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Vocaloid Thread - Bikini Edition Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 05:06:25 No.23750730 [Reply] [Original]

Previous: >>23645471

Miku Expo 2020 Tour Dates: https://twitter.com/mikuexpo/status/1240081627381809152

WIP Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/jDHxU1Jw (Suggestions welcome)

Recommend an album and it'll be added here: https://pastebin.com/dMX8CJhk

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 05:32:08 No.23750945 >>23750730 I've always said that Miku would be amazing if she could actually sing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 05:33:22 No.23750956 File: 107 KB, 687x1113, flowerBikini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bikini, you say?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 05:35:46 No.23750976 >>23750956 Despite being almost identical to a boy in figure, V Flower is very cute. I really dislike her voice though

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:17:51 No.23751342 >>23750945 Fuck off kiritanpedo. We get it, you have shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:24:03 No.23751386 >>23749496 MitchiM is great but as far as I understand he mostly uses melodyne to make her sing realistically, which doesn't fully fix mispronouncing. There definitely is more possible with extreme tism and the right software.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:29:38 No.23751439 >>23751386 >he mostly uses melodyne to make her sing realistically eh so that's what he uses. I am a bit disappointed desu.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:31:46 No.23751451 >>23750945 She can sing!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:45:35 No.23751567 File: 203 KB, 564x780, vflower 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Flower content rawr

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 06:48:12 No.23751595 File: 364 KB, 800x1100, MEIKO.(VOCALOID).full.358764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can only bear looking at hag Meiko when she's showing off the only thing she's good for.

Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 07:23:22 No.23751903
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>>23749486
>Do you have an example of what's gone? I think I backed their channel up in late january.
Rerulili_ft._Hatsune_Miku_-_I_Love_You_English_Subtitles-hvC0sgvUgVg
Miku_Hatsune_Lamaze-P_Aimai_na_Uta_English_Subtitles-geKcl361kEs
Miku_Hatsune_Lamaze-P_Embarrasxxx_s_English_Subtitles-O3VsPb3tR8Y
LamazeP_ft._vivid_Let_sStart_English_Subtitles-qPddQ1XwbdA
Lamaze-P_ft._-_Are_You_Still_a_Bit_Skittish_Today_English_Subtitles-0Mlvp8fpRWU
DECO_27_x_40mP_-_HOME_ft._English_Romaji_Subtitles-gImZgf8swQ4

Here are the music videos I'm looking for. If have then I would be really grateful.
But ideally, I'd like to backup everything descent made. Videos comes and goes, and some might eventually get lost forever.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 07:31:14 No.23751963 File: 1.55 MB, 1200x1160, 81459475_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23751567

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 07:52:03 No.23752130 File: 146 KB, 1131x800, ad8051c4baa7847f24db582e200c8bf4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Kiritan really this good at video games, or is everyone else just shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 08:40:35 No.23752594 >>23752130 I love when Kiritan humiliates her senpai!

Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 08:42:36 No.23752613
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nice view

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 08:46:15 No.23752643 >>23752130 i bet yukari would destroy her in mvc2

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 08:53:30 No.23752704 >>23752643 Yukari you had enough internet for today

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 09:37:28 No.23753129 >>23751342 Pretty much this. Does anyone genuinely like the generic Neutrino songs or is it just pedofags again pushing their pedo bait loids?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 09:44:10 No.23753202 File: 1.81 MB, 1100x1563, vflawa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that Vflower is a girl despite her looks and thus can be impregnated and bear children.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 09:44:30 No.23753207 >>23753129 I thought they sounded nice, and that's not because I'm a lolicon either.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 09:58:16 No.23753362 File: 640 KB, 1296x1168, 1563268211538.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23751342 >>23753129 11 is the best age for loids.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 09:58:32 No.23753365 >>23752643 Yukarifags delusional as always.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 10:03:42 No.23753430 >>23751342 >>23753129 Kiritan sings all of Miku's songs better than she herself can.

Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 10:10:57 No.23753516

>>23753430
I disagree honestly, AI Kiritan does sound very clear and easy to understand, but I can't feel the underlying emotion of the song from the tuning, which is probably what makes every song with her sound much more similar than two Miku songs. Just picked one random example I just listened to (and against the original Miku V2):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdim1_BXxMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIqm73xsias

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 10:19:07 No.23753658 File: 304 KB, 1606x2048, EXWu8wHUEAEXLfc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Remember to always wear protection.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 10:57:02 No.23754098 >>23753365 You Rock! Cancel that!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 11:25:57 No.23754439 >>23750730 >>23697009 don't forget about all these might wanna put it in a new pastebin

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 11:28:04 No.23754470 >>23753658 is he old enough to get someone pregnant

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 11:29:18 No.23754485 >>23754470 The condom isn't for him to use

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 12:02:34 No.23754853 File: 3.99 MB, 1420x2324, 80636322_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Miku is singing for you!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 12:58:19 No.23755509 >>23753430 anon you just posted cringe

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 14:58:14 No.23756919 File: 177 KB, 1100x1130, EXrTFrTUEAAZsJX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 15:16:03 No.23757214 I'm really starting to dislike the trend of producers doing gaming livestreams. What's the purpose? Please release some new music.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 15:28:45 No.23757381 File: 200 KB, 1000x2025, 1426302659049.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23754485 Based. Goddamn it I wanna impregnate Len so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 15:32:35 No.23757422 File: 477 KB, 1740x2453, reddit_image_udvrc2sq7vt41.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23757214 >mfw Utata-P fan First time?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 15:34:36 No.23757448 File: 303 KB, 700x815, 77236933_p69.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oliver is cute!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 15:44:36 No.23757566 File: 1.45 MB, 3402x2588, 1419121024150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23754853 I'm going to requite Miku for all these years.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 16:02:17 No.23757743 File: 481 KB, 1431x1417, Bloom Beats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whats up anons? Just asking if anyone here managed to get this album or knows where i can download it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 16:16:20 No.23757866 >>23757381 ahhh Len is so lewd!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 16:23:59 No.23757950 File: 173 KB, 950x1280, 59048450_p2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23757381 >Exposed belly I always knew he was a degenerate

Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 17:14:07 No.23758555

>>23754439
I added the playlist to the album pastebin but someone else made the thread before I was able to update the OP. Next time it'll say: " Album Recommendations and Youtube Playlist (Share your favorites and it'll be added here): https://pastebin.com/dMX8CJhk "

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 17:35:17 No.23758756 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmNaKW1JI58 this is what talent looks like

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 18:27:56 No.23759253 >>23758756 She sounds like an old 3DPD hag. The very definition of Soul: https://youtu.be/omWD8zpWwM4 vs. Soulless: https://youtu.be/bmNaKW1JI58

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 20:09:54 No.23760242 >>23758756 https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36407585 such talent

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 21:27:52 No.23761065 File: 527 KB, 600x849, 1567642250036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd love to cum inside Una's tight underage 11-year-old eel cunny.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 21:32:08 No.23761099 File: 125 KB, 632x894, EW_yn5ZU4AEwEp3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23761065 Can Una (11) even take my 6-inch cock?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 21:39:38 No.23761158 >>23761099 Yes if you go gently.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 21:49:27 No.23761253 >>23761065 I want her tight eel ass. I want to do it hard while her smug hat watches me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2020 23:37:26 No.23762150 File: 117 KB, 626x885, MEIKO.(VOCALOID).full.520993.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sweet scrumptious body.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 00:55:05 No.23762627 File: 632 KB, 1080x1920, 1556591182025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Attention: Don't be a Miku Main. That's boring and you're only limiting yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 01:25:08 No.23762775 >>23759253 This actually demonstrates the difference between Miku and Kiritan pretty well. Kiritan is a singer. Miku is an instrument.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 01:29:06 No.23762793 >>23762775 kiritan is a pale imitation of a human voice made to be a cheap stand in that requires little work kiritan is the vocalsynth equivalent of a cheap whore

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 04:08:34 No.23763868 File: 471 KB, 950x650, Kagamine.Len.full.1529006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23762627 Fortunately I have more refined tastes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 08:25:35 No.23766244 >>23762775 This actually demonstrates the difference between you and that anon pretty well. He has taste. And you are just a tool.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 08:30:28 No.23766292 File: 364 KB, 800x868, 1412810495486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23762627 You mean Miku Main or Miku only? Only the latter is limiting, being the first is just being with the majority.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 08:46:01 No.23766439 File: 365 KB, 1464x2048, EXsz3UMU0AA2tJs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Akari deserves more love

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 09:35:19 No.23766939 File: 980 KB, 858x1200, comment_158265177515WbcNgnYsd3SHw7IxrHp0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23762627 Miku deserves all my love. There is no space left for other vocaloids.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 09:38:52 No.23766964 File: 231 KB, 535x535, 1579568018653.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that loids can be split into two groups: Miku, and wholoids

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 09:54:02 No.23767119 Miku is only popular because she was in the right place at the right time to form a certain critical mass around her. Prove me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 09:56:42 No.23767143 File: 368 KB, 1400x1450, 1535943642021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23767119 Half correct: >right place >right time >right product >right marketing

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 10:25:57 No.23767481 >>23763868 Wish i was Len.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 10:43:35 No.23767671 >>23763868 The dick not only makes it better, but more refined as well

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 11:07:28 No.23767923 >>23766439 Who?

