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/blog/ - BL + Otome Games #216

http://www.cool-b.jp/calendar.php

https://www.4gamer.net/script/search/index.php?mode=schedule&JOSHIBU

FAQ & Resources:
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>> No.23996957

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=uQf8w-j1z9I

8.10.2020

>> No.23999106
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Let's remember this fan favorite kusoge. Let's remember how the senseis were cut out of it and not even their seiyuu were hired. Let's remember how Ai took over half of Natsuki's route and Natsuki had a breakdown. Let's remember how every other line from Ranmaru was screaming. Let's remember how a random whore tried to break Ren and Haruka up for no reason. Let's remember that weird plot about Camus's queen mind controlling Haruka and no one except Cecil being able to tell. Let's remember Otoya and Tokiya writing love letters to each other and Natsuki and Syo holding hands and crying about how much they need each other while Haruka never has another line of dialogue again. Some of the fandisk routes were arguably just as bad and the music is still some of the best in the series

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RIP.

>> No.23999476

>>23999106
Making them QUARTET NIGHT really did save their hides.

>> No.24000648

Finished the first Tachibana good end in Pigeon Blood. Best route several times over. No shaman guy as an excuse to deliver exposition we already know, major characters actually die so there's stakes, feels like the only route where the blackmail, oni and romance plots actually all fit together well rather than just being randomly smashed together, very little boring mystery solving shit, oni-Kazuki's antics were extremely entertaining in general after all the shit I've seen him get put through so far. Also ossan Tachibana was hot.

I feel like the other ending will be real disappointing after this.

>> No.24001780

>>24000648
The other ending is more realistic so yeah, but it's still pretty satisfying.

>> No.24001852

>>23996913
previous thread, yo
>>23891971

>> No.24002518

>>23999106
>how every other line from Ranmaru was screaming
No wonder it's a kusoge. That summary sounds messed up.

>> No.24002568

>>24001780
What do you mean taking over the world thanks to your demon boyfriend who you feed the eyeballs of your enemies to isn't realistic?

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>>23999106
>Let's remember Otoya and Tokiya writing love letters to each other and Natsuki and Syo holding hands and crying about how much they need each other while Haruka never has another line of dialogue again
But that's the best part!
Then again if I paid to get to romance a someone and got NTR'd I'll also be mad.

>> No.24003690

>>23999337
at least it's getting offline service

>> No.24003915 [DELETED] 

For the first time 5* male servants outnumber the female, seems like TM has finally realized the potential of fujobucks.

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For the first time 5* male servants outnumber the female, seems like TM has finally realized the potential of fujobucks.yumejoshis still only get barebones pandering I get that yariyumi is the backbone of this franchise just like saberfaces but give us something goddamit

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>>24003956
The valentine event is nothing but husbando/waifufag pandering, and there's so much of it, it takes up the entire pandering budget for the year.
Also I just realized FGO probably has the most oyajis out of any mobage out there. Thank you, jewlight works.

>> No.24007842

finished fashioning little miss lonesome. it was meh. too comedic, at least theres little femdom and the threesome is decent.
threesome and polyamory relationship is kinda rare huh.

>> No.24008661

>>24003956
I wonder how often fujos and shotacons intersect, not that I'm complaining. Cutest space satellite.

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Another one bites the dust. Offline service will be avaliable.

>> No.24009098

>>24008663
Haven’t they announced the end of it last year already?

>> No.24009172

>>24009098
Yaeh, they announced it ages ago. Their new game is pretty shit too, so I don't expect that to last long either.

>> No.24009594

>>24008663
Anyone knows what will happen to the gacha in the offline service? Will all cards automatically become available?

>> No.24010918

>>24003956
>shota servant
disgusting

>> No.24012170

>>24009172
They have a new game? I only know of A3 and that seems to be doing well enough.

>> No.24012239

>>24009594
Gacha will die and no.

>> No.24013152

>>24012170
They made a new Aichuu game and then killed of the old one.

>> No.24013498

>>24008663
Why do people support mobage again?

>> No.24013635

>>24013498
Entertainment value. It's like asking why humans need to eat when we will die eventually anyway.

>> No.24013646

>>24013498
Same reason people support casinos. Gambling is "fun" to many and the company extracting your money makes it even more fun, sometimes downright addicting. And since most people won't spend more than a few dollars, it's the addicts ("whales") that keep those shitty Skinner boxes afloat. I think something like less than 5% of the playerbase needs to whale to keep most games operational, but don't quote that statistic.

What gets me is most of the mobage out there don't have anything to distinguish them from each other. Every single time an idol gacha dies 10 more replace it with the same designs and themes.

>> No.24013712

>>24013498
If you ever become a husbando/waifufag, you'll understand

>> No.24014099

>>24008661
I feel like there are more shotas in otome than BL games but I'm not sure. BL games seem to only have shotas if MC tops which is already a minority of games, only exeption I've played is Paradise where the shota-ish character (technically a babyfaced manlet but then most shota characters are anyway) tops MC.

>> No.24014467

>>24013498
Continous story, not just one game + fandisc.

>> No.24014654

>>24012239
Do mobages with offlne versions normally do that?The only one that I know of is Aozora under,and due to that my interest in the game has been killed since I couldn't really "progress".

>> No.24014764

>>24014654
Not someone who's built a gacha game but there are likely technical reasons why. Gachas communicate to a remote server to determine what is rolled by the player. They'd specifically have to design and implement a solution to generate rolls without that communication, and why would they invest resources in a game that's being shut down for lack of profit?

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>>24013498
>>24014467
This. In a mobile game your husbando is bound to get more content over time in story events and depending on the game he could also get pandering valentine's lines or a lewd summer alt, that sort of stuff.

>> No.24015948

>>24014764
I understand that you dont't waste resources on a dead game,but gacha is such an intergral part of some of these games that once you take it out it becomes a lot less interesting and fulfilling since there's not much to do besides reading the story.Or maybe it's just due to me never experiencing it when it was still online,so I didn't really have anything to compare it to.

>> No.24016000

>>24015948
This might sound elitist, but play a console/PC game if you want a fulfilling experience. If the gambling mechanism was the only thing holding the game together it was probably shit in the first place.

There are plenty of great boys out there in games that don't try to bleed you dry.

>> No.24016108

>>24015844
You don't even get real h content you goddamn addict, you ought use your roll money to commission pinups of him stuffed with one of them tail butt plugs instead.

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Announcements moved to June. So sad.

>> No.24018793
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Are there any VAs you can't stand voice-vise? Kakihara Tetsuya and Showtaro Morikubo's voices are pissing me off to the point I'd rather play with voices off

>> No.24018877

>>24018793
>Kakihara Tetsuya
I can only ever hear him as the shota from Jooubachi and it reminds me of that game and makes me laugh every time.

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>>24007435
>Also I just realized FGO probably has the most oyajis out of any mobage out there. Thank you, jewlight works.
This. Someone at TM has a dilf fetish.
Makes me wish for more daddies on my games.

>> No.24018896

>>24018793
*wise
>>24018877
Was that the shaving bee

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>>24016108
>You don't even get real h content you goddamn addict
wew you're implying that R+18 otoges are THAT common or that the BL industry didn't crash with no survivors and is still alive thanks to small indie games sold at Comiket, also
>he needs to comission his lewds

>> No.24018924

>>24018896
No he was Kaguya's pet shota she managed to abuse into loving her.

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>>24018924
>kaguya can only dominate pet shotas and virgins with no self-esteem
Sad!

>> No.24019122

>>24018980
That image reminds me I still have to play the Mebius FD. I've kept putting it off because I remember I'll be there copy-pasting every line into a dictionary looking up vocab that relates to the early 20th century Japanese civil service and shit again and you have to really be in the mood for that.

>> No.24019232

>>24018902
You have a mighty power on your hands if you're a drawfag, anon.

>> No.24019829

>>24013498
You like 2.5D idols, you want a rhythm game and/or VN with your faves, and you don't own a Nintendo Switch? Mobile games it is!
And you know, gambling addicts.

>> No.24019839

>>24016108
Why do you people assume all gacha players spend money on rolls? The only money I've ever spent on a gacha was $5 and for a pass for a game I enjoy a lot which basically costs me nothing no, it's not FEH.
Only the most retarded and impulsive people spend money on rolls.
Sure the whole design of gacha is jewish as fuck, some better than others and I can understand the hate but some gacha games manage to have a decent story and character buildup. Not all of them are stuck in that early 2010s soshage mode where it was all nothing but card collecting with nothing else.
But I am thinking with omnipandering kusoges in mind like GBF, FGO, AK, etc. Specifically targetted games (specially female-targeted ones) are complete utter garbage most of the time, why didn't they just make it into a regular normal game? Too many mobages all about the same fucking concept.

