/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How does it make you feel to know that, a little more than sixty years ago, many of our grandfathers could have won medals for killing the Japanese man?

And that now, here we are?

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to kill a japanese myself

[Anonymous No.]

This is now a doujin discussion thread

[Anonymous No.]

I wouldn't mind killing a Japanese person.

[Giant Wolf of Darkness !wolfnfNw7k No.]

It feels good, the world is one step away from achieving world peace.

[ZUN !3GqYIJ3Obs No.]

The fact that Japan has conquered america in terms of culture has not been realized by many

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Best part about japan is Kaga Ai

[Anonymous No.]

My family fought on both sides of the war.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>2402967

You wish, weeaboo

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>Japan has conquered america in terms of culture

I don't think so, ZUN.

[Anonymous No.]

My grandfather was Japanese.

I'm not sure what kind of medals he could have won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2402941
>How does it make you feel
Really fucking jealous?

[Anonymous No.]

>won medals for killing the Japanese
they were living the dream

[Anonymous No.]

Britfag here so my grandparents were busy dealing with the real threat.

and losing tell america showed up amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403034
Lol. Stupid bitter britfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403034
The Russians did most of your work for you. Don't forget that. And you didn't do shit for real until the Americans showed up to bail you out, anyway.

Lol, Dunkirk

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>>2403062
The Russians were also communist scum who seemed to think that by equipping a squad with a single rifle they had a right to claim they lost more soldiers than any other of the allied armies.
Did I mention they were absolute scumbags?

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>>2403082
Every single nation that had a major role in WWII sucked. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403082
>equipping a squad with a single rifle

Umm, no. Learn your history from books and not from Enemy At The Gates for once in your life.

The bottom line is, it was the Soviets that basically stopped the Third Reich in its tracks before the Western Front even opened up. If the Soviets hadn't won at Stalingrad and Kursk, fuck, there might not even have *been* a Western Front. Which means *you* would have been shit out of luck.

As for the barbarism thing, perhaps you'd do the same if the Nazi war machine raped and pillaged *your* homeland for a few years, too.

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>>2403097
I forget, didn't Russia produce a shit load of tanks?

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>>2403119
Who gave them the materials to manufacture them? I'll give you a hint. One is in the western hemisphere and the other is an island nation in Europe.

[Anonymous No.]

I for one, would have welcomed our loli Nazi overlords.

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>>2403005
No, really. My great-grandmother was Japanese who naturalized and lived in Hawaii; her husband fought on the Allied side, and she had brothers who served in the Japanese military.

If you want to know something even more unbelievable, my grandmother used to play with George Takei (Sulu from Star Trek) while they were in the internment camps as kids.

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>>2403137

YHBT

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>>2403082

No. It was a rifle for every 2 men.

>>2403097

Winter and German being unprepared for it was also a huge factor.

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>>2403149
what the hell

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>>2402957
>>Japan has conquered america in terms of culture

the fuck does that even mean?

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>>2403182
Culture is usually synonymous with "Sucking at war"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403182

Even though thats not true you fail for being too dumb to understand.

>>2403191

0/10

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>>2403119
Yes. Not only did their tanks outnumber the Germans by an obnoxious factor, but the T-34 is also considered by many to have been the best overall tank in the war. It was designed by an American though, and the US also supplied them with a fair amount of Shermans.

In reality, the situation was never that desperate for the Russians. At least not how Hollywood depicts it. They were definitely hit hard, but their armor already outnumbered Germany's 6:1 *before* Barbarossa was launched. And once they went into full wartime production: forget about it. The Soviets would have eventually crushed Hitler even without a second front. It makes me wonder why we Americans even had to get off our asses in the first place. I would have preferred to see the Slavs bleed themselves out more instead of sacrificing our boys for Europe's bullshit.

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403182
The cartoons on your TV. The food you eat. Those consoles you own. Business practices.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/culture

>>2403191
What? Culture is often spread through war and conquest. You know all that Rome stuff you failed to learn about in high school?

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>>2403062

That's cause we wanted Communism and Nazism to destroy each other.

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>>2403214
And that's the way it might have went if FDR wasn't a Communist-loving sack of shit.

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>>2402957
>Japan has conquered America in terms of culture
What? Some outlying weeaboo faggots does not equal being conquered. America has however conquered Japan in terms of culture, nearly every aspect of Japanese life has been penetrated and westernized.

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>>2403205

We needed to stamp our presence in Europe. Otherwise pretty much all of Europe would have been communist.

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>>2402941
My grandfather did win a medal for killing the Japs.