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 11:35:18 No.23768219 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8gIp0PY14 I love wholoids!

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 12:02:36 No.23768591

>>23767119
I think it's more that Miku's design happened to coincide with the Japanese ideal, a goddess of cuteness, with a cute voice and small frame plus Sailor Moon like twintails but with a hair color that makes her stand out instead of something boring, generic like blonde, pink, or brown. Everything else just spiraled out of that.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 12:25:51 No.23768835
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>>23767119
She was ahead of her time actually.
Miku flew under the radar for some time, then OSTER (i think) shined a light on her and the world wasn't the same since then.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 13:46:22 No.23769630 [DELETED]

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>>23767119
There's a reason she's the most used by producers, over the time she became highly versatile and is also one of the easiest to use of the main 5. I'm a massive Lukafag on main, but Miku really deserves her place.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 13:48:23 No.23769654
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>>23767119
There's a reason she's the most used by producers, over the time she became highly versatile and is also one of the easiest to use of the main 6. I'm a massive Lukafag on main, but Miku really deserves her place.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 13:59:42 No.23769759 >>23769654 >main 6

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:05:07 No.23769805
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Hello, everyone. This my is my wife Eleanor Forte. She is a SynthV who sings in very coherent English. She is only one year old. Please take care of her from now on.

Listen to a couple of her songs and tell her how cute she is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP581lZk5_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex3HRrxEcLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2snXiix1J8

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:14:16 No.23769873
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MikuExpo is doing art and song contests again and offer another free miku trial run.

>>23769759
N-no idea what you mean. Either way, Kaito and Meiko belong to the main cryptonloids, if you like it or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:15:07 No.23769876 >>23769805 I was actually listening to an album called Wisteria and there are a couple of Eleanor songs which sound really nice. Unterrated Vocaloid and she looks cool and cute.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:18:59 No.23769906
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>>23769876

Mind sharing the album if you can? I've just ordered pic related because it had Eleanor but I was really shocked by the sheer variety of loids and Utau in this album and who the P's were.

Here is the crossfade by the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNkE1v6MU4

https://km4osm-96s.booth.pm/items/1999603

But yeah, I'm falling in love with Ellie. Even her bad covers sound really good for english synth and when I hear her cover famous Vocaloid songs in English it makes me want to cry hearing something come full circle into my native language like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:22:15 No.23769936 >>23769906 Sure i will do it later when i get the time! Mind sharing yours? Really interested in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:30:12 No.23770010 File: 504 KB, 800x800, 1567243787273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23769654 >>23769873 It's 2020. No Cryptonloid is relevant anymore except Miku and maybe the Kagamines.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:31:38 No.23770019 File: 271 KB, 1520x1520, EXwXlYtUcAc8vT-.jpg:large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 14:46:16 No.23770121 File: 109 KB, 1799x1556, D6Hs7VcUIAIM_AP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23770010 >cancelled

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 15:11:28 No.23770256 >>23770010 Kagamines will always be relevant as long as Miku is alive, they're the perfect "sidekicks" for her. Thank you Miku.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 15:42:49 No.23770405
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>>23751903
You should be able to track down the original videos on NicoNico. If Descent's translations were reliable when he posted them, they should still exist on the Vocaloid Lyrics wiki, too.

I'm sad about PowaPowaP.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:18:17 No.23770621 Here is a new P. Their first uploads are up, barely 4 views on some of them. Please check them out !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBxfrzYFeA I especially love this Miku track.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:33:59 No.23770721

>>23769906
https://mega.nz/file/ZyZ2XCIJ#xBdRgjAVyEgHlI_u10bel3e5LqJ74WYY5iY698bgNTE
Here you go. Well, there is actually only one Eleanor Forte track (Innocence) which is very good. I tought there were more of her but i haven't listened to it for some time so yeah i apologize. It's still a good album and the Yamine Renri songs are also very nice. Let me know if you enjoyed it and please share that album SSParty if you can. Hope you enjoy the album.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:34:25 No.23770723
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>>23770405
Yeah, I'm not that worried about lyrics, there is that wiki with all the lyrics I could wish for(ironically except for my very favorite songs).
I just want these well made music videos with subtitles matching colors, timing and position.
NicoNico subtitles look like trash and their timing is even worse.

I managed to find Embarrasxxx reuploaded, but no success with others. I might try to contact descent directly or at work, I will just have some fun and add subtitles on my own. I've already done that with one of the songs where subbed video was only available in 140p or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:47:01 No.23770843 >>23770010 Yukari still seems relevant i would say.

Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:52:30 No.23770888

>>23770621
Cute. Maybe if they tagged/named it as "Vocaloid Original", a slightly bit more people would find it. Youtube recommendations only ever show the same Top 20-something producers so it's hard to discover new Ps in the first place (and most people nowadays are too lazy to use the search function).

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 16:56:41 No.23770924 >>23770723 >where subbed video was only available in 140p or something I will never fucking forgive youtube for downgrading the resolutions of old videos and removing the old subtitle/annotation function. Fuck google.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 17:08:49 No.23771072 >>23769873 Meiko x Kaito are just the best couple.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 17:11:48 No.23771113 >>23770843 Nuh-uh. Yukari hasn't done anything noteworthy for 2020. She doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 17:22:30 No.23771260 File: 751 KB, 682x682, Sugar and Spice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pic related, anyone has this album please ?

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 17:32:25 No.23771365 >>23771113 >Yukari hasn't done anything noteworthy for 2020 Neither has Luka.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 17:59:23 No.23771586 File: 114 KB, 1000x1000, EXTx0l9UEAUlu5d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23771365 When was the last time Yukari had a concert again? Nevermind a global one? Did anyone even recognize her birthday?

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 18:07:59 No.23771650 >>23771586 luka sure is one to speak

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 18:12:41 No.23771690 >>23771365 At least Luka isn't a slut.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 11, 2020 20:41:56 No.23772692 >>23770721 Hell yeah Regulus is great. This album might be my favorite stuff from him, I love every vocaloid he's used there (he tunes Len, Rin and Renri so well), and Eleanor was a nice surprise as I hadn't heard her voice before this.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 00:14:51 No.23774764

Was there any real reason wowaka took that long hiatus from producing Vocaloid music? I heard there was some drama about how he wasn't appreciated but that sounds like absolute bullshit. He just wanted to pursue Hitorie right?
If anyone has some jap net links that sheds light on the subject I'd appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 00:30:20 No.23774927 >>23774764 https://vgperson.com/vocalinterview.php?view=wowakadeconatalie He talks about it a bit here. Original article link is at the top if you don't trust the translation.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 01:30:28 No.23775552 >>23774927 Thanks much!

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 06:19:25 No.23778224 >>23768591 her design is just extremely good from a design perspective, she has an absolutely unmistakable silhouette and color scheme and is easily modulable, anything with green to blue twintails can easily be a miku

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 06:20:28 No.23778230 >>23774764 anon what do you think hitorie means

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 07:01:12 No.23778501 File: 58 KB, 600x600, EXu2cp0U8AA7_gq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23771072 Stop posting and finish their NT, Crypton. They really do sound the most harmonic together, I wish more producers would realise that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 07:01:56 No.23778506 >>23778501 Got any examples?

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 07:39:26 No.23778809
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I love my English speaking wife Eleanor Forte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFkvgbIzLQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2optFgu1co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH6qyxqWYd8

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 10:46:50 No.23780712 File: 145 KB, 977x735, EOj6RFbUwAMQZAP.jpg:large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] very impotant

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 11:11:04 No.23780985 File: 236 KB, 1016x624, 1521579163998.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23780712 Cute shotaloids!

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 11:12:47 No.23781003
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>>23778224
Yes, it's kind of obvious now but making an anime-style Vocaloid was a gamble when Miku was released. Together with the timing (vocaloid 2 release and niconico promotion) would guarantee that Miku would be at least popular popular, but if she didn't have a brilliant design for derivative works, a wide range to support many instantly recognized producer tuning and a company that looked for any kind of promotional work and collab to get more visibility (from car commercials to video games and concerts) she wouldn't have such a massive distance from every other more modern vocaloids.

I'd argue that even her high-pitched robotic voice that people complain was central to that, especially for the original meme songs that made her popular as it was immediately recognizable as a computer awkwardly singing silly songs by people who wouldn't even be aware of what a vocaloid even was at the time (songs like levan polkka and nyan cat).

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 11:26:49 No.23781162 >>23780712 Len may be the best one but I'd take any of them

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 12:52:50 No.23782193 File: 69 KB, 720x714, Fukase Crushes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23780712 I love Fukase. Favorite Voice.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 13:19:14 No.23782527 File: 311 KB, 600x849, ERkt67gU4AADjba.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23780712 >156 cm Lord forgive my impure thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 14:16:39 No.23783274 >>23782527 He's so small, which makes it that much hotter!