>> No.24019912

>>24018793
Kakihara, Kaji, and Namikawa can fuck off

>> No.24019917

>>24019912
Shit taste aside from Kaji

>> No.24019968

>>24019839
I've played a few and only support one since the "buy rolls" option comes with extra progression items and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. And it's less evil than other gachas with a strong story focus and not too bad with the girl/guy spread.
Buying the extra currency alone is straight up insanity though- $80 for like spins when the pity limit is 14 is fucking stupid.

I wish there was a good all-boys mobage out there to idle my commute time with but they're all the same bland collection sim with extremely stingy F2P handouts and no story worth giving a damn about.

>> No.24020046

>>24018793
Morikubo's voice can be tolerable sometimes but Kakihara and Hirakawa Daisuke sound constipated most of the time but the latter's voice manages to sound vulgar all the time even his character isn't. It doesn't help that a lot of the characters he voices are actually a piece of shit.

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Play Ken ga Toki you gaijin whore.

>> No.24020469

>Tamamor's VA replaced from Adelta's new game due to health reason
F

>> No.24020484

>>24020469
Oh shit. He caught the plague or something? That sucks, he did a great job as Tamamori.

>> No.24021497

>>24018793
Eguchi

>> No.24021660

>>24021497
How do you even recognize him? He has such a voice range, unless he's using his Vane voice, I can never tell it's him

>> No.24021805

>>24020046
Hirakawa's voice wirked really well for megane characters though. He was a fantastic Rei

>> No.24022375

>>24019839
Agreed. Last time I tried out a female oriented gacha, Obey me, it was so boring I gave up after two days.

>> No.24022850

>>24019829
I can draw but for some reason my hand cannot draw male or female lewds. I tried to draw a sexy girl but she ended up just looking mischievous.

Also it projects me back to when I used to draw my ocs kissing back in secondary school and my ensuing screams whenever someone would try to look through my drawing books

>> No.24022866

>>24019839
I've played gacha games for 4 years and haven't spent a dime on a single one. Its tempting at times, but for kusoges like FGO that don't even have a real fucking safety net, I'd rather not compound my despair by losing money.

It doesn't help that for some reason waifus are super attracted to me, A3 was a breath of fresh air on that front

>> No.24022880

>>24022375
Maybe I'm simple minded but it's been able to hold my attention so far. That said, if I decided to put a game on hold so that I could focus on SINOALICE instead when it comes out it would definitely be obey me

>> No.24023002

>>24022880
I can see why people like it cause its simplicity means you won't have to farm your ass off for weapon drops or stuff like that, and by design you're going to have more pandering from your favourite boy. I did like the fake chat messages and phone calls. I guess I'm just an autist who actually likes RPG-like mechanics even if that means you have to spend more time farming bosses.

>> No.24023307

>>24018793
>Showtaro Morikubo
Him and Namikawa. In general, I don't like really nasally voices either.

>> No.24024099

>>24020046
>Hirakawa Daisuke
if only he didn't stain himself with diabolic wifebeaters

>> No.24024176

>>24022375
and the games aimed at women are ,who die the most quickly because they suck

>> No.24024987

>>24018793
I really cannot stand Toriumi’s voice. Just hearing him voice a main character makes my interest for a route drop considerably.

>> No.24025022

I have question about Olympia soiree, I'm not great in reading moonrunes and don't understand when who fell for who when did MC fall in love with Rikuu and Tokisada? And when did Rikuu fell for her? In prologue, his route or before prologue? When did he hear about her search for a mating partner? During sex scene he said sth like he thought it had nothing do with him when he first heard about how she began looking for a husband but before he knew he got hots for her and was waiting impatiently for her to cross torii in yomi again and again, then he also mentions before their dance lesson how it was the first time he saw her dance up close and was watching them from distance, Isn't it inconsistent? Or did I misunderstand sth?

>> No.24025162

>>24020469
Please, please let him recover safely.
Also there goes any hope of the game coming out this year.

>> No.24025540

>>24025162
It's going to get delayed, but what makes you say next year?

>> No.24026591

want more traps in otoge

>> No.24027152

>>24018793
Morikubo and Kaji but at least I started liking Morikubo a little more after marathoning the seiyuu variety corner from Otomate Party from the last ten years. I have no hope for Kaji though.

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>>24026591
You'll have one more soon

>> No.24029491

>>24029139
Does she have a feminine penis? I'll be getting the game just for her(male)

>> No.24029662

see, but i want my traps to have abig cock

>> No.24029779

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-05-29/nobuhiko-okamoto-goes-on-1-month-hiatus-for-throat-surgery/.160073

RIP future screaming roles and charasongs karma

>> No.24030378

>>24029779
Serves him right after the shitstorm he caused

>> No.24030838

>>24030378
What did he do?

>> No.24031016

>>24024987
>Toriumi
Man, Ichiya (Variable Barricade) is such a fun and a good character but I most likely would've liked him much better if they kept Umehara as his VA instead. He's actually quite unique for a poster boy plus I want to see how Umehara handles this scene where Ichiya starts bawling in front of Hibari. I can't stand Toriumi's voice for some reason either. I thought it was only me because most of my friends has the hots for his voice.

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>>24030838
Is a cheating manwhore, look his name up in the archive for more details.

Related I guess, I heard this guy is a real piece of shit, like worse than usual? Im EOP but can anyone who's played it describe how far he goes and how romance even happens? I like hearing the kinds of ways otoge writers jump through hoops to make bad boys sympathetic.

>> No.24031193

>>24031016
Like most seiyuu, he's not great at voicing manwhores or kuudere which seems to take up a majority of his roles. He's fine as more normal characters like in Dies Irae.

>> No.24031783

>>24031021
I read about his route a long time ago, so I don't really remember the details. But one of these events likely happened
>he gives the main character a choice: to be raped by a mob or become his sex toy
>Fucks mc in front of another male character with a route before killing him
>Pimps mc's friend and gets her addicted to drugs
In any case I'm going to play it for shits and giggles

>> No.24032186

Post BL games where MC is best boy

>> No.24032315

>>24032186
Lucky Dog 1

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>>24031783
Oh so just a fat old ugly bastard except hot. sasuga otomate.

>> No.24032551

>>24031783
>Fucks mc in front of another male character with a route before killing him
Peak romance.

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>>24029139
>>24029491
Everyone here would slap that feminine ass.

>> No.24032729

Is TakagiD finally going to get another popular game now that that one shitty artist is drawing for the cupid game instead of this?

>> No.24033698

>>24018793
Kamiya and Morikubo. Toriumi to a lesser extent (ironically, he voiced my husbando)

Hirakawa I really like but he has to be used in moderation because he sounds so distinctive.

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>>24018793
Sakurai. I don't get the hype for him at all, I find his voice incredibly annoying so as you can imagine his sudden burst of popularity among English speaking circles is wearing my patience thin.

>> No.24035354

>>24018793
Kakihara and Namikawa
I can't take their acting seriously most of the time, hate Kakihara's weird airy end to his phrases, and Namikawa really sucks at shouting.

>> No.24036506

>>24018793
Miyata Kouki.

>> No.24041002

https://www.dlsite.com/bl-pro/work/=/product_id/BJ241058.html
Hashihime fanbook got published digitally.

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>>24031783
>>Fucks mc in front of another male character with a route before killing him
More like he told him that you will know a woman's value after fucking her he also uses her as a shield to protect himself and kills both her and Dante in this end. It's not him who spread drugs and got her friend addicted to it but his subordinate, Lee. Either way, he's still an edgy piece of shit though he can be entertaining sometimes. There is a reason why he's popular among the nips. They always love these type of charas.

>> No.24042094 [DELETED] 

>>24041799
It hurts me how tryhard these types of characters are, and reminds me that the target audience of this game is probably 11

>> No.24042111

>>24041799
It hurts me how tryhard these types of characters are, and reminds me that the target audience of this genre is probably 11

>> No.24042164

>>24042111
Sometimes I come across a dialovers anime clip on youtube or something and the comment sections are full of stuff obviously written by very young girls about how much they wish it was them.

>> No.24042322

>>24042164
Then they grow up and discover the joys of femdom.