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403217
Haha, no. Stalin would have crushed the axis regardless of US involvement in the war. For all your boasting and claiming credit, you guys didn't really do anything important outside of the pacific theatre.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2403221

>some outlying weeaboo faggots

Anime on the Cartoon Network, cons across the nation, and the companies that dub and produce Japanese cartoon movies for the public would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous No.]

that SZS episode with the japanese soldier returning home summed up japan's unjapanese culture quite well

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403221

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>>2403227
thats called shit, not culture

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>2403235
Super Nintendo looked way better in europe and asia.

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>>2403227
please bitch. japanese animation wouldn't even exist if it hadn't been for Walt Disney. The AMERICAN dude.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2403238

Shit that the tweens of America are eating up and loudly asking for more.

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>>2403235
That is a materialization of western culture in japan, not the other way around.

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403244
European SNES was definitely the best one. I would have posted that, but too many Americans on here would have been all "hurr what is that".

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>>2403247
hmm...

dregs of society matter? no way

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[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403251
What.

[(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ No.]

>>2403255
The tweens are the future of society, not the dregs. You are the dregs, anonymous.

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>>2403257
Videogames were invented here, right?

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>>2403097
>>2403205
Dude.
If Russia would let the allied forces land in Eastern Europe ,the war would end MUCH sooner.
But commies didn't want to let americans and brits see how they "freed" countries taken by nazis.

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>>2403260
don't hurt me like that, bro ;_;

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>>2403263
The modern computer was technically invented by Alan Turing. Does that make the computer you're using right now a materialisation of British culture?

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>>2402941
> How does it make you feel to know that, a little more than sixty years ago, many of our grandfathers could have won medals for killing the Japanese man?
They did? I thought they were busy dying from hunger while Germany was raping the country.

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>>2403205
>I would have preferred to see the Slavs bleed themselves out more instead of sacrificing our boys for Europe's bullshit.

Maybe the war would end if UK and France did not pussy out when Germany suddenly started to conquer new territories they swore to protect.

[Anonymous No.]

How does it make you feel to know that, any thread mentioning WWII turns into a flame war?

And that now, here we are?

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>>2403284
A little bit. Cultural influences are all varible.

Before the kanegawa treaty in the 1820's, Japanese culture was stagnat. You seem to be a fairly intellegent person, so I'll assume you know all this.

However, if you are defending the claim that America and western culture is threated by japanese culture, you are horribly mistaken. Japanese cartoons and videogames have been gaining popularity in America, but it has little actual cultural influence. People regard them as mere media preferences and nothing more. However, few Japanese cinema actually take a progressive position on ethical values. There is no significant piece of japanese culture that has made a lasting impact on western values. I have yet to see a theme from an anime depict a ideal that western culture hasn't already done.

Contrary to this, hollywood (although I deny the positivity of their social change) has had vast impact on western ethics. New anime like eden of the east seems to take progressive stance on modern issues, but only after the follow of hollywood. Japan has had some cultural influence in America, but it is small compared to an actual cultural takeover.

[Anonymous No.]

Protip: America has no culture.

European culture is by FAR the most dominant ANYWHERE in the world. Suck it, yanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403619
Enjoy your culture of paranoia and CCTVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403619
you've already been americanized, you just dont realize it yet

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this, go watch a Japanese playthrough of CoD5 at Nico, fucking hilarious:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5281158
This tag to get at the other ones: 駄目クマ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2403645
Impossible. American culture is but a cheap bastardization of European culture.

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>>2402967

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>>2402954
Feels good man.

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>>2403653
i lol'd

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>>2403619
Wrong. In the media age, media culture is the most significant and is ruled by amerikkans, there is no doubt about it. amerikkan live action series and hollyshit movies are shown around the globe, and the video game market is dominated by US published titles since the xbox era.
Japanese media are almost non existent in Europe in comparison to their influence in the US, on the other hand japanese video games lost ground to those generic xbox action titles because of the higher budgets of the games and gfx worship of underage cancerfags.
This is reality dude, stop living in delusions. The only japense fortress that still exists is the handheld market, though I don't think this market will have much future in the west. With this gen consoles becoming cheaper in the next three years casual gamers and pre-teens will get those and not handhelds anymore. Casual gamers, pre-teens, females ( most of them lose their interest in gaming) are the target audience in the west, and of course the still existing niché fanboy group.