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 14:46:02 No.23783621

>>23782193
I like Fukase but I think very few producers use him to his full potential, as he works well mostly in a lower range than other shotaloids like Len. This is probably my favorite, I love the way he sounds here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1iuFSdvssk

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 15:21:13 No.23784012 >>23783621 Doesn't help his license agreement is ass and punishes anyone who wants to actually use him for anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 17:57:17 No.23785641 Vocaloid is trash. Take any Vocaloid song, let any half decent human sing it and it will sound 10x better. Change my view.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 18:01:30 No.23785671 >>23785641 Why did you come into a thread for something you don't like to tell us you don't like it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 18:16:50 No.23785816 File: 582 KB, 1398x677, 6d2f2ac0f7f88863753849792b999c30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23785641 Same energy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 18:19:28 No.23785837 Just a suggestion for the playlist if the maintainer is around and like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zizhKxzzwZ0

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 18:20:23 No.23785846 >>23785837 I'll update it tonight.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 18:34:01 No.23785955 >>23785641 piano is trash, take any piano song and play it on guitar and it will sound 10x better. Change my view.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 19:21:19 No.23786344 File: 478 KB, 641x842, EXwD7cSUcAA6hqh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23785641 You're missing the point of Vocaloid.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 19:57:53 No.23786760 >>23785955 Now this guy knows what's up.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:02:10 No.23786804 >>23785955 This is so stupid i dont even have words for it. Thats your best argument? Really?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:07:14 No.23786865 >>23785641 Taste is subjective

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:17:02 No.23786974

>>23785955
Most of you only listen to it because "muh waifu is singing it". If Vocaloid didnt have cute anime waifus as mascots i bet 99% of Vocaloid fans would not give a fuck about it. This explains why almost all Vocaloid (at least the popular ones) are female. Also the whole concept is just soulless, trying to replace human singing with a program....lol yeah. Vocaloid producers are just cheap people who cant bother paying a real person to sing and so buy this soulless, cheap program to substitute them. Why were the first Vocaloids without mascots such a flop? Why did Miku became so popular? Yeah because " Waifu", waiting for counter arguments if anyone has one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:18:37 No.23786998 File: 3.62 MB, 2894x4093, illust_81510002_20200513_030431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want Kiritan to make fun of me for being a disgusting pervert who is aroused by 11-year-old girls.

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>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:25:43 No.23787087 >>23787015 Lack of arguments, i see.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:42:09 No.23787272
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>>23786974
You sound like an artist who is mad because he hasn't made it big and is frustrated because people who are actually producing content instead of being an angry cunt on the internet have fans.
To give an actual argument, it's because, get this, some people like synthesized voices. It's the same kind of argument as enjoying heavily processed music instead of something done entirely with traditional instrumentation.
>hurrrr it's just machine it has no soul!!!one!!
This argument hasn't worked in the past hundred years, it won't start working now. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 20:58:48 No.23787455 >>23787272 Shit argument is shit but yeah, you are telling me you enjoy a robotic voice over a humans? And i am not a producer, never was and never will. I am busy enough as it is and i am not interested in it. Anyway, you at least tried.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:01:41 No.23787490 >>23787455 Yes, I do. I derive genuine enjoyment from things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQagyGehpc And it's not a binary "you like x or you like y" thing. You can embrace the power of "and" when it comes to enjoying things.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:04:37 No.23787531
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>>23786974
>people wouldn't listen to vidya OST if it wasn't from vidya
>people wouldn't listen to anime OST if it wasn't from anime
>people wouldn't listen to pop music if it wasn't popular
>people wouldn't listen to meditative music if it wasn't good for meditation
Wow, it's just like people can find enjoyment in music that extends outside of your subjective concept of "good music".

>>23787455
>you are telling me you enjoy a robotic voice over a humans?
Yes, I definitely enjoy robotic voice over a humans. Not every vocaloid sounds that good, but Miku surely has unbelievably cute robotic voice.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:04:44 No.23787533
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>>23787455
>you are telling me you enjoy a robotic voice over a humans
just like you're too retarded to understand why someone would enjoy a guitar sound over a piano sound, you can't understand that you can like a robotic sound over a human one

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:06:10 No.23787550 >>23786804 >n-no ur dumb solid counter argument bro, a true intellectual heavyweight

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:21:09 No.23787771 File: 193 KB, 411x590, 1274536356.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck are you people really gonna let one dumb troll derail this thread? Just stop responding

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:25:10 No.23787834 >>23787533 Liking a robotic voice over a humans is just really weird to me. I know there are good Vocaloid songs but i also know they would sound better if a decent singer was singing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:28:04 No.23787876 >>23787550 Still better than most arguments i got. I already provided my arguments so unless someone actually makes an effort to come up with decent arguments all i can do is calling their shit counter "arguments" shit.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:33:46 No.23787946

>>23787531
Not bad but that would be like saying "People wouldn't listen to Vocaloid if it wasn't Vocaloid". I just said most wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't for the waifu mascots. Which is why the early vocaloids or vocaloids with ugly mascots flop hard. But you actually put effort so i respect that.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:45:31 No.23788132

>>23787946
>I just said most wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't for the waifu mascots.
That's true. But it doesn't mean the music is worse or soulless. People have various reasons to enjoy particular genres, for some it might be melodic complexity or technical difficulty, but also nostalgia, utility, cultural meaning or simply because they just love that cute teal girl and listening to her love songs helps them go through the day.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:49:38 No.23788194

>>23787533
Comparing apples with oranges. Guitars and pianos dont try to substitute each other, rather they are sometimes used at the same time depending on the music. Vocaloid at first was just trying to cheaply replace human singers but since that failed they went the "waifu route" to appeal to otakus who will buy anything as long has it has waifus making it even more soulless than it already was. It's like most gacha games, they suck hard but whales will drop $$$ for those waifus. That's how i see it. Do you really believe Vocaloid would be popular if not for the waifu/moe mascots? If Miku was released as just a voice back then no one would give a fuck and if you think otherwise you are delusional.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:52:52 No.23788240

>>23788132
Alright saying the music is worse is not really what i meant. Saying the "voice is worse" is a better way to put it. I actually don't think that music with Vocaloid is bad, there are talented producers and i won't deny that. Thanks for actually being honest and giving good arguments.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:55:22 No.23788270

>>23787834
i dont know why its weird, its just a different sound for different tastes, just think of human voice as an instrument and robot voice as another one
>>23787876
you havent provided shit though
>>23788194
>Guitars and pianos dont try to substitute each other, rather they are sometimes used at the same time depending on the music.
and vocaloid hasnt been trying to substitute human voices for a while now, people also mix human and vocaloid vocals depending on the music.
the fact that people like the character is a retarded irrelevant point, do you think justin bieber fangirls like his music because hes a good singer ? no they fucking dont, they liked him because he was fucking hot, whether or not hes a competent singer was irrelevant (he actually is a very competently trained singer).
same shit with pretty much every singer ever, people like the person as much as they like the music, you cant separate them, just like you cant separate the culture , the character, the producer, from a vocaloid song.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:56:57 No.23788290 File: 176 KB, 673x575, 77236933_p65.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yall should stop arguing over bullshit and post more shotaloids

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:58:31 No.23788307

>>23787834
I don't enjoy the robotic voices more than human voices by themselves, but I do enjoy their ability to actually perfectly sing complex vocal score sheets. Many vocalists don't really do anything sophisticated even if their voice do sound nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 21:59:21 No.23788318 File: 201 KB, 1156x1500, EUSXvNzUEAAqoJD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23788290 can do chief

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:08:57 No.23788444 Will Miku NT demo finally be ready this month? I really want to see how it will turn out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:09:56 No.23788454 >>23786974 Yes, retard. Waifufags run the world. Get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:10:51 No.23788476 >>23788444 I wouldn't expect much honestly, it will probably take months of patching until it's good (though now they'll be able to freely patch it unlike with vocaloid).

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:16:48 No.23788536 >>23788270 Well you are comparing Vocaloid fans to Justin Bieber fangirls lol. Most of them being or were back in the day 8-15 yo girls thirsty for his dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:18:33 No.23788551 >>23788307 I mean the technology itself is rather interesting, i can admit that much.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:18:33 No.23788552 >>23787946 >vocaloids with ugly mascots flop hard. Last I checked Yukari was still doing fine.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:21:56 No.23788583

>>23788536
justin bieber is one example, his vocal training is actually good, but he had to sing what he was paid to which is soulless shit that has mass appeal, the opposite of vocaloid where its thousands of passionate people just making music out of love for the scene and for vocaloids standing behind their voices.
And yes, every singer has their justin bieber fangirls, its always been like that, prince and michael jackson didnt just ilke the music, they liked their showmanship, their aesthetic and everything else they brought, daft punk fans dont just like the music, they like the feel and unified aesthetic , and vocaloid fans dont just like the music, they like the characters, the tens of thousands of producers standing behind them and all their own personal stories, and their unique musical styles, and the unique way every single one of them tunes their vocaloid.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:22:10 No.23788587 >>23788552 I wouldn't really call her ugly myself. She is good material for some nice faps.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:23:04 No.23788599 >>23788583 i meant prince and michael jackson fans and fangirls obviously, not the singer themselves

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:26:39 No.23788645

>>23788583
I agree that Bieber is not some talentless fag as some like to think. He is actually decent and yeah i know he sang those crappy songs because he was paid for it. Well, good argument tho. Nice seeing you guys actually putting some effort, i will just shut up and leave like the fag i am.