>> No.24042340

>>24042322
Being a masochistic slut for 2d guys feels good enough

>> No.24042478

>>24042164
>>24042322
Even when I was young I wondered what the fuck was wrong with them. That's what happens when you're exposed to the wrong things at a young age. When I was a kid I was fantasizing of a prince picking me flowers and proposing to me, not being raped and killed by the mafia or some weird shit.

>>24042340
Sorry you hate yourself that much. I hope you get the help you need.

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>>24042478
Not sure what kind of mental illness you have, but they are not real, they can't hurt you.

>> No.24042570

>>24042500
Don't speak to me, mesubuta.

>> No.24042589

I only like hardcore stuff if it's BL or femdom, seeing a cute girl get abused just makes me feel bad.

>> No.24042599

>>24042570
Stop, you're only turning her (male) on.

>> No.24042619

>>24042478
A prince who picks flowers for me and proposes to me, who as soon as I'm locked into marriage rapes me daily and makes me his guro ryona slave because I remind him of his dead mother would be nice.

>> No.24042667

>>24042619
That's stupid enough to probably be a thing.

>> No.24042697

>>24042619
Just go outside bro

>> No.24042707

>>24042667
I feel like some of the Black Wolves Saga endings were like that but it's dead fiance rather than mother and the rape was all off screen so who knows how much guro there was.

>> No.24042727

>>24042667
"Perfect gentleman that is actually an abusive rapist for stupid reasons" is probably one of the oldest archetypes in lit aimed at women. I personally don't understand it, but at least it's pretty easy to avoid works featuring that shit. In the case of VNs they are usually the best comedy value routes.

>>24042589
If otome protagonists were more than helpless weaklings it wouldn't feel so bad. BL protagonists are usually a little fiesty so it's not always a bad thing to see them get utterly wrecked.

>> No.24042770

>>24031783
Picked the fuck up.

>> No.24042785

The fantasy behind the rapist archetype is that you don't have to embarrass yourself by actively looking for sex, it's just given to you, and you can even still be a 'good girl' and refuse it and get it.
It's the same reason that there's so much mana transfer stuff in eroge, 'oh no I have no choice but to have sex', it's born out of sexual repression.

>> No.24043010

>>24042589
Abusing some meek fragile young grill is boring and just demonstrates the character is weak willed himself. Now beating the shit of someone equal or superior is a marker of virile hot blooded male and should be the norm.

>> No.24043044

>>24043010
Agree with this. Men who beat up girls are pathetic and weak to begin with.

>> No.24044232

>>24041002
Every time someone brings up this game, I get reminded of how I wish the last route wasn't so fucking shit so I could actually recommend this game to other people. I can't believe the same person who wrote route 1/2 also wrote 3/5.

>> No.24044464

>>24042697
He wants a 2d guy, not an actual fat ugly man

>> No.24044732

>>24044232
I've seen people react less negatively to it nowadays, I guess because the spoilers about it being an AU are out and fairly know (Plus all the extra stuff that got translated.

But yeah, the content of the last route makes it a hard recc.

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When registering for airavalky do you need to link an active social media account or is it just there for the hell of it?

>> No.24045369

>>24045114
Wtf do they still accept new members? I wrote the cringiest and most embarrassing essay known to the humankind yet they didn't let me in

>> No.24045667

>>24045114
Probably just for the hell of it, I just linked a tumblr I never posted on and wrote like three sentences.
Considering the upload dates she might not be checking up on the site as much these days though.

>> No.24047755 [DELETED] 

>terf gets banned from the otome server I use
Oof, she was cool

>> No.24047903

>>24047755
And Discord drama has anything to do with what?

>> No.24048228

I'm wondering if some of you managed to modify EraQueen game files to have more starting money in the extra mode. I looked through the files but did not see any relevant parameter.

>> No.24049495

RIP Happyele has now removed all innuendos.

>> No.24054252

>>24049495
Huh?

>> No.24054376

I should just delete Enstars already. The music is shit and I still don't care about these literally whos

>> No.24054422

>>24054376
just take the twistedpill

>> No.24054617

>>24054422
>glorified Flash game

Already uninstalled

>> No.24054664

Wtf the fuck anons you told me twisted was BL leaning but the pixiv yume tag is currently crushing the BL tag? Are the nips delusional or is it really a sausagefest?

>> No.24054675

>>24054664
There are more yumejou than fujoshi- always have been and will be. And they will bend reality as much as they damn well please to enjoy their boys, just like fujos do.

They're two sides of the same coin.

>> No.24054780

>>24054252
Someone posted here >>24048724 >>24054067
I guess the emails and petitions the KR users were making got to them.

>> No.24054892

>>24054664
There isn't even any canon homo. Twistedshitters are shills and liars.

>> No.24056316
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>>24054664
Mostly delusional from what I've seen, lots of entries from one single artist and the like. But I personally don't like shipping the boys at all either, they're all just friends.

>>24054892
Neither there is canon romance at all. All of the interactions that happen within the game are all with the boys interacting with eachother and never with (You) because (You) are barely relevant. Also why do you hate the game? I barely have a hard time discussing it here at all without people like you calling me a shill.

>> No.24056383

>>24056316
Anything by the Rat House will be hated by a certain subset of the population.

I think it's a well-executed but very sterile and somewhat cynical otome game. When the rat gets involved in making something it will probably be successful, but it's also absolutely unmistakably tied to their media empire somehow. They can't resist reminding people of the old classic animated films in totally unrelated works like TW. People are there for the boys, not to join the cult of the rat.

>> No.24056430
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>>24054664

>> No.24059338

>>24056430
A powerful rat by the name of Charles Entertainment Cheese

>> No.24064866

>>24056430
Why cant I romance mickey

>> No.24065313

>>24064866
You had your chance in Chain of Memories

>> No.24065613

kalmia8 fucking sucks

>> No.24066035

>>24065613
Explain

>> No.24066245
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>Inferior brother getting his route first

I hate his stories so much. Always with the "He's an actor and I'm a normal grill uwu I'll never be good enough for him" shit. Just get this over with so Makoto can get his turn. And if it's another yandere route I swear

>> No.24066449 [DELETED] 

Which existing Nendoroids would you like to see as Nendoroid dolls? (assuming that outfits will also sell separately)

>> No.24066764

>>24066245
Why is this series still going on
They all look like the same guy

>> No.24070558

>>24066764
>not wanting an orgy with handsome yandere clones
Aniki..

>> No.24070661

god why are long-haired boys so hot

>> No.24071482
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>>24070661
They make you want to run your fingers through it

>> No.24073162

>>24070661
If only they were more common and not just token sluts in modern setting

>> No.24080349

cooming

>> No.24081158

>>24080349
So does anyone have a fave sex scene?

>> No.24082712

>>24081158
Kawase one
Actually got me scared

>> No.24082733

>>24082712
Scared about what?

>> No.24082757

>>24082733
Thought it would be a "bad" ending / MC was going to die

>> No.24085216

>>24081158
Gut fucking in Mashou Megane

>> No.24089209

>>24082712
I loved that scene and have a save file right before it.
It made me love asphyxia fetish even more and I adore the hand holding CG.

>> No.24090052
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24090052

I'm considering getting either the unscanlated granblue artbooks or some enstars artbooks, but I'm pretty new to enstars and don't know what has been scanlated. Anyone got a clue?

These monsters weigh 2kg per book, 500+ pages so I need to think about shipping.

>> No.24090286

>>24090052
If you're talking about the newest set of Granblue graphic archives then those always end up getting scanned.
Don't know about enstars.

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Is it worth buying?

>> No.24091409

>>24090052
I've only seen photos of certain parts of the EnStars artbook. No one has ever scanned the whole thing.

>> No.24093518
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>>24054892
>>24056383
>otome game
lmao the MC isn't even a girl, hell It's not even a person it's a fucking cameraman. Also everything you consume is tied to a media empire.

>> No.24093531

>>24081158
That one where Taisho Mebiusline mc fucks his boyfriend in front of the guy who's crushing on him and then kills him. That was hot

>> No.24093628

>>24093531
the ideal relationship

>> No.24095228
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>>24093518
Kalim a cutie

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Where is the game

>> No.24099686

>>24049495
https://twitter.com/ensemble_stars/status/1268779710135189504
Official R-18 version of Enstars when?

>> No.24100886

>>24099686
Based. Will they let us fuck idols now? Or will we be able to whore them out to old men now?

>> No.24101484

Apparently Hashihime's manga will be serialize on cool b itself.