It's no suprise that the pentagon and related institutions spend billion of $ every year for influence in media culture. You won't find any major title that doesn't have the approval of those channels.
This is why many amerikkan video games of today are nothing else than war propaganda were you fight LOL TERRORIST in the middle-east.
And don't forget all those crime series ...

[Anonymous No.]

I feel nothing because I don't give a shit about something that happened over 60 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

White power fags in my internet? More likely than you think!

[Anonymous No.]

Amercians are huge consumers of entertainment. Since Generation X we've added anime and some manga to our entertainment portfolio. That's all. If you stupid weaboos want to to make an issue out of it for the sake of one of your racism threads, then by all means.

[Anonymous No.]

WAR IS OVER

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>>2403205
They could have gotten the Germans out of Russia, they couldn't have gotten to Berlin.

[Anonymous No.]

haile hilter

[Anonymous No.]

The US is better than Japan. Any non-weeaboo already knows this. Stop with the shit threads.

[Anonymous No.]

If only America had joined the Axis, the world would be a much better place.

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>>2405317
I blame it on the jews.

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>>2405317
agreed, for all intensive porpoises hitler was ftw

[Anonymous No.]

My dad, God bless him, is an 85-year old Iwo Jima Marine. He started out a private in WWII. He made island assaults on Iwo, Guam, Tarawa, and Okinawa. We were talking about Iwo twenty years ago—one of the rare times he did—and I asked him what wave he was on. “The 5th wave,” he answered reluctantly. I asked, “Dad, the fifth wave? So you missed the battle?” His answer gave me a rude awakening on real war. He mustered a cynical smile and quipped back, “What the hell is wrong with you? The first four waves died before they ever got off the beach. If I was on them you wouldn’t be here.”

My dad went from private to Marine First Sergeant and Master Gunnery First Sergeant—the highest enlisted pay grade in the USMC in World War II. He did it with sweat, and blood, and because he was lucky enough to out-survive his superiors. Americans have forgotten about sacrifice, Afghan Mujahadeen have not. Twenty years later, last month, I was talking about how the Taliban were back in the government and how the military was being restrained from fighting them. His latest response was no less than straight forward, “Marines had a saying in WWII; the only good Jap is a dead Jap. War is war; it ain’t a damn line dance.” He was on the first landing into Tokyo. The Japs bowed.

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>>2405432

although I agree with you that Americans have forgotten sacrifice and know nothing of the realities of war that our sodiers go throught, you really can't compare the current military actions of the U.S. to WWII, they are two completely different wars with completely different motivations.

Now, comparing what the U.S. is doing in the middle east to what we were doing in Vietnam would be far more accurate.

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>>2405432
I realize that's copypasta but whoever told that first is an ignorant cunt. Iwo Jima was so fucking small the whole island was a fire zone for much of the fighting. The first four waves dying is also complete bull. Heavy losses yes, but not all dead. Whole story is structured like one of those made-up modern gotcha morality tales christfags like to recite. This propaganda piece sickens me even more for trying to justify killing everybody on sight. Iwo Jima was a straight-up fight between armed forces with no civilians in between. But how the fuck do you tell apart an insurgent from a civilian?. Kill em all and let God sort out the innocents, eh? Jesus wept...

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>>2404731

That blonde is too thin to be amerikan

[Anonymous No.]

Too bad it was America who was sticking their cock into everything that caused the japanese to attack pearl harbor.

[Anonymous No.]

How were the Nazis hated then and even now? Did anyone look at who they were killing off? Pretty much everything that people hate now: homos, mormons, jews, retards, ect.

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>>2405317
FTW

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>>2405317
If not for the leftover WW1 propaganda and the money invested in the brits and chinks, the average american person was much closer to the germans. kkkaaaay!

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>>2405952
Mormons? In Germany?
Wut

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2405943
>HURR
>DURR

>HURR DURR

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>>2405981
Jehovah's Witnesses were killed by the nazis I beleive. I think those are mormons but fuck im not gonna research them lol.

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>>2405987
No, he's right. Read some Washington and Jefferson quotes and then compare those words to what the United States' government was doing before Dec. 7 1941. FDR was a scumbag who was more loyal to defending British imperial interests than his own electorate, and sacrificed American lives to get us involved with a strictly European and Asian problem. The fact that Japan struck first doesn't make a difference as far as the big picture goes. America had chosen sides long before that Sunday morning.

People just can't accept it because it we were supposed to be the "good guys," as if such a thing exists in war.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2406044
In World War II, there was a clear distinction between who the "bad guys" were and who "everyone else" was. The only touchy issue was the Soviet Union, but a certain general didn't get his wish when he wanted to invade the Soviet Union and smash it to pieces.