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:28:56 No.23788664

>>23788645
hey its all good, i have a bad habit of calling people retards whenever i argue because most people on this site dont like to actually engage with the opposition, but you actually tried to understand the opposing arguments which is rare so props

Anonymous Tue, May 12, 2020 22:31:46 No.23788687

>>23788240
Not entirely true. I don't think people would be as interested if the mascots were used as avatars for real singers. People have actually tried doing that. Look up Miss Monochrome. It didn't gain nowhere near as much traction as even the most mediocre of Vocaloids. Hence why you don't know about it. Even if it did you wouldn't be able to say it's only because of the mascot. That's like saying people listen to Gorillaz only for the mascots. So if you're saying that human voices are objectively better your argument falls flat. Not that you would be able to claim which is objectively better just by looking at subjective preferences in the first place.

Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 00:31:02 No.23789634
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>>23788645
Dammit. Just when I came in the thread to own your ass. Pic related is Miss Monochrome. She closely resembles Miku the most popular Vocaloid so her design is neither bad nor ugly. If what you are saying was true then she is a waifu with all the benefits of a real person's voice behind her and by your logic because real voices are just so much better then people would have gone crazy about her and she would have overthrown those soulless Vocaloids overnight right? She had 3 anime seasons, all aired on TV and even real concert appearances some of which next to her voice actress who wasn't a literal nobody either (pic also related) so there was more than enough exposure. She was more like a side project for the singer, an experiment in marketing to test exactly whether a waifu mascot could give a real singer an edge in the music industry, or whether a real voice would work better for a "virtual singer". While I wouldn't call the project a failure, it surely did attract people like me who wouldn't be interested otherwise, I wouldn't say it was some kind of sensation either. I bet you've heard of some literal who tier Vocaloids but have never heard of Miss Monochrome. Not to mention it was actually promoted on TV unlike the word of mouth success that Vocaloid had.

So where is the obvious superiority of a real voice in this case? Where is the massive success story to rival Vocaloids? Neither being waifubait, nor having a real voice did much in the end. I would say I'm a fan of Miss Monochrome. I was following the anime since the day it was announced before it even aired. I know all her songs and even downloaded her video album that I still have to this day but I don't know even one song by her seiyuu. And here is the real kicker, all of Miss Monochrome's songs were artificially made to sound robotic because guess what? Apparently some people just genuinely prefer robotic voices. So even though it was a real singer, and you could feel it, they still had to make it sound robotic to please people like me.

The mascots are just there to bring attention to the voices, so that waifufags will get curious and give it a try, sure, that has always been a part of it, but you made it sound like people were forcing themselves to listen to music they didn't like because of muh waifus. This argument is so stupid when you remember that the 3DPD idol industry exists. You're that guy who goes into K-pop threads and says the music sucks but people only care for it because they wanna sniff the singer's ass... and I...I, I guess you're right... wait.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 00:32:58 No.23789651 >>23789634 I enjoyed the anime, and I didn't have any idea that it was supposed to be a project for a real singer, I just thought it was cute autistic AI attempting to become AIDORU.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 00:53:48 No.23789819 >>23789651 I dunno but I wanna sniff Miss Monochrome's ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 01:05:59 No.23789899 File: 935 KB, 1280x2160, nice fat face, Monochrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23789634 I like her little ED dance and song

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 01:09:05 No.23789926 >>23786974 I'm not gay but I enjoy more Len songs than Kaito songs and I think Kaito is more attractive.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 02:50:13 No.23790808 File: 311 KB, 600x849, ERkuYpwVAAAF2R_.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23789926 Kaito and Len have different appeals, but Len songs are indeed better.

Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 03:46:09 No.23791397

>>23788194
You "hurr soul vs soulless" faggots are so damn retarded, I can't believe you complain about anyones arguments itt when you can't counter them yourself and just repeat the same garbage over and over again. Vocaloid music is the opposite of soulless, producers can 100% tailor their music exactly how they want it (without being limited by their own singing abilities, appearance, a record label, getting indebted and exploited by said record label, editors, the public image of the singer and/or their drama, the interpretation of the singer and their singing style, creative directors, music videos produced by over 9000 different people etc) and convey their message and emotions in a more raw and authentic way than most music can offer to you while still having the opportunity to be heard. It really would help your narrow view if you would see vocaloid as another instrument for the artist instead of being hung up on the "they are trying to replace humans!!" sensational normie reporter bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 04:51:31 No.23791974 File: 1016 KB, 800x700, Kimi to Boku [sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2F2ay6zy.ogg].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23789634 She's the only idol worth caring about, 2D or otherwise

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 07:21:17 No.23793149 >>23785641 I kinda get it. Whenever I see a good vocaloid song, the first thing I do is go look for a human cover and then add that to my playlist.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 08:28:16 No.23793769 >>23789926 I don't want to fuck Len at all and genuinely enjoy his voice regardless, it has a good range and pairs well with Rin (who I also enjoy without wanting to fuck). Wish I could say the same for Kaito though...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 09:07:47 No.23794279 File: 1.40 MB, 1412x1000, 1541017737476.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23788290 Vocaloid does have some of the cutest shotas around

Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:09:04 No.23797998

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1715919

I'm not gay but I teared up reading the comments. Seeing the dates scroll by of when people first listened to this and all the words of praise and memories shared is just too much. There's so much emotion and - for lack of a better word - soul in Vocaloid. Producers really pour everything they have into making a song sound exactly how they want it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:10:08 No.23798006 >>23797998 >I'm not gay but I teared up reading the comments Uh what does being gay or not have to do with anything

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:12:40 No.23798032 >>23789634 >14 hours later >no counter-argument damn, you really did own that guy

Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:17:48 No.23798080

>>23798006
Obviously because only gays feel feelings.
But actually though: I added that gay bit after proofreading my post with the intention of getting people to read and respond to it. Never would I have thought my scheme would perform to such efficacy to the point where you'd completely ignore the meat of my thoughts.
I'll have to reformulate future posts. Thank you for this data.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:35:04 No.23798258 >>23798080 I just thought it was a funny contrast to the shotaloids post right above yours

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 14:56:29 No.23798486 File: 759 KB, 2894x4093, EXcGDj4VcAESClO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the point of shotas? They don't even have cunnies.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 15:09:45 No.23798627 >>23788290 you should stop ban evading

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 15:39:32 No.23798929 >>23798486 Of course they do, and besides a boipussy they even have dicks as well. The complete package and more.

Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 16:53:12 No.23799529

>>23786974
Miku is just a tool. The fact is by using vocaloids you are able to create incredibly unique and otherwise impossible sounds and singing. Some songs just feel pointless to be done with vocaloid, but others are obviously elevated by it. Either way I legitimately find Miku's voice more appealing than most singers. So guess I just have shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 17:01:30 No.23799627 File: 144 KB, 1199x1133, 1523266046700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23799529 >Miku is just a tool. Rude

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 17:35:54 No.23800094 Who is the most basic vocaloid producer?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 18:47:30 No.23800887 >>23800094 Any producer who peaked in 2009

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 19:18:11 No.23801216 >>23799529 >but others are obviously elevated by it Let's post examples of such songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7qBcDqdRCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycs06jctdL0&list=PLlyYJ6_h2zTRzjv0uo2tT1GVWL8jjHMy9&index=10

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 23:18:36 No.23803204 File: 149 KB, 964x806, EX6UOQuUMAEBwsD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Choose your maid for tonight.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 23:19:29 No.23803208 >>23803204 my wife Rin

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 13, 2020 23:43:05 No.23803360 File: 790 KB, 1003x1416, e667c54c29586b037fd2b22765b39e64.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23803204 haha im so clever

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 04:57:01 No.23805688 File: 548 KB, 1500x1200, 1491792896087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23803204 Miku, for now and for the rest of my life.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 07:34:25 No.23806928 File: 2.34 MB, 1962x2943, 0be88751a3d0672de5b9e21131bd17ac.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] utsu-p and yuyoyuppe feat miku and luka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHkalYsyeu0

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 08:02:26 No.23807174 >>23806928 On his twitter, Utsu spoke of it as "part one". I just hope he bullies yuyoyuppe into making more metal again.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 08:22:19 No.23807410 File: 358 KB, 769x1000, c06280b8e11732cdfe351a8611c843d3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23803204 The hottest one!