>> No.24101607
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>>24054664
>twst夢
>2986作品
>ツイ腐テ
>2609作品
The Boys Rabu tag only has 300 less entries also
>using pixiv in 2020
>>24054675
I mean on one side you have each chapter being about the relationship the boys have with each other and on the other side you have that most of the lines MC has are EXPOSITION about EXPOSING the situation or with 0 romantic/flirtatious undertones. So it takes some delusions
The only one who is into (You) is Malleus and maybe the twins.

>> No.24101645

>>24101484
that's really cool

>> No.24101958

>>24093531
Picked up.

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>>24099686
Thinking about it there already were depictions of idols who committed suicide or were about to commit suicide. They should have been flagged some 4 1/2 years ago.

>> No.24102819

>>24095424
The same place the next Castlevania is.

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>>24101607
Fuck twitter, I hope trump screws it over or some r18 ban happens so everyone moves platform. The best art goes untagged and some artists have stopped uploading their art as a log to pixiv altogether. Fuck twitter.

>> No.24102888

>>24102489
I hate you for reminding me how old Enstars is

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>>24095228
>the 2nd half of Episode 4 is nothing but Kalim bullying 24/7
Okay there's too much suffering in this kusoge who the fuck is in charge of the writing? The Magia Record team like the pre-release rumors said?
Should we make a Twisted Wonderland General in /jp/?

>> No.24103744

>>24102901
good luck

>> No.24104324

>>24102901
>who the fuck is in charge of the writing
Supposedly yana is basically doing everything except being in charge of production stuff. She does character design, writing and creative control iirc.
>general in /jp/
I don't think it'll last, I still have /sword/ ptsd from that time but doing it in /cm/ wouldn't exactly hurt

>> No.24104564

>>24104324
I can see her having a lot of weight in the creative control and direction of the game in general, but I don't think she has released an statement saying that she did the script/writting. Especially when she does that for the art each time a new SSR/SR is released.

>> No.24105145

>>24102489
If anything knowing enstars sex scandals would either be implied homo producer rape or an antagonist getting into hot water for some sex tape going out

>> No.24106106

>>24104564
>but I don't think she has released an statement saying that she did the script/writting.
I remember seeing one of her tweets saying that she wrote jamil's ssr story and trying to explain the whole fairy gala stuff which she also likely wrote. Maybe she doesn't write EVERYTHING but she has some considerable amount of things she's done for the game sort off

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>>24102901
I expect some healing soon in Pomefiore.
>Should we make a Twisted Wonderland General in /jp/?
Yes please /vg/ is too fast and /cm/ has become a shadow of what it used to be.

>> No.24106532

>>24093518
can't help but laugh really, even something like F/GO has actual romantic relationships between characters or characters being all lovey dovey with the MC but there are people saying TW is otome or BL based on absolutely nothing.

>> No.24106543

>>24102901
She's the main scenario gal, aka what Nasu is doing in FGO.

>> No.24106560

>>24106532
It's a game with good old homolust, I don't think anyone expected anything else.

>> No.24106761

>>24106532
>>24101607
I'm calling it Otome because it's clearly aimed at women while not having any true BL elements (just hints and teasing for those who care for it). And since (you) don't do a goddamn thing other than watch the pretty boys, (your) gender is irrelevant.

As far as the media empre thing goes- yeah. Even small studios are related to larger ones. They're inescapable. But only Disney will shove it's animated movies into wholly separate universes. Again, here for the boys, not to be reminded of the films I watched as a kid. Just ruins the whole damn thing.

>> No.24106791

>>24106761
That's doesn't make it otome. It's just joseimuke.

>> No.24106846

>>24106761
Still doesn't count as otome

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>still don't really know what Twisted Wonderland plot is about

>> No.24107749
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>>24107705
I made this frash baked Original Content just for you anon!
Basically imagine that you get Isekai'd to a Madoka Magica(male) universe with the boys themed after the disney Villains, gimmicks ensures while you try to get to your world and spooky stuff might or might not be happening in the background. Also Mickey is there we still don't know why.

>> No.24108407

>>24107749
>the fucking ears
kek

>> No.24109854
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Sometimes I would like to ditch my pals and get dicked down by an arrogant guy

>> No.24114474

Will Orange Rouge pull the same thing they did with Hypmic and announce a huge batch of Twisted Wonderland nendoroids at once?

>> No.24114585

>>24109854
I'd rather dick Lucifer down.

>> No.24115717

>>24114474
I wish, but they'll probably do like 5 characters total and call it a day. I thought figures would already have been in production before the game released, but I forgot it only released in march and corona happended.

>> No.24117152

>>24107749
>Mickey QB
My sides

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Rejet btfo. Do they still not have their music on streaming platforms outside of Japan? Alexa, play "JULIET"

>> No.24118360

>>24118317
Oh no no no, delete this filthy gaijins. I bet you are pirating Diabolic lovers 1736 at the moment

>> No.24122568

Suppose Hashihime gets an anime adaptation. What parts should it adapt and what studio should do it?

>> No.24122792

>>24122568
Low-budget: DEEN with the Rakugou staff
Dream: WIT

2-cour, adapt Minakami's route. Adapt the route splits as OVAs.

>> No.24122985

>>24122568
probably a shitty studio like most bl anime

>> No.24123515

>>24122568
Shaft, all of them like they did with the Monogatari series

>> No.24123525

>>24122568
Do they keep the indie VA or do they get new ones this is important.

>> No.24124383
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Bless A3 for bringing awareness to autism

>> No.24125893

>obey me get super popular with the normies
>shall we date ditches all there other apps

I think ninja shadow is the only one left

>> No.24125925

>>23999106
why did this turn form a otome into a joseimuke again?

Did people really start playing an otome and whined about wanting the boys to fuck so the company listened??

Imagine the reverse happening...

>> No.24126789

>>24125925
We kneel to our fujomasters, hetbro...

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>>24124383
Bless A3 because it's dying.

>> No.24129659

>>24122568
Imagine the shitstorm if the last route ever gets adapted. I can already see people saying it got Rakugo'd or Usagi Drop'd.

>> No.24129750

>>24129659
God the Rakugo ending was such bullshit. Made me far more angry than the Hashihime ending actually.

>> No.24129817

>>24107749
>/blog/ still making OC in the year 2020
Bless you anon

>> No.24130020

>>24125925
Is that really true? Isn't the fujo stuff quarantined in the fujo ends?

>> No.24130736

>>24018793
Namikawa, Hirakawa, Konishi, Toriumi, Okiayu

>> No.24130799

>>24129646
I can understand it losing to obey me but losing to Mr. Love with it's chuuni writing and irritating gameplay feels insulting (not like the gameplay in A3 is anything special but it didn't infuriate me)

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>> No.24134340
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>6月11日(木)からは【2章まで遊べる体験版】も配信予定です

2020 and Koei is the only one releasing demos of their otome

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>they drew the puke
this is absolutely a fetish thing isn't it

>> No.24138342

>>24134340
Extend, Mages, and Otomate have all released demos in the Switch

>> No.24139899

>>24137237
Sure as hell looks like it. I don't understand puke fetishists but whatever. My kink is also rarely included so good for them for getting something.

>> No.24141087

>>24138342
But they rarely do. Isn‘t Rose of Versailles the only Switch game from Otomate that got a demo?

>> No.24142986

>>24137237
>>24139899
As someone with a puke fetish, the image itself does nothing for me. Needs actual gurgling sounds accompanied with it.

>> No.24144495

>>24013498
https://twitter.com/Tennenouji_Info/status/1269860502324211713

>> No.24150553
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I have little interest in CD Dramas but how often things like this one happen? As in thinly veiled fanfiction for particular pairings from non-bl media. And I don't mean just particular VA x particular VA but characters in drama are obvously supposed to be someone's expy and share seiyuu with said characters.

>> No.24153435

My favorite part of otome games is watching a cute boy fall deeply in love with a cute girl, getting the bad end where she dies, and hearing him cry and whimper as he realizes he's a failure of a man who couldn't even protect his gf from being penetrated by sharp objects. Unfortunately, many bad ends are the other way around, and while it's not bad mcs aren't usually voiced so it's not as good.

>> No.24155351

>>24150553
This was a once of a lifetime ''miracle''.