Also, the summary of your argument has not progressed beyond "DURRHURR," so not much more can be said.

[Anonymous No.]

like i saw saving private ryan when i was 8 and man they showed those fucking japs on the beachs whos boss and at the ending like jesus came flying in on a white horse and blew up that evil tank

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>>2406058
Propaganda taste gooooooood

[Anonymous No.]

WW1: after the war the countries showed that most of the propaganda was BS.

WW2: after the war the propaganda got worse.

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>>2406058
HURR DUUR U MAD?

[Anonymous No.]

FDR made the Depression in USA worse and longer, only war as he acknowledged saved him economically. He seriously underestimated Communism and the Soviets, fortunately Truman did not or else many of us would not be free today. He undermined the US Constitution and restricted liberty. As Goldberg 's "Liberal Fascism" shows FDR was closer to Mussolini than to democracy, and he had little love for Jews or Blacks, not helping the former in Germany under Hitler nor his own Negroes back home.
This "history" continues the monumental distortion of the truth under FDR. We are about to suffer the same with Nobama.

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>>2406074
Yeah theres more evidence that all the nazis burned was the clothing to keep the lice from spreading typhus than there is for them burning them alive 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

I hate countries like America and Japan who think they can do no evil. Fucking grow some balls and admit you are sick bastards.

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>>2406058
My point is that the United States would not have been attacked if it was truly neutral. On the morning of December 7th, we were already an Allied power for all intents and purposes. We had drawn a line in the sand over Indochina (which contained the fuel that Japan was seeking) while embargoing them at the same time. If that isn't "sticking their cock into everything" then I don't know what is. The fact of the matter is that war was the only option left for Japan, which now sought to pre-empt the inevitable American intervention by knocking out our Pacific fleet. If we had stayed out of the mater entirely, the issue would have never arisen and no attack would have taken place. It was not a beligerent move on the part of the Japanese, but rather a desperate one.

And no armed force that deliberately targets civilians can be called "good guys." In World War II this was standard practice on all sides. I'm sure the old women who drowned/burned to death in molten asphalt on the streets of Dresden wouldn't have very kind things to say about their American saviors.

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>>2406124
Thank god at least one anon gets it.

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>>2406044
Jefferson and Washington were both proponents of isolationism, yes, but that was back in the past when the US didn't have the amount of foreign interests that it did in the 20th century. I have my qualms with FDR too, but I still think the US made the right decision from both a political and moral standpoint.

But yes, American neutrality was questionable at best and the attack on Pearl Harbor was a justified act on the part of the Japanese. Or it would've been if a formal declaration of war was issued first. Although if I recall correctly, the declaration would've been in our hands couple hours before hand if we hadn't made a point of snubbing the Japanese ambassador. And there is, of course, reason to believe that Navy had at least some vague knowledge of the impending attack anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

My gramps had a confirmed kill in the Pacific theatre.

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>>2406139
It's still a very emotionally-charged issue for most people, and I think that's the problem. Not everybody is a flag waving impressionable hick, but the imagery is still burned into society's memory. We fought men in black uniforms with skulls on their caps after all. But enough historical study combined with a traditional noninterventionist outlook on foreign policy will show that our involvement, despite all of its illusions of glory, was tragically unnecessary and hurt a lot of innocent people. More importantly, it gave birth to the paranoid Cold War mindset that has set us off track to this very day.

I hope that once the generation that fought the war finally passes on, we'll be able to look at it more objectively.

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>>2406141
Ah. So you're using Yunos as well? Not that there's anything wrong with that; I don't have a tripcode for a reason, but it could make things confusing.

Anyway, you're right about foreign interests, but I'd argue those were precisely the problem. Our nation was never meant to be an empire, and once you start having to hold on to overseas territory, things get tricky.

[Anonymous No.]

There should be a board where image uploads are forbidden and all pictures are random images from Danbooru.

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>>2406190
Sorry, I realized my mistake too late. I saw an opportunity to post Yuno and leapt on it without thinking. I guess Miyako would've been the better choice.

[None !Mystia3.V2 No.]

>>2402962
Much agreed.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I'd much better off if I had never discovered anime, or if I'd stayed like I was when I first encountered it... That is, distasteful "how dare those creepy weird japs peddle their shit over here".

God, I would have been so cool...

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>>2406208
Can't do that, the boards quality would rise too much. Unless half of all the images happened to be baw.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

ITT America shits on her allies

Ergo, CHINA NEW EMPIRE