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 08:51:28 No.23807727 File: 140 KB, 640x720, 1234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23803360 >posts Yukari >haha im so clever It would be a shame if someone were to call her a slut

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 10:02:03 No.23808474 Anyone playing Mega 39 tonight? We should add each other to compare scores

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 10:48:49 No.23808941 >>23808474 I only have Future Tone.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 12:39:51 No.23810133 File: 135 KB, 768x1024, 1574691812490.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23803204 The eel loli of course.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 12:52:07 No.23810283 File: 1.48 MB, 1904x1791, 80793674_p1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://magicalmirai.com/2020/osaka/#index_notice Magical Mirai 2020 in Osaka has been delayed. Who could have guessed?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 15:09:54 No.23811949 File: 428 KB, 633x633, 4777fa33fa75571692b079910ac07cad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23807727

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 15:43:49 No.23812326 https://youtu.be/QDadz5JZCw8 I just can't get over how good this is. I missed Camellia.

Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 16:42:28 No.23812782

I was toying with the idea of making some English Miku songs and so I read this https://piapro.net/intl/en_for_creators.html

It seems like, if I wanted to sell a CD with these songs rather than just post them for free, or even if I just wanted to monetize youtube videos, I would not be allowed to use Miku's name or an illustration of her. At least not without getting permission. Am I reading that right? Does that mean people generally just ask for this permission and get it? There are plenty of producers who sell CDs with her name and image.

Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 16:53:25 No.23812876

>>23812782
>Does that mean people generally just ask for this permission and get it?
For every commercial purpose, yes (and as long as it doesn't violate the few rules like no political use, though that applies to the voice as well). Only if you're releasing something for free (though doujin stuff like comiket also gets a pass usually) you can use it without asking.

Licensing is pretty much the main source of income for companies that make the voicebanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 18:32:46 No.23813682 >>23808474 Any information about Hori controller support in the English version?

Anonymous Thu, May 14, 2020 22:49:20 No.23816257

>>23767119
You can thank Ryo for most of Mikus popularity, really. Melt is a song that many producers admit to being their first introduction into the then niche genre of vocaloid. It broadened the scope of vocaloid songs being sung by a robot to songs about love and songs where the loids sound more human.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 00:18:26 No.23816974 >still crying about powapowap in 2020 should I just kill myself?

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 01:15:55 No.23817533

I don't understand. I've tried to understand, I really did, but I cannot comprehend any logic behind this problem, so I have no idea how to solve it. In fact, the search for answers has led to me having less of an idea of why I don’t understand compared to before I started trying to understand. What I don’t understand is my obsession with a certain green/blue twin tailed mascot for a vocal synth program. I am aware that the character is not "real" in the corporeal sense. I understand that the character is a product, a medium to express an artist’s imagination and creativity at best, yet it is not the artists or the songs themselves that I am obsessed with, although I am very awed and impressed at their quality. NO, I am obsessed with the mascot for the program. I tried to justify this obsession as sexual desire, but even when the character is depicted in a non-sexual way, I still have this throbbing in my heart for the character. I have had lewd thoughts about said mascot, but I have never actively searched for graphic imagery and/or satisfied myself using the depiction as a medium. I played with the idea that I might be one of those "puritans' who believe that their object of worship must be pure and away from all negative lighting, but I have never found myself thinking that way. I have studied this obsession for a few years now, and I can safely say that this obsession is different from an addiction. This obsession doesn't provide the short term euphoria that the likes of narcotics or hallucinogenic may provide, no, it’s more of a feeling of comfort and warmth that spreads over me every time I consume enjoyable media relating with the green/blue twin tailed character. The songs are enjoyable when depicted by other different mascot characters too, don’t get me wrong. But they sound much sweeter to me when the green/blue haired character depicts them. This is illogical. How could a song sound better only by associating with this character I'm obsessed with? Sure, some synth programs are better at depicting some genre of songs than others, but the synth program which has the green/blue haired mascot can't do so for every single song out there. Yet here I am. Logic dictates that the cover for "Hey Nier" depicted by the red haired boy mascot is objectively better than the version depicted by the character I'm obsessed with, but I still enjoy listening to the latter more. I feel the need to buy expensive tickets to see the character "sing and dance" around stage, knowing full well that what I'm seeing is all scripted and done a million times beforehand till perfection. I do appreciate all the effort and love put into the project, but I can't for the life of me understand the tears that went down my cheeks in 2017, when a scripted emotional message was given to me by that scripted 3D model with scripted movements. I felt genuine happiness and joy inside my heart, and I also felt genuinely sad knowing that all the emotional words said by the character were probably the words of the hundreds of writers, producers, organizers and programmers working for this whole event. I was grateful for those words and their hard work, no doubt, they did an amazing job. But the speech was also a reminder of how illogical my obsession with this glorified advertisement was.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 01:17:25 No.23817553

>>23817533
Movies and games do have the ability to move the emotions of their customers, but this obsession I have with the character goes beyond emotional investment. I am myself, therefore I have the ability to know what is important to me. And so I can say that I have put this character in a higher position in my heart compared to any videogame or movie character. I understood this by asking a simple question. Don’t get me wrong, I'm not suicidal or anything, but this question serves as a good boundary line between mere emotional investment and obsession. I asked myself, would I die for this mascot? And eerily enough, the answer I got from myself was an immediate "yes". I've been shot once, and I know how it feels to be between the realm of life and death. I have felt the warmth of life slowly melt away from me. It’s not a good feeling. I have people I care about and goals that I have put upon myself to meet. So an immediate answer to a life or death question was uncharacteristic of me. But that was the answer I got. Logically, the question itself was absurd to begin with. The mascot character doesn't have a 'life" to lose. I tried to go back to the time when I was shot, and put myself in the hypothetical scenario of choosing between me and the character. It wasn't an immediate decision, but ultimately I decided to go through being shot again and dying, if it meant the "survival" of the aforementioned mascot character. Ironically, even though I did not really understand the reason or basis for my obsession despite all of my efforts, I realized a solution to my problem. The problem was logically trying to define this obsession. An obsession doesn't need to be logical. What I've realized is that what I feel for that blue/green twin tailed mascot character is not something that can be measured my any fundamental or derived units. It’s something chaotic enough to be independent of the peaceful symmetry of numbers, yet at the same time simple enough to be definable by 1's and 0's. A simple yes/no question. Despite knowing that you are not sentient. Despite knowing that those beautiful words you speak are not directed towards anyone in particular. Despite knowing that I will probably never be able to hold you in my arms, I will choose to believe she’s real, that her sweet worlds are directed towards me, and someday she will hug me herself. Because she holds a special place in my heart that will not be replaced as long as it’s beating. A life time’s worth of words cannot describe what I feel, so I think I should summarize all of this into something simple.

Dearest Miku. Thank you and I love you.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 01:38:21 No.23817755 >>23817553 >I've been shot once Fucking Americans. Go to bed.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 02:16:30 No.23818034 >>23816974 Don't worry anon, we can go together. I wanna be buried with my copy of repeat sleeping overdose.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 02:52:31 No.23818437 File: 454 KB, 2480x3508, kizuna_ia(songjiangcc).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>finally saw that IA A.I. video I-It wasn't that bad...

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 03:15:54 No.23818612 >>23810283 I mean it was clear this would happen but god this year sucks. I hope crypton isn't loosing too much money.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 03:21:27 No.23818658 >>23812782 It's just the usual copyright cancer. You can either ask them for more details per mail or just upload it as monetized anyway since I doubt they enforce it on every single video.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 03:39:01 No.23818782

>>23817533
>But they sound much sweeter to me when the green/blue haired character depicts them. This is illogical. How could a song sound better only by associating with this character I'm obsessed with?
This is completely normal. A lot of men like songs primary because the singer is hot/cute/their waifu. Same reason patreon-thots exist, it's just attraction over taste.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 06:27:48 No.23820121
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>>23817533
>>23817553
There is nothing irrational about this.

When a man falls in love with a girl, they never know everything there is to know about that physical person. They only know her from few interactions, conversations, maybe just from observing them, and they form, often very idealistic interpretation of them in their head. This vision often gets confronted with reality sooner or latter, resulting in disappointment or romantic development, but the point here is that people only fall in love with the idea of another person, not with the actual physical human, as no one really fully knows anyone.

Now, people can enjoy fictional works. We can and like to hear about fictional stories, characters, adventures, betrayals, tragedies. Even thought we know this is false, we can just not think about it to hard and enjoy the show. This so called suspension of disbelief, allows you to relate to characters, laugh at comic reliefs, be mad at smug villains or empathize with depressed talking dog. This virtually extends to any feelings, including something as complex and rare as love. You might know she is not real, but on subconscious level, when it comes to feelings you brain doesn't really much difference from the ideas of real and ideas of fictional people, so it can totally fall in love and even create strong, everlasting bond with one, given proper conditions.