>> No.24155834
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>concert uploaded for one day only

Still has the best 2d boy band music

https://youtu.be/Z6OIzsTU6fs

>> No.24156564

>>24155834
huh? it's been up for a month tho

>> No.24156990

>>24155834
I hate it when they have to look down at the screen for the lyrics

>> No.24160044

>>24153435
This desu.
Code realize character moves on so fast after the main character's death it's not fun

>> No.24161777
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This is your wife (male) for the night

>> No.24163749
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>Kanato's bad ends
I feel so bad for him. MC is such a horrible slut. Totally abusive. I kind of don't even want to unlock the good end.

>> No.24165800

I dropped Touken Ranbu after 5 days of playing because I don't like this kind of "gameplay" but I'm still somewhat interested in swords themselves. Are there any recommendations for official Touken Ranbu media? What is worth checking?

>> No.24165828

>>24165800
It has two anime, one more SoL focused than the other. And there are countless doujinshi if you want porn. There's an official manga too.

>> No.24166021

>>24163749
Wait, what happened? I thought the boys were the abusive sluts.

>> No.24166077

>>24163749
Shit taste. The end where the MC becomes an abusive slut are the best ends

>> No.24166279

>>24166021
Well, yeah, but Kanato is more fragile. There's one end where MC is cheating on him with every other guy. The other has her meet up with the other guys to try and figure out how to change his personality: lying to him and breaking an earlier promise that she wouldn't talk to them (because she basically invites them to have their way with her three times earlier in the route).
>>24166077
Go play fujoge

>> No.24166283

>>24163749
Is it the S ending in the first game? She ends up like that for Reasons that other routes go into detail about. They're happily ever after in the M ending

>> No.24166421

>>24166283
Yeah, the first. I wouldn't call a cheating slut, even if she kills her lovers, a happy ending.

>> No.24166931

>>24163749
>>24166279
Sadistic men aren't people anyway, so who cares if they get cheated on?

>> No.24166968

>>24166931
T.tranny

>> No.24166982

>>24166077
Self insert?

>> No.24167066

>>24166968
t. hambeast

>> No.24167087

I thought we liked diabolik lovers for the laughs. I didn't think people actually liked the boys or thought they were anything more than jokes.

>> No.24167300

>>24167066
>>24167087
eop trannies out in force

>> No.24167996

>>24167087
Would still hold hands with Subaru

>> No.24168869
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>Taishou Mebiusline is fully translated into Russian but not English

ESLchads, assemble

>> No.24169011

>>24168869
There's actually a part in Taisho Mebiusline where MC reads the communist manifesto, fun fact.

>> No.24169069

>>24167087
Would listen to r18 drama cds with Shuu.

>> No.24169270

>>24168869
Based fujo madwoman is actually translating the FD now. How can EOP compare

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Why do we keep bringing up Mebius at the moment. Have we just run out of other shit to talk about or something?

Anyway who's everyone's best boy? (that's if you've actually played it, EOPs stay losing)

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>>24169632
Senge
>the way their relationship progress from everyone assuming Kyou is his sex toy to them becoming equals and Senge caring about Kyou
>kinky sex
>long hair
>realizing he fucked up and lost everything including his reason to live, and taking responsibility for that in the way he can
>slowly deteriorating sanity and health
>being fucked over in every ending and adaptation
>the way he becomes a lazy fuck who can't even brush his hair in the FD
>hot uniforms and taking over the world
>the feeling of doom and depression
He's a perfect man

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>>24129646
Step up western senpais

>> No.24170452

>>24169841
I love Senge's route too. I've seen people complain about the ending seeming unresolved and strange but the doom and depression is what makes it. A triumphant feeling ending would have been shit and out of place.

>> No.24170515

>>24169069
Toriumi probably does have some CDs, but they're old news by now. Doesn't he have a Lovers Only installment?

>> No.24170533

>>24165800
There's a shitton of stage plays and musicals, those will be your most consistent sources of content. But you also have >>24165828

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>>24170452
As much as I love happy endings, I loved the atmosphere of the route and it just wouldn't make sense in his case. There's no return from what's done, even if he was manipulated his entire life
However I'm delusional and desperate enough to think a sappy kimetsu style reincarnation and reuniting with kyou in modern times would be possible for him and Kyouichirou

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>>24170576
*he's

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post designs you like from upcoming games

>> No.24171946

>>24168869
Impressive but also a little scary.

>> No.24172021

>>24168869
Based Russian fans. How's the translation quality?

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>>24171843
best boy (girl)

>> No.24172485
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How was the last Hana Awase game? Did they change her gender to add romantic scenes or what?
>>24172021
Pretty great actually. I'm impressed someone translated the entire thing on their own

>> No.24172552

>>24172485
>Pretty great
Noice.
>on their own
So this is the true power of Mother Russia. Thank you. This inspires me to be more diligent in my JP training against dekinaichan.

>> No.24173878

I didn't realise russia had this much of a fujo community, but I guess after china I shouldn't be surprised.
>>24172552
>This inspires me to be more diligent in my JP training against dekinaichan.

Same here. I'm actually feeling my progress recently cause I started reading a certain manga in raw form because the fan translator isn't doing it anymore and it's been easier than expected.

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>>24170576
I feel like the double suicide end where they go to the underworld path is the closest to a traditional happy ending from what I remember because everything is resolved, even if it's at the expense of our protagonists' lives, but I still like the true end more.

Also talking of Senge's route I replayed it recently and only noticed then that there was actually an option to try and seduce Tatebayashi lol. No idea how I didn't notice it before but poor Kyoichiro, he doesn't even manage it and ends up getting an extra dose of sexual bullying from Senge for his troubles.

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>1st place hated so much even nips are calling it shit taste

How bad was that event. Never got around to reading it and now I'm afraid to

>> No.24177024

>>24173878
>I didn't realise russia had this much of a fujo community, but I guess after china I shouldn't be surprised.
It's not weird at all?

>> No.24178478

>>24177024
How is it weird to assume that an anti-gay country would try to crack down on fujo content? Though like I said I'm aware that in china it hasn't exactly gotten rid of the fujos.

>> No.24178498

>>24178478
IIRC, Russia gives no shits as long as you keep your degenerate hobbies hidden. They don't care about fujos as much as they do actual gay people corrupting the youth and all that nonsense. Even the Chinese will look the other way as long as the fans keep it low-key.

>> No.24178626

>>24178498
It's more likely most boomers who run russia probably don't know what a fujo even is or how to operate the internet.

>> No.24179663

>>24178478
Russia isn't a totalitarian Regine that aims to control every aspect of their citizen life, they are a corrupt "democracy" where no one else can run because political adversaries keep getting killed off and the dumb citizen are feed propaganda.


They are similar, but not quite the same.

>> No.24180099

>>24172032
Reminds me of a buttai shoujo versin if kenka

>> No.24183887

Aren't girls cuter than boys?

>> No.24183984

>>24183887
Yes.That's why traps are the best.

>> No.24184054

Looking for wife. I'm a 6'3" vampire prince billionaire pirate Cossack hedge fund manager with white hair and blue eyes. Also, I have a dark past. I will basically rape you then fall in love with you, turn into a complete idiot and marry you.

No fat chicks.

>> No.24184257

>>24183887
Not in this general

>> No.24184288

>>24184054
good, but you've got to mention cage or drowning somewhere

>> No.24184756

>>24184054
Hello, I am a 9'6" eldritch deity king with black hair, red eyes, a 12" cock, and infinite tentacles in whatever sizes you desire. I will be coming to get you soon, my darling boy bride.

>> No.24185051

>>24184054
>no cage
Pathetic, I'm not interested

>> No.24186361

>game has no blond men
literally unplayable

>> No.24186384

>>24186361
>game has no long-haired men
literally unplayable

>> No.24187183

Is Amnesia that good? It is rated highest otome game at vndb.

>> No.24187616

>>24187183
It's actually seems to be collarxmalice if you look through all the site's highest rated https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=tagspoil-0;rfil=;cfil=;o=d;s=rating

>> No.24189794

>>24187183
Good for M types.

>> No.24190329

>>24186361
>game has no trap
literally unplayable

>> No.24191213

>>24190329
>liking trannies
What went so wrong in your life

>> No.24193618
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24193618

Is he the best Hakuoki?

>> No.24193700

>>24191213
>being a retard from /v/
What went so wrong with your life

>> No.24194052

>>24193618
>instantly preordered when i first saw it
yes

>> No.24195219
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24195219

normal thing to say to your platonic male friend after you platonically spend the night cuddling in the same futon with him

>> No.24195566

>>24172485
I bought limited edition because it was one of my favorite otoge series. The last entry pretty much ruined this series for me and my last coping resort is pretending it had ended on KU-hen. As for Momotose the whole game is actually a kinetic novel and there's like only one choice that affects which cg you'll get and nothing more, only 'Iroha' has a route but 'Iroha' from this game isn't the Iroha from previous games. Anyway you don't get to date Momotose, the male Momotose appears only for a tiny bit at the beginning and then goes MIA for the rest of the game.

