24122228

>>24121908
For $100 I'd recommend the Toys Heart R-20 (will last forever), a soft ona from Ride Japan (cheap and similar material to EXE soft). Maccos Full Swing or the Puni Ana DX clone as a third ona. They are also very durable.

>> No.24122751

So I'm interested in getting one of these. After reading the guide, the store that seems the easiest to use and that actually ships to my shithole is OtonaJP.
The OP says that I shouldn't buy from there, but in the guide, all it says is that they take forever to ship. Is there any other reason why I shouldn't buy from there?

>> No.24122763

>>24122751
Guide is old. OtonaJP is a scam. Kanojo ships everywhere too, just buy it from them if you can't use AmazonJP

>> No.24122773

>>24121028
I hit the end of the tunnel and the only way I can get it all the way down is by stretching it down. Ideally I want something where I can just about get to the end of the tunnel/womb area. But I'm in a bit of an awkward size range I guess. I'll check out the ones you mentioned.

>> No.24122785

>>24122763
>kanojotoys(Japan)
>Markup, EMS and a horrendous website.
Then should I just completely ignore all the shit I just read in the guide?

>> No.24122795

>>24122751
EMS doesn't work right now so there's no point in ordering until they resume deliveries
OtonaJP never refund, even if they mess up the delivery destination, the post loses your package/customs seizes it for whatever reason or the item you've bought from them isn't available anymore (usually expensive stuff).

>> No.24122845

I'm new to onaholes, I'm just wondering if it's safe to clean them with dish soap since every store has run out of hand soap.

>> No.24122873

>>24122785
Otona also uses EMS. I assume you can't use DHL or FedEx because of your shipping remark so it makes no difference.

>> No.24122878

>>24122785
Kanojo is close to the same price as OtonaJP but you'll at least get the product. Cheapest is always Amazon or AmazonJP.

>> No.24122892

>>24122845
Yeah it's fine. Been using it for almost a year now with no issues with over a dozen different material onas. I dilute it so that it's not so concentrated. Can also just use less than you would regular hand soap. Make sure to rinse well.

>> No.24122919

>>24122763
>>24122873
>>24122878
It turns out Amazon jp actually does ships this stuff to my country. It's kinda funny because they don't ship games, books, figures or electronics.

>> No.24122933

>>24122919
Really? Seems odd they'd not sell the other stuff. Make sure the items say 'order fulfilled by Amazon'.

>> No.24123004

>>24122933
It does says fulfilled by amazon, so I'll buy there. Thanks

>> No.24123028

>>24123004
No worries. It's 2 day shipping too, so enjoy getting your stuff on Monday/Tuesday depending on what timezone you're in.

>> No.24123075
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Guys i have a question, what is the difference between water based anal lube and water based normal lube?

>> No.24123099

>>24123075
Probably nothing. It's water based, either add water or let it evaporate a little if you want a different consistency.

>> No.24123105

>>24118569
Ah I see, well it looks all the same pink both in and out. I would really say single.

>> No.24123473

>first hole arrives Monday
How long should I refrain from jerking off to make sure it feels as good as possible? I've held off the past couple days, but was thinking at least a week
I got a lolinco virgo if that matters. I know it isn't recommended as a first hole but I couldn't help myself.

>> No.24123514

>>24123473
Don't refrain. If you want it to feel as good as possible then warm it up before use. It's a great first hole if you're average sized. Only the tiny asians complain about it.

>> No.24123558

>>24120629
I don't think I can get Insomnia in EU as it's constantly out of stock, think I'm gonna try Shibari then, hopefully it will help with my Venus Clone as Tyō was disappointing, way too viscous for me

>> No.24123601

>>24123514
I got an onahole warmer to go with it so I'm set there.
I'm right around 13 centimeters sadly, though there would probably be a bit more if I lose weight. I'll take care of that when I go back to college.

>> No.24123604

>>24121908
Would suggest Lilith Uterus in Soft, pretty robust yet soft enough to have a middle ground in term of stimulation assuming you're not desensitized

>> No.24124847

https://a.cockfile.com/bMCu1s_breastnology.webm
curious to know where I could buy something like this

>> No.24124963
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