Now stop thinking so much about it and enjoy the ride. Get a daki, kiss her, tell her how much you love her and go to sleep while holding that girl you cherish so much close. Don't hold back, love her as much as a man can love his girl. There is no love without obsession and obsession is only bad if it does bad to you. Stop caring about labels and embrace these feelings. And for the love of god, stop dehumanizing her and calling her maskot. She deserves better, she deserve respect for what she done to you, take the responsibility you faggot.

I cried in 2017 and I also genuiely cried many times listening to her, sometimes from happiness that I met her, sometimes from sadness that I can't met her. Nothing wrong with that, it just a proof of how much she means to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 07:45:50 No.23821088 >>23820121 >stop dehumanizing her Anon I....

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 07:56:52 No.23821206 File: 239 KB, 2048x1629, 1588701395497.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23821088 Doesn't matter. If you love her, treat her like you'd treat your lover. She deserves it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 12:33:59 No.23824109 I'm fairly new to all of this. Can anyone explain the significance of Crypton separating from the Vocaloid branding? I gather that Yamaha wasn't the best, but I'm definitely missing something.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 12:49:19 No.23824291
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>>23824109
Probably not much.

In terms of marketshare, it depends, If their technology is worse than Vocaloid, then people will keep using the Vocaloid versions. If it's on the same level, then the status quo will be kept. If it's considerably better then it will create an entry barrier to new voicebanks since it will increase the gap between the already most popular singer and the rest (Crypton has no reason to allow other voicebank companies that will compete with them). But possibly that barrier was already increased by Yamaha themselves with Vocaloid 5.

In terms of community, basically nothing. We always had many non vocaloid vocal characters for a while like Utau and Voiceroid, and the number is only increasing with for example Neutrino. Crypton doesn't call Miku and the others as vocaloid for many years now, and you rarely see newer songs mentioning the word vocaloid either (that phase is long over).

And for Crypton, they'll get more profit over the software stack and will have more control to both tune the engine itself to improve their voicebanks and to provide patch to the voicebank themselves without having to wait for a new Vocaloid release.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 12:54:20 No.23824385 >>23824291 That makes sense. Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 12:56:43 No.23824417 >>23816974 I've often gone out of my away to make sure I don't have any of his songs in my playlist. It can fuck up my mood for the rest of the day if I hear it. Astronaut cover where he sings himself absolutely breaks my heart.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 13:47:55 No.23825028
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>>23778506
Well On the Rocks is the obvious choice, but otherwise, really any other song or cover that uses their V3. The problem is that they are all terribly mixed, but I really like their V3 cover of Alice when you turn the volume down a bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 14:39:50 No.23825517 File: 444 KB, 1919x953, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you think these concerts will actually happen?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 14:42:44 No.23825548 File: 484 KB, 712x1007, 1576722053986.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23825517 Yes, though the name will not make as much sense then.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 14:54:35 No.23825662 >>23818437 If you mean associating herself with this shit show bundle of corporate made drama isn't that bad then yeah... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHk8tu8NulE

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 16:39:42 No.23826623
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It's recently come to my attention that there's a scene devoted to the holy craft of showing off Miku's beautiful in-game skin. Does anyone know where I can find the discord or what have you for the Project Diva Arcade modding community?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 16:40:34 No.23826637 Does anyone know any Oliver sounds that actually sound like English and not garbled trash?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 16:40:58 No.23826641 >>23825662 You act like First Place isn't a shitshow too.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 17:02:43 No.23826841 >>23826623 I want to pop Miku's cherry while she wears that.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 17:56:59 No.23827286
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I get irrationally angry whenever someone English Youtuber decides to cover this song. They always change the first line into a pun and it puts me into an irrational rage. Like why the fuck would you ruin the song in the first second of opening your fucking stupid mouth.

FUCK.

Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 18:06:43 No.23827351

The Roki version on the switch game kinda irks me. Like, the original version is great obviously, and I also love the Len version they play on concerts, so why not just let us choose between Len or Mikito-P as the second vocal?

Instead, they put in a strange mess of a 3-vocal version with Rin keeping her lines and Len and Mikito-P's vocals clashing in the background which just sounds weird. Why?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 18:07:38 No.23827357 Miku and friends are cute and sexy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 18:50:11 No.23827578 File: 241 KB, 600x1037, flat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 19:10:52 No.23827739 File: 3.08 MB, 2793x3725, 78947696_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23827357 Very cute and sexy

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 19:28:11 No.23827882 >>23827739 The cutest and sexiest, among many

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 19:29:33 No.23827890 >>23827739 No! This is gay!

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 20:18:39 No.23828299 File: 895 KB, 950x1500, 76666133_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23827890 Magical girls are very gay yes

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 22:42:30 No.23829532 >>23780712 wheres flower

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 15, 2020 22:54:51 No.23829627 >>23829532 my wife vflower is NOT boy!

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 00:23:36 No.23830325 >>23803360 >>23811949 Slut

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 00:56:20 No.23830545 File: 188 KB, 1280x1865, c9c234b89870af81f000f42721d3f665.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 01:47:36 No.23830868 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1niMajncwI Are you ready to embrace the future /jp/? Of shitty half-assed AIs who don't sound like the original character they portray.

Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 02:04:29 No.23830949

>>23827351
Eh, I'm not partial to any version using Len. Mikito's part in the vocals are a nice contrast with how peppy Rin sounds, and make the song sound more "rock" I guess. Len just doesn't sound tuned for that contrast in many versions, which makes it come off as less fun. That's also why I'm not a big fan of most covers of the song.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 02:06:13 No.23830963 >>23830868 >2018 >future It can't be worse than Luka V4.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 03:07:15 No.23831433 File: 336 KB, 3508x2480, ia's_creed-songjiang_cc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The next AC keeps looking better and better.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 03:22:53 No.23831517 >>23831433 Having a fetish for anime women wearing monocles is a difficult thing to deal with.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 03:29:51 No.23831560 >>23831517 At least you have GuP

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 03:44:24 No.23831634 >>23825662 Don't know much about vtuber stuff but, still must ask, What happened to PewDiePie' invitation for her to do meme review?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 05:27:24 No.23832357 >>23783621 He does some decent work with Len too. https://youtube.com/watch?v=7eFkQpduUzw

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 09:57:26 No.23834650 Trying Arcade. Is there a way to mod button icons? Every multi being gold is triggering me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 12:39:33 No.23836517 >>23826623 Just want to let you all know I found the nude mod workshop and I'm not going to share because none of you helped me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 13:12:50 No.23836859 I made Luka sing a song about my dog. Would anyone like to hear it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 13:27:16 No.23836965 >>23818612 >crypton >losing money

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:02:00 No.23838973 File: 330 KB, 800x1035, df3abd857a453fb1ec5299f0b63fa1de.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would you play a vocaloid fighting game?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:03:14 No.23838993 >>23838973 I hate fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:10:17 No.23839067 >>23838973 I rather play a Vocaloid eroge were the MC's a big dick gaijin.

Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:15:23 No.23839112
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>>23838973
I still don't understand why they didn't make yet a game focusing on teaching how to compose songs with a vocaloid lite version and other instruments embedded. Perhaps even something like sound shapes with the options to share levels online. Considering even the rhythm games have PV edit mode, it seems like the logical step.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:16:21 No.23839127 >>23839067 I hope it has a Len route

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:17:12 No.23839135 >>23839127 Just as long as Rin has a bad end that involve prolapse.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 17:57:32 No.23839448 >>23839112 didnt they get rid of pv mode?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 21:09:22 No.23841414 >>23836517 Fair enough

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 16, 2020 23:41:08 No.23842781 Finally a complete vocaloid song in project sekai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9h91KTQnM

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 00:01:45 No.23842969 >>23842781 All the songs are going to have standard Vocaloid and cover versions.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 00:04:53 No.23842998 >>23842969 good to know, but makes me wonder why they'd waste the budget hiring a bunch of singers when the idolfags will stick with their idolshit while vocaloidfags are sticking to vocaloidshit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 00:13:35 No.23843094 File: 46 KB, 600x338, Mikus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23842998 The characters are likely for gacha and for the characterization of the different 5 Mikus. There are also going to be lots of additional Miku outfits.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 00:26:50 No.23843236 File: 1.70 MB, 4096x2828, EJZ9QjpVAAAA5mn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23843094

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 00:44:14 No.23843396 >>23842998 they could use that budget for a colab with some other loids like flower? gumi... I was going to say IA but shes pretty much dead

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:32:07 No.23843902 >>23843236 Is that a fucking black rose tattoo on her upper thigh? It doesnt stand out because of the cute dress, but isnt that a little too erotic??