>> No.24196114

>>24195566
What the fuck then. The game sounds interesting at first especially the strange world it has, but the farther it goes the worse it gets?

>> No.24196797

>>24142986
the entire scene is Mio rubbing Hisora's back while he pukes his guts out for like 5 mins. It's definitely lovely if you have a vomit fetish.

>> No.24196848

>>24196114
The first two titles are of high quality with utmost attention to the detail, the third one is a bit rushed and Karakurenai's route was somewhat disappointing for me, especially because his spotlight was kind of taken by Ime in his own route and then overally taken by Iroha, even though it was his game shared with Utsutsu, who also had his spotlight taken but to a lesser degree. Anyway KU-hen still had high quality and the most emotional ending (Iroha's route) in the whole series imo. Iroha-hen, the most anticipated entry that was stuck in development for 4 years, was absolute trainwreck.

>> No.24197079

>>24195219
Particularly ironic because Naruomi sports a Magnum so it's mostly just flattery.

>> No.24197566

Anything good with pretty guys on the DMM platform? Just started checking it out

>> No.24198049

>Personality: possessive

>> No.24198558
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>>24196797
Mio isn't just rubbing his back, he's actually making Hisora puke because it won't come up on it's own by sticking his fingers down Hisora's throat. Unfortunately this isn't obvious from the CGs.

>>24197079
I feel like the writer has a greater than normal fixation on dicks, the way they're described and the amount of times the topic comes up seems degenerate even for an R18 BL game, pic related. On that note, Akari sure is disgusting, makes me want to go wash my hands after any time he appears.

>> No.24199811

byakuya Q&A clip for carnelian blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iPwrov70I

>>24198558
>sticking his fingers down Hisora's throat.
Haha you're right, I somehow forgot that.
And yeah Nie no Machi is way out there even for a BL game.

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24200265

Jesus fuck what are they thinking. Itd cost 30 dollars more then it'd cost on the vita

Is it the same for the Japanese versions?

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>>24200265
regular mainline switch games are less expensive

Why would they make a visual novel almost a hundred bux?

>> No.24200306

>>24200265
pay the fucking money gaijin, you don't want to singelhandedly kill otome industry by being piratebastard right!?

>> No.24200445

>>24198558
Akari's line reminds me though, doesn't it feel like Hisora was supposed to be waaay younger initially? Imagine if you never heard his voice and stuff and forget he's a freeter, you'd think Hisora's a middle schooler or so.
>his body parts are smol, pink and cute
>feels like he missed most experiences a young man, particularly romance of course
>dangerously innocent and naive
>a dumbass actually
>has several infantilization bad ends, gets babied by everyone
Of course you could attribute some of it to his trauma and stuff, and he wouldn't be the first VN protag who seems brain-damaged (though you mostly see that in otome.)
But the other guys were younger or no older than him when they got isekai'd IIRC, and they had their own baggage, yet they all feel far more experienced and mature despite spending the last few years essentially lazing around in a hotel disconnected from the real world. Yeah yeah, it's a pretty gruesome world, but it's not really the kind that helps you grow as a person, in fact most of the villagers seem to be regressing mentally.
I haven't actually finished Naruomi's true route, if it's revealed Hisora was actually frozen in time for a decade or something then don't spoil me. I think I got most of the reveals from the other guys' routes and the twins' bad end though.

>> No.24200594

>>24200265
>Is it the same for the Japanese versions?
Seems on par with how much they sell for in Japan. The switch inflated otome game prices in Japan too

>> No.24201360
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24201360

Did anyone play Dot Kareshi? Who is your favorite?

>> No.24201963

>>24200445
I'm actually just finishing up Naruomi's route now and holy fuck unavoidable NTR through Akari. God damn.

I haven't actually got many of the bad ends because I thought that they'd just be cut to black type insta death scenes from the ones I did get, but seems like they're full of horrifying eroguro shit looking at vndb so time to collect them too I guess.

>> No.24202511
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24202511

Do you like guy on the right or on the left more?

>> No.24202801

>>24175268
If you ignore the true ending being open ended, the plot, the fan disk and Senge deciding to follow it through until the end even if it was a pathetic attempt to cling to his sanity, this ending can almost be called a happy one!
>Also talking of Senge's route I replayed it recently and only noticed then that there was actually an option to try and seduce Tatebayashi lol. No idea how I didn't notice it before but poor Kyoichiro, he doesn't even manage it and ends up getting an extra dose of sexual bullying from Senge for his troubles.
Damn anon, you're evil. Now I want to replay it again just for this.
>>24195566
What the fuck, I regret asking about it.
I was already bitter about Karakurenai game not being the game about Karakurenai, but this just tops it. If they were going to treat him like shit, they shouldn't have bothered making this game. Even Momotose route would've been better.

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24203325

>>24202511
The VR advertisement spooked the fuck outta me. But I'll take poc related instead

>> No.24203361

>>24202511
I want them to jerk off each other

>> No.24203532

>>24198558
>baby pink penis
Wow.

>> No.24204032

>>24198558
Reading that line made me feel gross

>> No.24204193

>>24190329
>>24186361
Post shamelessly begging for good trap hero(ines?) recommendations

>> No.24204276
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24204276

Whew, finished collecting the Nie no Machi bad ends.
>snuff though alcohol enema
>mob rape mindbreak
>tentacle rape (and the tentacles go all the way through too)
>cannibalism and necrophilia at the same time
>amputation and age regression
>NTR with love interest getting a wound in his throat fucked in front of MC


I wondered why there were these peeks of extreme fetish stuff like vomit and guro in the good ends while the rest of the ero stuff was largely pretty vanilla. Seeing the bad ends has cleared up that mystery. It's probably got some of the nastiest scenes I've seen in a BL game. Maybe stuff like PigeonBlood or Paradise is worse because it doesn't keep the fucked up shit to the bad ends but that tentacle scene was real horrific.

My overall impressions of the VN were that it was pretty entertaining though I had seen a lot of this kind of stuff before. I feel like this kind of premise, where MC is isekai'd or trapped in a place with a bunch of boys and the plot and worldbuilding is largely a framework to get MC and their boy to hang out while they learn about each other's tragic pasts and look at a bunch of weird spooky shit together or whatever is way more common in otome than BL so it was sort of new in that aspect though.

For the characters, my ranking would be Naruomi>Mio=Asuku>Koko though none of them are especially shit. Koko is only last because I really don't care for that character type and they didn't really do anything new with it. Naruomi is perfect and did nothing wrong.

Some of Mio and Asuku's ero scenes started out of nowhere. I guess everyone is lusting after Hisora on the down low because he 'smells of life' or whatever and are just looking for the first excuse to dick him but even then. Also I wish Asuku had bottomed instead but too bad.

As for Hisora the MC, he has a dog's brain and that's really all I can say about him. They use the classic otome self insert plot device of some kind of supernatural charm (in this case the life smell) that has nothing to do with the MC's actual personality or appearance to make everyone want to fuck him. It kills two birds with one stone here because it also means monsters and psycho villagers come after him so the love interests have to save him constantly.

It was fun enough though I guess. Played it all in one go and it went by fast.

>> No.24205010

>>24168869
Thank for telling me, gonna download it right now

>> No.24205021

Anyone played no thank you? I'm probably less than half through Horikoshi's route and I have no idea how I'd be able to do the other routes he's just so adorable sand cute.
Also there should be more BL where MCs is strictly a top imo

>> No.24205057

>>24177024
>>24178478
>>24178498
Kek you have no idea. Degenerate shit and LGBT is all over runet even in the most normie places. The formal governmental position is very much apart from people's actual opinions. Plus no one gives a shit what you're into unless you wear a shirt with "I love gay sex" on it.

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>>24183887
>>24183984
Sometimes no.

>> No.24205422

>>24205057
Everyone knows people are hypocrites anon.

>> No.24205483

>>24205021
I've played Kouichi Inui route only. I really enjoy lean top + huge muscly bottom. The last sex scene was especially hot.

>> No.24205625

>>24205422
Oh ok never mind then

>> No.24205639

>>24205483
I see I suggest trying Hiroyoki's route, he's really cute. Also I don't understand why in most BLs or at least the popular ones MC is always the bottom, I don't appreciate it.

>> No.24205731

>>24205639
Girls want to self insert as girls but with baby pink penises.

>> No.24205779

>>24205639
Hiroyoki looks too much like a classic uke. I wanted to go for the toppest most defiant guy and I was not disappointed with Inui route.

>> No.24206002

>>24205057
Russian normalfags have pretty immature reaction to anything related to homosexuality. Yesterday a big news media posted an article about the case of homosexual rape in the National Guard and the reaction in social media is basically 'ahaha look the police is gay and fugs each other in the asses :DDD'

>> No.24206084

>>24201963
Oh yes, make sure you see the tentacle one at least.

>> No.24206130

>>24206084
Oh I should have kept reading first.
>>24204276
Yeah, the bad ends make up for the lack of guro elements in the rest of the game really, I was somewhat shocked by how little the horror element came into play otherwise.
I'm in agreement with the rest largely. I'm glad I played it but it wasn't exactly a kamige.
How many fucking yandere/yangire can you fit in a game though? Apparently all of them.

>> No.24206153

>>24204032
well it's supposed to. I don't know why they keep THAT guy around really.

>> No.24206424

>>24200265
Has to be a price mistake because that does not equal USD$50

>> No.24206626

>>24206153
>literal pedophile sex offender
>is blackmailing a love interest into sex his entire route
>the whole plot is his fault
>the worst thing that happens to him is a beating from that he'll recover from


They put a lot of effort into making him especially awful.

>> No.24207008

Why are reddit otome fans such cancer?
>heroines should be strong and independent
>want yuri routes
>demand jp devs pander to them despite the fact 90% just pirate

>> No.24207014

>>24207008
What's wrong with the first two?

>> No.24207042

>>24207014
It undermines the entire romantic arc, no Japanese audience wants it, no straight girl wants it that isn't a tranny, it's not a genre for it.
Just play yuri games if you want yuri routes. Check out Nurse Love.

>> No.24207107

>>24207008
>Why are reddit otome fans such cancer?
Because they are dudes.

>> No.24207118

>>24207107
probably more landwhale feminists

>> No.24207126

>>24207042
There are already a bunch of companies that have put yuri routes in their games so it's not like this is a new thing or something the west would be forcing on them.
Every yuri game I've tried has been boring as hell but whenever I've come across a route in an otoge I've liked it. Don't see why wanting more is a problem unless you hate the idea of bislut MCs.

>> No.24207131

>>24207042
>It undermines the entire romantic arc, no straight girl wants it that isn't a tranny
I hope you mean that about the yuri and not the first point. I'd just rather MCs be capable, thoughtful, and not retarded though. Same with male MCs too, I wonder why everyone regardless of gender likes self-inserting into an idiot who can't do anything right and has no agency at all instead of someone genuinely cool and likable.

>> No.24207136

>>24207042
Most female yuri fans in Japan are straight.

>> No.24207272

>>24207131
You're on 4chan lol you aren't any of those things

>> No.24207313

>>24207272
Way to miss the point

>> No.24208470

>>24205021
I played it but I found it pretty disappointing for the most part. It's porn heavy but I didn't like the way the sex scenes were written and what little plot there was left me confused and unsatisfied across all routes. I guess Hiro was my favourite in the end caue I just found him the most likable. It's possible that people with different tastes than me are fine with this game and don't mind the part where none of the endings are happy and none of the guys are really that happy about getting fucked outside of Hiro and Maki near the end of their routes but it didn't do it for me.

>> No.24208946

>>24207131
That's the problem with blank slate style MCs. They have to be a particular breed of stupid and passive to allow for all the exposition and story developments.

I definitely do appreciate MCs who have personalities though. It's harder to pull off, but when it works it's infinitely better than endless 'eh, nandatte?' style MCs.

>> No.24209663

>>24207042
Fuck off back to /v/ retard. Traps are not transexuals and they have always been popular

>> No.24209986

>>24207008
>going to reddit

I want covid crossboarders to leave

>> No.24211445

>>24207008
You didnt even mention their biggest problem, which is the flood of ugly evn garbage that they eat up shamelessly.
>>24208946
When nips write stronger than usual heroines they're good and never really the dont need no man strongwoman westshits like.

>> No.24211601

I always got the impression that EOP otome fans elsewhere mostly went for trashy mobile games rather than EVNs. No one actually plays those EVNs, everyone just wants to make one.

>> No.24212148

>>24207008
>yuri routes
I really like friendship routes, but yuri in otome always feel out of place to me. In any case, are they even that common outside of OELVN? Moreover despite how they name themselves I don't see OELVN as "otome with yuri", but more of it own "bisexual romance" genre.

>> No.24212242

>>24212148
The only reason I want Yuri routes in otome is because actual yuri games are shit and otome gives me what I want. It's not like yuri route existing would shit on the romance with guys, you can just skip it, just like you're doing with the guy you don't like

>> No.24212340
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24212340

The best MCs are bisexual MCs

>> No.24212480

>>24212340
This is the good type of yuri, I want to self insert as a pure cute girl getting seduced by a dominant older girl.

>> No.24212601

>yuri route existing would shit on the romance with guys
It shits on the MC, making her bisexual

>> No.24212658

>>24212601
Only if you're self inserting retard with no taste

>> No.24212721

>>24212601
Girls can love girls just like boys can love boys. Yuri routes are fine.

>> No.24212739

>>24212658
Do you really play otome games and not self-insert?

>> No.24212783

>>24212721
Yuri routes are very fine in yuri games

>> No.24212846

>>24212739
I rly don't. There are games with much more freedom in character customization if I wanted to roleplay or make literally me. Otoge are for boy meets girl pure love stories with a generous side of melodrama or suffering.

>> No.24212894

>>24212739
Not that guy but I personally dislike self-inserting into characters. I'd rather be a filthy voyeur and watch the well-defined protagonist stumble into hot guy after hot guy.

>> No.24212909

>>24212739
I do it, but where it makes sense to do so: Tokimemo where the heroine is literally a blank state and R18 drama cds with particular fetishes where (You) are the mc.
For the rest of the games, I just enjoy the plot and seeing the characters fall in love. How can you even self-insert as the character who has a personality of her own, whose entire "race" is dead and who as the only surviving member of her kind with special abilities to summon the sun, is supposed to breed with others? Decent otome come with characters who have personalities and stories of their own.

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>>24212739
Can watch as a spectator and self-insert at the same time because I am a human with functioning imagination

>> No.24213637

>>24212601
Incest and bestiality is where I draw the line. Yuri, BL, het, traps, SM literally everything else is fine by me. I figured you kinda have to be an open-minded person to even be into this niche hobby.

>> No.24213654

>>24212739
I treat vns as a manga/anime where I can choose where the story goes. It's infinitely more preferable to have a good strong MC with a character than a bland, faceless "something" imo

>> No.24213671

>>24212783
Or you can just ignore a route you don't like and not play it. It doesn't make the MC bi per se since there's no "canon" in vns

>> No.24213731

>>24213637
Cringe and brothercuckerpilled

>> No.24213767

>>24213731
Can't read incest without selfinserting and it makes me sick to my stomach. Really disgusting.

>> No.24213817

>>24213767
What a sick fuck. It's all about your 2d brother eating your nails and body hair he can find in the bathroom

>> No.24213836

>>24213817
Ok thanks, I'm gonna go puke now, bye

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24213839

embrace the incestpill

>> No.24213858

>>24213839
More like a mental illness in this case, however I like both so I'm going to fuck Toya oniisan!

>> No.24213881

>>24213858
For real though what's actually happening when Sayo and Toya 'fuck' in the tower at the end of his route? If a rando without whatever sixth sense lets you see the illusions walked in would it just be Sayo furiously masturbating stark naked or what?

>> No.24213952

>>24213881
When I played I couldn't stop laughing at the implication of her masturbating to death. That and the suicide threats "FUCK YOU MY TULPA BF IS REAL GET OUT GET THE FUCK OUT REEE" what a treasure.

>> No.24213955

What we actually need is more male characters getting fucked hard by the heroine and losing their mind from pleasure (no strap-on or anal). Get the masochist shit outta here.

>> No.24213980

>>24212846
>>24212894
>>24212909
>>24213654
With some exceptions otome games have very tropey low-level romance writing. What's the point seeing some girl kabedoned for the 1000th time if not for thrill of self-insertion?