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:33:14 No.23843916 >>23843396 And by IA you mean Luka

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:33:47 No.23843925 >>23843902 Dude, it's just ink

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:40:41 No.23843987 File: 67 KB, 832x1024, chronic-ink-tattoo_Joanna-Roman_Fine-Line-Tattoo-341-832x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23843925 >dude its just ink Its the location, anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:42:27 No.23844003 >>23843987 It's just a leg

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 01:51:30 No.23844069 >>23836859 Yes. It sounds cute

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 02:10:15 No.23844243 >>23843902 Why erotic? >>23843925 Could be bodypaint. >>23843987 Ew.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 02:16:48 No.23844294 File: 1.20 MB, 4096x3438, EI1_fkYUYAAXgwN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23843902 Miku is always attractive, cute and erotic.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 02:17:53 No.23844301 File: 933 KB, 4096x2219, ELqM_eeU0AEiPiI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23844294

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 02:18:57 No.23844311 File: 1.04 MB, 4096x1754, ELGGkF2UYAAyESY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23844301

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 02:50:57 No.23844558 >>23836859 >>23844069 inb4 its just Luka V4 barking

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 03:16:08 No.23844772 File: 106 KB, 247x300, forte02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please give Eleanor Forte lots of attention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSHZIAqFV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUC59_6O030

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 04:33:34 No.23845501 >>23844772 Is being good at english pronunciation her only plus point?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 13:35:46 No.23850427 File: 621 KB, 630x900, 1589736946070.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23843916 >>23830963 Calm down.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 14:20:47 No.23850830 File: 249 KB, 1200x630, og.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who mudafuka going even with this killer virus?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 14:24:40 No.23850866 Is anyone watching the diabetic Miku look alike anime?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 14:29:02 No.23850920 >>23850830 I thought it was delayed to autumn, should be fine by then

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 15:29:30 No.23851528 >>23850830 Maybe I'm a doomer but I just can't see America being ready for big indoor events again by September.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 16:39:48 No.23852070 >>23850866 Never heard of it. What's it called?

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 16:40:51 No.23852078 >>23852070 Shachou, Battle no Jikan desu!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 16:55:40 No.23852179 File: 2.66 MB, 1500x2000, e0b3b13bc0b264923cdbfd920c46716c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8-PeMrMjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4MPUlww-U

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 16:57:35 No.23852197 Why does this fucking retarded looking game get Kikuo while Project Diva doesn't? Touch screen rhythm games are cancer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6zhd2TJHk

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 17:27:01 No.23852563 >>23851528 oh its not going to be safe for like at least a year but america is gonna open up way sooner than later

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 18:17:17 No.23853059 File: 451 KB, 1034x1200, 79095108.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23845501 What more do you want? I think she's cute too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noffAxbs6uA

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 21:05:43 No.23854386 >>23838973 hell yes

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 21:10:29 No.23854432 File: 1.16 MB, 1181x1748, 43941786_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23852197 chunithm is actually super fun once you try it! if you're ever at an arcade that has it you should give it a shot!

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 21:13:56 No.23854465 >>23853059 Okay but why did you attach a fanart with texture that resembles literal creamy shit

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 21:42:33 No.23854706 >>23844772 Why can't synthV release another english voicebank? I love Eleanor's english, but I don't like her timbre- sounds too jubyphonic-y, English fan singer-y for me.

Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 21:59:11 No.23854883
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>>23854706

I really love Ellie though.

There is this thing called emvoice with a character named Lucy that sings decent english too but not much with her yet either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0GY2AdsI4

Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 22:06:50 No.23854964
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>>23854706

Honestly though saying she sounds like Juby isn't too far from popular speculation. Eleanor's voice provider is uncredited. A lot of people think it could be Juby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eu_fUbyR-Q

I haven't seen any proof though, but I can kinda hear what everyone else is hearing so maybe.

Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 22:08:59 No.23854984
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I'll put it out there anyway since most people I talk too don't realize but SynthV is a free trial with no end date and Eleanor, Renri and Genbu are all free to use as well.

You can basically make songs with it and use it indefinitely. So if you just wanna play with it you totally can. I like a lot of the SynthV stuff over how Vocaloid does it.

https://synthesizerv.com/download/

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 17, 2020 23:02:28 No.23855435 File: 285 KB, 850x850, sample_12c42575e3223404b3ba8682919f701e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23854432 No!

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 03:26:33 No.23857383 >>23854984 My biggest problems always were inability to write lyrics in any language and mixing/mastering, not unavailability of the technical means to make Vocaloid music.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 08:58:51 No.23859939 File: 125 KB, 920x741, EX0u-E3UMAEozjc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fifth grade girls are exceptionally hot during summer.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 12:48:38 No.23862409 File: 421 KB, 630x900, EVSxNiyU8AEtJiv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23859939 Seek help

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 13:10:47 No.23862794 File: 536 KB, 1000x1000, 1577324014193.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23862409 Gross. Kiritan shouldn't age past 11.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 13:41:37 No.23863313 Lot of new entries on mikudb

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 15:00:33 No.23864071 >>23862409 It's just a drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 15:02:30 No.23864098 >>23862794 you're worse than a tripfag avatarfag with your muh 11

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 18:10:04 No.23865601 File: 115 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I just got Megamix, is there a comfortable controller for it? The pro controller's d-pad is ass and the joycons are too small. Any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 19:10:08 No.23866046 >>23865601 you can buy a 8bitdo dongle to use the ds4 if you want, personally i got used to the joycons and i like them more now since the dpad is actual separate buttons

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 22:55:59 No.23868010 >>23750956 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 18, 2020 23:24:46 No.23868350 >>23866046 the joycons are okay when playing in portable mode but I can't get a good grip on them when playing docked, not even with the joycon grip

Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 00:02:31 No.23868776
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>>23865601
I only played the demo, but I found that the wired Horipad works best for me. The dpad has a cover that you can take off to use them like normal buttons. That way you can still get the effect of the joycons and get the comfort of an actual controller.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 00:03:05 No.23868784 >>23868776 clean your controller

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 00:14:29 No.23868902 >>23868776 I have this controller and the dpad button aren't that great, it never feels like you're pressing all the way down

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 01:00:04 No.23869362 >>23868902 I've only ever noticed that when the cover is on, which is why I almost always have it removed. It isn't the best controller ever, no, but I think it's an improvement over the pro controller's abysmal dpad.

Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 06:22:00 No.23871682
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I love Luka! I love her long pink hair and how it moves in project diva. I love her soft voice and how good it sounds with heavier songs, e.g. Leia or Palette. I love her body and not for perverted reasons! I just genuinely like how it moves, I guess? She's so elegant and pretty. I wish more producers used her, and I wished her voicebank was easier to use. MegaMix pulled me into her once again.

Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 06:25:02 No.23871692

I've started playing MegaMix with the Hori controller and god damn, that thing is loud.
My headphones have an open design and the noise from the buttons can start to drown out the music, does anyone have a suggestion on what headphones to use instead?

I'd rather not just turn the music louder because I don't want to murder my ears.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 06:37:10 No.23871755 >>23789634 Can confirm. Part of the charm of Miku for me is the slightly faulty robot voice. That's why I'm also not that big of a fan of producers that try to push her tuning as close to sounding like a real voice as they can.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 06:41:10 No.23871778 >>23871682 ded

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 07:14:43 No.23871987 >>23871682 Anon, you sound gay

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 07:22:56 No.23872086 File: 319 KB, 828x455, F1E77051-6E0D-4DE8-A0E7-B257F66222C5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23871987 Only for Luka

Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 07:35:03 No.23872219
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What's the story behind this producer? His first video posted on youtube already has almost a million views in less than a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6KGOoxXQQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yvdRXW82I

Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 08:04:34 No.23872471

I gotta say, Megamix's song list really grew on me. I think it did manage to do a good job of slimming out the FT list, cutting out the chaff and leaving most of the good stuff plus some good new songs.

There are many songs I do still miss from the other games though, I loved playing Stardust Utopia and Paradichlorobenzene. Maybe we'll get more DLC in the future, I'd like to see some of the songs from Diva X there too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 08:28:02 No.23872681 >>23872086 Tits or gtfo

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 08:41:03 No.23872792 >>23871682 i also like miku's girlfriend shes pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 08:44:32 No.23872826 >>23872219 he has almost 400k twitter followers so probably a celebrity, looks like maybe he's an actor ?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 09:20:45 No.23873216 File: 285 KB, 720x404, 1534541913778.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23872792

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 09:34:26 No.23873356 >>23873216 that sounds like an invitation to do the real thing to me

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 09:50:01 No.23873553 >>23871682 >>23872086 >Luka Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 10:03:19 No.23873692 日本語わかりません！お尻ください！

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 10:21:30 No.23873899 File: 263 KB, 1280x720, 6293412C-7FC3-4960-8E31-4FA35D4A4523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23872792 I'm Miku? This is new. >>23873553 Would you like to be introduced to my religion?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:08:15 No.23874378 >>23873899 Yukari is better, and shes a slut

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:22:11 No.23874523 >>23874378 They compliment one another https://youtu.be/klp9i4OgJNE

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:30:25 No.23874606 >>23873216 Where is Miku's tie?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:48:13 No.23874812 >>23871682 >cheaper IA

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:53:53 No.23874863 File: 431 KB, 1799x1556, EA4YsYVUIAATH-U.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23871682 Damn right.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:54:32 No.23874866 >>23874812 Luka's voice is more calming to me than IA's. I don't know why I don't like IA's voice considering I love her VA.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 11:59:57 No.23874912 God Teo really brings the hype. I miss MikuExpo.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:02:40 No.23874936 >>23874912 Next year for sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:03:43 No.23874944 >>23874812 >IA - USD 83.41 >Megurine Luka V4X - USD 169.95 Stop dragging IA into your wars, Yukarifag.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:13:24 No.23875023 >>23874812 >IA - USD 83.41 >Megurine Luka V4X - USD 169.95 >Yuzuki Yukari - USD 72.07 Stop dragging IA into your wars, Yukari.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:17:43 No.23875067 >>23865601 Travel back in time and place a pre-order for the hori arcade controller.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:22:17 No.23875110 File: 258 KB, 1280x720, IMG_20200519_121939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23871682 I just got done changing the modules for all the songs to luka

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 12:29:46 No.23875183 >>23875110 i dedicate one of my sets to random luka + random hairstyle

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 13:18:44 No.23875749 >>23875023 wow yukari's serviecs are pretty cheap, what a great business woman!

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 14:15:36 No.23876258 File: 2.77 MB, 960x540, luka physics.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23871682

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 14:18:59 No.23876288 >>23873553 Go to bed, Yukari. You're drunk. >>23875023 Kek. Yukari is practically giving herself away. Desperate.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 14:37:19 No.23876464 >>23843396 I heard that in interviews CFM wanted to have other loids in the game but ended up ditching the idea(and that the idols were their replacements) Wat has also tweeted about trying to get Gumi in Project Diva too

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 15:23:37 No.23876924 >>23876464 Gumi was already in Mirai DX and that seemed to work well, not sure why they didn't try to include her more, you'd have thought the licensing issues would have been sorted out since there was already a first time collab

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 15:24:39 No.23876929 >>23876464 I want to visit the universe where Matryoshka is in MegaMix.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 17:10:17 No.23877871 File: 261 KB, 354x254, cursed una.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh god kill it

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 17:21:25 No.23877958 File: 605 KB, 1000x1000, 3dde6ff5550ce36b292c581cf8b22165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23871682 Luka no range luka only duets poo in the loo

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 17:52:56 No.23878191 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVjyVppveGY deep or edgy?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 19:52:41 No.23879219 >>23878191 Solid edgy

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 20:02:40 No.23879310 >>23844069 >>23844558 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfb1RoaXLCc&lc=UgyaynzbCFibs3WkQMx4AaABAg I'm still getting the hang of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 20:22:30 No.23879544 >>23879310 Surprisingly catchy and cute! Don't give up anon, keep trying!

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 20:33:53 No.23879668 What is this feud between Luka and Yukari?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 20:57:24 No.23879860 >>23879668 One of them is a slut, dont know who the other one is.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 21:02:40 No.23879903 >>23879668 One has cowtits, the other is deliciously flat.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 21:03:10 No.23879909 >>23879310 Sounds meh but A for effort anon

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 22:53:33 No.23880761 File: 231 KB, 1000x1000, tumblr_p146kdK5Py1w2i8i4o1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this the worst module in the game? can't believe it was the designed by the same person who designed bayonetta

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 23:09:09 No.23880889 >>23880761 I like it. The feet is very sexy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 19, 2020 23:45:31 No.23881243 File: 11 KB, 261x195, a6840f271fb1db64fc478cf6fc108c97.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23880889 >tHe feEt is vErY sExY

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 00:06:26 No.23881425 >>23880761 It's cute. I have figure of this module/design, it's really nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 01:17:44 No.23881867 >>23872219 He's a really famous comedian. He's on TV pretty much everyday. His comedy duo won the big TV comedy grand prix like a year or 2 ago, and they have their own show, very surprised to see he's making Vocaloid music now.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 01:47:20 No.23882061 Haha Mikudong

Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 03:25:01 No.23882750

https://ec.crypton.co.jp/download/pdf/eula_virtualsinger.pdf
The EULA for Miku NT came out on the 11th or so.
>If the User, whether an individual or a legal entity, wishes to publish any User Work in a way of performing, screening, publicly transmitting, distributing, transferring, loaning, etc. for commercial purposes, please contact the Company beforehand. Depending on the manner of the usage, the User may be required to enter into a separate additional license agreement with the Company, including an additional license fee.
You're now required to list Miku in the credits for any monetized work using her as well, probably includes streaming services.
Let's hope this isn't Fukase all over again.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 03:55:20 No.23882924 >>23881867 The songs are kinda meh though. At least he's trying.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 04:19:57 No.23883097 >>23882750 That's the same as before.

Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 05:06:57 No.23883413
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>>23879668
One of them is a beautiful queen meant to be worshipped and the other a slutty good-for-nothing neet.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 06:11:32 No.23883847 >>23880761 Yes. It's so boring and not even cute. The bow at the back is annoying too. I'm tired of Miku modules anyway. Even Luka has better modules than Rin imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 06:16:59 No.23883902 >>23880761 I like it. Too bad this was rendered with that awful FT shader.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 07:57:17 No.23884785 Anyone have that meme of miku as an example explaining some sort of programming (?) concept of why each waifu iteration of miku is separate?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 07:58:53 No.23884802 File: 1.66 MB, 1100x3100, OOP miku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23884785 This one?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 07:59:45 No.23884809 >>23884802 Wow thanks it's exactly that.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:00:46 No.23884817 >>23884785 >>23884802 It doesn't make much sense from programming perspective, but it's true regardless.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:29:42 No.23885081 File: 726 KB, 948x1000, 1587278163892.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bros...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:40:11 No.23885183 File: 3.39 MB, 4093x2894, 390ef49fc4832f5e8b1de670c75d9f5f_small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23885081 This, except Miku on the left and me on the right.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:40:32 No.23885185 >>23885081 What a manlet

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:41:49 No.23885204 >>23885185 luka is 162cm tall so the guy is about 170 which is fine

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:47:13 No.23885251 >>23885204 5'7 is fine

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:48:53 No.23885261 >>23885183 Every god damn day I am reminded of how much I love her. Every god damn day is another day she's not in my arms. Cmon scientists hurry up and do your shit

Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 08:52:24 No.23885293

>>23885261
It really makes one think. Why are we humans trying go search for answers out beyond our safe homelands? We have reached the point in technology where instead of develoling outwards, we can develop inwards. Its no question that aliends do exist, and if we ever develop to a point of extraterrestrial conversationN they will see us as a threat and eliminate us. Rather than that, we can use our electrically dependent brain to connect ourselves to the virtual network and make our own rules inside of our own minds. Its a much better alternative than going out into the vast emtiness of space where no god is there to judge injustice.

Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 09:24:55 No.23885656
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>>23885293
Because Earth might be doomed one day, because of our actions or not. If humanity spread across the galaxy, we will be more resilient. Also astroengineering is fun.

>>23885261
>Cmon scientists hurry up and do your shit
These things, they take time...

I love Miku from the bottom of my heart, being able to make her real is my greatest dream. I personally try to help push the boundaries further, but there is only so much one person can do. I do believe if we had some larger companies working it could be be resolved to some degree even now. Considering something like Viva Project could be made by just one guy, if only there was professional team behind it we could totally have nice VR gf experience.
Now, things like robotics and AGI are still not there. Maybe some of these stuff could be already solved at satisfactory level, but it's even less probably as of now. But who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if something like AGI appeared next week, it's really hard to predict.

For now, just buy a daki. There is nothing better than being able to fall asleep holding tightly that girl you love so much and seeing her smile as the first thing in the day. Until one day...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 09:46:38 No.23885824 Would anyone be interested in doing a /jp/ draws of a loid song? I was thinking maybe miku miku shite ageru because of the PV with different drawing in it but anything could work really as long as the PV is interesting enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:14:58 No.23886117 >>23885656 No one cares faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:23:14 No.23886207 >>23885656 I care and agree. Colonizing other planets is necessary, simply just to preserve Miku.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:23:45 No.23886214 File: 103 KB, 614x714, 1397568835048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23886117 You cared enough to reply.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:27:24 No.23886256 File: 237 KB, 1280x1746, 3D2847F2-6CD5-461E-96B2-D04DCA17A94D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23885081 Why must you do this to me

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:28:40 No.23886272 File: 423 KB, 828x711, 154F4678-9112-4697-9327-57C2106AA4C2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23886214 Go be a waifufag on R9k

Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:36:12 No.23886378
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>>23886272
/r9k/ is trash and their waifu threads are a joke.
No thanks, I actually take Miku seriously.

You will not prevent me from posting Miku in her own threads.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 10:57:42 No.23886626 >>23886117 >>23886272

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 11:01:46 No.23886673 >>23885656 >>23886207 No, you guys dont understand. The galactic race is not something we should be a part of so late in the game. Dont make ourselves known.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 20, 2020 11:23:11 No.23886900 File: 214 KB, 1348x1086, 1589000472312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23886673 Basically

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