>> No.24213994

>>24213955
Get inside the cage, whore
>>24213952
Since it's shinigami to mental illness time, please tell me if she managed to fuck the ghost boy? Or was that a threesome between her, him and the megane guy?
Saya is a true chad, how can other main characters compare

>> No.24213998

>>24213952
God I loved that scene, the slow realisation as the game goes on that you're playing as a complete lunatic could not be replicated.

>> No.24214064

>>24213955
Do you mean things like riding and leglock? It is indeed very hot.

>> No.24214070

>>24213955
>What we actually need is more male characters getting fucked hard by the heroine and losing their mind from pleasure

So like a monster girl game but from the monster girl's perspective? Tbh I'd play that.

>> No.24214094

>>24213955
I approve of this message

>> No.24214129

To be honest I do love Sayo, with basically every other 'traumatised' MC the trauma doesn't make them offputting to other people in a way that actual mentally ill people are, it just makes them shy and extra hardworking or some bullshit. Sayo starts screaming about her whore mother in public places and has an imaginary tulpa BF/brother which she has imaginary sex with.

>> No.24214150

>>24213980
For the ones where she spits in his face or offers to fuck or anything in between that shows more personality than n-nani o////o. I like watching love bloom between two entertaining characters, even if it's covered in tropey anime cliche flavor. Its comforting. I dont like adult romance novels because they are too reminiscent of 3DPD, which is not cute or funny or entertaining to me.

>> No.24214169

>>24213980
If I wanted some 3deep5you I'd read war and peace. Since I want just some porn with hot guys and many routes/choices this will do. I'm not a shallow person just honest.

>> No.24214180

>>24214064
That, and stuff like forcing the big bad boy to eat her out or she'll tell everyone that he wasted class trip funds for gambling.

>> No.24214276

>>24214129
Pretty much this, I got surprised when she started screaming in the hospital the way she did, you could actually feel she had issues, unlike the usual
>but I'm a bakemono/have a crippling trauma..
>It's ok heroine chan, your smile is very charming I love you
>you are my only issue now babe

>> No.24214335

>>24214129
Agreed, the feeling >>24213998
describe makes the vn quite memorable. I wish there was something where the reason for the large amount of LIs is expressed in MC's personality, like if she was desperate for the attention/cock of any man bc childhood trauma. In bakarina/hamehura Maria is actually like this but it's never brought up again.

>> No.24214785

Shinigami to Shoujo is probably the only otome game I consider a 10/10 and would even think about recommending to someone not already interested in otome. It's pretty interesting just as a VN.

>> No.24214878

>>24214785
>PSP
>No english
...

>> No.24214898

>>24214878
MTL and text hooking tools are there for you. There's also 1,5 route translated in that translation app

>> No.24214929

>>24201360
This game series was very cute and easy to read. Dark Knight is best boy for being fun to tease.

>> No.24215033

>>24214898
>>24214929
I remember 10 or more years ago I was reading Roy-san Jiken Desu BL game with one of those translation hook programs. I sadly don't have the time and diligence for this anymore.

>> No.24215231

>>24214898
>MTL
End yourself.

>> No.24215261

>>24215231
You first, lazy retard

>> No.24215298

>>24215261
>lazy retard
That's you though?

>> No.24215352

>>24215298
>(You)
Someone who's actually learning the language would know that text hook, looking up stuff in jisho and DeepL is the usual practice, but a lazy piece of shit like you would obviously be too retarded to do that.

>> No.24215374

>>24215352
>text hooking=MTL
Looking up stuff you dont know in jisho is nothing like reading an MTL

>> No.24215441

>>24215352
You're the lazy one. You haven't learned your basic kanji and stroke order to look up words, so you fall back on mtl and text hooking shit. I hope you enjoy looking up 50 words per minute because you couldn't sit down and study for an hour a day.

>> No.24215560

>>24213637
>claims to be open-minded for this hobby
>draws the line at incest
Yeah, you‘re not going to have a fun time.

>> No.24215644

>>24213637
but it's fine if they aren't actually related and only grew up thinking of each other as family, right?

>> No.24215653

Why do people think you have to be open-minded for otome games? They are the most basic instinctive "uga buga man dominates woman" schlock straight out of last centuries women novels.

>> No.24215691

>>24215653
Maybe you have to be open-minded about how fucking stupid they can be.

>> No.24215757

>>24215653
I unironically enjoy "woah mc chan you can't just pat my head or invite me over for some food I'm a man too y'know haha I might lose control and pin you down and rape you and you'll have to raise my 8 babies be careful sweetie" I'm a little bit ashamed but it's just good shit I think.

>> No.24215796

>>24215441
>noooo, jerking off to my pixel porn is a serious business you're not doing it right
My sides. What autistic hellhole did you crawl out from?
>>24215374
And? Can you read? I said text hooks, MTL and jisho. Learning the language and taking effort to understand the game in japanese is fine.
Even if someone MTLs the entire thing like a retard that's still more effort that whining about being an EOP who has nothing to play.

>> No.24215870

>>24215560
I don't think so, I haven't seen too many incest vns. Also I already said that my mind automatically selfinserts when it's incest (something that doesn't happen otherwise) and the thought of fucking any of my relatives is extremely disgusting.
>>24215644
I guess it's a bit less disturbing yes. Still not a route I'd play willingly.

>> No.24215878

>>24215757
Yeah, it's normal and even innate to be attracted to this fantasy

>> No.24215901

>>24215653
You don't "have to". But anon was complaining about the possibility of having a yuri route in their otome. That is a bit strange like if you don't like it just don't choose this path it doesn't make the game any worse.

>> No.24215911

>>24215870
I get it kinda, I can be down with broxsis but since I have a sister I'm not really interested in sisxsis.

>> No.24215914

>>24215757
I guess Chinese manhwa's where between hate and love there are a couple of rapes were right all along then.. really makes me think

>> No.24215956
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24215956

Started this cause anons were talking about it and the art seemed nice. Gotta love some mana transfer bullshit.

>> No.24216015

>>24215901
If for someone yuri ruins the game, then it's the truth for them. I don't see the point to insist that it is strange, it's really just a preference. People drop games for less.

>> No.24216086

>>24216015
Fair enough. Well that was just my opinion on the topic.

>> No.24216127
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24216127

Is it possible to disable rapidly blinking blue square in Amnesia:Memories?

>> No.24216175
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24216175

What a garbage lip syncing

>> No.24216192

>>24216175
It was made in 2011 cut it some slack

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24216202

>>24213955
funny you mention that

>> No.24216278
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24216278

Seriously, no common route?

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24216281

>>24215757

>> No.24216519

>>24211601
This is mostly true, but that's also because most "otome" games just went mobile. PC-game VN format is kinda dead nowadays.

>> No.24216578

Isn't one of the main purposes of otome games to fuck a hot character? EVNs have hideous characters and seem to want to stick to "realistic american" personalities. Who would willingly play a game about fucking an american Quasimodo?

>> No.24216646

>>24216578
Judging by how EVNs are doing, nobody.

>> No.24216713

Imagine if rape fantasy was replaced with more shota

>> No.24216718

>>24205021
Ok so I finished Hiroyuki's route. Enjoyed the story BUT there are only bad ends rip
I don't mind bad endings with a story but to have only bad endings is too much for my fragile psyche
Not sure how to approach other routes. Knowing there will only be bad ends it's going to be tough.

>> No.24216732

>>24216519
Mobile ""gaming"" is cancer and shouldn't exist. Also why would you lie about PC vns being dead? That's quite obviously not true.

>> No.24216815

>>24215901
Except when you're a completionist, or the game gives you extras when you 100% it, or when it's the type where only playing all the routes gives the full picture of the story.

>> No.24216901

>>24216713
Imagine if you had rape fantasies with shotas

>> No.24216931

>>24215796
Too bad StS isn't porn and you actually have to know what you're reading

>> No.24216957

>>24216713
Imagine if there were shota blge then I might actually want to read some. Dont say enzai.

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24216970

>>24216957
Well, there are shota options in some older games. But most recent releases stick to adults.

>> No.24217004

>>24216931
>Nooo you must read my japanese games the way I tell you to. Actually you must have N1 to do it
Half of it has been translated and so there's less work to do. But it's still could be understood with DeepL and looking up kanji in jisho. But keep seething for no reason, autist.

>> No.24217113

>>24216202
Aw yeah. I liked that pairing and their happy ending too.

>> No.24217169

>>24216957
Of course not. I say Shounen-tachi no Byoutou

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